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Old 10-01-2013, 09:08 AM
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Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

I am thinking of painting my main subject in oil over an acrylic background scene. Is there any paint failure problems, etc. that I need to be aware of though?
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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

Painting oil over acrylic is very common and has very little risk - at least according to the latest papers published on the Golden website (I believe). Just don't do it the other way around (acrylic over oil ).

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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

Is NO problem !!!

Some say, it's better when the acrylic-layer is thin & than paint with oil over it ...

BUT don't hear at some 'industries' like Golden !?! ;-) - that IS 'bu..sh.t' ... :-(

Btw. what's happen in 100 or 300 years, is for the most painters here 'important' - but no one (here) is a new Rembrandt/VanGogh/Freud ;-)


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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

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Is NO problem !!!

Some say, it's better when the acrylic-layer is thin & than paint with oil over it ...

BUT don't hear at some 'industries' like Golden !?! ;-) - that IS 'bu..sh.t' ... :-(

Btw. what's happen in 100 or 300 years, is for the most painters here 'important' - but no one (here) is a new Rembrandt/VanGogh/Freud ;-)


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Not sure you understood me or that I understand you - The paper published by Golden says that oil over acrylic is OK. It sounded like you disagreed with them, but I think we all agree that oil over acrylic is fine.

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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

A lot of people paint WMO and/or traditional oils over acrylic. I don't think anybody has had any problems with that. Just make sure the acrylic is dry first. Happy painting.
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Interesting idea.
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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

I use oils over acrylics regularly.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:39 AM
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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

I recommend giving a coat or 2 of winsor newton liquin over the acrylic before applying oils it flows better less absorvent
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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

A (thin) coat is a wonderful thing, that many do ... Also me ;-)

BUT, we are here at the WMO-Forum, so Liquin isn't a good idea ... !!!?!!!
-> better use for it (Artisan)WMO-Mediums & Co. ... ;-)
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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

I haven't heard anything about WOM over traditional. I would imagine that would be like painting lean over fat.
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I haven't heard anything about WOM over traditional. I would imagine that would be like painting lean over fat.

I would think that WMO and traditional paints are made with similar amounts of oil, so I don't think this would be a good way of looking at it. I haven't read anything to indicate that WMOs are leaner than traditional oils, so I would approach WMOs exactly the same way I would approach traditionals when it comes to fat over lean. So, if painting WMO over traditional, just make sure the WMO layers have a bit more oil in the medium that the traditional layers, and vice versa.

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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

Don/DAK723 has 100% right - IMHO ;-)
-> i do that since months (regular/normal oil is Sennelier OilSticks (like W&N OilBars - both are 100% oilcolors but in Stickform -> with drying-oil in it!) and WMO are W&N Artisan, Talens Cobra and Lukas Berlin)

[more important is the color - example BurntSiena dry (very) fast, etc. ... --- that rule is also important ;-) ]
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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

I believe that most people paint oil over acrylic, without using liquin in between.

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Re: Subject in oil over acrylic background scene?

What i forget to say - for future paintings/sessions:

• for underpainting, predrawing or illustration:
-> take GOUACHE !!!

THAT is lean and doesn't smear when you paint over it
-> but when you use WMO against 'normal' oils, take for thinning only the THINNER and/or the oil/painting-mediums & NOT WATER !!!
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