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05-14-2012, 12:21 PM
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WMO Concern / Question
Hi - I'm new to this forum & would like to start using the WMO's I purchased a couple years back. I had the paint, plenty of brushes, canvas and enthusiasm but my excitement was quickly halted when I read the 'combustible' warnings on Holbein and other WMO's.
I have never used oil paint or the solvents & chose WMO's to avoid the fire hazard and fumes. If I use paper towels to wipe off excess paint & for clean up is there a real danger of spontaneous combustion? I'm guessing it is more geared toward advising not to store towels & rags saturated with oils & mediums for long periods. Does anybody have any knowledge or advice?
I'm looking forward to using my WMO's without being hindered by exaggerated cautions. Can anybody help put me at ease?
-John
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05-15-2012, 08:16 AM
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
Oil soaked rags are the problem. If they're bunched up inside a trash can they can generate enough heat to ignite the rags or paper. A small amount of oil on rags/paper towels won't be a problem.
If you have oily rags to dispose of, the solution is to throw them away individually so they're not bunched up and the heat can safely dissipate, or else place them all in an air-tight container. A metal paint can from a hardware store works well. Fill it about 1/2 full with water to keep the rags wet. When it gets full, dispose of the can at a local hazard waste location. Some towns have regular pick-up days for such items.
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05-16-2012, 12:36 PM
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
Thank you David! You've really helped put me at ease.
Guess it's time to organize & set up for some practice.
Where do folks post their WMO WIPs or completed work? Is there any kind of 'Challenge' or 'What's on your easel?' thread for WMO? I'm having difficulty finding them if there are.
Thanks again.
- John
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05-16-2012, 01:51 PM
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
We usually show our stuff in the oil paint section or landscape or portraits, but it's nice if you x-post to WMOs. Sometimes we never know who is using traditional oils and who is using WMOs. Best of luck.
Dayle
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05-16-2012, 05:46 PM
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
Yes, i have posted many paintings done with wmo paints in the regular oils forum, plein air, landscapes, still life, portraits, marines, animals wildlife, and here in wmo too.
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05-16-2012, 09:33 PM
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
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Is there any kind of 'Challenge' or 'What's on your easel?' thread
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There used to be a monthly challenge here and i hosted it couple of times, but it sort of petered out and interest waned. You just need someone willing to start it. Do a title search in advanced search for challenge and they will come up, if you want to take a look, here is the last one:
8x10 wip, (just started the dark shadows)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...ight=challenge
It was exactly one year ago and low and behold, look what I am working on right now, one of the references from that challenge:

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05-16-2012, 11:19 PM
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the flatlands
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
Sid, I absolutely love your colors here...what is your palette?  this is stunning. Oh, OK, just remembered, I think I have it.. 
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05-17-2012, 09:04 AM
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
thanks, I liked the bright warms hues against the earthen crocs and the cool reflected lights, the palette I am using for this is a styrofoam plate.
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05-17-2012, 09:20 AM
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the flatlands
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
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Originally Posted by sidbledsoe
thanks, I liked the bright warms hues against the earthen crocs and the cool reflected lights, the palette I am using for this is a styrofoam plate.
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(the cool reflected light is the icing on this one)
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05-17-2012, 01:24 PM
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
WOW!! Thanks everybody for the information & links!
gfgfgfgf - You are really developing some interesting styles & I kinda like them. The tablecloth really is interesting and a lot of the color is so vibrant it looks like I could wipe it right off the monitor.
Sid - Your work is really outstanding & very inspiring. My favorite is the shadowed path leading off into the hills & 'Out In The Country'. Though I enjoy & admire some of the other 'free' styles I've seen - your work is closer to what I hope to be able to achieve. Do you label your 'WMOs' when you post to the traditional oil forum?
Now I'm really excited (and a bit scared) about getting started!
Thanks again to everyone for the info.
-John
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05-18-2012, 09:21 AM
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Suburbia, Maryland
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
I'm new too! Thanks for asking this question. And I have another one about "disposal." I am assuming I probably shoudn't try to wash my rags (thought maybe since they are wm oils, but..) I guess it's just better to use paper towels and throw them out one at a time?
Also, what do you do with your water after washing brushes? Is it safe to throw down the drain, or do I need a hazard container to take to the dump for that, too?
I finally decided to do oil painting because I can go without turp and use wm paint, but I had no idea I needed to still be careful! Thanks for the help!
BTW< I really love the painting, Sid. So much for me to learn just by observing!
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05-18-2012, 12:50 PM
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
I used to dump my acrylic water and clean the materials in the sink till I clogged the drain. It's likely a poor idea but I pour all my the water in the dirt or dead patches of dried out grass. The grass is growing really nice in those areas but it may not be environmentally safe. I make sure the brushes clear of paint and rinsed really good before cleaning them in the sink. Seems to be working OK. I would like to know if it's safe to throw the pages from the paper palettes with leftover paint in the trash.
So many questions keep popping up.
-John
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05-18-2012, 01:09 PM
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DECiNERGY http://www.decinergy.at | Burgenland, AUSTRIA
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Re: WMO Concern / Question
Brush-Washing - Video from Stefan Nuetzel (SuperB Painter from Austria/Vienna
;-))
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGpWPLYHMsc
[ it's in german but you could see what he make & happens ;-) ]
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