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Old 05-05-2012, 07:37 AM
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...inspired by internet photo liked the blond and the blue
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:57 PM
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147 views and no comments ? Gawd I didn't think it could be that bad
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Sorry Trevor, I was one of the 147. I don't think this is one of your best. I was trying to find positives to balance any criticism I might have.

For me the two main problems are the initial drawing and the colours. Looking at the line down from the neck her breasts look too high and too far to the left (in particular with relationship to her right shoulder). The shapes of the shirt don't help show the shoulder/elbow/wrist relationship. Maybe a preliminary sketch would have helped that (mostly with photos I find I have to dissect the structure to understand how it fits together rather than just copying the shapes).

With the colours I find the blue and green really harsh. The blue shirt doesn't need to be toned down but I do find the blue on her chin and far thigh distracting. Having said that you have used the blue (or neutral colour) well on her near leg with the slight shadow of the shirt and under her thigh. The highlight on the near thigh is also good (plus the variation with the yellow).
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Hi Trevor,
I missed it somehow!
We seem to be having a season of lots of people viewing and not commenting.
Perhaps we have a lot more lurkers at the moment then usual.

For me, this painting doesn't have the interest that your last one did,
It feels a little bit bland.
I can't see exactly what piece of clothing the blue thing is meant to be.
Unbuttoned blouse perhaps?

Jonathan.
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Trevor. I. Think. I Just. Agree with everyone. Here
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Sorry Trevor, I was one of the 147. I don't think this is one of your best. I was trying to find positives to balance any criticism I might have.

For me the two main problems are the initial drawing and the colours. Looking at the line down from the neck her breasts look too high and too far to the left (in particular with relationship to her right shoulder). The shapes of the shirt don't help show the shoulder/elbow/wrist relationship. Maybe a preliminary sketch would have helped that (mostly with photos I find I have to dissect the structure to understand how it fits together rather than just copying the shapes).

With the colours I find the blue and green really harsh. The blue shirt doesn't need to be toned down but I do find the blue on her chin and far thigh distracting. Having said that you have used the blue (or neutral colour) well on her near leg with the slight shadow of the shirt and under her thigh. The highlight on the near thigh is also good (plus the variation with the yellow).

Thanks Nathan for your considered critique I prefer honesty rather than kudos , it does me no good
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Hi Trevor,
I missed it somehow!
We seem to be having a season of lots of people viewing and not commenting.
Perhaps we have a lot more lurkers at the moment then usual.

For me, this painting doesn't have the interest that your last one did,
It feels a little bit bland.
I can't see exactly what piece of clothing the blue thing is meant to be.
Unbuttoned blouse perhaps?

Jonathan.



Thanks Jonathan looks like I need to do more clothing, not one of my strong subjects it appears
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Hi Trevor,
I missed it somehow!
We seem to be having a season of lots of people viewing and not commenting.
Perhaps we have a lot more lurkers at the moment then usual.

For me, this painting doesn't have the interest that your last one did,
It feels a little bit bland.
I can't see exactly what piece of clothing the blue thing is meant to be.
Unbuttoned blouse perhaps?

Jonathan.



Thanks Jonathan looks like I need to do more clothing, not one of my strong subjects it appears
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I like your skin tones and contrasting colors but I think you needed to work on the anatomy of the figure a little more, also laying in some darker hues of color will add some depth to the painting.
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I like your skin tones and contrasting colors but I think you needed to work on the anatomy of the figure a little more, also laying in some darker hues of color will add some depth to the painting.
Thanks Celia I am sure you are right
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Darks Trevor, DARKS, everything is midtone, you should think values
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Darks Trevor, DARKS, everything is midtone, you should think values
Thanks Ron I am on to that now, I have spent so much time trying to get things lighter I have forgot values
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Hi Trevor, I think this is a good attempt. We all have days when things don't seem to go as well as others, so this must've been one such. Folks have good advice. Although the darks might help, my feeling is that, the underdrawing has to be right first before concentrating on the values. But, am glad you shared this. Like someone once told me, as long as the paint/pencil hits the paper, it's all good.
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Hi Trevor, I think this is a good attempt. We all have days when things don't seem to go as well as others, so this must've been one such. Folks have good advice. Although the darks might help, my feeling is that, the underdrawing has to be right first before concentrating on the values. But, am glad you shared this. Like someone once told me, as long as the paint/pencil hits the paper, it's all good.


Thanks Kiran the problem with the drawing is that it is too accurate !! that is to the photo I think the photo was taken looking down and there is some camera distortion as well!

As you say keeping at it anyway
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