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Old 04-22-2012, 04:52 PM
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Does anyone here do white ink on black?

I'm toying with the idea of white ink on black paper. Does anyone here do that, and what kind of "tools" and paper are you using?

As always, thank you so much!
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:19 PM
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

I fear you will find white ink not very satisfactory, but then maybe white inks have changed since I last used them (years ago) then they didn't cover very well so the dark tended to come through. As I recall I only did one or two pieces and gave it up.

I have used white chalk on black paper successfully, and gauche or acrylic paints work because they are opaque, but not sure how well they would work when thinned enough for a dip pen.

If you want to work light on dark you might think about working with scratchboard, the sharp tips are similar to using a pen. It can be a dusty medium so if you have any breathing problems I wouldn't recommend it, I also found it a bit tedious to do as you have to go slowly, but I have seen some beautiful work done.
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

Thanks, Kathy, for your opinion and advice. I'm always trying to imagine something that I don't see any of....now I know why.

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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

F W white acrylic ink is opaque and quite usable for dip pens...
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

I have used white paint pens, fine tip, that you can find in any department store that has art supplies. It isn't gallery quality, I suppose, but you will have fun experimenting with it. It will ruin a piece just as easily with the wrong white lines as a regular drawing pen will with black lines, though...so be a patient person. The fine line will spread faster than syrup on pancakes on the wrong kind of paper though. Um...maybe scratchboard, which was already mentioned, will give you the ability to control the lines.

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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

or black foamboard............ which am imagining to be no more bleeding than the white - which is what i generally use when not doing plyboard size renderings...
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Thanks All!!
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

This isn't ink but...

Calligriphers use opaque watercolor with dip pens -- they seem to get good opacity and flow. If it's the final result that matters, why not?
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

I've tried Dr. Ph Martin's bleedproof white but over the years, it dried since it's really a gouache that has that tendency. Deleter Manga white correction ink waterproof is too thick and it's a correction fluid so to say and dries rubbery on the dip pen.

Dr. Ph Martin's Pen white is what I'm using now for dip pen.

I've also tried thinned Holbein gouache titanium white but it's not as white as I wanted it.
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You could try scatchnoard.
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

FW white acrylic ink is great to work with.
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

So many ideas worthy of trying! Thank you all!
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

I've been playing with Pentel Arts Sunburst White Gel Pen with some of my zebra work. (I have bought most of the white gel ink pens in the Philadelphia area Michael's so I hope you're not looking around here!)

For paper I use Canson's Mes-Tientes papers which I can buy by the sheet at Utrecht. I've also used it on Arches WaterColor Board. But I'm not strictly doing white on black.
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Re: Does anyone here do white ink on black?

Thanks, Roadlesstaken! I'll be sure to stay out of Michael's in Philly! I'm in Ohio so, I'll check here! I also like the Mes-Tientes paper and have used it.
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