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Old 04-23-2012, 02:23 PM
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Alternative to Hansa Yellow

Golden, in it's Modern Theory Color Mixing Palette*, specifies Hansa Yellow Medium and Hansa Yellow Light for the yellows in this split primary palette. Surfing Blick's site, I only found Hansa Yellows available in the Gamblin Brand (PR74). (daVinci has a HY Light, PR3.)

If I want to purchase another brand of paint, what PR or product name would I look for?

Thanks.

PS: Just saw and red post about HY & HYL lightfastness. Saw where LeFr&B has/had PR74 & PR3 in a couple of different names. I'll have to go to each manufacturer in whose paints I'm interested and try to obtain a pigment chart or information.

*Hansa Yellow Medium, Hansa Yellow Light, Naphthol Red Light, Quinacridone Magenta, Anthraquinone Blue, Phthalo Blue GS, Phathalo Green BS, and Titanium White.
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:29 PM
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Re: Alternative to Hansa Yellow

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Golden, in it's Modern Theory Color Mixing Palette*, specifies Hansa Yellow Medium and Hansa Yellow Light for the yellows in this split primary palette. Surfing Blick's site, I only found Hansa Yellows available in the Gamblin Brand (PR74). (daVinci has a HY Light, PR3.)

If I want to purchase another brand of paint, what PR or product name would I look for?

Thanks.

You could substitute the hansa colors with cadmiums (cadmium yellow primrose, and cadmium yellow medium). Check this: http://www.goldenpaints.com/products.../heavybody.php
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You could substitute the hansa colors with cadmiums (cadmium yellow primrose, and cadmium yellow medium). Check this: http://www.goldenpaints.com/products.../heavybody.php

Thanks for the info. I'm intererested in oils rather than acrylics and I'm trying to 'match' the colors and pigments in The Golden Modern Theory Color Mixing theory. In the theory, the Hansa Yellows are transparent, as are the other paints in the theory. I've understood Cadmium Yellow as opaque. I'm looking for a similar transparent yellow close to Hansa Yellows in a brand other than Gamblin.
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Re: Alternative to Hansa Yellow

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Thanks for the info. I'm intererested in oils rather than acrylics and I'm trying to 'match' the colors and pigments in The Golden Modern Theory Color Mixing theory. In the theory, the Hansa Yellows are transparent, as are the other paints in the theory. I've understood Cadmium Yellow as opaque. I'm looking for a similar transparent yellow close to Hansa Yellows in a brand other than Gamblin.


It is semi-opaque, not transparent. At least the hansa yellows that i have. You may want to consider Rembrandt Permanent Lemon Yellow http://www.dickblick.com/items/00417...#colorpigments, and Permanent Yellow Medium http://www.dickblick.com/items/00417...#colorpigments.

Winsor and Newton has a hansa yellow, but they call it Winsor Lemon http://www.dickblick.com/items/00461...#colorpigments. Also, Winsor Yellow http://www.dickblick.com/items/00461...#colorpigments.

You have a lot of options, but you will need to look for the pigment numbers, rather than the name Hansa yellow. The Blick site is good, because they offer the pigment information, for each color.

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Re: Alternative to Hansa Yellow

Golden makes oils now through Williamsburg Oils ( www.williamsburgoils.com ). Their Permanent Yellow Light uses PY3 - Arylide Yellow 10G. I think this is the same pigment used for Golden's Acrylic Hansa Yellow Light. I've never bought oils, nor any paints at all in a few years, so I've no idea how dear the Williamsburg pricing is.

Hope this helps!
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Re: Alternative to Hansa Yellow

I know that in acrylics, PY3 and PY74 are among the most common yellow pigments. So I would guess that they are common in oils too - but might be titled by names other than 'Hansa' so you have to scan through the pigment numbers. Since transparency is important to you (it is to me too) you have to compare...comparing real paint samples is much better in this regard than just accepting what's on the label (Golden acrylics is the only paint I know of that is very stringent about distinguishing and labeling transparency...8 levels).
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Re: Alternative to Hansa Yellow

PY3 is an oldest, cheapest and standard synthetic lemon yellow pigment. I found here 180 ml PY3 oil paint tube by Chinese Phoenix Arts Group priced less than 3$. It was highly pigmented! I guess, PY3 pigment is cheaper than oil, needed to prepare this paint as China become a big PY3 manufacturer

Anyway, PY3 paint must be widely available and not expensive, unless "hand-made" thing.
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