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Re: Winsor & Newton Artists' Oil Colors palette based on Bill Martin

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No fancy-schmansy microscope needed, normal eyesight should suffice

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Oh, so you can split hairs like that with normal eyesight. I have been trying to not split hairs at all.
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It is not a hair-splitting exercise to distinguish between a convenience mixture of two or more pigments and a paint where there's just one pigment listed on the tube

Mod hat on: we won't burden the thread any longer with this, the subject is closed.

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Re: Winsor & Newton Artists' Oil Colors palette based on Bill Martin

Forgot to add Sid, that I am glad you mentioned Utrecht paint. They are a very well made paint, and very economical as well. I don't think I have ever been disappointed by any of their paints. JT

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Termini., please clear some space in your PMs, thanks.

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Re: Winsor & Newton Artists' Oil Colors palette based on Bill Martin

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[url]And should I go for Ultramarine or French Ultramarine?

I guess it would be easier if people could refer to pigments instead.

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In this set of colors, it is french ultramarine that is listed, WN only makes a french and an ultramarine green shade. I think either one is ok but the french is slightly more violet. With pththalo blue there, I would choose french.
Even if you only refer to pigments they often vary as much as names do.
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RE:WN Artists Cadmium Yellow Pale Oil: very dark!

http://www.guidetooilpainting.com/mi...intColors.html

Hi I've decided to upgrade my oil paints, and as Windsor and Newton are available here, I started with Cadmium Yellow Pale. I don't like to open tubes in stores as they can ooze oil. When I got home and opened it I discovered that it was a dark slightly orangish yellow unlike the sample card.
No way can I mix light greens, light cool yellows, etc. with this.

It is also made with safflower oil which I hadn't noticed and then I thought..... that it would probably be OK if this dark yellow, yellowed, so why not just use linseed? Think I'll try another brand for a Cadmium lemon.
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I have to agree, the colour of the W&N Cadmium Yellow Pale is not what I'd have expected, far more mid-yellow *. I don't think it should be quite as dark or orangey as you describe, was that maybe just in the neck of the tube?

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No way can I mix light greens, light cool yellows, etc. with this.
Have you had the chance to try it out yet? It should be a good colour for mixing, I know of a number of artists that use this particular paint (assuming it is the same colour it used to be).

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It is also made with safflower oil which I hadn't noticed and then I thought..... that it would probably be OK if this dark yellow, yellowed, so why not just use linseed?
When they refer to 'yellowing' for linseed oil it's not strictly speaking just becoming more yellow, it's more a sienna colour so it would negatively impact even yellows, as well as any lighter-valued mixtures.

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Think I'll try another brand for a Cadmium lemon.
FWIW their Cadmium Lemon should be pretty much what you expect from the swatches I've seen.

Just on you not liking to open tubes in the store, given the huge savings to be found online I think one of the only reasons to buy in person is that you can open tubes up and have a quick peek at the content. Without this key advantage I rarely see the point except for a time issue where you can't wait for a delivery.

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*And consequently their Cadmium Yellow is much more orange than is typical and so on with the Cad Yellow Deep, which is a light orange to my eyes.
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Re: Winsor & Newton Artists' Oil Colors palette based on Bill Martin

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/arch...p/t-54575.html
I just found this.
So the Cadmium Yellow Pale just wouldn't work as a light yellow for mixing?

Hope that people reading this, and thinking of using it, will realize that Cad Yellow Pale it is labeled wrong.
Maybe because it is made/named in France. It should be called Cad Yellow Gold or something similar.
A palette using it as a light yellow would miss out on a wide range of colour.
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