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Old 05-08-2011, 11:03 PM
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LA Rt10 Porch with Flag

Yesterday sketched my front porch from the side driveway. Very hasty,since the skeeters were eating me up.

16x20 acrylic on stretched and gessoed kraft paper.

Looks a little brighter IRL

Today did a studio variation experiment using acrylics on sopping wet kraft paper and only water instead of acrylic medium. Did not stretch the paper, took the picture while it was still very wet; waiting to see how badly it buckles. The brown of the kraft paper will probably dry a lighter shade.

I forgot to draw the boundaries of a 16x20 so this is 18x20 with a corner torn off.


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Re: LA Rt10 Porch with Flag

Love the first one - the plein air shows spontaneity and it has a lot of character. Somehow the second one just isn't as interesting as the first.
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I like your finished one best. How did it dry? Keep posting.
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Old 05-11-2011, 01:08 PM
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Re: LA Rt10 Porch with Flag

Thanks Lauraart, observation appreciated.

Thanks dor. It did dry a little lighter; posting the dried one so you can compare. Not much lighter, but still significant to me. Live and learn. Next I am going to glaze over it with gloss acrylic medium to see if that darkens the paper at all.



I hope the difference can be seen.

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I'm watching!
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:18 PM
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Re: LA Rt10 Porch with Flag

@ Dor

I did a little test on the Kraft paper to see if a medium would get the brown as dark as when the paper is wet. A little darker, but not very close to the wet color.

of course the wet part is on the right.
So I coated the painting with the matte medium with the following result:

I hope the subtle dark shift can be seen as that is what happened. Still not dark enough, but all that I can think of to do to this particular piece.

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This technique is completely new to me.........So forgive the question.........but why don't you just mix up some (dark) color and paint over where you want it darker? dor
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@ dor

Very good question,(since that is the first thing I asked myself) so there are a couple of things to consider.

What basically is trying to be done is change the ground color to what it looked like when the kraft was wet.

The ground color shows through in many patches, large and small and very irregular, so you would have to paint each patch exactly to shape and size. Maybe the restorers of Da Vinci's Last Supper could do it, but I don't have the skill nor the patience needed.

The lesson I learned from this trial was that the kraft has to be gessoed with the final ground color desired, unless of course the color of dry brown kraft paper is what is wanted. Even then I think you have to take into account the fact that the kraft paper will probably bleach to a lighter color after extended exposure to light; maybe someone has some hard information on that and can enlighten (no pun intended) us.

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The other idea is to keep it wet by spritzing with water..........grin

Thanks for explaining to me..........dor
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