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03-20-2012, 11:47 AM
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Old Ruined Church - FINISHED
Hi, I Love to draw old buildings mainly built of stone as they tend to have more texture and shade. I use the graphite pencil as this is my favoured drawing medium. This is a W.I.P. drawing of an old church ruin close to where I live, also with a reference photo.
A problem I foresee (marked on the ref photo) is where the rough stonework joins onto the Smoother stonework of the tower, it just does not look natural. I have recently visited the site of the ruin and discovered that it is in fact a hidden recessed corner that my camera angle does not show. I had though maybe doing one of two idea's, either continuing the rough stonework completely across to the left corner of the tower. Or the one I favour, to draw the smoother stonework across to the right corner of the tower which I think will blend in with the higher stonework of the tower. What do you think?
Being a newbie I haven't kept track of the hours spent on the drawing so far, but I started it around 3 weeks ago. The pencils used are clutch pencils 2H, H, HB, B, 2B, 3B
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03-20-2012, 11:54 AM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
Hello, well it looks like there is more *rough* bricks in the photo than that one area. Do you have any way to enlarge the photo? I think that would display what you want to see, better. But I agree, I love the old buildings and especially the old brick.
All the best to you on this. What size is this and what paper are you using?
Bless you. Irma
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03-20-2012, 12:15 PM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
It is a beautiful old building and you have a wonderful start to it! I will be watching your progress! 
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03-20-2012, 12:41 PM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
Amri,
The original Ref photo is 3520 x 2346 pixels (5.35mb) so could easily be enlarged within Photoshop.
The drawing is A4 size, drawn on Goldline Bristol Board Smooth.
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03-21-2012, 11:43 AM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
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Originally Posted by yogiadobe
Amri,
The original Ref photo is 3520 x 2346 pixels (5.35mb) so could easily be enlarged within Photoshop.
The drawing is A4 size, drawn on Goldline Bristol Board Smooth.
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Here is a link for those of *us* that don't refer to paper by *A?* or *B?* www.dpandi.com/paper/index.html size of paper converter.  *eye* need it.
Yes Yogi, that is big enough to enlarge or manipulate  . All the best to you on this. You are doing a GRAND job. I look forward to seeing this come along.
Coy, that paper size is what the British or English use, I believe. Or is it recognized as *Europe*? Or I may be wrong there, too... does Asia too?
Anyway, he answered that in my question. I have to check when people say that size. Hope the link helps.
Bless you folks. IRma
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03-24-2012, 11:33 AM
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Here is a link for those of *us* that don't refer to paper by *A?* or *B?* www.dpandi.com/paper/index.html size of paper converter.  *eye* need it.
Coy, that paper size is what the British or English use, I believe. Or is it recognized as *Europe*? Or I may be wrong there, too... does Asia too?
Anyway, he answered that in my question. I have to check when people say that size. Hope the link helps.
Bless you folks. IRma
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Irma, I think it's a kind of a rest of the world thing. Like miles and kilometres; litres and pints; colour and color. 
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03-24-2012, 12:25 PM
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Irma, I think it's a kind of a rest of the world thing. Like miles and kilometres; litres and pints; colour and color. 
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Michael ~
well I know *colour* and such, and am trying to learn metric, but you forgot *chesterfield*....  ha ha ha
ok.... well I'll keep my list handy.  And I think I got what end of the pencil to use, too.... so don't need that *point* made.  ha ha ha
Bless you silly man!!! Irma
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03-20-2012, 01:11 PM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
Hello yogiadobe .... what a nice start! I think you will have to decide how to handle that problem place when you get to it. Perhaps draw around it and then do what you can to make it all fit together.
We have another member here who does excellent architectural drawings from your neck of the woods ... logie
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03-20-2012, 01:45 PM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
Thanks Ken for pointing me towards logie, I have viewed his threads and visited his web pages and as you say his architectral drawings are excellent, and I'm sure will inspire me in my quest to finish this old ruined church, and indeed any future architectural drawings I attempt.
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03-21-2012, 11:38 AM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
Nice start, good perspective. What size is it?
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03-21-2012, 11:42 AM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
Sorry I just saw your post, A4
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03-21-2012, 12:32 PM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
Hi yogiadobe
Great start. My first thought is try not to slavishly follow the ref photograph, optical distortions can cause perspective problems. I try to establish the horizontal eye line and then locate the vanishing points left and right for the primary features.
To answer your query regarding smooth and textured stone, you have only drawn the smooth areas (not so smooth) so far, when you have drawn the rougher areas you can then assess what additional emphasis is required.It may be you use a kneadable eraser to taken down the intensity of the texture already added. I think Ken is right move on with the drawing then sit back and take stock.
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03-21-2012, 12:49 PM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
This is off to a very good start, I personally will abstain from any suggestions, I think you are being helped by the best so I will just pull up a chair, watch and learn..
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03-21-2012, 12:50 PM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
Thanks one and all for your lovely comments and indeed your advice. Your support for a newbie at graphite pencil drawing is very very welcome.
Amri, yes it is as you say, an English paper size. I don't know if it is used in Europe or Asia, but in future posts I will try to refer to the US equivalent.
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03-21-2012, 01:11 PM
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Re: W.I.P of Old Ruined Church
This is looking really good so far, look forward to the next installment!
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