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Johannes Instructor
01-22-2012, 07:51 PM
This time we are doing sunsets because I demoed these last class. Here are 2 photos. Select the one you like the best. Remember don't copy the photos verbatim. Just use them to gather ideas. The clouds in the top photo need more design. Their protrusions are too similar and the clouds in the bottom photo go from the warm to cool too quickly in the fluffly highlights of the clouds.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Jan-2012/135220-IMG_1421.JPG



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Jan-2012/135220-IMG_1434.jpg

Sonni
01-22-2012, 09:40 PM
I see similar values in the clouds and water in the second one. I 'm guessing the water shape should be a value darker?

Johannes Instructor
01-22-2012, 11:53 PM
I see similar values in the clouds and water in the second one. I 'm guessing the water shape should be a value darker?
It is not about respecting the photo. It is about respecting the prinicples of artistic beauty. If we match the water with the sky we won't have a feeling of depth. Therefore we have to make the water darker. Good call!

chodi
01-23-2012, 10:16 AM
Thank you! First webinar for me. I really like the instruction and working on these nice photos as homework. Very formative!

Susi B
01-23-2012, 11:16 AM
Greetings from Tucson Jo!
After yesterday's class, I raced out to Saguaro NP (15 minutes) and managed to arrive right at dusk. Here's what I tried to do:
Dark clouds cooler at the horizon and warmer at the zenith
Fluffy clouds warmer at the horizon and cooler at the zenith - although there wasn't a lot of white clouds at that time.
Abstract shapes - my mountains have a little bit of the railroad action going that I didn't notice at first
Melodic lines
Gradient planes - 3 mountain ranges, the plains with the water and the palo verdes and saguaros in the front.Feedback and comments appreciated, as always.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2012/983284-IMG_1492.JPG



Thanks again for making these courses happen,
SHB

www.SusiHavensBezaire.com (http://www.SusiHavensBezaire.com)

kittierue
01-23-2012, 04:37 PM
Susi,
In general, if you want critique you can post in the student critique thread, otherwise he usually waits until lecture to review homework. Nice job, btw. I used to live in Scottsdale when I was a verrrry young woman.

Kittie


Greetings from Tucson Jo!
After yesterday's class, I raced out to Saguaro NP (15 minutes) and managed to arrive right at dusk. Here's what I tried to do:
Dark clouds cooler at the horizon and warmer at the zenith
Fluffy clouds warmer at the horizon and cooler at the zenith - although there wasn't a lot of white clouds at that time.
Abstract shapes - my mountains have a little bit of the railroad action going that I didn't notice at first
Melodic lines
Gradient planes - 3 mountain ranges, the plains with the water and the palo verdes and saguaros in the front.Feedback and comments appreciated, as always.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Jan-2012/983284-IMG_1492.JPG



Thanks again for making these courses happen,
SHB

www.SusiHavensBezaire.com (http://www.SusiHavensBezaire.com)

LadyMadonna
01-23-2012, 05:04 PM
This is my sunset for the homework done in oils. I must say I had an incredibly difficult time with this one...

shrswmn
01-24-2012, 08:37 AM
sunset for homework 2---pastels

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Jan-2012/973438-IMGP6207.JPG

thank you again. The lights/darks warm/cools are starting to get into dyslexic head.

All critique is very appreciated.

PrimaryColours
01-24-2012, 08:57 AM
Hi Jo & everyones,

Here is my effort from the first reference photo where I use a lot of artistic license.
The last light is quite a challenge to capture in a credible way.
This was done acting on a hunch and hoping for the best.

Oil on linen beech panel (oil-primed) 10x12:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Jan-2012/82429-IMGP3954_web.jpg

chodi
01-24-2012, 12:22 PM
I'm new on the thread and don't know where to look for help on the site.
Upload of picture always failing.
The file is not too large. What am I doing wrong?
Could somebody help me, please?

chodi
01-24-2012, 12:52 PM
I got an answer to my previous question.
Thank you!

emilyopal
01-24-2012, 12:57 PM
701332I had already started this one in oil, not quite finished,,, want to add the foam after it dries, I will do one of the homework photos next

LadyMadonna
01-24-2012, 03:42 PM
I reworked the sunset I posted earlier because I saw some darks not connecting and now I have an overworked painting.
Next..

wetbob
01-25-2012, 03:47 AM
The file is not too large. What am I doing wrong?

There are two restrictions, i think it has to be 800*800 max and less then about 1 mb? you have to make 2 post before uploading, did you?
Guide to upload
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/44487/496/
from
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=514311

hai
01-25-2012, 06:39 AM
Johannes, your demos were excellent. It seems to be so easy, but when I tried...
Below the result. C&C are very welcome.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jan-2012/421961-huisw_2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jan-2012/421961-IMG_4625_2.jpg

elisamaria
01-25-2012, 12:34 PM
Here is my attempt to interpret a sunset in my native surrounding. Looking very much forward to Saturday´s class. Your demo was great and remember something of it. To paint sky is much more difficult for me than I ever thought.
Elisabeth

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jan-2012/735472-P1070010.JPG

Amandine
01-25-2012, 03:42 PM
Thought we had no homework this week. Found we do have one after coming on WC to check new threads and posts. Discovered I painted the 1st photo months ago ; it's among the photos you sold Johannes. So, here it is ; oil on canvas, 11" x 14" :

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jan-2012/661062-soleil_couchant.jpg

xli
01-25-2012, 05:41 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jan-2012/979242-IMG_5105.JPG
I hope it is okay to repost this painting since it is a sunset view. Thank you for your critique.

Alta Imp
01-25-2012, 08:47 PM
The painting is a bit brighter than what the photo is, for some reason the oranges are subdued in the photo and the blues were enhanced. 11X14 Oil on Canvas. Great course, thank so much Johannes.

nougat
01-26-2012, 06:19 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/15364-clouds_wc.JPG

i used watercolour ... and washed off my first attempt... this one is a little better :)
thank you

Malkuth
01-26-2012, 06:30 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/48963-Evening-Strollw.jpg





Pastel on Pastelmat 10 x 14 inches. Who would have thought painting skies would be so difficult! Thank you Jo for showing us how. :clap:

Wendy

LadyMadonna
01-26-2012, 08:50 AM
I tried a another sunset with an acrylic underpainting this time and a simpler composition.

Linda Reyes1959
01-26-2012, 10:55 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/978726-Photo0836.jpg

Sallyabc
01-26-2012, 11:55 AM
Acrylic, 9x12" on canvas paper. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/599812-Skyscape_homework_week_2.JPG

judyfilarecki
01-26-2012, 01:28 PM
I'm resubmitting the painting from last week which I had been working on before class. I've made some revisions from suggestions you made during the demo. I've cropped the painting for this class to focus more on the sky. The actual painting is 9x12 and has a lot more foreground it it.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/190342-wc2_small.jpg

catinlapaz
01-26-2012, 01:46 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/145950-Homework_Week_2.jpg

Thank you.

catinlapaz
01-26-2012, 01:49 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/145950-Essentials_of_Painting_Skies2_001Resized.jpg

This is my second attempt WITHOUT toast from homework Week 1.

Thank you.

valh
01-26-2012, 02:44 PM
Hi J =) Here is week 2 homework

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/40174-ValsSkiesWk2.JPG

horsthh
01-26-2012, 08:21 PM
Pushed the colors a bit (OK a lot) on this 8 by 10 oil. Thanks Johannes for all the work you do

LADickerman
01-26-2012, 09:14 PM
Not only am I learning how to paint but learning how to upload to WC. Thank you so much Jo....I've learned so much from your classes!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/188330-Stormy_Lake_WC.jpg

BUN201
01-26-2012, 09:23 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/119105-plains_sunset.jpg

from your photo

and below, from one of your cloud photos in your demo with my photo of the lighthouse (which I redid after seeing the webinar!!!). Unfortunately the lighting on the bottom is off (too light) and too dark on the top than IRL.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/119105-North_Lighthouse_.jpg

Thanks for the webinar and so much to think about!!!

susanc
01-26-2012, 09:51 PM
Not only am I learning how to paint but learning how to upload to WC. Thank you so much Jo....I've learned so much from your classes!

Yes, uploading sometimes makes the painting process seem to be the easy part of the homework! :thumbsup:

painterted
01-26-2012, 11:30 PM
Hi Joe, week #2 homework.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/909312-Scan20002.jpg

ted

HazelP
01-27-2012, 12:52 AM
Here is my homework for week 2. 16 x 20 in oils.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/915542-P1040398.jpg

Pinklady219
01-27-2012, 12:59 AM
A 5x7 done with Atelier acrylics and other media. It looks better in person in regards to the white in top clouds. Tried for the clouds in the photo.

jeanetteg
01-27-2012, 02:39 AM
Hi Does anyone know how to change the size of the image of my painting? I scanned it and I have taken a picture of it and when I try to up load it I get an error message saying the file is too big. I have not had any trouble uploading a picture before. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Jeanette

shrswmn
01-27-2012, 02:56 AM
another one, not a great photo, but basically represents the shapes and colors.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/973438-IMGP6217.JPG

here's the photo:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/973438-.jpg

Ytra
01-27-2012, 05:04 AM
I painted this on Location on a bright, sunny day in september 2011.
Now I learned too the water has to be darker.
But how can I make this (cool) picture make more warm/sunny?

Ytra
01-27-2012, 05:12 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/174676-2011-10-17__Aquarel_Lugano_3.jpg I painted this on a bright, sunny day in sept.2011. I learned now the lake has to be darker than the sky. But how do I make this painting (cool) painting more warm/sunny?

sprtdc
01-27-2012, 10:35 AM
This came out more red in the photo, than the actual painting. I may try to add a littele pastel and see what happenshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/983220-SSCN2277.JPG

sprtdc
01-27-2012, 10:50 AM
Here is try #2 on trying to get the correct size upload.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/983220-DSCN2276_PS.jpg

marionh
01-27-2012, 11:35 AM
30x40cm Oil on gessoed MDF

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/42113-sunset_800x600.jpg

jeanetteg
01-27-2012, 11:52 AM
This is the best I could get by taking a photo then printing it. I then scanned it so have lost some of the color. This is a combination of both pictures.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/922012-img030.jpg

Sgourlayart
01-27-2012, 12:10 PM
Homework week 2 from first reference photo 9" by 12" oil on canvas panel.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/175408-Skies_Lesson_2__homework.jpg

Holly B.
01-27-2012, 12:17 PM
Started as w.c. over a w.c. ground on canvas, now mostly pastel. Still learning each time about application and mediums too.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/217673-003_640x480.jpg
Loving your critiques, t.y.

colormefancy
01-27-2012, 12:23 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/994502-DSCN1765.jpg This is my first attempt at painting in 9 years. Thank you for the wonderful instructions. I tried to remember the nuggets. Am excited to hear your critique.

NorthCarolinaStudent
01-27-2012, 12:29 PM
701332I had already started this one in oil, not quite finished,,, want to add the foam after it dries, I will do one of the homework photos next

Emily, your sky and ocean are beautiful--lovely expressive wave. Great work! --North Carolina Student.

Sonni
01-27-2012, 02:31 PM
It always amazes me that it takes a photo for me to see what I should or should not have done in a painting, and this is no exception. But I'll let it be for now. Obviously I "grew" the tree and cut out much of the clouds. Also rearranged the mountains, which still need value work, I see now, and played around with the water shape which may need some work as well. Well, heck! Pastel on Canson MT 9x12. 2 hrs.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/111873-homework_week_2_orig_to_post.jpg

Mary54
01-27-2012, 03:39 PM
Homework Week 2

CatherineOnTheLake
01-27-2012, 04:51 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/983267-JV_Sky_Homework_Week_2_Jan_2012_11.JPG

Hi Johannes. Here is homework for Week 2. I wasn't happy with the foreground at all... Tried my best with your instructions for the sky. Thanks for your time. Catherine

4evrAutumn
01-27-2012, 07:16 PM
My first cloud attempt. :) This was done en plein air after a rain storm earlier this week. View is from my back deck, and first hill on left is back of my property. Furthest mtn. is Mt. Wright, San Gabriel mts, CA., with some new snow, finally!

Bad cropping on my part. Clouds are not really all the way to the top. There is another inch or so of sky. Acrylics on acrylic linen paper. Limited palette - yellow ochre, ultramarine blue, diox purple, and gesso. About 1 1/2 hrs. work.

702392

NorthCarolinaStudent
01-27-2012, 07:50 PM
I spent some time on this exercise, still not happy with it. I had painted over a canvas and it had old lines in it. Oil. 24"x18". Just a practice painting.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/774972-2rdweekhomework2.jpg

Sienna black
01-27-2012, 09:15 PM
I don't think I understand how to take a picture that it is accepted here. When I use a smaller size pic, it comes out darker than the painting really is. But anyway, it gives a overall idea of my painting. This is a tiny 5 x 7 " painting, acrylic on canvas. Thanks for everything Jo! Love your class.:wave:

KCP123
01-27-2012, 11:10 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/990562-CapeHatterasSunset.JPG This was a challenge for me in watercolors. The colors faded as they dried too. Kayre

Susi B
01-28-2012, 12:06 AM
Hi Does anyone know how to change the size of the image of my painting? I scanned it and I have taken a picture of it and when I try to up load it I get an error message saying the file is too big. I have not had any trouble uploading a picture before. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Jeanette

Hi Jeanette - It depends on which software you are using to process your photos. Most programs have an option of re-formatting the size of the photo (size in this case means the number of pixels used - not in inches).

Although I'm not familiar with it, Jo recommended a free program last week called Gimp.org which should have a way to create a smaller size. Usually you want 1100 x 700 or something close to that. You should find a command that is called "resize" - usually it is across the top of your page.

I hope this helps - Susi B

Susi B
01-28-2012, 12:10 AM
It always amazes me that it takes a photo for me to see what I should or should not have done in a painting, and this is no exception. But I'll let it be for now. Obviously I "grew" the tree and cut out much of the clouds. Also rearranged the mountains, which still need value work, I see now, and played around with the water shape which may need some work as well. Well, heck! Pastel on Canson MT 9x12. 2 hrs.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/111873-homework_week_2_orig_to_post.jpg
I agree that a photo of a painting is a great critique! Susi B

Holly B.
01-28-2012, 02:55 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/217673-001_640x480.jpg
A Pastel late night submission.

romidvaran
01-28-2012, 05:09 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/954466-IMG_1043.jpg

romidvaran
01-28-2012, 05:10 AM
My first submission. Rose

nougat
01-28-2012, 05:55 AM
Hi Jeanette - It depends on which software you are using to process your photos. Most programs have an option of re-formatting the size of the photo (size in this case means the number of pixels used - not in inches).

Although I'm not familiar with it, Jo recommended a free program last week called Gimp.org which should have a way to create a smaller size. Usually you want 1100 x 700 or something close to that. You should find a command that is called "resize" - usually it is across the top of your page.

I hope this helps - Susi B


what i do is. take the photo of the painting. open it in windows as usual and use the slider to make it as big as will fit properly on the screen. then i use the snipping tool to capture the pic of the painting on my screen and i save that to the desktop.

then i upload that 'capture' to WC no probs.
hope it helps.

sylvia
01-28-2012, 07:38 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/265-sky_sketch_3.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/265-sky_sketch_4.jpg




two attempts at following your "rules" Hope I did OK. I should have darkenend the sea in the first painting. Phyllis

Vida Evenson
01-28-2012, 07:46 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/979063-sky_homework_week_2_try2.jpg

whew..... challenging!

murphe
01-28-2012, 08:31 AM
Threw something up quickly but it's far from finished. Took me longer transfering it to my laptop from phone than painting! Bluetooth!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/218876-IMAG0105s.jpg

Felisa
01-28-2012, 09:19 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/122109-homework3.jpg

Homework for week 2. Gouache and oils on paper. 22 x 30 cms. Thank you for your comments.

upthebloodytree
01-28-2012, 10:05 AM
702582

Here's my attempt, oil on board 40 cm x 30 cm.
It was very difficult to paint wet in wet and not end up with
a green sky !

Ray

Artcat369
01-28-2012, 10:40 AM
Well, here's mine. This was my first watercolor sky. The difficulties with this particular photo is that the sunset had multiple reflected light values and hues, along with some very deep cloud values. I think that I learned from this, however, and would have done things differently - for one, lighter values in the dark clouds. Second, carefully plan where to place my warmer blue skies, and not have the cobalt painted over the first wash of sienna and cobalt orange, as it granulates over the orange, and dulls it into a muddy pale green color. Also, I overworked this and got too "tight". Would have loved more looseness, and more lost and found edges. Let me know what you think! Thanks!http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/979124-art_homework_sky_2_001.JPG

LadyMadonna
01-28-2012, 10:40 AM
I know we are doing sunsets pastels this week and I am very excited about that. I did this one about a year ago..

Johannes Instructor
01-28-2012, 10:50 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2012/174676-2011-10-17__Aquarel_Lugano_3.jpg I painted this on a bright, sunny day in sept.2011. I learned now the lake has to be darker than the sky. But how do I make this painting (cool) painting more warm/sunny?
This should be in the critique section.

Colorix
01-28-2012, 11:18 AM
My first sunset and sky-scape. Finished version (in week 1 it was not finished).

It was hard.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/117343-iz-desat-Sunset-Lcr.jpg

jeanetteg
01-28-2012, 11:39 AM
Thanks Susi B, Nougat and Pinklady for the information. I will definatly use it next time. Jeanette

pat-trew
01-28-2012, 12:19 PM
This is no where near completed, but I feel It needs critiqueing I wanted more fluff and swish to the dark left side, and to tone down the sunset area more and not so rectangular, then add a mangrove tree in the lower right. (A Florida look)http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/105243-DSCN1031.JPG

beachlover
01-28-2012, 12:43 PM
acrylic on canvas. the left side of the paper rolled up.

beachlover
01-28-2012, 12:51 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/188769-sunset_.jpg

nougat
01-28-2012, 02:11 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2012/15364-clouds_wc.JPG

i used watercolour ... and washed off my first attempt... this one is a little better :)
thank you


you accidentally skipped my painting in the class, johannes...
could you be kind enough as to give me a comment?
thanks

Artistic License
01-28-2012, 02:26 PM
I didn't get to my computer in time and am missing the last class. I am so disappointed!

Johannes Instructor
02-03-2012, 10:42 PM
My first sunset and sky-scape. Finished version (in week 1 it was not finished).

It was hard.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Jan-2012/117343-iz-desat-Sunset-Lcr.jpg
The sky has a nice feeling but do you think you needed the green?

Alta Imp
07-25-2012, 05:00 PM
At the time we were working on skies homework, I wasn't very happy with either of my homework submissions so decided to do another sky picture (Johannes's Misty Morning) and had most of this painted but not finished until now. Have learned so much more about painting snow and water since then, just need to practice, practice, practice!! 18X24 oil on hardboard. Barb

Johannes Instructor
07-25-2012, 07:23 PM
At the time we were working on skies homework, I wasn't very happy with either of my homework submissions so decided to do another sky picture (Johannes's Misty Morning) and had most of this painted but not finished until now. Have learned so much more about painting snow and water since then, just need to practice, practice, practice!! 18X24 oil on hardboard. Barb
Very very nice Barb.