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sherrysherman
11-05-2011, 04:36 PM
Create a little vignette of at lest 5 evergreens clumped together. Use black and white, no color. You can do it by hand (e.g., using a brush) or using a computer program like gimp or photoshop. All protrusions (tree tops) and gaps between trees should be different heights, depths, and widths. Have a melodic line at the bottom. The sides of all trees should be asymmetrical.

That's all I heard.

Here's Johannes's example:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Nov-2011/616112-Class_4_homework_sample..jpg

Colorix
11-05-2011, 04:45 PM
My, you're quick, Sherry! I think he also said that we *can* copy the shapes of some other painters paintings (I'm assuming he means the really good ones). And, look at your negative shapes!

Pinklady219
11-05-2011, 05:08 PM
Well here goes while it is fresh in my head. BTW thanks Sherry, I just took a chance to post and wella, you are on the ball!! Thank you Johannes, you are a great personable, well informed teacher.:clap:

sherrysherman
11-05-2011, 06:35 PM
My, you're quick, Sherry! I think he also said that we *can* copy the shapes of some other painters paintings (I'm assuming he means the really good ones). And, look at your negative shapes!

Charlie, that's a screen shot of Johannes's example, not mine!! I am still in the webinar.....

robertsloan2
11-05-2011, 07:08 PM
I got out some watercolors and did this three times, very fast. Color is Paynes Grey because I took the Ivory Black out of my kit.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Nov-2011/70184-11-05-2011-JV-Class-Homework-5-Pines.jpg

Second try:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Nov-2011/70184-11-05-2011-JV-Class-Homework-5-Pines-2.jpg

Third one I got a cool effect and liked it. Might do something like this again.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Nov-2011/70184-11-05-2011-JV-Class-Homework-5-Pines-3.jpg

I was using a water brush and I angled the brush more, so the base of it where the paint was thinner trailed off into a soft edge. I liked that more than having a hard edge on the pines, it was like fog rolling in below a hill top.

Obion
11-05-2011, 07:51 PM
:thumbsup: 6Trees - one to many
5http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Nov-2011/42526-Art_5_Trees_Home_Work__3.jpg

~ Barbara

arp8nter
11-05-2011, 10:33 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Nov-2011/79422-Johannes.homework.evergreens.jpg

Johannes,

I disagree with one thing you said today - you can make shapes that are not abstract even when working with negative spaces. I made several mistakes when using negative space to correct the positive space and made a worse shape than I started with! Hopefully practice will make it easier.

Cindy

sherrysherman
11-06-2011, 12:07 AM
Johannes,

I disagree with one thing you said today - you can make shapes that are not abstract even when working with negative spaces. I made several mistakes when using negative space to correct the positive space and made a worse shape than I started with! Hopefully practice will make it easier.

Cindy

Cindy, I agree with you - I even made that comment on the Control Panel during the webinar. I absolutely can make symmetrical, non-abstract shapes when working with negative painting. Airplane wings are especially easy.
And as you say, you go to "correct" one positive shape-- and wind up creating a symmetrical negative shape. Like you, I hope doing it enough will make asymmetry and non-repetition slightly more automatic. Or at least slightly more obvious to me when I do it.

sherrysherman
11-06-2011, 12:28 AM
Well, I'm sure that as soon as I post this, I'll start seeing all the symmetries, same depths, widths, lined up indentations, matching protrusions.....

Maybe I'll also try this by hand, using a dark stick of pastel. I'm thinking that will be a different exercise, and also more similar to actually painting.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Nov-2011/616112-Homework_Week_4.jpg

Vida Evenson
11-06-2011, 06:03 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Nov-2011/979063-homework_week_4,_evergreens.jpg

Sherry, you're right! As soon as I uploaded this I saw clones :eek:

Have a great day everyone.... yesterday's webinar was FABULOUS!

Vida

pacificNW
11-06-2011, 02:48 PM
Sherry, thanks for posting Johannes' example. I'm finding this to be quite challenging using the computer...your trees are very nice. Too bad we couldn't use violet, haha. I hope to get as good as you with practice. I may have another go at it with paint, or perhaps some chunky markers.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Nov-2011/49552-Homework_Week_4.jpg

seagrape
11-06-2011, 05:54 PM
Here are my five pines. Thank you for all the information!......Joyce

seagrape
11-06-2011, 05:58 PM
Oops still learning how to post images......Joyce

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Nov-2011/956206-class-110511.jpg

Fiestyone
11-06-2011, 06:56 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Nov-2011/952791-Week_4_Homework.jpg

Realized I made mistake on my first submission...so this is my second try at the HW for week 4....



Janet[/QUOTE]

Johannes Instructor
11-06-2011, 08:20 PM
I will review your homework next Saturday. Please be patient.

Colorix
11-07-2011, 10:16 AM
Charlie, that's a screen shot of Johannes's example, not mine!! I am still in the webinar.....

I meant that he said we should watch our negative spaces. Sorry for not being clear on that.

sherrysherman
11-07-2011, 11:21 AM
I meant that he said we should watch our negative spaces. Sorry for not being clear on that.

Ohhhhh! When you said, "My, you're quick, Sherry! ... And look at your negative shapes!" I thought you were admiring the negative shapes in the vignette I posted, mistakenly thinking it was my own. :)

So in his instructions, Johannes told us to pay attention to the negative spaces as well as the positive shapes we are creating, making sure BOTH are abstract, differing in height, depth, width; no clones in the white as well as the black. Good reminder.

Sallyabc
11-07-2011, 11:48 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/599812-Homework_17_group_of_trees.jpg
Selma

JayLynn
11-07-2011, 11:59 AM
I thought I posted my homework, but I don't see it. Does anyone have any ideas what might have happened?
Jeri

pacificNW
11-07-2011, 12:21 PM
I thought I posted my homework, but I don't see it. Does anyone have any ideas what might have happened?
Jeri

Hi Jeri,

Here is a link to an answer I gave on this in the last homework assignment thread and it seemed to work. It is from Homework Week #3 and is post #44. Hope it helps.

Colleen

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14134440&postcount=44

JayLynn
11-07-2011, 12:30 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/872052-Evergreens_Homework_1.jpg

pacificNW
11-07-2011, 02:41 PM
Here's my 2nd attempt in Photoshop, this time varying the pencil size which I found easier. This is getting pretty fun. :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/49552-Homework_II_Week_4.jpg

Sgourlayart
11-07-2011, 03:16 PM
Week 4 homework Stuhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/175408-TREES--Week_4_homework.JPG

JayLynn
11-07-2011, 03:29 PM
Thank you Coleen. Johannes sent instructions but I didn't see one of the steps the first time I tried to post. I appreciate your help.

JayLynn

Susan Peltonen
11-07-2011, 04:12 PM
Here is this my homework with the small grouping of trees. Boy was this challenging for me! I kept making clones and symmetrical shapes. These are done in pastel. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/153022-final-2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/153022-final.jpg

Holly B.
11-07-2011, 04:33 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/217673-DSC03199_640x480.jpg

Thank you so much Johannes for the post class time teachings. It was wonderful spending the day with so many people doing what we all love!

(And i'm over the "it's too hard" bit, just loving the 'work').

R Leon
11-07-2011, 07:38 PM
Susan, I really like your pastel trees! :clap: They look mysterious and coastal.

R Leon
11-07-2011, 07:59 PM
This was harder than it looked. I tried the black on white. Then, while I tried to paint just by negative shapes on black paper, I came up with a pastel white on black that I liked (although not in Susan's class). Then I tried again just to paint the trees with negative shapes. It is REALLY REALLY hard to paint negative shapes and now I already see the negative clones.

It's not really pink - the sun was setting through the window.

Still, I can see this will be a very valuable exercise to repeat. It can be done quickly with any media with just small pad of paper. Practice makes better (perfect is not the goal). I think I'll start doing doodles of tree groupings while waiting for my husband at the doctor's and places like that.

tennisqueen
11-07-2011, 07:59 PM
My first attempt.....this to much fun!!!! I am going to try again:)http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/88714-evergreen_sillouttte.jpg

tennisqueen
11-07-2011, 09:26 PM
My second attempt.......http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Nov-2011/88714-evergreen2jpg.jpg

HazelP
11-08-2011, 03:45 AM
Here is my homework for week 4. My small granddaughters were wanting to draw with the 'smuggy things' so I decided to try my hand at pastells this time.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2011/915542-homework_week_4.jpg

Moyer
11-08-2011, 03:32 PM
Just having fun with my wacom'''':clap: :clap:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2011/187408-trees4.jpg

pacificNW
11-08-2011, 03:43 PM
Awesome :thumbsup:

harospro
11-08-2011, 03:46 PM
I painted this over an older painting to conserve paper. It's done with paines gray over a primary blue wash. These type of trees have always given me trouble. This is the best I have ever done thanks to your lesson Johannes. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2011/210339-evergreens_001.jpg

MarilynWinAL
11-08-2011, 04:26 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2011/102368-Five_trees_plus_one_fallen_001.jpg Hi everyone. Really enjoyed last Saturday's lesson; stayed till the very end and still wanted more....lol. Not sure how to enter my homework, so if there is no image, would someone please inform me how to proceed. Thanks. Well here goes. Okay, guess I figured it out. :clap: This is W/C on 140lb arches.

pastelmimigt
11-08-2011, 06:36 PM
I missed the 11/5 class. When will we get the streaming video?

Michele

Obion
11-08-2011, 06:50 PM
5 Trees second attempt
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2011/42526-Art_5_trees__2nd.jpg

~ Barbara

pastelpainter62
11-08-2011, 07:49 PM
Finally had a chance to do some homework! Thanks, Johannes.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2011/198015-Homework_11-12-11_001.jpg



BB

Wetpaint0938
11-08-2011, 10:56 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Nov-2011/980416-notans.jpg I did 4 one one sheet Did them on Photo Shop cs4

Monica1
11-09-2011, 02:12 PM
Here is my submission for this week. I thought it would be easier but it wasn't...My brain keeps playing tricks on me!

Monica:)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Nov-2011/975849-evergreens1.jpg

ilovewc
11-09-2011, 05:07 PM
This is my first attemt at uploading and my first attempt to use the computer to "negative paint". I need to learn to use my tools better!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Nov-2011/876852-HOMEWORK_FINAL_week_4.jpg

Sandra39
11-09-2011, 06:01 PM
Hi - Somehow I thought I heard Johannes said " Do five groups of five trees", so here they are:

Sorry, I clicked twice on the image and so there are double images. Don't know how to fix it.

Sandi C.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Nov-2011/228319-Groups_of_Tree_homework_week-4.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Nov-2011/228319-Groups_of_Tree_homework_week-4.jpg

Mary54
11-09-2011, 06:05 PM
Here are my trees. I'm not sure the largest tree turned out that well.

Johannes Instructor
11-09-2011, 07:52 PM
I missed the 11/5 class. When will we get the streaming video?

Michele
Already posted.

Pinklady219
11-09-2011, 09:23 PM
I'm having a good time in Gimp--here is my submission in Gimpvision. I will be using Gimp for picture planning--it's a good tool. I'll post my creation in critiques.

crazywoman53
11-09-2011, 09:25 PM
I missed this last weekends class while I was on vacation traveling so I am basing this on what I "think" you wanted.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Nov-2011/137465-tree-homework.jpg

Alta Imp
11-09-2011, 09:55 PM
So the first one was a warm up copy of your group of trees Johannes, I kept trying to make a group where each tree was significantly different but did not succeed. It seems the more I thought about it the worse it got.... more practice needed.

robertsloan2
11-10-2011, 04:29 AM
I had so much fun with this the first time that I had a go again, this time just using the black brush pen on an ATC sheet.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/70184-11-10-2011-JV-Class-Homework-Pen-Version.jpg
Five Evergreens Silhouette
2 1/2" x 3 1/2"
Pitt Artist Pen on Borden & Riley recycled paper.

susanc
11-10-2011, 01:27 PM
Hi Johannes--
I'm still working on getting a good photo of last week's homework! (Hmm. Maybe it's the painting, not the photo that's the problem? ;) )
In the meantime, here's my attempt at this week's homework.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/1697-evergreens1c_copy.jpg

susanc
11-10-2011, 02:32 PM
Looks like today I'm making up for all the posts I haven't made in the last few months! Just missed being able to edit it by a couple of minutes!

I thought the angle of the small evergreen was leaning too far out and tweaked it a little. Hopefully it's a bit better now.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/1697-evergreenweek4_copy2.jpg

eduj
11-10-2011, 03:51 PM
Hi Johannes, My first attempt at homework; done in charcoal. I appreciate all you've given during ALL of your info-packed classes! Great instructions and nuggets; I just need a bigger brain to contain them all! Jude

tuzigoot
11-10-2011, 05:54 PM
No black so I tried Torrit grey - too stiff so added prussian blue. Funny how this works - I thought I had it down, and now realize I have all these pointers. Lesson learned. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/959270-bw_trees_1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/959270-bw_trees_2.jpg

Monica1
11-10-2011, 07:01 PM
After watching the video more times, I decided to try again. I'm having trouble designing these trees. Still doesnt' look right.



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/975849-ever2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/975849-ever3.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/975849-ever4.jpg

Amandine
11-10-2011, 07:59 PM
So, here's my homework. Done with Promarker cool grey # 5 on drawing paper.
Not easy to do 5 trees not the same height, not the same shape, not the same width ... nothing similar. :confused:
Here's something funny : when I showed my trees to my husband, he said it was too much like abstract art, that they didn't look like evergreens enough. :lol:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Nov-2011/661062-coniferes.jpg

pastelmimigt
11-11-2011, 11:42 AM
Created with Gimp.

Michele

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/78182-Homework_Week_4_-_crop_10.jpg

valh
11-11-2011, 11:58 AM
I did about half a dozen different groupings using different materials such as marker pens. This one is Derwent sketching pencil on used copy paper and washed with a wee bit of water. I got carried away/lost on the right side of centre. :-/
This exercise sure makes ya think......
Cheers!
Val H

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/40174-IMG_9430.JPG

mfarns
11-11-2011, 12:47 PM
Discovered I can't post a homework image until I've made 2 posts...so here's no. 2. Great class. Would love to study with this guy in person. Not sure how the homework review works...is it before the lesson starts?...same link? I've managed to miss lessons 2, 3, and 4 live due to conflicts but plan to be there tomorrow.

mfarns
11-11-2011, 12:49 PM
Decided to try a homework assignment. Not sure what I'm doing, but that's never stopped me before.:) Ivory black wc pencil with Payne's gray touch-up.
Mike Farnsworth
Aurora, Colorado

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/979309-trees.jpg

Scotkatidid
11-11-2011, 01:00 PM
It certainly isn't as easy as it looks (especially when old habits creep in) Johannes - here are my 3 efforts..as a group, I think I got it right on the 3rd pic.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/174208-TREES_Lesson_4.jpg

Wetpaint0938
11-11-2011, 01:47 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/980416-IMG_0011.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/980416-IMG_0010.JPG

jmcedeno
11-11-2011, 02:48 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/159973-IMG_2629.JPG This is a very good exercise for loosing up, thanks Johannes.

rib00
11-11-2011, 03:52 PM
Hopefully, I have this one down. Happy to hear comments.

Sue Stiltz
11-11-2011, 04:14 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/949086-homework1.jpg

This is the 1st time I've found out where to upload homework. This was done with permanent markers on white sketching paper. My 1st time submitting work and haven't done any for about 20 years. Open to all suggestions ... thank you. Must say I love your classes. You teaching technique is the best I've come across. Thank you! I hope you found your dog. Felt so bad to hear he got away in Jackson ... Sue S

alisajo1
11-11-2011, 04:23 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/979307-week_4_homeworkb.jpg

Harder than I thought!!!

Alisa

dljaques
11-11-2011, 04:32 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/128281-Pine_Trees.jpg

jillmc3
11-11-2011, 04:51 PM
Great exercise, harder than it looks when you do it, Johannes! Watercolor on ATC pad.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/153055-homework-trees4.jpg

roanmare
11-11-2011, 05:06 PM
I am new. I like the homework idea. Is it a weekly deal? Is it watercolor based? It must be quite a job for the mentor/critiquer. Hope it continues and that I can post.

mclarkinmontana
11-11-2011, 05:10 PM
I've been a bad student - not doing homework... (because I've been painting my studio) Well - here is my homework - on the studio wall using a 2.5" trim brush - pretty fun actually:D Note the paint tray in photo #3
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/400641-Black_Tree_Shapes_001.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/400641-Black_Tree_Shapes_002.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/400641-Black_Tree_Shapes_003.jpg

roanmare
11-11-2011, 05:11 PM
Hope this works. I know I overdid my homework. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/980707-Nov037.jpg

jackieraye
11-11-2011, 05:19 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/975853-5_pines.jpg Drawn with a Sharpie marker.

elisamaria
11-11-2011, 05:56 PM
I just love these instructive classes!
Elisabeth

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Nov-2011/735472-P1060463.JPG

sherrysherman
11-11-2011, 06:52 PM
... Not sure how the homework review works...is it before the lesson starts?...same link? I've managed to miss lessons 2, 3, and 4 live due to conflicts but plan to be there tomorrow.

Hi Mike--

The way it's worked so far is Johannes starts the class with all of us in GoToWebinar. He just goes through the homework, bringing it up on his computer, commenting on each, and we watch his screen. If he wants to actually show suggestions, changes, etc to what was posted, he will open the image on his computer using Photoshop Elements and make the changes while we watch. Ditto if he wants to draw or demonstrate something on the fly, he'll just open a new file in Ph. Elements and show us; that's what he did to create his sample 5-tree vignette. We'll be able to see it all on his screen, exactly as he is seeing it.

You should have received his email by now telling us the class will start in GoToWebinar. After homework review, we'll all switch to justin.tv where we will watch him painting - the video is pre-recorded, but he will be commenting live on his thinking and his process. (tomorrow's painting is in acrylics; the link to the ref photo is in the same email.) If you think you might want to join in the chat with other students, you need to sign on at justin, give yourself a password. You can do that right now if you want - you will retain that sign-in password for future videos.

(Aurora, huh? I'm just east of the Tech Center.)

LLeone
11-12-2011, 02:01 AM
I hope this works. Now that I've finished, I can see clones in my effort here.

Rosemarie
11-12-2011, 03:41 AM
:clap: Here is my homework for this week. I saw the cloned negative space after uploading the image!!!:rolleyes:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/2623-Homework_4_trees001.jpg

raxu
11-12-2011, 04:21 AM
here my first try --- sorry, travelling, had only this lousy pen with me :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/171274-m_IMG_2761.jpg

too jagged?

kathart
11-12-2011, 09:48 AM
Thanks,everyone, for the help. Fran

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/964116-HOMEWORK2.jpg

raxu
11-12-2011, 09:58 AM
noticed my trees were lining up! Funny I did not see it before posting...

here the edited version
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/171274-m_IMG_2762.jpg

and then I came home to my watercolors, here 2 fast trys

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/171274-m_IMG_2763.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/171274-m_IMG_2765.jpg

I'm sure as soon as I hit the send-button magically some clones or jagged lines appear :D

beart
11-12-2011, 10:14 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/88528-homework_trees.JPG
I did this with Microsoft Paint. Now, I can see a problem. The trees are lined up like a slant in a hill going to the left. :(

Artglo
11-12-2011, 11:32 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/941462-trees_homework0001A.jpg

sherrysherman
11-12-2011, 11:36 AM
I'm sure as soon as I hit the send-button magically some clones or jagged lines appear :D

LOL! Yes, based on my own experience, I'm pretty sure there is a built-in app on WC that "fixes" our asymmetries and abstract shapes by automatically making sides and heights match, the spaces nice and even, and shapes duplicate each other. :rolleyes: That's clearly why we don't see those things till we post it. (And then when J starts commenting on homework before mine comes up, I'm thinking to myself, "Oh shoot, I made that mistake. And that one. And of course that one...")

Artglo
11-12-2011, 11:37 AM
My trees homework is above. Thanks Artglo

*Deirdre*
11-12-2011, 11:55 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/33616-Untitled-1.jpg
Charcoal on Card....missed the lecture due to daughter's wedding, but hopefully remembered enough from the previous lectures covering trees in photographs.

PainterDeb
11-12-2011, 12:35 PM
Here's my attempt. I had to miss last week's class, hope to watch it later today. This was done with Paint on the computer.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Nov-2011/185273-Evergreens.JPG