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karenboss
03-14-2003, 03:17 PM
A new project has been announced in the WetCanvas! project system!

Title: Watercolor Glazing Project
Project Leader: karenboss
Relative Difficulty: Easy
Type Restrictions: Painting
Medium: Watercolor paints
Subject: Not Applicable
Days open for signups: Always
Maximum participants allowed: Unlimited

Description:

Pick three primary colors (one yellow, one blue and one red) only. Lay your colors down in glazes to achieve secondary colors. No mixing on palette or on the paper. You can use wet in wet, modulate and vary the wash in tone as long as you don't introduce more than one pigment into a wash. My example was done with Lemon Yellow, Perm rose and quin (winsor) blue. Any subject, any composition, abstract, realistic, impressionistic, whatever you like.

Additional Information:

For more information on the project: Click here! (http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/browse_details.php?proj_id=385)

Remember, in order to help keep the discussions on projects organized, you should post your questions, suggestions, and comments on submitted work here in this thread. By doing this, we allow other non-project efforts to not get "pushed down" by a swarm of project-related threads.

mustcreate
03-14-2003, 05:32 PM
oh this sounds like a fun challenge Karen!!

I'm all signed up...now I just have to finish up the 4 paintings sitting on my desk and I'll get to it!! :D

em

pampe
03-14-2003, 06:06 PM
cool...I'll have at it when I get back next week

Faafil
03-14-2003, 11:55 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19360

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/3876/tn_skull.jpg

:D decided to throw this one up there - it was from my 4th of 8 wks. beginner watercolor class in Oct. 2001 - glazing with 3 colors. Cad yellow, ultramarine blue and alizarin crimson. I remember how fun it was to do - I just may try a new one...

karenboss
03-15-2003, 01:44 PM
well, I guess my project got approved! Yes, it's from my begining watercolor class, and it's a great beginer project or back to basics, but it will be especially fun to see what can be done with it from the non-beginners.

Glad to see there's interest! I've been away from the forum for a few days due to mid-terms :mad: - hopefully today I will start mine.

Thanks for participating!! It should be fun!

karenboss
03-15-2003, 05:33 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19360

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/3876/tn_skull.jpg

:clap: :clap: :clap:
what a great peice! - I love the abstract quality that this has!

karenboss
03-15-2003, 05:36 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19380

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4697/tn_6.jpg

Well, here's a go at it... and some advise for anyone who hasn't started yet... make sure the colors you choose will combine to make a good dark. I didn't, so I'm going to have to cheat to finish this... also, I tried more opaque colors, and was surprised that they worked OK, not too muddy.

Faafil
03-15-2003, 06:05 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19380

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4697/tn_6.jpg

wowow, nice landscape Karen. It's a good exercise isn't it ? I actually found the instructions from my class, so I'm gonna have another go at it (since I think I've improved somewhat since then) :D

You're right, it's gonna be interesting to see what the powerhouse painters come up with.

Fun project - thanks! :clap:

tigre255
03-15-2003, 06:50 PM
OK you sucked me in.:rolleyes:....not that I haven't enough to do.....still working on my postcards......I'm going to sign up anyway....sounds like fun......:D

gnu
03-16-2003, 12:33 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19378

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/progress/4697/tn_4.jpg

HEHE haven't you heard of hair dryers??? that's what I use :D :D :D
re the painting...so far so good...

Painter Snoopy
03-16-2003, 08:06 AM
This looks like a fun challenge. I am pretty busy at the moment but am going to have to make time for this one!
Steph

karenboss
03-16-2003, 12:42 PM
I'm going to do another one... the more I look at that barn the more I like it. The colors are very clear and bright.

Faafil -
what pigments did you use??

Faafil
03-16-2003, 01:11 PM
Hi Karen,

I used cad yellow, ultramarine blue and alizarin crimson.

I found the notes from my class:

Orange for the lighter areas
Green for the medium dark areas
Violet for the darkest areas

Make sure each layer is dry before glazing the next.

1. First layer Ultramarine Blue. Leave more white areas than you ordinarily do, keep your darkest areas a little lighter than usual, feel free to try some wet into wet technique but you can use only one color, ultramarine blue.
2. Second layer Alizarin Crimson (make sure not to use Cadmium Red). Use alizarin crimson over your darkest blue areas to turn them violet (lots of water, not too much alizarin crimson, a little goes a long way). Use some light pink color also in some of your very lightest areas or white areas. Do not cover all your blue washes with alizarin crimson; leave your medium dark areas blue.
3. Third layer Cadmium Yellow Medium. Put yellow over your medium dark blue to create green, put yellow over your light pink areas to create orange. Do not eliminate all your white areas.

This is word-for-word from the handout he gave us in the class. Hope this helps ! :D

Kalandra
03-16-2003, 03:06 PM
Hi I'm new here, but I just signed up for this! It may take awhile to post a pic though.....

I'm very much a beginner watercolorer, so this will be interesting.

karenboss
03-16-2003, 05:16 PM
welcome Kalandra! I think your going to like it here! This is a great project for beginners. Have fun with it!

In our beginning water color class she had us use yellow first, covering the largest area, then build light to dark - opposite approach from your instructor, Faafil!

I think the more transparent the more likely success, but I tried several on a scrap piece of paper first. The one I did in class was done with quin gold, thalo blue and perm rose. I just hate using the staining colors when I don't know what I'm doing. But they sure are pretty. Quite a conundrum.

Painter Snoopy
03-16-2003, 08:18 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19403

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/19075/tn_abstractsm.jpg

This is my first offering to this project. I had a blast with this one.

Painter Snoopy
03-16-2003, 08:21 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19404

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/19075/tn_sunsetsm.jpg

I couldn't get the colors quite right in this photo. I tried. It is close enough.:)

Faafil
03-16-2003, 08:36 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19403

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/19075/tn_abstractsm.jpg

What a fun painting ! I like !! :D

Painter Snoopy
03-16-2003, 08:46 PM
How do you put the animations at the bottom of your posts?
Steph

Kalandra
03-16-2003, 09:11 PM
Well, I started, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right? lol, I guess in the long run it doesn't matter, huh. I was painting a vase, and I didn't like it, then I did, and then the top never looks right, LOL.

And I'm really bad with shadows still. I have only done about 10 paintings in the last six months, and one class which was very helpful. It was on ..... um..... one of those artist guy's methods, LOL, can't remember which.

My 6 year old sees me painting and wants to paint, and then gets mad when her's don't look as good as mine, LOL, when mine don't look that good, heh. I tell her to practice and it doesn't matter how it looks as long as SHE likes it.

Anyway, I'll take a pic of it and when I get the film developed I'll let you see the shadowless vase, lol.

karenboss
03-16-2003, 10:38 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19403

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/19075/tn_abstractsm.jpg

Step - this is great - just lots of color and fun.

Kalandra - what a joy to have a six year old to paint with!

karenboss
03-16-2003, 10:40 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19404

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/19075/tn_sunsetsm.jpg

This is pretty cool, too, Steph - boy, you're just knockin' them out now arn't you!!??!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

daveshattuck
03-17-2003, 07:43 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19424

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2016/tn_3clr.JPG

i have never done one like this. i am fairly new to watercolors and i have only mixed on the paper or before i have applied the color to the paper i wanted to give it a try just to see what would happen

dave

Painter Snoopy
03-17-2003, 08:48 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19424

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2016/tn_3clr.JPG

This is great Dave. You and I are in the same boat as far as experience goes. This is my first attempt at this too. I sat and played with it all afternoon yesterday. It was fun.
Steph

karenboss
03-17-2003, 11:16 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19424

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2016/tn_3clr.JPG

Excellent, Mr. Dave! Pretty little flowers - what colors did you use?

karenboss
03-17-2003, 03:00 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19436

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4697/tn_chokesonlsd.jpg

here you go.... quin red, lemon yellow and cobolt blue... goofy, huh?

Lady Carol
03-24-2003, 12:23 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19424

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2016/tn_3clr.JPG

A good example of glazing. Excellent control of color. I like this one very much.

Painter Snoopy
03-24-2003, 02:01 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19436

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4697/tn_chokesonlsd.jpg

This is really fun! I love it
Steph

Lady Carol
03-25-2003, 12:03 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19825

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/11811/tn_paradise.JPG

My effort for the past two days. It was kinda fun trying to figure out what combination of glazes produced the color I was after. Good practise for me and I have to say I learnt a lot.

Lady Carol
03-25-2003, 12:04 AM
I forgot to add that this is Al22 photo from the refernce library. Thank you Al

ranunkel
03-25-2003, 02:32 AM
Hi

I will sign up to this project ! It is a nice way to learn about colours!

karenboss
03-25-2003, 11:05 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19825

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/11811/tn_paradise.JPG

Excellent, Lady Carol! I love the composition here!
Funny, I was painting a BofP yesterday too, but I love your unique composition -
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Lady Carol
03-25-2003, 11:09 AM
Thanks Karen,
I saw your B of P yesterday and thought it was brilliant.:D

pampe
03-26-2003, 05:06 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19380

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4697/tn_6.jpg

You cheated?????????


aw. man


why didn't I think of that...getting those DARKS with glazes IS tough!

nice work

pampe
03-31-2003, 01:24 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19424

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2016/tn_3clr.JPG

nice and clean

well done!

lisilk
04-01-2003, 05:08 AM
I have a watercolor- idiot question. I know about glazing in oils but since the only watercolors I've done are for our PC project.....are the watercolors mixed with other mediums ( as in oils ) or is the glazing just layers of thinned water and paint ?

I am going to have to learn to ignore the darned computer. I do not have time for another project !!! LOL.

Li

Painter Snoopy
04-01-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by lisilk
I have a watercolor- idiot question. I know about glazing in oils but since the only watercolors I've done are for our PC project.....are the watercolors mixed with other mediums ( as in oils ) or is the glazing just layers of thinned water and paint ?

I am going to have to learn to ignore the darned computer. I do not have time for another project !!! LOL.

Li

I am not a watercolor guru but I think that watercolor glazes is when you let the first layer dry thoroughly then put another layer over it letting each layer dry in between.
Steph

pampe
04-13-2003, 10:59 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19404

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/19075/tn_sunsetsm.jpg

Interesting values you obtained on this one!

Yorky
04-14-2003, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by Painter Snoopy
How do you put the animations at the bottom of your posts?
Steph

The animation is part of your signature in your Profile, and is uploaded like a picture.

I made my gif animation in Animation Pro which is part of the paintshop Pro programme. Basically this allows you to set up a frame size )I use 70x70 pixels) and then import images into frames and set up pauses and transitions between them, then save as an animated gif.

There are other programmes which allow you to do this. It is best to keep the size down and the overall file size to a minimum, (mine is 10k) as it has to be loaded by viewers everytime they look at your posting.

Doug

rapolina
04-14-2003, 05:16 AM
I sounds very interesting! I love glazing and overlapping layers of colors!
as soonas i can I'll work on my project!
thank you for the idea!

:) :) :)
ciao, rapolina.

onefinepint
04-15-2003, 11:58 PM
Hi all

I'm a newbie to WC and to watercolor painting, but this looks like a good place to start. Hopefully I can navigate my way through this project and have something to show in the near future. There are some really helpful examples in this thread and I appreciate your sharing. :) Most of all I hope I got this posting right.

Painter Snoopy
04-16-2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by onefinepint
Hi all

I'm a newbie to WC and to watercolor painting, but this looks like a good place to start. Hopefully I can navigate my way through this project and have something to show in the near future. There are some really helpful examples in this thread and I appreciate your sharing. :) Most of all I hope I got this posting right.

Welcome to WC! Glad that you are here. This is a fun project to start. Go for it.

rapolina
04-16-2003, 10:12 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19840

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4054/tn_SDhallway.jpg

WOW Pam!!!:clap: :clap:
incredible the paintiong you achieve with the 3 primary!
which one s did you use?

ciao, rapolina.

Painter Snoopy
04-16-2003, 12:22 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19840

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4054/tn_SDhallway.jpg

This is most excellent! Awesome!

pampe
04-17-2003, 09:51 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19360

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/3876/tn_skull.jpg

wow..this is really interesting, Faaf

pampe
04-17-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by rapolina
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19840

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4054/tn_SDhallway.jpg

WOW Pam!!!:clap: :clap:
incredible the paintiong you achieve with the 3 primary!
which one s did you use?

ciao, rapolina.

3 color glazes: Windsor Blue Quinacrodone Red New Gamboge If I did it over, I would choose a stronger red....

pampe
04-17-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Painter Snoopy
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19840

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/4054/tn_SDhallway.jpg

This is most excellent! Awesome!


Thank you and WELCOME to WC!

Faafil
04-18-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by pampe
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19360

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/3876/tn_skull.jpg

wow..this is really interesting, Faaf

Thanks Pam ! This was a lesson from the watercolor class I took in '01... I remember not being patient enough to wait for them to completely dry tho..:eek: There were some awesome paintings done by the others in the class with only those 3 colors...

rapolina
04-22-2003, 05:20 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=19424

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2016/tn_3clr.JPG

very nice even this one!!!

I'm working on mine, soon i'll finish it!

cioa, rapolina.

rapolina
04-30-2003, 04:06 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=21209

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/744/tn_glaze_proj.jpg

here is mine:o
I used magenta, cobalt blue and aureoline yellow w&N artists'.

ciao, rapolina.

artmom
04-30-2003, 06:01 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=21209

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/744/tn_glaze_proj.jpg

Rapolina, I like the depth of your glazes and the colors that you used! :D

Lyn

M.A.
05-04-2003, 06:45 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=20812

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/21383/tn_lemons.jpg

Wow, I really like this entry and think you have done a fantastic job on these lemons.

rapolina
05-06-2003, 08:30 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=21074

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2623/tn_tulpanliten.jpg

I like so soft a palette! whoich colors did you used?
brava!
rapolina.

rapolina
05-06-2003, 08:32 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=21075

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2623/tn_standardpalette.jpg

beautiful this too, but I prefer your delicate palette!:)

ciao, rapolina.

rapolina
05-06-2003, 08:33 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=21076

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/2623/tn_Opaquepalette.jpg

nice also this one!

you had a great idea making different type of palettes!
:clap: :clap: :clap:
ciao, rapolina.

M.A.
05-08-2003, 09:46 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=21674

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/18725/tn_glazingproject-cat.jpg

Here's my entry in this project ... light red, lemon yellow and cerulean blue.
Fun project.

Painter Snoopy
05-09-2003, 09:22 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=21674

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/18725/tn_glazingproject-cat.jpg

Ooh! I really like this one. Good job with those glazes!:clap: :clap:

rapolina
05-12-2003, 03:47 AM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=21674

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/18725/tn_glazingproject-cat.jpg


wonderful!! I love cats and this is full of cat-ness!:clap:

ciao, rapolina.

pampe
09-07-2003, 01:21 PM
There are so many new people that may want to join thisone...thought I'd bring it back up

Pam

Cathie Jones
09-07-2003, 01:29 PM
Pam - Thanks for bringing this back. Now please explain "glazing." I've only been painting a few months and haven't see that term used other than on this web site. Funny, I was just wondering where I could ask about it, and here it is. You must be a mind reader!!

Whatever it is, sounds like fun so I'll go sign up for the project.

Cathie :)

pampe
09-07-2003, 01:42 PM
Hi, Cathie...you may read this thread and look at the top under the STICKIES, or do a search for "GLAZING"

If you can't find enough...post a question here and I am sure there will be plenty of us to help you!

artmom
09-07-2003, 04:25 PM
Thanks for bringing this back up, Pam. I'm no longer officially a newbie, I reckon, but I feel like one with glazing!! LOL

Cathie Jones
09-07-2003, 08:39 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=26567

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/23460/tn_GlazeProject.jpg

Well, I read the stickies and tried glazing, and all I got was one color over another without a color change. Guess I just don't get it. I'll keep practicing, though. Can't give up on something so important.

Cathie:(

pampe
09-07-2003, 08:41 PM
Cathy....a glaze allows the transparency of the watercolor to show....but alters the color underneath

jrkreitner
03-17-2004, 01:46 PM
Hi
This is the first project signed up for. I have not had any formal training as you will soon see, however I have been studying and playing around for a few months now.
I have chosen to attempt a piece I found on a home decorators collection of art available for sale. It is I think a pastel by the artist Annemiki Bok entitled "Classic Torso II". The original can be viewed at the following link:
http://homedecorators.artselect.com/perl/frMagnify?artID=6158&matID=1059&frameID=295&t=m
I am using Arches 140lb rough. My pallette will include Aureolin Yellow (HWC), Cobalt Blue (W&N) and Rose Madder Genuine (W&N) all highly transparent watercolors as advocated by Jeanne Dobie. She has several chapters in a wonderful book Everything You Wanted To Know About Watercolor (Watson Guptill).
I was tempted to get out a watercolor pencil for some to the dark blue highlights, but decided to stay with the instructions for just three colors laid down in separate glazes.
Hopefully I will figure out how to upload the picture after I get it scanned into my home computer sometime over the weekend.
Jim

Ottersong
03-19-2004, 02:20 AM
EEK this is hard, hard, hard. It has been years since I tried anything like this.

Pampe, your painting is beautiful, it looks so easy, HA a big fat HA. I have been working on some hibiscus all evening, just look washed out, I will post tomorrow as soon as I figure out how to use the scanner and hopefully the up loader.

Mary MC

Ottersong
03-20-2004, 07:01 PM
EEEEEKKKKK what did I do wrong??? It is so big it doesn't even show up.
HELP PLEASE.! ! ! ! !

laudesan
03-20-2004, 09:21 PM
Have a look at THIS THREAD (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166978) maybe it will help..

Tell me exactly what you did..??

Ottersong
03-20-2004, 10:57 PM
JJ, what a mess, I think that I have too many pixels and dpi's so I may need to re scan. The instructions with the epson are not very clear, (think I am going to have a nervous breakdown over this) I am spending all of my time on the PC and not painting *sob* *weep*. I sure hope someone cand help.

MAry Mc

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 12:25 AM
PHEW, thank goodness I at least got the projects deleted from the site. I will re post them as soon as I figure out what I am doing wrong. I hope I didn't mess anything up. (hiding face in embarrasment) wonder if I will ever learn how? You know it is really hard to learn to do something new when you are my age. It seems like if you have had life experience with it before you are ok adding new info to the old brain, but when it is totally new info, at least for me it is really hard to learn it. I am getting a headache with this so think that I will quit for tonight.

MAry MC

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 12:27 AM
JJ I used the uploader where we are supposed to post our projects to this thread. It must be something I am doing when I save the file that makes it come out macro.

laudesan
03-21-2004, 12:30 AM
JJ I used the uploader where we are supposed to post our projects to this thread. It must be something I am doing when I save the file that makes it come out macro.

You need to go here.... http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/browse_details.php?proj_id=385 and either upload them into the progress if you haven't finished the painting, or finished works if you have..;)

Good luck........ :)

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 12:33 AM
JJ that is what I did, they came out macro so I had them deleted

laudesan
03-21-2004, 12:37 AM
JJ that is what I did, they came out macro so I had them deleted

Did you save them on your puta 500 wide by 600 high??

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 12:39 AM
yes I did on the second one, it too came out macro.

laudesan
03-21-2004, 12:45 AM
Do it again and post it and show me...

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 12:47 AM
ok, will take a minute or two or three

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 12:57 AM
JJ it says the file must be under 200k my file must be too big, I don't know what I have done wrong.

laudesan
03-21-2004, 12:58 AM
ok, will take a minute or two or three

I have to nip out for a half an hour, I will check on your progress when I come back..;)

laudesan
03-21-2004, 01:02 AM
JJ it says the file must be under 200k my file must be too big, I don't know what I have done wrong.

O.K. you need to optimize it, and the only way I know how to do that is use an image optimizer..

The one is use is www.xat.com

:)

Have a good read of the Using the Uploader thread it is all in there..

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 01:23 AM
hmmmm, that is$$$$$ what I am puzzeled about is why my scanner or pc is storing it so large. I sent it at 500x600 pixels so what happened? I did read the thread on the uploader, still no help. I have to be doing something wrong when I save the file.

laudesan
03-21-2004, 03:13 AM
O.K. I save it as it comes off the scanner, large!!!

Then I open image optimizer and open the pic I want to resize and I click on the compression button on the left 3rd down.. Then I szie it 500 wide by 600 high and then I save it adding opt to the name so I have the original size on my puta, and the reszed as well..

Then I upload the resized pic to a project or thread...

email me your pic.. [email protected]

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 12:04 PM
(((((( JJ )))))) you are a sweetie. If you will go to the computer thread you will find that I posted there too. Since I have Adobe photoshop 2.0 that came with the scanner I figured that I should have some re-sizing options in there but couldn't find them. ElGeeko (LOL ) showed me how to use them and now I am waiting on how to transport to the uploader. all of you are so helpful to us novices. Ty Ty. the problem was I was setting the pixels too high, 300 and they should have been about 72.

Mary Mc

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 01:09 PM
I MADE IT!!!!!!, happy dance, happy dance, It still isn't right but then I am learning to use the scanner, adobe and the forum. thats a LOT all at once!!! My poor brain feels fried. I have two WDE's to post also from several weeks ago, think that I will just post them on a new thread for you all to see. Maybe later when I learn to use all of this tech stuff I will post some of my previous work, I think that you might like some of it. I hope that I get time to paint the new WDE today if not I will work on it on tuesday. The sun is shining and it is warm, lol, supposed to be above 60 today, time to move the watermelon flox. A great big thank you to JJ and all who have helped me to post this pix.

Mary Mc

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 01:13 PM
I forgot to comment on the pix itself. I hate the leaves, the hibiscus came out fairly good but I got the leaves way too dark and no detail. I was more concerned with doing the glazes than with the artwork, (hangs head) I sure was a good learning lesson on glazing, thank you. Any c&c is appreciated considering the project and my lousy pix. I will do better on the post next time I hope.

Mary Mc

laudesan
03-21-2004, 07:57 PM
Where is your pic??????? ;)

Ottersong
03-21-2004, 09:22 PM
It should be with all of the rest

laudesan
03-21-2004, 10:14 PM
Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/Projects/image_viewer.php?entry_id=34891

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/lib/385/completed/37889/tn_pkhibiscus002_for_web.jpg

WOOT!! She did it!! :D

This is beautiful .. :clap:

TIP:- when scanning your pic, use the crop function on the scanner to crop the painting only then click accept.

That way you wont have all the white paper as well.. ;)

jrkreitner
03-31-2004, 09:05 AM
Hi
I am still fumbling my way around the web site. I posted my very first entry on 3-21. I have been so looking forward to some comments by the other members or at least the project originator Karenboss but have not had any comments yet. Am I doing something wrong? It can be found at the following link: http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Projects/browse_final2.php?userid=4808&proj_id=385
What a great site! Looking forward to contributing more in the future. This was my first painting with any media. Please tell me what you think. It is now framed in a gold frame with a gray mat. On the wall in my office - I am pretty happy with it.

laudesan
03-31-2004, 06:35 PM
I had a look at your work, and I remembered seeing it when you first posted it.

Question?? Did you copy another Artists work??? It reads as if you did, which is a big no-no!!

,

jrkreitner
03-31-2004, 08:05 PM
Hi all
I am enjoying this project. My second entry is the female torso to accompany the male torso, my first enrty, which is framed in gold with a gray mat hanging on my office wall. This time, now that I know how to upload an image, I submit an early sketch with a first wash. I kinda like it as is??? Next comes some blue.
Jim

laudesan
03-31-2004, 08:15 PM
Hi Jim, :) You actually attacted your painting, and I can't see it now in the reply window..

HERE (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166978) is a thread on using the uploader, and where to find it..:)

Look forward to your next step..

.

jrkreitner
04-01-2004, 08:32 AM
Hi
The reply from Laudesan asked if I copied another artists work. If the question was directed to me, the answer is yes. As I mentioned in my original post, the male and female torsos were found on a home decorating website with art for sale. The two works that I have worked on were I think pastels by the artist Annemiki Bok. The links for the originals are as follows:

For the female torso...
http://homedecorators.artselect.com/perl/frMagnify?galleryID=179866&galleryChecksum=1441353&noAdd=1&artID=6157&matID=1059&frameID=295&collectionID=223&galleryItemID=1164128&genericType=&genericID=0
For the male torso...
http://homedecorators.artselect.com/perl/frMagnify?galleryID=179866&galleryChecksum=1441353&noAdd=1&artID=6158&matID=1059&frameID=295&collectionID=223&galleryItemID=1164125&genericType=&genericID=0

I have just started painting and for me this is a learning experience. Am I doing something wrong? Certainly not my intent.

Thanks for your input.
Jim

pampe
04-01-2004, 05:44 PM
Generally speakiing, if you copy someone's COPYRIGHTED work, you may not show it publicly. It is ok to copy from a book or the web for practice but not for public viewing.

And, if you copy from someone else's work, it is ALWAYS best to state that.

This is a site for amateur AND professional artists.....copying could be a problem under those conditions....the work you copied might even have been done by one of us- :eek:

artmom
04-01-2004, 07:11 PM
Here's a link to a lot of copyright information!

Lyn

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168167

jrkreitner
04-02-2004, 08:32 AM
Thank you for your input Pampe and Artmom. I will check out the links provided by Artmom. It is not my intent to sell or exhibit as such.
Is it wrong then to post the work here as I have provided a link to the original work and given credit to the original artist?
Does it matter at all that I changed the media and my presentation from the original? Thank you all so much.
Jim

laudesan
04-02-2004, 08:39 AM
What worries me is that you have it hanging in public..

Did you sign it with your own name..?

It is not wrong to copy artwork WITH the artists permission for practice, and I think you are doing a great job with your watercolours..

I think you should have a look at the link in my signature line called Rods Lessons..

There is heaps of excellent stuff there and you ARE allowed to paint it.. :)

Don't worry we all have to start somewhere..

Have a look thru' the watercolour gallery, there is always good wips going on there too to help everyone..

.

.

jrkreitner
04-02-2004, 12:17 PM
Dear Laudesan
Thank you for your response and the great link to Rod's lessons.
I am a physician assistant and my office is private not public, only nurses and clerical come in.
I did sign the work, was that ok?
I get the impression from what I have read that as long as I am not trying to sell my work, which is not the case, and as long as I give credit to the original artist, I should not be in violating of copyright laws.
I am working on the female version and have the initial sketch and first wash already posted in the watercolor glazing area. I gave credit to the original artist with a link to the original. What do you think?
Thanks
Jim

laudesan
04-02-2004, 06:46 PM
Did you write on the one in your office that is is a copy from ....??

Did you contact the Artist and tell them you have painted it, and it is hanging in your office.

You put your signature on someones elses work, that is not o.k.

Get stuck into Rods lessons and you wont have a problem..

.

luvtopnt
05-04-2004, 11:44 AM
everyone...as a very new watercolorist...these posts about copyright laws, etc have been very informative, thanks!
Mary

pampe
05-04-2004, 02:05 PM
Mary

You can also look in the LEGAL ISSUES FORUM for more information

jrkreitner
05-04-2004, 03:36 PM
Check out my post in the Watercolor General Forum earlier today. I found some great websites with free access to photographs that can be used to paint from; just have to give credit to the site, but these are public domain photographs. A wealth of pics.
Jim :clap:

meaghanb123
05-04-2004, 05:17 PM
what is the proper ettiquette for painting from a picture in the reference gallery on this site? Is it best to contact the person to get permission to use it or because it is posted here as a "reference" is the permissions to copy implied?

Thanks!

andylavallee
05-04-2004, 07:25 PM
what is the proper ettiquette for painting from a picture in the reference gallery on this site? Is it best to contact the person to get permission to use it or because it is posted here as a "reference" is the permissions to copy implied?
yes it is implied but considered courtious to pm ,to inform the person. I pm to say thanks for the pic,I'm uploading my interpretation into ............ in a while please look

meaghanb123
05-04-2004, 07:55 PM
what is the proper ettiquette for painting from a picture in the reference gallery on this site? Is it best to contact the person to get permission to use it or because it is posted here as a "reference" is the permissions to copy implied?
yes it is implied but considered courtious to pm ,to inform the person. I pm to say thanks for the pic,I'm uploading my interpretation into ............ in a while please look

Great Andy- thanks for the info... now Ill just have to get over the fear of the person laughing when they look at my "interpretation!"