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Ditte3333
08-24-2011, 01:20 PM
I just red a book on acrylic from Bernd Klimmer,
http://www.bernd-klimmer.de/e2/e1820/index_ger.html


he is a well known painter, and he uses white wall paint as gesso and plaster as strucure medium etc.

I didn't know that is possible, and I wonder about the quality of such method, is that a problem for the long run?

ditte

NancyR
08-24-2011, 01:26 PM
In college, many of the instructors used white latex paint for gesso. It was cheaper. They felt that latex paint was latex paint. I have used latex hobby paint for several paintings, and they have held up well without fading or cracking.

Ditte3333
08-24-2011, 01:50 PM
thanks, Nancy!:wave:

old_hobbyist
08-24-2011, 02:54 PM
The purists will tell you that if you desire your work to survive millennia, you should use only extra virgin acrylic gesso in support preparation.

Bottom feeders like me use interior acrylic paint of any shade to prep the surface. But then again, bottom feeders like me use Chinese acrylics and brushes and Vietnamese canvas boards as well.

Sharrm
08-25-2011, 06:37 AM
Our University Profs, here in town, have the students using interior Acrylic paint generic brand from Wall mart, instead of gesso, and yes, the plaster for a structure medium. Some of them do use a quick layer of gloss medium or something like Golden's AGL (acrylic glazing liquid) over the plaster layer before using their regular paints. It's cheap and apparently works well. They've had no problems.
I've never used them, but I'm about to, have had it on my list for shopping this week. I'm not a purist, if my paintings make it to a 100 yrs, I'll be happy. :wink2: :D :wave:

ladypainter
08-25-2011, 09:09 AM
My hubby has used regular white wall paint/or primer too instead of gesso for years. His paintings still look great. He used to use free paint from the dump to paint his pictures with no problems. I have eye allergies to the latex so cant use it.

Einion
08-25-2011, 10:32 AM
he is a well known painter...
Just as a general thing, never take this as a recommendation for the use of a specific material or a given technique. Plenty of very good art has been made badly.

Previous threads cover this topic more than adequately:
Gesso coating or paint primer? (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170002)
Gesso vs. white paint (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337836)
painting with wall paint (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391776)
Wall paint as a ground? (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298693)

Einion

mstownsend
08-25-2011, 12:57 PM
My opinion is that this is a really bad idea. Wall paints and plasters are not intended for flexible supports such as stretched canvas. They are also much more water sensitive than an acrylic gesso. With housepaints, you often will get "acrylic co-polymer" as the binder. This term means they swap out acrylic binder for lower cost ones such as vinyls. If you are on a budget and you have to use these kinds of paints, add in at least 10% acrylic medium, or... wait and see.

Ditte3333
08-25-2011, 02:40 PM
thanks to all of you for the reply.:wave: