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aikanae
06-29-2011, 06:49 PM
I recently joined a fairly large artist's league. Many of them are fairly traditional / representational artists (which is fine). I've been to several of their art critiques now and when ever a painting comes up that strays from the representational style - the artist offering critique talks about "construction / deconstruction" as if that's the only concept permissable for abstraction.

I'm self-schooled but I came from an artistic background and I've worked in a variety of arts releated fields. I am not familar with construction / deconstruction as a solid concept. I've applied it very loosely in the past.

Can someone explain it or point me towards sources where I can at least figure out what they are talking about?

I have a problem with this leaque pulling this out of their pocket every time something different comes up for critique. But I need to understand the concept more before I'm willing to stick my neck out with my opinions. It may be something I want to play around with more too.

davefriend
06-30-2011, 01:04 AM
Big Question:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deconstruction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstructivism
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/constructivism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivism_%28art%29

PushingPixels
07-01-2011, 01:19 AM
well davefriend I would have never guessed at what these links were suggesting. To me it meant breaking down reality into basic shape and form. To deconstruct.

You have found a concept I have not discussed much. very interesting.

To construct is like assemblage art to me, taking many unrelated elements and working to bring them into a cohesive work.
hummm.

davefriend
07-01-2011, 02:11 AM
well davefriend I would have never guessed at what these links were suggesting. To me it meant breaking down reality into basic shape and form. To deconstruct.

You have found a concept I have not discussed much. very interesting.

To construct is like assemblage art to me, taking many unrelated elements and working to bring them into a cohesive work.
hummm.Barbara, the titles, construction and deconstruction, would lead me to think of all this in very simple and understandable terms, something similar to your definitions. Perhaps in the end of the discussions, these concepts may actually be just that simple.

...but the discussions and theories I referenced appear to me more like a blind man describing, with sign language, the interior passages of a wet sponge floating in jello on a hot day ...and I have not yet fully grasped the width and breadth of the intellectual discussion going on here!

aikanae
07-10-2011, 09:49 PM
There are additional references in deconstructivism to 20th-century movements: the modernism/postmodernism interplay, expressionism, cubism, minimalism and contemporary art.

Constructivism was an artistic and architectural philosophy ... was a rejection of the idea of autonomous art in favour of art as a practice for social purposes.

Is that it? I thought I'd missed something in school... In a design class I was taught to choose basic elements and refine those, then an option existed to reassemble. But it was a fluid process, not restrictive or ideological (as in type or logo design). And nothing is political ...

So I do have a problem with the way this league is using these terms so liberally and absolutley to any artworks outside of the relm of representational.

It's made me reluctant to submit anything for critique, which isn't very productive or helpful.

Thanks.

tpurnick
07-10-2011, 11:30 PM
Post some of your work please