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sherrysherman
06-11-2011, 03:40 PM
Homework for this week is to post a photo you want to paint and tell what you plan to change when you paint it. If you want, you can use a photo editing app to show the changes you plan to make.

Darlene Livingston
06-11-2011, 03:54 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/646282-IMG_2207.JPG [IMG] This was for last week but it didn't post. A sketch started last year. I see the sky hole problems. Its also flat. Any crit is appreciated.

gardenart
06-11-2011, 04:11 PM
Here is my photo of a lovely old house that has been let fall into disrepair. I bet it was a real showplace in its day.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/214425-old_house_Elizabethton.jpg

I would leave out the gutter completely and maybe give a little more roughness to the tin roof and unhinge a shutter upper left. Also would trim the vine back a little to show a window on the upper right but would leave most of the front one partially covered. Time has made it easy with the melodic lines in most places.

The main thing I would do is move the house into the country and lose the cemetery and wrought iron fence. There would be a more appropriate fence for the country, possibly as a lead in. I am thinking strong light on the front.
I wish I could have got a better shot but it was right on a street in town and I didn't feel like getting run over that day, maybe next time I go there. Any other suggestions or traps please let me know before i get started.

Thanks, Sue

Johannes Instructor
06-11-2011, 04:52 PM
Here is my photo of a lovely old house that has been let fall into disrepair. I bet it was a real showplace in its day.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/214425-old_house_Elizabethton.jpg

I would leave out the gutter completely and maybe give a little more roughness to the tin roof and unhinge a shutter upper left. Also would trim the vine back a little to show a window on the upper right but would leave most of the front one partially covered. Time has made it easy with the melodic lines in most places.

The main thing I would do is move the house into the country and lose the cemetery and wrought iron fence. There would be a more appropriate fence for the country, possibly as a lead in. I am thinking strong light on the front.
I wish I could have got a better shot but it was right on a street in town and I didn't feel like getting run over that day, maybe next time I go there. Any other suggestions or traps please let me know before i get started.

Thanks, Sue
Actually just the way it is a showcase right now. The building itself is a strong reference subject. Just add an interesing foreground and you are in business. Also add flowers to the vine. Go for it!

BumpaBob
06-11-2011, 05:01 PM
Hi Jo:
Here are two photos of a church in PA one of my ancestors helped to found back in 1800, so it is important to me. But I am not sure about how much poetic license I should employ. I do have several shots from different angles, mostly for details, but these are the most dramatic shots:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/946754-StMatthews1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/946754-StMatthews2.jpg

The first shot highlights the building more, while the 2nd one has more of the hill than I think is needed. To get more of a poetic line, on the roof and elsewhere, I might have to "mess up" the building a little. Or maybe make the scene a winter one, but that would be a lot of white....or blue and other colors. I'd like to submit another for consideration. bob.c

BumpaBob
06-11-2011, 05:19 PM
Here is another pair of photos, again from PA in my ancestral stomping ground, of the first home owned in my family, from 1810:http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/946754-JohanGeorgsHouse1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/946754-JohanGeorgsHouse2.jpg

Here I would use the angle from the first photo: keep the fence and driveway, but make it dirt, and move back the tree branch to reveal the side of the house; then take out the car and any other modern items (car, wires, fan in the window). I could put a black buggy in the driveway... The tin roof and stone front of the house can be accentuated. The stone looked like limestone, not New England granite, so it is a bit more subtle in color. There isn't much perspective angle in the photos, as I was a bit reluctant to go up to the house; rumor was that the current residents aren't too happy about all these Coleman's wandering around! These pictures provide more painting interest, I think. bob.c

Amandine
06-11-2011, 06:53 PM
Maybe, I'd go with this photo. I would have to change the color of the chimney which is almost the same as the wall against which it stands. And the roof too is grey, another color to change ... For the moment, I haven't decided which colors I would pick-up. I'd probably add some little flowers at the bottom of the left wall and move everything further back. I find that the building is too close to the viewer. (Hope you understand, I'm not sure this is good english.)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/661062-grange_beige_charette.JPG

There's another building that might be interesting. In that case, I would change the color of the tractor - same color as the barn -. And, of course, I would modify the fence. Also, as you mentioned, it's better to have the sunny side in front of the painting, not on the side, so something elso to change.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/661062-grange_rouge_tracteur.JPG

Lot of work. I'm not yet decided. :confused: Any comment is welcome and will help me.

Thanks.

P.S. : Sherry Sherman would probably suggest that I do both. :lol: :lol: :lol: (She loves to joke.) Well, maybe in 1½ year, after I retire and have more time to paint.

pixiecat
06-11-2011, 07:58 PM
Here's the building I'd like to paint. I do not have the software to "change" the picture, but I'd like to comment on it.

First, the building is simply ugly when viewed from the 3/4 angle--but it is a historic building and I'd like to maintain the character as much as possible, but make it fun, too. The medium I'll be doing this in is watercolor. Changes I'd like to make are:

1.Get rid of all the concrete at the base of the stairs. Make a sidewalk with uneven edges to it.
2. I'd take the tree on the left and make it taller to break up the strong horizontal roof lines on the porch.
3. I'd really like to change out some of the plants around the house for some taller ones, like foxglove and taller bushes that are flowering to break up the strong horizontals of the porch. But I don't want to make this the focal point.
4. I'd really like to make the focal point the front door. I will make the door a dark color like muted red.
5. I would change the shadows for a different time of day, when the sunlight was directly overhead. I am going to take this picture, and make a black and white photocopy of it to help with the darkest darks and lightest lights. On the bay window (particularly on the second floor), I would like to leave it white, and omit the edge for the trim directly under the second story bay windows. I's also like to fade out the bottom of the second story window so you can't see the bottom edges of the windows (lost edges). And on the railings, I'd like to make them pure white to play up the contrast with the front door.
6. I am thinking about making the sky a light purple instead of blue.

Any comments you have are greatly appreciated. Thank you.

painterted
06-11-2011, 09:17 PM
Wow, some great subjects here to paint.

Anyone else have problems with the vidio of Johannes painting today? My mac was like it was hooked up to the old phone line... rreeeellllyyy slow. Pidifull .

ted

Tarlo
06-11-2011, 09:53 PM
Thanks Johannes for another great lesson and all your help.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/927792-resized.jpg
As well as the suggested above, there would be less foreground.
The building is a replicia of an old miners hut in sunny Queensland, Australia

Judy:wave:

painterted
06-11-2011, 10:34 PM
I have never painted a subject like this but this is what I plan on doing as of now.

Remove that round piece of cement on the right in the foreground. Either put in a water fountain or a flower garden.
Open the right door.
Add flowers to the plant to the right of the door.
Remove the pink wall and deck, and install a nice oak type tree.
Remove that bush on the left.
Use cobble stones in the drive way.
Rotate the building to get more of a 3/4 view.

This is going to be fun, can't wait to get started. Thanks for all the nuggets today Johannes.

Oh, and put a satellite dish on the roof. :evil:

ted

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/909312-prop_643_1.jpg

valh
06-12-2011, 12:38 AM
This photo taken somewhere in central Alberta. Changes I would make are:

-move the house to the left taking it off centre
-move the house back into the trees, create more foreground
-create a lead in
-add perhaps 2 more layers of trees behind the house
-exaggerate the opening 'tween the evergreen trees on the right side
-create melodic lines on the roof lines
-lighten the shadows under the porch roof

Anything else?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/40174-h:w_week2.JPG

marionh
06-12-2011, 08:24 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/42113-078_800x600.JPG
St Paul, Alpes Maritime France

I would leave things pretty much as they are but
- I would add some sunshine and shadows
- Make the fountain a little more melodic and change the colour as a contrast to the house wall
- Go back and take another photo to include more of the upper storey of the house.

jillmc3
06-12-2011, 01:37 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/153055-Fredericksburg.jpg

Thanks, Johannes, for another great class! I have learned so much from you, and I really appreciate your willingness to share your "golden nuggets!" I also really appreciate the time you put in to critiquing our work and providing feedback.

It was hard to choose a building for this homework, I see so many possibilities now! Before this class I would not have selected this photo as a reference, but now I think maybe it would make a nice painting and memory of an anniversary trip. For this picture of a B&B cottage in Fredericksburg, Texas, I would:

1. move the structure back into the painting off-center to allow for a melodic lead-in path and some landscape planes on the sides, and rotate it to show a bit more of the side.
2. Remove the second building
3. gradient planes on the roof and sides, sag the roof a little bit
4. add flowers in front of the porch, and up the right side a little
5. represent some of the stones on the front, more on the right side, gradate the color value darker on the right
6. remove most of the shadow on the front, and move it to the side - add reflected colors on the front and side, remove almost all the slats on the side
7. remove the gutter and make the roof edge more melodic, broken
8. I think I would keep the windmill and the rocking chairs, because they remind me of Fredericksburg.
8. show a few of the tin roof ribs, more on the right, add some colors and rust

marionh
06-12-2011, 01:44 PM
I've just been looking at the pic again, and have decided that I would move the fountain to give more breating space.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/42113-test.jpg

pamshowcase
06-12-2011, 04:39 PM
Another Mill in Virginiahttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/174457-mill_Buildings_wk_2_homework.jpg

I will:
Set it back and off center
Shadow the right side
Vary the colors of siding
Interupt the roofline
Invent forground
Un-pave the road
Add trees to background
Suggest the stone end
Maybe sky???
Thanks Pam

robertsloan2
06-12-2011, 05:05 PM
I've chosen one of the June Western & Southwestern Challenge paintings for my homework painting. Here's the original reference, by mtnrunner:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/70184-June-2011-W-SW-Challenge-5-Mountains-house-trees-mtnrunner.jpg

The first thing I noticed was the slant of the ground. I'm pretty sure the house was not built perpendicular to the slant of a hillside, so I used the Rotate tool on GIMP to straighten that out and flatten the plateau. Alternately I could've kept the hill and just rotated the house to flatten it, but didn't feel like trying for something that subtle in photo manipulation.

Then I cropped it, getting rid of that honking big pine in the foreground and flipped it horizontally so that the path leading into the painting would "read" left to right. I minimized the area the mountains took up in the picture. The buildings are my focal area, so I'm reducing emphasis on everything else.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/70184-June-2011-W-SW-Challenge-5-Mountains-house-trees-mtnrunner-cropped.jpg

I haven't picked up and moved the bushes around to create a visual path to the building yet, but those bushes and snow patches seem to have lots of possibilities. Once I do my value mass sketch I'll be able to start unifying those and work out a good path. I'm just going to make up a good rambling Z-path across the foreground rather than try to change that in the photo - the photo's there mainly to tell me what those bushes look like rather than where they go, ditto snow patches.

I'm also going to play with the colors of the building. It's an ugly drab dark gray-brown that I know could be improved by the color treatments you showed in class, Johannes - that's some of what attracted me to this. How far can I get from this photo and how beautiful can I make this ratty old building become in a painting? That's my challenge. There's a lot I can see to do with it that the colors in the photo just don't show.

I'm rememebering similar buildings I've seen in life and there's always a lot of real color variation and reflections from everything in the environment into the shadows. Heck, I could change the season to spring and toss wildflowers into that meadow in the foreground if I want a more colorful scene.

I'll see where it goes after the value mass thumbnails. From this the weather, time of day and season are all up to my later decision.

Another possibility is to turn this into a nocturne and make it very peaceful and atmospheric in cool blues and violets with warm light in those dark windows to draw the eye. That's something to fool around with in thumbnails.

Jerry Bridgers
06-12-2011, 08:30 PM
My building photo is an ex-jail in Orangeburg, SC ... never saw a
stained glass window in a jail. Built, as a jail, circa 1855 ad

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/74643-0_-_Copy.JPG

A rough correction is:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/74643-Finished_-_Copy.jpg

My list of corrections by number would be:
1. Crop
2. soften distant building parts
3. soften no fly items
4. remove or diminish background buildings
5. extend lawn over parking lot
6. gradate lawn from parking lot to front
7. replace road/sidewalk with path
8. change bushes from clone/round shapes
9. push tree limbs over windows and change values to reduce cloning effect of windows
10. "melodize" window/door lines and roof lines
11. add reflected colors, textures and stains to walls
12. lighten value of some shadows

Good classes!!!!

Jerry Bridgers

Deb Leger
06-12-2011, 10:08 PM
The original reference shot by pencilpete is a cottage on a quay on the east coast of Scotland. (I love Scotland!)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/11775-cottage_on_quay,_east_coast_scotland_resized.jpg

Here's my photoshopped version with a few additional changes below that I'd make:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/11775-cottage_resized.jpg

I removed the pipes on the front of the building and front roof because I found them too distracting. I cropped close to the back edge of the building to try and remove the look of that triangular room. (I"m sure that no matter how I tried, it just wouldn't look natural if I tried to paint it.) I removed all the extraneous homes and made this one solitary. I added flowers to the windows as if there were window boxes and put lots of them along the shadow side, ground area.

In a painting, I would:
- position the cottage to the right side of the painting with a larger area for the "front yard" section, thought it'd probably be in stone, not grass.
- really expand those flowers under the front small window to slow down the visual path of base of the cottage.
- put loads of reflected colours in the shadow wall so it wouldn't look so bare. (I too tired right now to figure out how to do it in photoshop.)
- I'm torn between keeping the building this traditional white (and making it white bricks) or making it those beautiful warm bricks of your painting yesterday, Joe.
- I made the roof kind of saggy but would emphasize it more, as well as the eves section of the roof that I also made kind of messy.
- I'd fix those green areas to look more like trees, with at least three planes of softness / colours / diminishing size and maybe have a tree cut into the straight line of the far side of the house. Though, it'd be a melodic line by then.
- make the road section into bricks rather than pavement.
- I don't like the lead-in section and think it'd look much better as an S but .......how? With a much larger area in front in the painting, I think it'd be much easier to use that brick wall in an S shape lead-in perhaps.
- whether I chose the white stones or the warm coloured bricks of your own painting from the video, I'm make those straight wall lines into melodic lines rather than the very straight lines they are now.
- make the windows wobbly like your's yesterday.
- darken the shadow side of the house to keep the sunlight crisp but doing it using a gradient plane.

It was a great class yesterday. No matter how often I listen to any of your classes, talks, or lectures, I always, always pick up so much from you. Thanks, Joe!

artyman
06-12-2011, 11:27 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/227975-DSCF6613_700.JPG


Below is a quick sketch of how I would probably modify it to.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/227975-Image0746_adj.JPG

Colorix
06-13-2011, 08:45 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/117343-Farm_Original.jpg

Walked past this one many times, thought it just boring... I'd do something like this with it:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/117343-Farm_small.jpg

That is,
- move things closer, like trees/bushes
- get rid of the growth that looks like it is on the roof instead of behind
- create more planes in the bg
- place the posts in an s-curve
- turn the house slightly to the left, to show more 3/4


This one may be too 'pretty' with the flowers:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/117343-Flower_cottage_original.jpg

Suggestion for changes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/117343-Flower_cottage.jpg

- Turn the house (have other ref for the roof)
- put something in the near flowerbed, which now is weeds, so it gets more melodic.
- Maybe take out the middle flowery bush, or move it

sylvia
06-13-2011, 02:19 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/265-cottages.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/265-cottages.jpg

I have decided on this photo and will attempt to make the following changes:

rough up the roof edges
gradate the roofs
crop the picture to rshorten the foeeground pavement
use reflections of the people to give the appearance of a wet pavement
fade out windows and flowers as they recede.
then see where that takes me.

i don't know why I have a double image..

Phyllis

MrsBeth
06-13-2011, 03:44 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/30777-SNOW_CABIN_1.jpg

Make 2 side windows different in size to each other, add layers to foliage to create depth, experiment with colors - purples and yellows in sky and reflections, more blue and purple in shadows; and have no straight lines or equal spacing

RainySea
06-13-2011, 04:35 PM
Here is my homework. The first is a photo that I took on my trip from CA to PA in October. But the color of the barn is drab and I loved the example that Johannes gave of that lovely brick house he'd painted being originally a rather boring brown shingle one. So my thought was to change the barn to a warm red barn (I tried to emulate in photoshop what I mean to give an idea but I'm not an expert with that program so it changed some of the tree too, but I think it gives the idea). I am not sure if this pict is 3/4 enough. I've not tried to paint buildings ever before.

Anyway. . . here it is the original and the photo-shopped.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/132279-barn2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/132279-barn-changed.jpg

Mary54
06-13-2011, 07:19 PM
I would make the following changes.

1. Possibly change the roof & make it a gable roof.
2. Remove the 2 windows on the end and make one smaller one.
3. Remove the fence and rearrange some of the plants on the porch so that it looks inviting.
5. Change the door so that it's more fitting of an older house.

judithj
06-13-2011, 08:30 PM
Thanks for such a great lesson - it took me a while to really go 'house wild' so to speak - had to spend some time in a little hamlet close to home called 'Whitevale' taking photographs - I've never really been one to add houses to paintings so I have very few photo reference. I've always wanted a little home with a porch and a dormer window and gingerbread trim...

I think I may make the finish that red brickwork instead of the gray siding...

OK here is a plan - wanted house 'a' in yard 'b' have to put the front of house 'a' in sun and side in shade - effectively reverse it... I also am planning a big flower bed in front brimming with orange flowers - cause I really like orange... and a few iris too - orange ones...

If I ever get a home like this I will call it 'Frank's Delight' just cause Frankenstein would have such a great time here drinking a cold one with BBQ...Where he comes after the 'wild years' ... :)


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MrsBeth
06-13-2011, 10:23 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/30777-house_1.jpg

make house smaller and move off center, make sure to layer foliage to add depth, make a indication of an S shaped path to steps, change color of sky with varigation, don't paint in the broken board over the window.
I want the chair and door to be the focal point, so I wil need to soften and tone down the outer sides of the house.
Of course, no straight, parallel or equally spaced lines

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:18 AM
Hi Jo:
Here are two photos of a church in PA one of my ancestors helped to found back in 1800, so it is important to me. But I am not sure about how much poetic license I should employ. I do have several shots from different angles, mostly for details, but these are the most dramatic shots:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/946754-StMatthews1.jpg

The first shot highlights the building more, while the 2nd one has more of the hill than I think is needed. To get more of a poetic line, on the roof and elsewhere, I might have to "mess up" the building a little. Or maybe make the scene a winter one, but that would be a lot of white....or blue and other colors. I'd like to submit another for consideration. bob.c
That is the problem with paintings that contain buildings. If you paint them per commission or they will be publicly displayed in your area and people recognize that building if you make changes it may cause a negative reaction. I rarely do commissions with buildings do buildings whose appearance must be repected. I look for buildings which I can distort and change colors.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:20 AM
Thanks for such a great lesson - it took me a while to really go 'house wild' so to speak - had to spend some time in a little hamlet close to home called 'Whitevale' taking photographs - I've never really been one to add houses to paintings so I have very few photo reference. I've always wanted a little home with a porch and a dormer window and gingerbread trim...

I think I may make the finish that red brickwork instead of the gray siding...

OK here is a plan - wanted house 'a' in yard 'b' have to put the front of house 'a' in sun and side in shade - effectively reverse it... I also am planning a big flower bed in front brimming with orange flowers - cause I really like orange... and a few iris too - orange ones...

If I ever get a home like this I will call it 'Frank's Delight' just cause Frankenstein would have such a great time here drinking a cold one with BBQ...Where he comes after the 'wild years' ... :)


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The top picture has a road that lead right out of the picture. I try to avoid that. When you hve that much green you'd better implement a lot of violets. Also flowers and homes go well together. You can add all these to the front part.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:22 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/30777-house_1.jpg

make house smaller and move off center, make sure to layer foliage to add depth, make a indication of an S shaped path to steps, change color of sky with varigation, don't paint in the broken board over the window.
I want the chair and door to be the focal point, so I wil need to soften and tone down the outer sides of the house.
Of course, no straight, parallel or equally spaced lines
Yeas this would work. Remember you don't have to borrow the surrounding area. You can dig out another photo with a more interesting lead, find another photo with a more appealing background and combine all these resources.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:23 AM
I would make the following changes.

1. Possibly change the roof & make it a gable roof.
2. Remove the 2 windows on the end and make one smaller one.
3. Remove the fence and rearrange some of the plants on the porch so that it looks inviting.
5. Change the door so that it's more fitting of an older house.
This is a nice photo. If you do paint this reflect all the surrounding colors in the shadows.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:26 AM
Here is another pair of photos, again from PA in my ancestral stomping ground, of the first home owned in my family, from 1810:http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/946754-JohanGeorgsHouse1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/946754-JohanGeorgsHouse2.jpg

Here I would use the angle from the first photo: keep the fence and driveway, but make it dirt, and move back the tree branch to reveal the side of the house; then take out the car and any other modern items (car, wires, fan in the window). I could put a black buggy in the driveway... The tin roof and stone front of the house can be accentuated. The stone looked like limestone, not New England granite, so it is a bit more subtle in color. There isn't much perspective angle in the photos, as I was a bit reluctant to go up to the house; rumor was that the current residents aren't too happy about all these Coleman's wandering around! These pictures provide more painting interest, I think. bob.c
If don't show two sides to a building it will look like it was cut out and pasted on. By showing two sides we perceive the 3D aspect.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:29 AM
Maybe, I'd go with this photo. I would have to change the color of the chimney which is almost the same as the wall against which it stands. And the roof too is grey, another color to change ... For the moment, I haven't decided which colors I would pick-up. I'd probably add some little flowers at the bottom of the left wall and move everything further back. I find that the building is too close to the viewer. (Hope you understand, I'm not sure this is good english.)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/661062-grange_beige_charette.JPG
There's another building that might be interesting. In that case, I would change the color of the tractor - same color as the barn -. And, of course, I would modify the fence. Also, as you mentioned, it's better to have the sunny side in front of the painting, not on the side, so something elso to change.


Lot of work. I'm not yet decided. :confused: Any comment is welcome and will help me.

Thanks.

P.S. : Sherry Sherman would probably suggest that I do both. :lol: :lol: :lol: (She loves to joke.) Well, maybe in 1½ year, after I retire and have more time to paint.
The four wheeler wil be cumbersom painted at face value because the wheels will looked cloned. I would have some wild grass over a wheel or so. How about exploiting the flat part of that to put flower pots on?

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:30 AM
Here's the building I'd like to paint. I do not have the software to "change" the picture, but I'd like to comment on it.

First, the building is simply ugly when viewed from the 3/4 angle--but it is a historic building and I'd like to maintain the character as much as possible, but make it fun, too. The medium I'll be doing this in is watercolor. Changes I'd like to make are:

1.Get rid of all the concrete at the base of the stairs. Make a sidewalk with uneven edges to it.
2. I'd take the tree on the left and make it taller to break up the strong horizontal roof lines on the porch.
3. I'd really like to change out some of the plants around the house for some taller ones, like foxglove and taller bushes that are flowering to break up the strong horizontals of the porch. But I don't want to make this the focal point.
4. I'd really like to make the focal point the front door. I will make the door a dark color like muted red.
5. I would change the shadows for a different time of day, when the sunlight was directly overhead. I am going to take this picture, and make a black and white photocopy of it to help with the darkest darks and lightest lights. On the bay window (particularly on the second floor), I would like to leave it white, and omit the edge for the trim directly under the second story bay windows. I's also like to fade out the bottom of the second story window so you can't see the bottom edges of the windows (lost edges). And on the railings, I'd like to make them pure white to play up the contrast with the front door.
6. I am thinking about making the sky a light purple instead of blue.

Any comments you have are greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Good angles boring wall colors

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:32 AM
Thanks Johannes for another great lesson and all your help.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/927792-resized.jpg
As well as the suggested above, there would be less foreground.
The building is a replicia of an old miners hut in sunny Queensland, Australia

Judy:wave:
I tend to make the walls and the roof quite different from each other.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:34 AM
I have never painted a subject like this but this is what I plan on doing as of now.

Remove that round piece of cement on the right in the foreground. Either put in a water fountain or a flower garden.
Open the right door.
Add flowers to the plant to the right of the door.
Remove the pink wall and deck, and install a nice oak type tree.
Remove that bush on the left.
Use cobble stones in the drive way.
Rotate the building to get more of a 3/4 view.

This is going to be fun, can't wait to get started. Thanks for all the nuggets today Johannes.

Oh, and put a satellite dish on the roof. :evil:

ted

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/909312-prop_643_1.jpg
This photo is a good reference. In would get rid of that orange flat wall top right and open the door to let the viewers walk in.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:35 AM
This photo taken somewhere in central Alberta. Changes I would make are:

-move the house to the left taking it off centre
-move the house back into the trees, create more foreground
-create a lead in
-add perhaps 2 more layers of trees behind the house
-exaggerate the opening 'tween the evergreen trees on the right side
-create melodic lines on the roof lines
-lighten the shadows under the porch roof

Anything else?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/40174-h:w_week2.JPG
For me this reference is too simple showing too much of the roof. personally I would fine references with more things around and connect to the building.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:37 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/42113-078_800x600.JPG
St Paul, Alpes Maritime France

I would leave things pretty much as they are but
- I would add some sunshine and shadows
- Make the fountain a little more melodic and change the colour as a contrast to the house wall
- Go back and take another photo to include more of the upper storey of the house.
Excellent photo. Crop off the right side so we don't have that unnecessary area to avoid the eye from getting trapped in there. I would open a door a bit to invite people in.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:39 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/153055-Fredericksburg.jpg

Thanks, Johannes, for another great class! I have learned so much from you, and I really appreciate your willingness to share your "golden nuggets!" I also really appreciate the time you put in to critiquing our work and providing feedback.

It was hard to choose a building for this homework, I see so many possibilities now! Before this class I would not have selected this photo as a reference, but now I think maybe it would make a nice painting and memory of an anniversary trip. For this picture of a B&B cottage in Fredericksburg, Texas, I would:

1. move the structure back into the painting off-center to allow for a melodic lead-in path and some landscape planes on the sides, and rotate it to show a bit more of the side.
2. Remove the second building
3. gradient planes on the roof and sides, sag the roof a little bit
4. add flowers in front of the porch, and up the right side a little
5. represent some of the stones on the front, more on the right side, gradate the color value darker on the right
6. remove most of the shadow on the front, and move it to the side - add reflected colors on the front and side, remove almost all the slats on the side
7. remove the gutter and make the roof edge more melodic, broken
8. I think I would keep the windmill and the rocking chairs, because they remind me of Fredericksburg.
8. show a few of the tin roof ribs, more on the right, add some colors and rust
The symmetrical square that is formed by the wooden frame would be a problem. By hanging some flower pots on in that area would excite the negative space.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:40 AM
Another Mill in Virginiahttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/174457-mill_Buildings_wk_2_homework.jpg

I will:
Set it back and off center
Shadow the right side
Vary the colors of siding
Interupt the roofline
Invent forground
Un-pave the road
Add trees to background
Suggest the stone end
Maybe sky???
Thanks Pam
I like mills because they have extra goodies that are not just boring walls. I would take it out of context thought and put it somewhere else. The surrounding areas are not contributing.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:42 AM
I've chosen one of the June Western & Southwestern Challenge paintings for my homework painting. Here's the original reference, by mtnrunner:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/70184-June-2011-W-SW-Challenge-5-Mountains-house-trees-mtnrunner.jpg

The first thing I noticed was the slant of the ground. I'm pretty sure the house was not built perpendicular to the slant of a hillside, so I used the Rotate tool on GIMP to straighten that out and flatten the plateau. Alternately I could've kept the hill and just rotated the house to flatten it, but didn't feel like trying for something that subtle in photo manipulation.

Then I cropped it, getting rid of that honking big pine in the foreground and flipped it horizontally so that the path leading into the painting would "read" left to right. I minimized the area the mountains took up in the picture. The buildings are my focal area, so I'm reducing emphasis on everything else.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/70184-June-2011-W-SW-Challenge-5-Mountains-house-trees-mtnrunner-cropped.jpg

I haven't picked up and moved the bushes around to create a visual path to the building yet, but those bushes and snow patches seem to have lots of possibilities. Once I do my value mass sketch I'll be able to start unifying those and work out a good path. I'm just going to make up a good rambling Z-path across the foreground rather than try to change that in the photo - the photo's there mainly to tell me what those bushes look like rather than where they go, ditto snow patches.

I'm also going to play with the colors of the building. It's an ugly drab dark gray-brown that I know could be improved by the color treatments you showed in class, Johannes - that's some of what attracted me to this. How far can I get from this photo and how beautiful can I make this ratty old building become in a painting? That's my challenge. There's a lot I can see to do with it that the colors in the photo just don't show.

I'm rememebering similar buildings I've seen in life and there's always a lot of real color variation and reflections from everything in the environment into the shadows. Heck, I could change the season to spring and toss wildflowers into that meadow in the foreground if I want a more colorful scene.

I'll see where it goes after the value mass thumbnails. From this the weather, time of day and season are all up to my later decision.

Another possibility is to turn this into a nocturne and make it very peaceful and atmospheric in cool blues and violets with warm light in those dark windows to draw the eye. That's something to fool around with in thumbnails.
Deb in this case I would not crop off the mountain. I would reorganize the dry bushes into an "S" pattern so the viewer connects the dots to the focal point. Definitely chnage the wall colors so they don't compete with the background.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:43 AM
My building photo is an ex-jail in Orangeburg, SC ... never saw a
stained glass window in a jail. Built, as a jail, circa 1855 ad

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/74643-0_-_Copy.JPG

A rough correction is:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/74643-Finished_-_Copy.jpg

My list of corrections by number would be:
1. Crop
2. soften distant building parts
3. soften no fly items
4. remove or diminish background buildings
5. extend lawn over parking lot
6. gradate lawn from parking lot to front
7. replace road/sidewalk with path
8. change bushes from clone/round shapes
9. push tree limbs over windows and change values to reduce cloning effect of windows
10. "melodize" window/door lines and roof lines
11. add reflected colors, textures and stains to walls
12. lighten value of some shadows

Good classes!!!!

Jerry Bridgers
For me it has too many squares.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:45 AM
The original reference shot by pencilpete is a cottage on a quay on the east coast of Scotland. (I love Scotland!)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/11775-cottage_on_quay,_east_coast_scotland_resized.jpg

Here's my photoshopped version with a few additional changes below that I'd make:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/11775-cottage_resized.jpg

I removed the pipes on the front of the building and front roof because I found them too distracting. I cropped close to the back edge of the building to try and remove the look of that triangular room. (I"m sure that no matter how I tried, it just wouldn't look natural if I tried to paint it.) I removed all the extraneous homes and made this one solitary. I added flowers to the windows as if there were window boxes and put lots of them along the shadow side, ground area.

In a painting, I would:
- position the cottage to the right side of the painting with a larger area for the "front yard" section, thought it'd probably be in stone, not grass.
- really expand those flowers under the front small window to slow down the visual path of base of the cottage.
- put loads of reflected colours in the shadow wall so it wouldn't look so bare. (I too tired right now to figure out how to do it in photoshop.)
- I'm torn between keeping the building this traditional white (and making it white bricks) or making it those beautiful warm bricks of your painting yesterday, Joe.
- I made the roof kind of saggy but would emphasize it more, as well as the eves section of the roof that I also made kind of messy.
- I'd fix those green areas to look more like trees, with at least three planes of softness / colours / diminishing size and maybe have a tree cut into the straight line of the far side of the house. Though, it'd be a melodic line by then.
- make the road section into bricks rather than pavement.
- I don't like the lead-in section and think it'd look much better as an S but .......how? With a much larger area in front in the painting, I think it'd be much easier to use that brick wall in an S shape lead-in perhaps.
- whether I chose the white stones or the warm coloured bricks of your own painting from the video, I'm make those straight wall lines into melodic lines rather than the very straight lines they are now.
- make the windows wobbly like your's yesterday.
- darken the shadow side of the house to keep the sunlight crisp but doing it using a gradient plane.

It was a great class yesterday. No matter how often I listen to any of your classes, talks, or lectures, I always, always pick up so much from you. Thanks, Joe!
Yes good crop. Rule of thumb, don't have two visual paths going different ways.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:47 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/227975-DSCF6613_700.JPG


Below is a quick sketch of how I would probably modify it to.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jun-2011/227975-Image0746_adj.JPG
Good you rotated it to show a 3/4 viewe. It is important to make sure that the line that divides the two planes does not run right thru the middle.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:48 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/117343-Farm_Original.jpg

Walked past this one many times, thought it just boring... I'd do something like this with it:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/117343-Farm_small.jpg

That is,
- move things closer, like trees/bushes
- get rid of the growth that looks like it is on the roof instead of behind
- create more planes in the bg
- place the posts in an s-curve
- turn the house slightly to the left, to show more 3/4


This one may be too 'pretty' with the flowers:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/117343-Flower_cottage_original.jpg

Suggestion for changes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/117343-Flower_cottage.jpg

- Turn the house (have other ref for the roof)
- put something in the near flowerbed, which now is weeds, so it gets more melodic.
- Maybe take out the middle flowery bush, or move it
Good thinking but still stop that driveway from taking us away. Therefore I would leave that tree on the left as a visual stop. Also show more of the wall. I feel it is still being blocked too much.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:50 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/265-cottages.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/265-cottages.jpg

I have decided on this photo and will attempt to make the following changes:

rough up the roof edges
gradate the roofs
crop the picture to rshorten the foeeground pavement
use reflections of the people to give the appearance of a wet pavement
fade out windows and flowers as they recede.
then see where that takes me.

i don't know why I have a double image..

Phyllis
This photo will work but I have a policy of changing two sides of the street. therefore I would not make white walls on both sides.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:53 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/30777-SNOW_CABIN_1.jpg

Make 2 side windows different in size to each other, add layers to foliage to create depth, experiment with colors - purples and yellows in sky and reflections, more blue and purple in shadows; and have no straight lines or equal spacing
The water line will lead us right out. How about cropping all the water out or take this building and merge it into another setting. I would look for a picture that has a stream that will lead to the cabin. The water line lack a melodic movement. It is too straight visually speaking.

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 08:58 AM
Here is my homework. The first is a photo that I took on my trip from CA to PA in October. But the color of the barn is drab and I loved the example that Johannes gave of that lovely brick house he'd painted being originally a rather boring brown shingle one. So my thought was to change the barn to a warm red barn (I tried to emulate in photoshop what I mean to give an idea but I'm not an expert with that program so it changed some of the tree too, but I think it gives the idea). I am not sure if this pict is 3/4 enough. I've not tried to paint buildings ever before.

Anyway. . . here it is the original and the photo-shopped.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/132279-barn2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Jun-2011/132279-barn-changed.jpg
I would add protrusions to slow down the lines on the roof and I would add "special effects" to make the whole scene hold the viewer longer. Maybe rusted farm equipment, fence posts, an old rusted abandoned tractor, maybe a wind mill at the back. As is even if well painted well would not hold the viewers attention long enough.

RainySea
06-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Thanks, Johannes. So to make it more interesting and vary the roof. Since barns don't have chimneys, how about a silo. . . and maybe some horses in front like this? Does that help? Would it help if the sky was more interesting or cloudy maybe?

I've hardly done landscapes of any sort, with buildings or not, so I am very new to this!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/132279-barnhorses.jpg

Johannes Instructor
06-14-2011, 02:40 PM
Thanks, Johannes. So to make it more interesting and vary the roof. Since barns don't have chimneys, how about a silo. . . and maybe some horses in front like this? Does that help? Would it help if the sky was more interesting or cloudy maybe?

I've hardly done landscapes of any sort, with buildings or not, so I am very new to this!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/132279-barnhorses.jpg
I would move those horses closer to the bard. When you animlas in the forground it sort've removes the incentinve to enter the painting. Besides they can overlap the barn to show distance. Very rarely professional artists place animals in the foreground.

beart
06-14-2011, 03:10 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/88528-coffee_4_008.jpg This is a old house in town. As we paint for art show in the town we usually try to get something about the history. I know I would take out the truck. take out the parking lot and maybe have a few women in place of the truck dressed maybe in the 1920's and have a dirt or cinders on the street. Not put in every line for boards on the house. not all shingles and not make the lines straight and maybe broken thick and thin lines. I missed the second class as the art show in town was the same day and graduation of my grandson. But as soon as the second video is out I probably will know more on what to do to the house.

HazelP
06-14-2011, 03:43 PM
Here is my homework for lesson 2 buildings.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/915542-Huthnance-farm-Breage-origi.jpg

I would make the following alterations -

Add more foreground.
Add more roofline to barn.
Open barn door showing light inside, a ladder, farm implements, etc.
Hay showing at top barn window.
Rambling rose on side of barn.
More cottage garden flowers around house and to left of painting.
Less stonework showing on buildings.
Put main focus on house not barn.
Melodic lines on roofs.
Do away with TV aerials.
Smoke coming from chimney.
Make gate to field rickety.
Increase height of trees and make better shape.
Increase saturation.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/915542-Huthnance-farm-for-painting.jpg

My photoshoping isn't the best but you may get the general idea from this. I haven't melodic lined the edges in this sample but would do so when painting and also darken the sides of the buildings.

Valleygarden
06-14-2011, 07:47 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/933712-P3120170.JPG I've been wanting to paint this old building - I like how decrepit it looks. I think I would offset the dead tree to the side, but then I may loose the shadows which add something to the image. Your thoughts, Johannes?

Nahant
06-14-2011, 09:37 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/38406-Family_Album_110.jpg[/IMG]

This old slide depicts a favorite former home in NH. I would like the focal point to be include the side porch and a lilac tree to the right of the porch, with its deep purple blooms set against the white background of the house & barn.

I would crop the top and create more foreground with a meandering dirt path,
remove the old Ford Falcon wagon (it was a clunker), and partially close the barn (garage) door, letting some light play into the barn. I would do some redesigning of the right foreground tree and get the trunk into the no-fly zone or remove it.

Nahant
06-14-2011, 09:40 PM
Sorry...here's the image.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/38406-Family_Album_110.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/38406-Family_Album_110.jpg[/IMG]

This old slide depicts a favorite former home in NH. I would like the focal point to be include the side porch and a lilac tree to the right of the porch, with its deep purple blooms set against the white background of the house & barn.

I would crop the top and create more foreground with a meandering dirt path,
remove the old Ford Falcon wagon (it was a clunker), and partially close the barn (garage) door, letting some light play into the barn. I would do some redesigning of the left foreground tree and get the trunk into the no-fly zone or remove it.

To create a 3-D effect, I would include the front plane of the house and the side plane of the barn. The side of the house would be in direct sunlight light, and I would shadow the front of the barn.

Thanks,

Betty

arp8nter
06-14-2011, 09:56 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/79422-20110204_0045small.JPGhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/79422-DSC01265small.JPG
I want to use the view of the winter scene with the greens of the summer shot. I might change the angle to show a little more of the side with the chimney. Bushes and/or flowers are needed around the house and possibly some hanging baskets on the porch. I would set it back from the road further, add layers of background, change the sun angle to come from the front left, and make a winding dirt drive as a lead in. Gradient sides and roof should be added also.
I haven't seen the video yet, but Robert had great notes. Thanks, Robert!

Obion
06-15-2011, 01:49 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/42526-Art_to_paint.jpg

:wave: Move house back and give a drive way entrance, maybe with a fence – add snow up against walls –The veranda already has a slope will add snow, fade and dip the roof s line a little, in more rustic colours or maybe make it summer look with greener tree’s fade out top window more and remove half of one window thats cloning, or add a planter box in front or see what happens as I go.

nougat
06-15-2011, 03:31 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/15364-torri_mamo_hw.JPG

i know that this building is straight on, but a3/4 view actually makes the shape more boxy whilst like this you can see the sloping sides.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 08:56 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/88528-coffee_4_008.jpg This is a old house in town. As we paint for art show in the town we usually try to get something about the history. I know I would take out the truck. take out the parking lot and maybe have a few women in place of the truck dressed maybe in the 1920's and have a dirt or cinders on the street. Not put in every line for boards on the house. not all shingles and not make the lines straight and maybe broken thick and thin lines. I missed the second class as the art show in town was the same day and graduation of my grandson. But as soon as the second video is out I probably will know more on what to do to the house.
I feel the two sides of the house are competing for attention. I tend to make one side of my buildings more predominant.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 08:57 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/42526-Art_to_paint.jpg

:wave: Move house back and give a drive way entrance, maybe with a fence – add snow up against walls –The veranda already has a slope will add snow, fade and dip the roof s line a little, in more rustic colours or maybe make it summer look with greener tree’s fade out top window more and remove half of one window thats cloning, or add a planter box in front or see what happens as I go.
I would redraw this to show more of the right side so we get the 3D box effect. I would create a pillowy graceful up and down line where the ground level is to avoid the rectangle in the snow.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 09:41 AM
Here is my homework for lesson 2 buildings.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/915542-Huthnance-farm-Breage-origi.jpg

I would make the following alterations -

Add more foreground.
Add more roofline to barn.
Open barn door showing light inside, a ladder, farm implements, etc.
Hay showing at top barn window.
Rambling rose on side of barn.
More cottage garden flowers around house and to left of painting.
Less stonework showing on buildings.
Put main focus on house not barn.
Melodic lines on roofs.
Do away with TV aerials.
Smoke coming from chimney.
Make gate to field rickety.
Increase height of trees and make better shape.
Increase saturation.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/915542-Huthnance-farm-for-painting.jpg

My photoshoping isn't the best but you may get the general idea from this. I haven't melodic lined the edges in this sample but would do so when painting and also darken the sides of the buildings.
Yes this will work as long as you show a predominant light from the street side.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 09:43 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/79422-20110204_0045small.JPGhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/79422-DSC01265small.JPG
I want to use the view of the winter scene with the greens of the summer shot. I might change the angle to show a little more of the side with the chimney. Bushes and/or flowers are needed around the house and possibly some hanging baskets on the porch. I would set it back from the road further, add layers of background, change the sun angle to come from the front left, and make a winding dirt drive as a lead in. Gradient sides and roof should be added also.
I haven't seen the video yet, but Robert had great notes. Thanks, Robert!
Watch out for those shadows. If you can have the aim towards the house by changing the direction of the sun all the better. Also if the sun comes from the left front you will get the front facade in light which is what you would want.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 09:45 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/933712-P3120170.JPG I've been wanting to paint this old building - I like how decrepit it looks. I think I would offset the dead tree to the side, but then I may loose the shadows which add something to the image. Your thoughts, Johannes?
Yes, correct whenever you block the focal point, you send a meesage to the viewer that that area is not important. The degree of blockage determines how much you want to minimize the importance of a focal point.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 09:48 AM
Sorry...here's the image.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jun-2011/38406-Family_Album_110.jpg

To create a 3-D effect, I would include the front plane of the house and the side plane of the barn. The side of the house would be in direct sunlight light, and I would shadow the front of the barn.

Thanks,

Betty
We need to do some pruniung here. Take into account that white walls will give a lot of light in a painting but the setback is they lack color which creates silence in a painting. I tend to chnage some of this to stonewalls, stucco wth color, or barn wood. You could do this with one the buildings.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 09:50 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/15364-torri_mamo_hw.JPG

i know that this building is straight on, but a3/4 view actually makes the shape more boxy whilst like this you can see the sloping sides.
As long as you can get the light to hit the front. Also there are cloned trees. I would remove one.

firesignart
06-15-2011, 10:53 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/97017-house-editNCook.jpg

I will blur the outer edges and foreground. I have added some light to make a bit of a path to the front door, only defining some of the cedar siding and suggesting the rest with gradation of color. I will focus around the front door and add plants and color also put umbrellas on the deck...using other photos of the same view a bit later in the year. Should I crop the foreground more? It makes it more intimate but loses the space.
I will use violet in the shadows and gold in the highlights
Thankshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/97017-b-and-b-1NCook.jpg

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 12:36 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/97017-house-editNCook.jpg

I will blur the outer edges and foreground. I have added some light to make a bit of a path to the front door, only defining some of the cedar siding and suggesting the rest with gradation of color. I will focus around the front door and add plants and color also put umbrellas on the deck...using other photos of the same view a bit later in the year. Should I crop the foreground more? It makes it more intimate but loses the space.
I will use violet in the shadows and gold in the highlights
Thankshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/97017-b-and-b-1NCook.jpg
This is a good photo but I would really downplay the horizontal linear movements in the logs by just barely suggesting them.

judithj
06-15-2011, 01:09 PM
The top picture has a road that lead right out of the picture. I try to avoid that. When you hve that much green you'd better implement a lot of violets. Also flowers and homes go well together. You can add all these to the front part.

Thanks for your thoughts on this project. I am looking forward to starting, but will wait till Saturday.

Kindest Regards, Judith

nougat
06-15-2011, 01:30 PM
As long as you can get the light to hit the front. Also there are cloned trees. I would remove one.

thanks. so get rid of one palm tree altogether? not make it into a different tree/bush?

LadyMadonna
06-15-2011, 01:34 PM
This a closed mine shaft in my town ..many local artists have painted this headframe. I like the autumn season because it brings more colour to the painting but I would prune the treeline and maybe make a pathway of sorts so that the viewer could get a better a look at this old trademark. I would design this building with more crooked lines and emphasis the shadow contrast for drama. I would not darken any of the windows so that it is not a distraction . I might add some water to the foreground as it is situated on a lake although the photo does not show ..I could use several photos to make a painting and use the best parts of each.

HazelP
06-15-2011, 02:10 PM
The early settlers in the New Zealand bush didn't have it easy! This photo has been handed down through my family and I would love to have a go at painting it.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/915542-Warner-bush-home.jpg

I would take away the heap of whatever from the front of the picture.
Make more melodic lines and sag the tent a little more.
Give the main 'building' a bit more of a side view.
Add depth to the background bush.
Need a lesson on painting horses Jo before putting it in.
I wondered about the large dead tree in front of the tent - does it need moving over, maybe between the 2 buildings.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/915542-Warner-bush-home_copy.jpg

nougat
06-15-2011, 03:19 PM
i'm really enjoying seeing all your amazing interesting photos :)

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 09:11 PM
This a closed mine shaft in my town ..many local artists have painted this headframe. I like the autumn season because it brings more colour to the painting but I would prune the treeline and maybe make a pathway of sorts so that the viewer could get a better a look at this old trademark. I would design this building with more crooked lines and emphasis the shadow contrast for drama. I would not darken any of the windows so that it is not a distraction . I might add some water to the foreground as it is situated on a lake although the photo does not show ..I could use several photos to make a painting and use the best parts of each.
The second photo is better but I would stick a tree in front of that straight diagonal line.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 09:13 PM
thanks. so get rid of one palm tree altogether? not make it into a different tree/bush?
Even if you add a bush visually it would still take on a clone. Also you want to keep two sides of the painting different.

Johannes Instructor
06-15-2011, 09:13 PM
The early settlers in the New Zealand bush didn't have it easy! This photo has been handed down through my family and I would love to have a go at painting it.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/915542-Warner-bush-home.jpg

I would take away the heap of whatever from the front of the picture.
Make more melodic lines and sag the tent a little more.
Give the main 'building' a bit more of a side view.
Add depth to the background bush.
Need a lesson on painting horses Jo before putting it in.
I wondered about the large dead tree in front of the tent - does it need moving over, maybe between the 2 buildings.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/915542-Warner-bush-home_copy.jpg
I agree working from a black and white photo so you add your own colors to it.

valh
06-15-2011, 09:35 PM
For me this reference is too simple showing too much of the roof. personally I would fine references with more things around and connect to the building.


Johannes
Here is another photo that is not as simple as that in post #37, these are some of my changes:

-swing the left most building to show 2 sides, creating some distance 'tween it and the next building.
-create some space 'tween the 2 buildings on the right side and lower and move to right, the rightmost building
-all the buildings should be smaller and further back in the picture making room for more foreground and a lead in
-add hills/mountains and trees behind the buildings to create more planes

I started to do some of the above using GIMP but am so frustrated with it I could scream.......:eek: - I will do a sketch soonest.
Hope this picture will serve......

Cheers
Val

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/40174-IMG_6126.JPG

nougat
06-15-2011, 11:47 PM
ok thank you.

Johannes Instructor
06-16-2011, 07:26 AM
Johannes
Here is another photo that is not as simple as that in post #37, these are some of my changes:

-swing the left most building to show 2 sides, creating some distance 'tween it and the next building.
-create some space 'tween the 2 buildings on the right side and lower and move to right, the rightmost building
-all the buildings should be smaller and further back in the picture making room for more foreground and a lead in
-add hills/mountains and trees behind the buildings to create more planes

I started to do some of the above using GIMP but am so frustrated with it I could scream.......:eek: - I will do a sketch soonest.
Hope this picture will serve......

Cheers
Val

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jun-2011/40174-IMG_6126.JPG
The problem in this case is all the buildings line up equally. I recommend we use photos with buildings placed in different positions where the roof lines run in different directions.

spirothet
06-16-2011, 08:46 AM
I selected this photo from WC. I would zoom out to get more sky in and change the location of the fence. I would also eliminate what is happening in the foreground or perhaps change it to look more like a rock border again angling it so as the rock border and fence draw you to the barn. I was not able to participate in last Saturday's webinar and am waiting for the streaming video to catch up. Thank you. Cali

ecobb
06-16-2011, 11:15 AM
Thinking of painting this one. Lighten up the barn to make it more readable with a lively color. Might add a tractor just for fun.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2011/91975-Taylor_Ranch_064.JPG
Sort of like this one too. might try trees, skyline, with mountain in the background to give the painting more depth and detail.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2011/91975-Refugio_VX_002.jpg

Johannes Instructor
06-16-2011, 12:00 PM
I selected this photo from WC. I would zoom out to get more sky in and change the location of the fence. I would also eliminate what is happening in the foreground or perhaps change it to look more like a rock border again angling it so as the rock border and fence draw you to the barn. I was not able to participate in last Saturday's webinar and am waiting for the streaming video to catch up. Thank you. Cali
I avoid buildings that show this much of a roof.

Johannes Instructor
06-16-2011, 12:01 PM
Thinking of painting this one. Lighten up the barn to make it more readable with a lively color. Might add a tractor just for fun.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2011/91975-Taylor_Ranch_064.JPG
Sort of like this one too. might try trees, skyline, with mountain in the background to give the painting more depth and detail.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2011/91975-Refugio_VX_002.jpg
If you add tree behind the building you will be able to create another plane.

Lynn 592
06-16-2011, 01:03 PM
Here's my photo and what I'd change:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2011/124860-IMG_1513.jpg

1. Move the church’s bell tower over to the right to break up the long roof line.
2. Move the tall mountain in the back to the left bit.
3. Take out most of the rocks in the foreground, but leave the lead-in.
4. Take out the truck.
5. Add some flowering desert vegetation and pick up their colors (and the mountain colors) in the buildings.
6. Edit the buildings on the left. Either take them out or change them.

Lynn

Sandra39
06-16-2011, 01:59 PM
Hi Johannes;
I like this place which I got the photo from the Reference Image Library (RIL) at WC posted by Coller . I really want to paint the well in front of the building but you said if we put anything in front of the focal point, it means the focal point is not important. So would it work if I put it on (our) left side a little away from the building?
Since this is a public domain building, I could bring in the 3/4 side from another photo to add to the well in the first photo. One problem remaining is I don't know how to deal with negative spaces between the curving doors on the facade of the building so they won't look like clones which they actually are (architectural clones). Will you please help?
Sandi C.

Johannes Instructor
06-16-2011, 02:36 PM
Here's my photo and what I'd change:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2011/124860-IMG_1513.jpg

1. Move the church’s bell tower over to the right to break up the long roof line.
2. Move the tall mountain in the back to the left bit.
3. Take out most of the rocks in the foreground, but leave the lead-in.
4. Take out the truck.
5. Add some flowering desert vegetation and pick up their colors (and the mountain colors) in the buildings.
6. Edit the buildings on the left. Either take them out or change them.

Lynn
Now this is a great reference photo with good angles. I would look for another photo with a better terrain setting though to integrate into this scene

Susan Peltonen
06-17-2011, 02:29 AM
This is an old structure along Highway 12 in Eastern Washington. If I were to paint it I would make the following changes:

Set the structure a little further back into the picture plane (and off center) and add more foreground.

Take the highway out and add a dirt road or pathway leading into the open door.

Take out the telephone poles.

Perhaps add some trees or bushes to off set the hard edges of the structure, and add more layers to the background.

Simplify the wooden siding by not depicting every single board.

Add more color variation in both the sunlit and shadow areas of the siding, and more gradation in the roof area.

Soften the furthermost edges of the building.

Break up the strong diagonal line of the roof on the left, maybe with a tree partially in front of it, or some kind of protrusion such as a smoke stack.

Suggestions welcome.
Thanks, Susan
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/153022-DSC05773.JPG

lonelm
06-17-2011, 08:11 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/212898-barn.jpg

A picture I took while on holiday in Quebec. I stitched it together from about 5 separate photos because it was close to the roadway and near a curve. Difficult to get a good photo. My thoughts to develop a painting:

Place my barn better for focal point
Develop lead in and improve foreground with flowers/pathway/shadows or fenceposts
Remove the long back part of the barn leaving just the front cluster
Move the piece of farm equipment from right to overlap at front
Develop more background depth with trees
Add some interest to the sky
gradate colour and values on barn boards
love the delicious feel of the tin roof and the fact that the windows are not cloned
Open a large door and show items/debris inside
I like the overlapping tree in front but would improve the shape

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 08:48 AM
Hi Johannes;
I like this place which I got the photo from the Reference Image Library (RIL) at WC posted by Coller . I really want to paint the well in front of the building but you said if we put anything in front of the focal point, it means the focal point is not important. So would it work if I put it on (our) left side a little away from the building?
Since this is a public domain building, I could bring in the 3/4 side from another photo to add to the well in the first photo. One problem remaining is I don't know how to deal with negative spaces between the curving doors on the facade of the building so they won't look like clones which they actually are (architectural clones). Will you please help?
Sandi C.
The first picture on the left seems to work better because you have plants in front of it to neutralize the repitions of the arches. I have had to face this problem quite a few times with my Mexican paintings. What I have done is paint a bouganvillea ovehanging and invading one of the negative spaces of the arch. I also place terracota flower pots or cactus plants at the bottom. I commend you for your thinking. Can you placed the HTML page of the first color photo so I can have a better zoom in?

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 09:11 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/212898-barn.jpg

A picture I took while on holiday in Quebec. I stitched it together from about 5 separate photos because it was close to the roadway and near a curve. Difficult to get a good photo. My thoughts to develop a painting:

Place my barn better for focal point
Develop lead in and improve foreground with flowers/pathway/shadows or fenceposts
Remove the long back part of the barn leaving just the front cluster
Move the piece of farm equipment from right to overlap at front
Develop more background depth with trees
Add some interest to the sky
gradate colour and values on barn boards
love the delicious feel of the tin roof and the fact that the windows are not cloned
Open a large door and show items/debris inside
I like the overlapping tree in front but would improve the shape
The idea of a compilation of using several photos is the correct approach to this. I agree that the far roof needs to be removed. Your barn structure has a lot of nice angles which is something I always look for. I try to avoid the one barn one roof look. Be careful with skies. If we have just a few square inches it is better just to keep them simple. In general you have good observations above.

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 09:11 AM
This is an old structure along Highway 12 in Eastern Washington. If I were to paint it I would make the following changes:

Set the structure a little further back into the picture plane (and off center) and add more foreground.

Take the highway out and add a dirt road or pathway leading into the open door.

Take out the telephone poles.

Perhaps add some trees or bushes to off set the hard edges of the structure, and add more layers to the background.

Simplify the wooden siding by not depicting every single board.

Add more color variation in both the sunlit and shadow areas of the siding, and more gradation in the roof area.

Soften the furthermost edges of the building.

Break up the strong diagonal line of the roof on the left, maybe with a tree partially in front of it, or some kind of protrusion such as a smoke stack.

Suggestions welcome.
Thanks, Susan
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/153022-DSC05773.JPG
This has good angles. It will work if you take it out of context. I agree with you about the visual diagonal. I would protrude the top part more to offset this.

Sandra39
06-17-2011, 09:25 AM
Dear Johannes:
Thanks so much for your suggestion. What I love best in this photo is the flower garden. Your suggestion of carrying flowers over to the arches will add to the beauty of the painting.
Here's the link: (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../RefLib/search.php?searchid=367544)http://www.wetcanvas.com/RefLib/search.php?searchid=367544 (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../RefLib/search.php?searchid=367544)

Sandi C.

BTW, I am planning to make a dirt path in an S shape from the front of the painting leading the eyes to the building. The garden will be on both sides of the path.

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 09:35 AM
Here's my photo and what I'd change:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jun-2011/124860-IMG_1513.jpg

1. Move the church’s bell tower over to the right to break up the long roof line.
2. Move the tall mountain in the back to the left bit.
3. Take out most of the rocks in the foreground, but leave the lead-in.
4. Take out the truck.
5. Add some flowering desert vegetation and pick up their colors (and the mountain colors) in the buildings.
6. Edit the buildings on the left. Either take them out or change them.

Lynn
That whole photo has good angles but I would use another photo for the terrain part. Maybe a small creek or something more entertaing than dust and stones.

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 09:38 AM
Dear Johannes:
Thanks so much for your suggestion. What I love best in this photo is the flower garden. Your suggestion of carrying flowers over to the arches will add to the beauty of the painting.
Here's the link: http://www.wetcanvas.com/RefLib/search.php?searchid=367544 (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../RefLib/search.php?searchid=367544)

Sandi C.

BTW, I am planning to make a dirt path in an S shape from the front of the painting leading the eyes to the building. The garden will be on both sides of the path.
This is a gorgeous photo

T13 St Jean
06-17-2011, 10:26 AM
This photo is my cousin's backyard. We are best friends and I am in the process of painting this scene with the Interactive acrylics by Chroma. Already from listening to lessons 1 and 2 I know I have to make some major adjustments to my painting.

First of all I know not to paint all the shingles on both the gazebo, house and just a few boards on the bridge. I tend to try and copy the photo. That is not working out for me. I want to have a more ''painterly'' look to this. There are not enough lost edges going into the background.

Any and all critiques are most welcome. I hope to finish this painting soon as I want to offer it as a gift to my cousin for her birthday in August.

Therese

Jean50
06-17-2011, 11:42 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/120021-393_edited-2.jpg Thank you for your classes. How helpful. I will try and post my photo. I took this photo because I was interested in the light from the lamp in the window. I first thought of just painting a close up of that, but have notice that most of your houses are not close to the foreground. I thought I would try and make that window the center of interest. The front door is in shadow so it would be hard to use that, But, If I made the sun light low enough to shine on the bottom part of the door it could be part of the center of interest as well as the window. I would put the tree on the right closer to the house and use it a branch from it to break up the straight line of the roof. I would take out the cooler in the window. Take out the background house on the right side. I would put flowers and in fornt of the house. I am not real sure of myself. I need your help.

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 11:51 AM
This photo is my cousin's backyard. We are best friends and I am in the process of painting this scene with the Interactive acrylics by Chroma. Already from listening to lessons 1 and 2 I know I have to make some major adjustments to my painting.

First of all I know not to paint all the shingles on both the gazebo, house and just a few boards on the bridge. I tend to try and copy the photo. That is not working out for me. I want to have a more ''painterly'' look to this. There are not enough lost edges going into the background.

Any and all critiques are most welcome. I hope to finish this painting soon as I want to offer it as a gift to my cousin for her birthday in August.

ThereseI would take out the yellow table. It is too discordant.

Noula
06-17-2011, 02:33 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/243521-BlueDoor335.JPG
Yay! class tomorrow. Took this photo about two hours ago. It's been cloudy today and the sun was setting. To paint this scene, I would remove the new house in the mountain area and the whole street view in the left....here I'd add some trees with more planes(negative painting). Get rid of the long pole. Lower the pile of roof tiles and move slightly to right to overlap the corner of wooden shack. There will be a full view of door (open). Make a visual path to door and left window. Crop foreground. Abstract shapes of trees and foliage in the left. Make melodic lines of straight walls. I'm stuck with the value plan! The sky....mid light, mountains....mid dark, foreground and house.....mid value. If I keep the walls white (reflected light and sky light added) would this still be a mid value or a a mid light.
Thanks Johannes for sharing.

Athena

bamonite
06-17-2011, 05:24 PM
This is 2 pics. from Germany taken from the boat with the castle and houses on the lower plain. These pics were taken some 30 years ago, so their seems to be not too much color in them but at the time the grass was a lush green and so on. The pics. do not do the place justice.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/910892-Germany_2.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/910892-Germany,_river_and_house_and_castle..jpg

NorthCarolinaStudent
06-17-2011, 06:14 PM
A Cary, NC farm. I would thin the thick upper branch in front, as well as the two trunks. I would remove the people, maybe a lot of the junk, the flag, the building across the road (or whatever that blue is), maybe put in some vegatation there. I'd make something more jagged out of the porch railing and put in a path from the lower mid-left (between the two trees) toward the house. Also, Id move everything right a lilttle bit.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/774972-webcaryfarm.jpg

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 06:21 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/120021-393_edited-2.jpg Thank you for your classes. How helpful. I will try and post my photo. I took this photo because I was interested in the light from the lamp in the window. I first thought of just painting a close up of that, but have notice that most of your houses are not close to the foreground. I thought I would try and make that window the center of interest. The front door is in shadow so it would be hard to use that, But, If I made the sun light low enough to shine on the bottom part of the door it could be part of the center of interest as well as the window. I would put the tree on the right closer to the house and use it a branch from it to break up the straight line of the roof. I would take out the cooler in the window. Take out the background house on the right side. I would put flowers and in fornt of the house. I am not real sure of myself. I need your help.
This would work if you take the squares out at the top.

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 06:24 PM
A Cary, NC farm. I would thin the thick upper branch in front, as well as the two trunks. I would remove the people, maybe a lot of the junk, the flag, the building across the road (or whatever that blue is), maybe put in some vegatation there. I'd make something more jagged out of the porch railing and put in a path from the lower mid-left (between the two trees) toward the house. Also, Id move everything right a lilttle bit.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/774972-webcaryfarm.jpg
Nice angles but crop the gap off at the right and change the light source to hit the building at the front.

Artamorada
06-17-2011, 06:38 PM
The Moorings cottage, Islamorada, Florida, USA

Lighten up the whole scene, with early morning sun shining on longer axis of cottage
Angle it about ¾, creating windows on the darker side as needed
Some shading of walls by the porch roof, but there is reflected light from the front yard sand
Make front yard of sand, with a winding path through it, S-shaped, from left to right
Is that a TREE growing out of the front steps?
Kill it…..pardon me, please remove it and plant it carefully somewhere else where it is needed.
Remove center “papa” tree over to “clump” with the mama and twins twigs, still straight so as not to compete with the graceful sway of the mama, and the rebellious kink of one of the twins
Keep the deliciously diagonal tree on the right, maybe making it a palm tree with fronds overhanging the roof line
Too many straight lines, too many squares, slow down the eye and…create melodic lines with:
-Palm fronds overhanging top of roof, keep the line of leaves on the left
-Hanging baskets intersecting the porch columns and railings
-Bushes in front of porch floor, with just a hint of lattice showing through
-Slightly bowed French doors with not each mullion identified.
-Mounding of sand in front of bushes in front of porch for improved melodic line
See through some panes to lights inside to invite the viewer in…some kind of surprising view
Gradient planes of walls with warm wall and streaks of violet
Watch the cloning of similar shapes
Create shadows of trees fall across the house……….YUMMMM nice negative spaces
Tree gaps to see the sky through, diffuse edges in the distance, hard edges front of bushes, several planes of trees into background

Dailey Grainger, Islamorada Reflections

Lynn 592
06-17-2011, 06:57 PM
That whole photo has good angles but I would use another photo for the terrain part. Maybe a small creek or something more entertaing than dust and stones.

:wave: Thanks!

Lynn

MrsBeth
06-17-2011, 09:07 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/30777-SNOW_CABIN_2.jpg

would this composition work? I really like the pond and pier and would like to keep them in the picture. I played around with a stream but didn't like anything I sketched

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 09:27 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/30777-SNOW_CABIN_2.jpg

would this composition work? I really like the pond and pier and would like to keep them in the picture. I played around with a stream but didn't like anything I sketched
It will if you redesign the pond. Also move the tree so it doesn't line up with
the middle of the roof.

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 09:30 PM
The Moorings cottage, Islamorada, Florida, USA

Lighten up the whole scene, with early morning sun shining on longer axis of cottage
Angle it about ¾, creating windows on the darker side as needed
Some shading of walls by the porch roof, but there is reflected light from the front yard sand
Make front yard of sand, with a winding path through it, S-shaped, from left to right
Is that a TREE growing out of the front steps?
Kill it…..pardon me, please remove it and plant it carefully somewhere else where it is needed.
Remove center “papa” tree over to “clump” with the mama and twins twigs, still straight so as not to compete with the graceful sway of the mama, and the rebellious kink of one of the twins
Keep the deliciously diagonal tree on the right, maybe making it a palm tree with fronds overhanging the roof line
Too many straight lines, too many squares, slow down the eye and…create melodic lines with:
-Palm fronds overhanging top of roof, keep the line of leaves on the left
-Hanging baskets intersecting the porch columns and railings
-Bushes in front of porch floor, with just a hint of lattice showing through
-Slightly bowed French doors with not each mullion identified.
-Mounding of sand in front of bushes in front of porch for improved melodic line
See through some panes to lights inside to invite the viewer in…some kind of surprising view
Gradient planes of walls with warm wall and streaks of violet
Watch the cloning of similar shapes
Create shadows of trees fall across the house……….YUMMMM nice negative spaces
Tree gaps to see the sky through, diffuse edges in the distance, hard edges front of bushes, several planes of trees into background

Dailey Grainger, Islamorada Reflections

I would not paint this. The long list you typed is the index of how much editing you would have to do. When it comes to using reference photos the idea is to do few changes not restructure the whole reference.
From my personal standpoint, there are so many photo references out there I would not settle for the simple.

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 09:34 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/243521-BlueDoor335.JPG
Yay! class tomorrow. Took this photo about two hours ago. It's been cloudy today and the sun was setting. To paint this scene, I would remove the new house in the mountain area and the whole street view in the left....here I'd add some trees with more planes(negative painting). Get rid of the long pole. Lower the pile of roof tiles and move slightly to right to overlap the corner of wooden shack. There will be a full view of door (open). Make a visual path to door and left window. Crop foreground. Abstract shapes of trees and foliage in the left. Make melodic lines of straight walls. I'm stuck with the value plan! The sky....mid light, mountains....mid dark, foreground and house.....mid value. If I keep the walls white (reflected light and sky light added) would this still be a mid value or a a mid light.
Thanks Johannes for sharing.

Athena
Yes interesting reference but the foreground which is the common problem with most photos would need to be totally over hauled.

Johannes Instructor
06-17-2011, 09:39 PM
This is 2 pics. from Germany taken from the boat with the castle and houses on the lower plain. These pics were taken some 30 years ago, so their seems to be not too much color in them but at the time the grass was a lush green and so on. The pics. do not do the place justice.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/910892-Germany_2.jpg


When it comes to showing town scenes in the far distance the best way is to only insinuate and leave any detail out.

Obion
06-17-2011, 11:17 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/42526-ART_Te_Anau_NZ.jpg
1) Move house back on property
2) add pathway onto photo
3) Trees in back on right side and ground
4) add rustic colour
5) remove one chimneys
6)Lighten up the sky
7) maybe a fence line...
Then see where we go from that

l look forward to these classes, have learnt so much. I look back on some of my painting in the past and go OMG :o Blacks and dark greens..:wave:

sapphirelynn
06-18-2011, 02:23 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/122205-100_1408.JPG
First I would change the road so it creates a lead in between the Rhodos from the front instead of the side.
I would make sure that the trees behind the house have soft edges
I would make the chimney bigger
I also think I would play up the deck a little more and right now the roses on it are just about to bloom, so I'd paint them in
It helps that the shakes are old and need to be replaced, I'll just make them look even more weathered
on the glass there is grapes growing and a little later on they cover a good portion of that window and part of the roof, I'll have to wait till later to get a picture of that as it will help break up those strait lines
I do have another picture from a different angle that has a natural lead in also the dormer in front shows taller than the main roof breaking it up better It is also a 3/4 view but the apple tree covers the side so am not to sure about that, the file is too big to upload . Perhaps I could retake this picture from a lower angle getting the dormer to cut into the main roof.
This whole project has shown me that it is not that easy to get a good picture to paint. I tried morning and evening shots for lighting effects, tried to get it from different angles for lead in's as well as 3/4 view and in the end I ended up with a lot of shots and I will probably have to combine more than I photo to get the painting. Being an A Frame it is a lot of roof and probably not the best subject. I shall be awaiting your comments and advice....hugs Lynn

Eagle-eye
06-18-2011, 05:41 AM
Third attempt to get my Homework Week 2 up. Don't know where the other two went. This is the original pictures. I could only try to sketch what I would do to paint it.
I would make it a rusty tin roof, leave out some of the building and trees, add a cat lying on the lawn and some flowers. Trying to keep it simple. Dee
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/190227-Lesson_2_Homework-Sketch-800.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/190227-Lesson_2_Homework-Original-800.jpg

elisamaria
06-18-2011, 08:02 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/735472-P1040362.JPG

I would cut the old reed and some brunches of the bush in front of this old boathouse to show more of the doors and the little rowing boat on the shore.
Looking very much forward to the new lesson today.
Elisabeth

Johannes Instructor
06-18-2011, 09:05 AM
This photo taken somewhere in central Alberta. Changes I would make are:

-move the house to the left taking it off centre
-move the house back into the trees, create more foreground
-create a lead in
-add perhaps 2 more layers of trees behind the house
-exaggerate the opening 'tween the evergreen trees on the right side
-create melodic lines on the roof lines
-lighten the shadows under the porch roof

Anything else?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Jun-2011/40174-h:w_week2.JPG
For me this subject is too simple. It would like trying to write a book from a weak plot. There are so many barn pictures in flickr.com or webshots.com that I would look for a better story.

Johannes Instructor
06-18-2011, 09:06 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jun-2011/42526-ART_Te_Anau_NZ.jpg
1) Move house back on property
2) add pathway onto photo
3) Trees in back on right side and ground
4) add rustic colour
5) remove one chimneys
6)Lighten up the sky
7) maybe a fence line...
Then see where we go from that

l look forward to these classes, have learnt so much. I look back on some of my painting in the past and go OMG :o Blacks and dark greens..:wave:
I am not crazy about the white walls.

Johannes Instructor
06-18-2011, 09:08 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/122205-100_1408.JPG
First I would change the road so it creates a lead in between the Rhodos from the front instead of the side.
I would make sure that the trees behind the house have soft edges
I would make the chimney bigger
I also think I would play up the deck a little more and right now the roses on it are just about to bloom, so I'd paint them in
It helps that the shakes are old and need to be replaced, I'll just make them look even more weathered
on the glass there is grapes growing and a little later on they cover a good portion of that window and part of the roof, I'll have to wait till later to get a picture of that as it will help break up those strait lines
I do have another picture from a different angle that has a natural lead in also the dormer in front shows taller than the main roof breaking it up better It is also a 3/4 view but the apple tree covers the side so am not to sure about that, the file is too big to upload . Perhaps I could retake this picture from a lower angle getting the dormer to cut into the main roof.
This whole project has shown me that it is not that easy to get a good picture to paint. I tried morning and evening shots for lighting effects, tried to get it from different angles for lead in's as well as 3/4 view and in the end I ended up with a lot of shots and I will probably have to combine more than I photo to get the painting. Being an A Frame it is a lot of roof and probably not the best subject. I shall be awaiting your comments and advice....hugs Lynn
These kind of cottages make good subjects. Ask Thomas Kinkade. I would like to see more of the structure in the painting.

Johannes Instructor
06-18-2011, 09:09 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/735472-P1040362.JPG

I would cut the old reed and some brunches of the bush in front of this old boathouse to show more of the doors and the little rowing boat on the shore.
Looking very much forward to the new lesson today.
Elisabeth
Right even add a boat! And defintely show mre of the boathouse.

Johannes Instructor
06-18-2011, 09:10 AM
Third attempt to get my Homework Week 2 up. Don't know where the other two went. This is the original pictures. I could only try to sketch what I would do to paint it.
I would make it a rusty tin roof, leave out some of the building and trees, add a cat lying on the lawn and some flowers. Trying to keep it simple. Dee
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/190227-Lesson_2_Homework-Sketch-800.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/190227-Lesson_2_Homework-Original-800.jpg
What would concern me about this subject is that it show equal sides of the house. I like to show a predominant side.

crazywoman53
06-18-2011, 11:42 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jun-2011/137465-building-homework-II.jpg

Better late then never. I would eliminate the power pole, the truck and the car port; change the road to a lead in or possible elimenate it all together and use the plants as a lead in. Add another flowering bush where the car port is. (Or am I mirroring there again?) Add more layers in the back ground. Do away with the fence. Move the end chimney to the top of the roof line. Change the color of the roofs to add more interest and add more color in the shadows etc to get rid of the stark white. I have wanted to paint this for a couple of years now, but was too intimidated by it. I ran across this home while out driving the back roads.

Alta Imp
06-18-2011, 12:29 PM
Make the highway field and not put in any fence posts in the front.
Move the barn a bit to the left and set it further back
Create a lead in to the barn using a rutted curvy trail
Take the leaning shed and pole out of the picture
Move the wagon forward to create more depth
Create another plane in the background with the trees and make melodic
Put some light cracks in the dark openings
Emphasize the fall scene with orange yellow hues for the trees, red roof for the barn and gradient white for the boards, picking up surrounding hues.

Sallyabc
06-19-2011, 10:37 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Jun-2011/599812-100_100_street_Peace_River_800x.jpg
What I would change if I redid this would be to make the lamp post in front shorter. All of my lines are parallel to the sides I would change that by making them not so straight, windows are too perfect. The part tree and fire hydrant would go, less lamp posts.

Johannes Instructor
06-20-2011, 07:49 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Jun-2011/599812-100_100_street_Peace_River_800x.jpg
What I would change if I redid this would be to make the lamp post in front shorter. All of my lines are parallel to the sides I would change that by making them not so straight, windows are too perfect. The part tree and fire hydrant would go, less lamp posts.
Remember the gradient planes

hewill4giveu
08-24-2011, 11:05 PM
Hi Joe, Sorry i have missed my Mountains class i tried to get in this week but i was an hour late. Went to my sons and he was not home for me to watch it. I notice you now have the buildings for download at 39.99. Are they giving those who have already taken the coarse a discount so we are not paying for it twice? Thanks Teresa

Nahant
11-18-2011, 03:09 PM
We need to do some pruniung here. Take into account that white walls will give a lot of light in a painting but the setback is they lack color which creates silence in a painting. I tend to chnage some of this to stonewalls, stucco wth color, or barn wood. You could do this with one the buildings.

Johannes,

The above was posted on page 4 of this thread, #64, on 6/15/11. I'm sorry I'm so far behind but am trying to get caught up with my homework :rolleyes: !

Sooo... picking up where I left off with buildings...I read and understand your suggestions and am afraid that silence (white) prevails since I opted for realism. The buildings in this New England village scene don't ring true in any other color. I see in the photo that the perspective is off on the far right and will fix it. What else do you suggest?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Nov-2011/38406-Francestown.DSC000091_480x260Francestown_Parsonage.oil

Johannes Instructor
11-18-2011, 08:00 PM
Remember the gradient planes
Without doubt I would make the horizontal plane lighter than the vertical plane. It would be very rare that both planes get the same light and end up being the same value.

Johannes Instructor
11-18-2011, 08:03 PM
Johannes,

The above was posted on page 4 of this thread, #64, on 6/15/11. I'm sorry I'm so far behind but am trying to get caught up with my homework :rolleyes: !

Sooo... picking up where I left off with buildings...I read and understand your suggestions and am afraid that silence (white) prevails since I opted for realism. The buildings in this New England village scene don't ring true in any other color. I see in the photo that the perspective is off on the far right and will fix it. What else do you suggest?

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Nov-2011/38406-Francestown.DSC000091_480x260Francestown_Parsonage.oil
I like your subject choice but I would not have the tree starting from the corner. Also going by the photo I do not see the greens reflected into the buildings shadows. All surrounding colors would reflect into shadows of white buildings in an obvious way.

Nahant
11-22-2011, 11:05 AM
I like your subject choice but I would not have the tree starting from the corner. Also going by the photo I do not see the greens reflected into the buildings shadows. All surrounding colors would reflect into shadows of white buildings in an obvious way.

Thanks for the tips, Jo. Green in the shadows is a nice improvement. As for the tree...do you suggest starting the trunk further from the bottom or did you have something else in mind?

Johannes Instructor
11-22-2011, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the tips, Jo. Green in the shadows is a nice improvement. As for the tree...do you suggest starting the trunk further from the bottom or did you have something else in mind?
Yes, bring it up more.

Johannes Instructor
11-22-2011, 03:13 PM
Hi Joe, Sorry i have missed my Mountains class i tried to get in this week but i was an hour late. Went to my sons and he was not home for me to watch it. I notice you now have the buildings for download at 39.99. Are they giving those who have already taken the coarse a discount so we are not paying for it twice? Thanks Teresa
Yes there is a discount on that if you took the class. You would have to send me an email so I can give you the coupon code.