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Harry Seymour
03-16-2011, 08:51 PM
This is an 8x10 pastel scratchboard. Here I show the scratching on black pastel applied to a white clayboard. I realize there is not much to see here but I wanted to show the process as I move to my first pastel board in color.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Mar-2011/131361-A_little_meditation_WIP4.jpg

lorna12
03-16-2011, 09:28 PM
I'm pulling up a chair.:D

PatrickHedges
03-16-2011, 11:53 PM
Ok...............this should be fun!!! :thumbsup:

Obedec
03-17-2011, 12:11 AM
I find myself looking very closely to see if I can recognize a style so I can win the exchange guessing game....intriguing.

Diana Lee
03-17-2011, 02:45 AM
I, too, am pulling up a chair! How very exciting!

Diana

Rodman
03-17-2011, 07:51 AM
Harry....Please explain your thought process further.... so, your coating a board with black & colored Pastel... solid?, or is there or will there be shaping with the pastel? Hmmmmmm....very interesting! ... im wondering, does the oil in the pastel ( im guessing the pastels have oil in them)..effect the clay? Mooshy? Discolor the clay?..... im excited about this handling of this surface....move over somebody...I wanna watch too!!

Bertoni
03-17-2011, 10:08 AM
Can't wait to see what comes next in the experiment!!!!

VENKAT
03-17-2011, 10:55 AM
You have improvised a method of your own to make an incompatible medium like Pastel to work on a smooth surface of SB . Interesting to watch how this develops.
Venkat

fire angel
03-17-2011, 11:19 AM
Very interested to see where this goes!

Harry Seymour
03-17-2011, 12:01 PM
Harry....Please explain your thought process further.... so, your coating a board with black & colored Pastel... solid?, or is there or will there be shaping with the pastel? Hmmmmmm....very interesting! ... im wondering, does the oil in the pastel ( im guessing the pastels have oil in them)..effect the clay? Mooshy? Discolor the clay?..... im excited about this handling of this surface....move over somebody...I wanna watch too!!

Thanks for joining me in this experiment-Lorna,Patrick,Karen, Diana, Rodman, Bertoni, and Venkat. Rodman- yes I coated a white board with black pastel. I did try Ampersand pastel board but did not like the feel of it and could not scratch on it. I'm trying to combine the scratching process with the beauty of pastels. For this board I'm using pan pastels mixed with mineral spirits (did not like the smell of denatured alcohol). So far the process is working with no apparent adverse effects on the board. I will apply color after I complete scratching the image. Stay tuned.

birdlover
03-17-2011, 12:09 PM
How fun I'll be watching.

Buggin3
03-17-2011, 01:00 PM
Sounds like a really innovative process, Harry. I'm looking forward to seeing how this all comes together, and how you incorporate the color.

FoggyMountain
03-17-2011, 05:09 PM
I'm looking forward to lots of progress photos if possible. This is very interesting. Thanks for explaining it well too.

lorna12
03-17-2011, 05:41 PM
Are pan pastels oil pastels or the soft powdery pastels? I have both the latter kind but haven't heard of pan pastels.(I don't think?)

pandorea
03-17-2011, 05:47 PM
Very fascinating, Harry; I will be watching with great interest like everyone else. I have heard of pan pastels but like lorna can't quite recall what they are........looking forward to your next post.

Harry Seymour
03-17-2011, 07:23 PM
Thanks for looking Greg, Angela, Brett, Lynn, Lorna, and Christobel. Here is some information on pan pastels:
http://www.paintingwithpastels.com/pan-pastels.php


Also here is another http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Mar-2011/131361-Meditation_WIp2.jpgupdate. The next will be more revealing of what I'm working on.

03ahmed
03-17-2011, 07:23 PM
Looking forward to the next update!

Harry Seymour
03-17-2011, 08:53 PM
Thanks Irfan. We obviously crossed in submission. My second update is above.

Harry Seymour
03-18-2011, 07:41 PM
Here is my next update.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Mar-2011/131361-Meditation_WIp4.jpg

PatrickHedges
03-18-2011, 08:16 PM
Aah, now I get it! And we see your style coming through even in this different approach. :thumbsup:

Garbonzo
03-19-2011, 01:57 AM
This is really fascinating Harry. It just shows how versatile this claybord is. I always enjoy your work but this will be extra special.

caribouhills
03-19-2011, 03:13 AM
I like what you are doing here Harry. This is very interesting, your work is always great.

MuttHut
03-19-2011, 03:22 AM
This is so interesting to see come together.

Wendy

pamelalbd
03-19-2011, 02:14 PM
Wow...Very interesting thread. Now I'm gonna go read up on the pan pastels! I'll be watching!

Harry Seymour
03-21-2011, 05:32 PM
Thank you Patrick, Harold, Mark, Wendy and Pamela. Here is more.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Mar-2011/131361-Meditation_WIp5.jpg

MuttHut
03-21-2011, 06:20 PM
Getting even better, really neat looking.

Wendy

pandorea
03-21-2011, 07:00 PM
coming along nicely, Harold. Thanks for the link to pan pastels - I'll have a look in the local art supplies shop.

lorna12
03-21-2011, 07:12 PM
This is looking great Harry! Thanks for the link...they look interesting...I might have given pastels more of a chance if I had tried some of them.

PatrickHedges
03-21-2011, 07:52 PM
Yes indeed, thanks for the link. I'd heard of them - very interesting.

Rodman
03-21-2011, 08:21 PM
Harry... I Love how this is going.. I guess, i'l have to go see what OTHER art supply, i can't live without.

Harry Seymour
03-23-2011, 05:54 PM
Thank you Wendy, Christobel, Lorna, Patrick and Rodman. Here is blow up of http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Mar-2011/131361-Wip8b.jpgthe child in my first introduction of pastel color.

kenmacf
03-23-2011, 06:39 PM
What fun! I love it. I get the feeling the water is a long way off.
Ken

Buggin3
03-23-2011, 06:58 PM
Wow, Harry! I would say that your color pastel experiment was a HUGE success! Very cool. :clap: :clap: :clap:

SueR
03-23-2011, 08:57 PM
How neat is that!
Way to go Harry!!

Harry Seymour
03-24-2011, 11:25 AM
thanks-
Ken that water is close;
Brett the pastels are quite interesting and I'm enjoying and discovering as I go;
Sue-glad you like. I'll post the complete board soon.

birdlover
03-24-2011, 12:22 PM
Very nice Harry love the color for her. Did you apply the pastels with mineral oil again? I have a set of those pan pastels they are different.

artbygail
03-24-2011, 04:32 PM
Awwww.... this is so sweet! Gail

FoggyMountain
03-24-2011, 04:58 PM
Fantastic with coloring of pastel. Great project.

Harry Seymour
03-24-2011, 07:25 PM
Thanks Gail, Lynn and Angela.
Angela--No I did not use mineral oil. I use mineral spirits which is a paint thinner but dries quickly. Denatured alcohol would work as well but it has toxic odor when used inside. Not sure what effect mineral oil would have, but don't think oil and claybord would be compatible.

sandrawillard
03-24-2011, 11:19 PM
Harry, this is SO cool! You are my pastel hero. Can't wait to see more!

lorna12
03-25-2011, 12:23 AM
Wonderful colors Harry...Big :thumbsup: to the experiment...it sure seems to be going well!

VENKAT
03-25-2011, 01:14 AM
Harrt : You have shown the way, how to. Has the Renoir touch
Venkat

PatrickHedges
03-25-2011, 07:49 AM
Goodness Harry!! I'm going to take very close notes!!

VENKAT
03-25-2011, 09:37 AM
Sorry about the spelling error in name .
Venkat

03ahmed
03-25-2011, 12:32 PM
Great experiment! It turned out fantastic!! I have always wanted to try some serious works with pastels so this is definitely inspiring!

Harry Seymour
04-04-2011, 07:12 PM
Here is my final version unless you see something I need to address.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Apr-2011/131361-A_little_meditation_WIP_final.jpg

artofnature
04-04-2011, 08:18 PM
How come I missed all of this! What a wonderful journey you have had with this and the result is stunning.

Those colours are beautiful

Harry, is it as easy and smooth to scratch as Ampersand?

Hope you do some more for us

lorna12
04-04-2011, 08:44 PM
I love how your experiment turned out Harry...the colors are really nice and work fantastic...not only that, but the overall picture is a really charming work of art.

FoggyMountain
04-04-2011, 09:19 PM
That was neat to watch come along Harry. Great job.

PatrickHedges
04-04-2011, 10:11 PM
Wow Harry, that came up a treat. It's so you and yet it's so different too! :clap:

SueR
04-04-2011, 10:18 PM
Oh Harry...this is wonderful!

birdlover
04-04-2011, 10:33 PM
Very nice loved the process.

Harry Seymour
04-04-2011, 10:41 PM
Thanks Lorna, Lynn, Patrick, Sue and Angela.
Angela, you ask if it is as smooth scratching as on Ampersand. This is an Ampersand white clayboard.

VENKAT
04-05-2011, 01:04 AM
The finish is in great style.
Venkat

MuttHut
04-05-2011, 01:48 AM
Really nice finish Harry, she looks so content.

Wendy

caribouhills
04-05-2011, 04:44 AM
Beautiful work Harry, I like your courage to try new and different things with scratchboard.

Rodman
04-05-2011, 07:13 AM
And then Harry broke some new ground.... way to go Harry. I would call this experiment a huge success.

annamelia
04-05-2011, 07:44 AM
This is so different and so gorgeous!!

Harry Seymour
04-05-2011, 09:41 AM
Venkat, Mark, Wendy, Rodman and Judy-thanks for looking and appreciating this new process. I'm excited about trying new pieces with pastels and scratching.

fire angel
04-05-2011, 09:49 AM
Great job Harry, a beautiful piece with wonderful coloring!!

03ahmed
04-05-2011, 06:16 PM
Wow! What a fantastic finish Harry!! I am looking forward to more of these pastel scratchiboards!:)

Diana Lee
04-05-2011, 09:08 PM
Wonderful!!!! What a magnificent job!!! I love how the blanket reflects the sand in texture.

Diana

tigress
04-05-2011, 10:00 PM
That turned out very nice. I had no idea that you could use pastels on clayboard. Will you have to frame it under glass or spray as usual?

SammyH
04-05-2011, 10:14 PM
Harry, this painting is so well done. Love the textures of the sand. The child seems serene.
I'm intrigued by your experiment. I have the entire set of PanPastels but rarely use them. Did the mixture of mineral oil and PanPastel dry to a hard finish or was it still chalky? My friend puts down pastel and then brushes alcohol on it to set it. I see that I have some experimentation in the wind.

Garbonzo
04-05-2011, 10:52 PM
Harry, man, that is a beaut. Wonderful job of exposing a new method of claybording. I think it should be called the Seymour effect. :lol: Beautiful work my friend.

Harry Seymour
04-06-2011, 08:29 AM
Greg-pastel colors are very strong and thanks,
Irfan-thanks and I do intend more until I feel I've mastered it. Pastel is a bit trickier than inks,
Thanks Diana,
Tigress- yes it will be sprayed but I tend to frame and glass all my scratchboards,
Sammy- it would not work as chalk, but when mineral spirits or alcohol is applied it is scratchable,
Thanks Harold- I don't know about the 'Seymour effect" but do appreciate the versatility of claybord. None of this would be possible on canvas or paper.

Garbonzo
04-06-2011, 11:20 AM
Harry, in all seriousness, it is really nice to see another technique that works because of the Claybord. I think it is one of the most versatile mediums available. I always enjoy your work and love your experimeting.

Harry Seymour
04-07-2011, 09:40 PM
Harold--I agree about claybord. It does indeed change the playing field for artists. We have just "scratched" the surface of possibilities.