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Johannes Instructor
03-10-2011, 09:14 AM
It is time you post new paintings only that were done after you took the value mapping classes with me. Please do not post older paintings.

judyfilarecki
03-11-2011, 12:57 PM
This is my first painting using your methods of developing interesting shapes and value mapping. It was done with water-soluble-oils on a 16 x 20 stretched canvas.

680036

The mid dark areas are across the center where the dark greens are. I connected these areas with shadowing under the barn and with the barn openings. The mid light area is the sky at the horizon on the left. Light areas were also added as needed throughout the sky to increase the interest of the massive mid areas. All of the foreground and barn and trees were identified as mid values. I paid special attention to the shape of the tree to make it interesting

Ruthie57
03-11-2011, 02:20 PM
Oh, glad I'm not the first! I'm showing my thumbnail and the finished piece...well, I thought it was finished but I've seen something........I'll wait 'til I get a critique before messing with it any more.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2011/189061-thumb.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2011/189061-small.JPG

valh
03-11-2011, 04:22 PM
Whew! for awhile there I thought I'd have to be first!

The values have not come across correctly. I believe the dark mass
in centre of the picture appears correct as per the original. But the values
in the background don't look 'right'-or maybe more correctly those values do not look the same as on the original (entirely possible that it's not right
on the original either!)

Anyway.....here it is for all to see. yikes......


680042

(9x6 on fredrics canvas pad)

Johannes Instructor
03-11-2011, 05:50 PM
This is my first painting using your methods of developing interesting shapes and value mapping. It was done with water-soluble-oils on a 16 x 20 stretched canvas.

680036

The mid dark areas are across the center where the dark greens are. I connected these areas with shadowing under the barn and with the barn openings. The mid light area is the sky at the horizon on the left. Light areas were also added as needed throughout the sky to increase the interest of the massive mid areas. All of the foreground and barn and trees were identified as mid values. I paid special attention to the shape of the tree to make it interesting
I see symmetrical shapes in several areas.

Johannes Instructor
03-11-2011, 05:56 PM
Oh, glad I'm not the first! I'm showing my thumbnail and the finished piece...well, I thought it was finished but I've seen something........I'll wait 'til I get a critique before messing with it any more.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2011/189061-thumb.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2011/189061-small.JPG

I think you should be happy with what you did. Maybe you can backwards paint to remove the triangle shape of the large evergreens.

tedzart
03-12-2011, 09:44 AM
I am struggling with the values, both the pencil sketches and the painting. Can't seem to get the pencil to give me the proper values. In the painting, I think my mid and dark mid were one step too dark. Then as I attempted to lighten those two areas, they seemed to go too light too fast. Hopefully, I can work on improving the melodic lines, too. Lost some of what I was visualizing.

Thanks for your tolerance of our struggles.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/180589-DSCF9305800.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/180589-DSCF9303800.jpg

jtburton
03-12-2011, 11:00 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/59338-grassy_pass_2.jpg

Here's my try at it, it is 16X20 oil on canvas. I am really enjoying the class and can see I still have much to learn. So I am looking forward to learning what I can do to improve it. As always criticism is very welcome.

Judibelle
03-12-2011, 11:01 AM
Gave it a quick try...changed the vaulues a bit from my original value sketch...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/103700-scan0004.jpg__valu_sketch_painiting.jpg

Johannes Instructor
03-12-2011, 12:30 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/59338-grassy_pass_2.jpg

Here's my try at it, it is 16X20 oil on canvas. I am really enjoying the class and can see I still have much to learn. So I am looking forward to learning what I can do to improve it. As always criticism is very welcome.

I suggest you think more in grouping tree, especially evergreen trees in units rather then think in individual trees. If we think tree a, then tree b then tree c we tend to clone.
Here are some examples
http://clydeaspevig.com/clyde_aspevig_summer_flow.html
http://clydeaspevig.com/clyde_aspevig_frozen_stream.html

lebeau
03-12-2011, 02:06 PM
This is my first landscape painting

nvcricket
03-12-2011, 03:26 PM
I everyone, I went plein air painting yesterday and this is a couple of hours worth of effort. Pastel 9x12 I took a picture of the reference area. A picture of my thumbnails, one of my underpainting, and one of the painting.
C&C welcome.
These were painted after the mass identification classes.
Thanks Johannes:clap:

Carol

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/nvcricket/painting%20refs/RESIZED%20PHOTOS/DSCN1551-1.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/nvcricket/painting%20refs/RESIZED%20PHOTOS/DSCN1554-1.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/nvcricket/painting%20refs/RESIZED%20PHOTOS/DSCN1555-1.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/nvcricket/painting%20refs/RESIZED%20PHOTOS/DSCN1601-1.jpg

crem
03-12-2011, 07:00 PM
see later post

crem
03-12-2011, 07:17 PM
MOUNTAIN MAN Ė a book cover commission
WORK IN PROGRESS - I had originally envisioned this for fall landscape, but since my figure is in yellow buckskin, I am now thinking I might need to change to a greener spring landscape, maybe even with some blue camas haze in the field or other flower color. But, any thoughts for keeping a fall landscape but still helping the figure stand out? I want the guy to pop from the background but still feel like he is in the scene. Also Ė I want this to have evening-light, with lots of warm (pink?) tones on the lit side of the figure, clouds, mountains, etc. I do not have a photo of this landscape scene Ė all from imagination and general memory, which adds to my challenge. I want the primary focus to be on the face, with secondary focus on right hand & rifle, lastly body and landscape. I want the landscape to match the level of realism or style of the figure, but not be distracting. There will be text added in the sky and lower left for the book cover, but I want the painting to work without text too. There is not much room here for landscape so maybe I am putting in too many elements? I like the creek because I believe it gives depth and lead-in, but is it too busy? The rifle and bottom-of-trees are lining up too much. Should I raise or lower base of trees? Maybe extend the field behind the rifle for better silhouette/contrast? I am feeling pretty lost on the best value massing strategy to achieve my goals. Iíve done a composition structure sketch, but Iím not sure if it truly represents what is happening. Any comments from anyone are most welcome.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/141376-3-10-11_s.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/141376-mass_study_gimp.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/141376-mtn_man_composition.jpg

crem
03-12-2011, 07:30 PM
WORK IN PROGRESS - This is a friendís rustic old stone sauna building. I believe the focus wants to be on the door, with the stone path as a lead-in. I have done a study of its composition structure, but Iím not sure if it is working in favor of my intended focus. I think I need to tone down my greens further. A friend suggested potted plants hanging down from the roof of the building as an aid to bring focus to the door. I want the stone steps to read as treads and risers, but not be distractingly busy, not to steal the focus from the door. I want the stone wall at far right to read as stone texture, but not let the texture distract. Does the door want to be mid-light? More saturated color? More detail? I have also done a value mass study. Any comments from anyone are most welcome.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/141376-3-10-11_s.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/141376-sauna_ref_photo.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/141376-sauna_mass_study_gimp.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/141376-sauna_composition.jpg

Silverlark
03-12-2011, 07:31 PM
Good overall figure and colors, and I like his thoughtful expression.
The left hand (on the knife hilt) on the figure is a bit small, when compared to the right hand which looks in better proportion. Also, the fingers will look better if you overlap them and slightly foreshorten the width all but the index. Fingers won't all appear the same width unless you're looking directly down on the hand. The slight foreshortening on them is what makes hands tricky. You might check the left forearm too, to make sure it's in proper proportion.
Good gesture on the figure, you've really got that restful yet alert stance.
Theresa

firesignart
03-12-2011, 08:31 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/97017-2011-03-12_18.10.25.jpg
from your photo
from this value study

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/97017-valuestudy1blk.jpg

firesignart
03-12-2011, 09:34 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/97017-scan0002.jpg

sorry this is scanned in and more accurate of my grey painting colours.

tuscanni
03-13-2011, 03:10 AM
johannes...this was done tonight, after taking your recent classes. I am very new to pastel and not used to not mixing the color that I need. I have always done landscapes in oils and acrylics. I tried to incorporate the principles that you taught us, but I find it very difficult to get away from using so much green. I tried not to use the garish green that you spoke about. I dont know what color to use besides green. I tried to draw shapes instead of leaves and took bites out of trees/shapes as per your instruction. I changed the tree shapes to suit my needs, so they look nothing like the picture at all. I am not happy with the outcome of this piece, except the fact that I did try to follow what you have been teaching us. I am posting both the greyscale and color version. The value map was done in my head. Maybe I need to darken my values overall?
ann
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/187535-landscape1.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/187535-landscape2.jpg

wetbob
03-13-2011, 03:35 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/187535-landscape1.jpg

I think there are many lines in your painting. It seems your river ends up in the middle of the canvas, deviding it in 2 halfs (paintings). The grass is also in the danger zone. Rule Johannes 1/3 and 2/3 s.
The grass looks convincing, beautiful drawing,
WB

debbieh
03-13-2011, 06:19 PM
Hi Johannes, I wanted to take the demo one step further, and paint along with you. I had to 'wing it' a bit, because I did not have the image drawn on before you started, and so was sort of drawing as I went along. I finished with it when you did, and will go back to work on some things later. Wow, this was a very challenging, and meaningful way to learn. I want to thank you for all the time and energy you put into so graciously sharing your skills and knowledge with us. You are doing a wonderful thing for all of us, and I hope that you will find your life especially blessed because of your generosity! I would love to see what little things you do to fine tune this piece. Again, thank you.
Debbie Harding

karan55
03-13-2011, 07:23 PM
I really loved the photo, in Saturday's class, where you played chess with the bushes in the foreground; (the bushes had a little violet in them). When you showed that demo before, it really grabbed my attention. I loved the revised photo so much and felt very motivated to paint it!!! I think I really understand it and would like to try painting that landscape for my homework assignment. Can you post it or send it to me?

Johannes Instructor
03-13-2011, 08:09 PM
I really loved the photo, in Saturday's class, where you played chess with the bushes in the foreground; (the bushes had a little violet in them). When you showed that demo before, it really grabbed my attention. I loved the revised photo so much and felt very motivated to paint it!!! I think I really understand it and would like to try painting that landscape for my homework assignment. Can you post it or send it to me?





The photo is in the Johannes Student discussion thread week 6

Johannes Instructor
03-13-2011, 08:14 PM
I think there are many lines in your painting. It seems your river ends up in the middle of the canvas, deviding it in 2 halfs (paintings). The grass is also in the danger zone. Rule Johannes 1/3 and 2/3 s.
The grass looks convincing, beautiful drawing,
WB
I second the lines comment. You don't want the lines in grass and water seem to carved out. They should be subtle. Value wise you have large areas commiting to a certain value. So if that part is right the painting will work which it is. I am content that you understood the masses class.

Silverlark
03-13-2011, 09:07 PM
Hi Johannes,
Here's my homework. Can't tell you how grateful & appreciative I am of your generosity. All that great info about value masses, and for FREE. Wow!
I was having trouble with the weeds, errr... gold/brown shapes. I wanted more texture on them. I'm fairly content with the mountain, altho I found myself reverting to Big Bend, Texas colors, in which case the snow would be quite an anomaly. Anyways, your comments/advice would be well appreciated.
Theresa

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/10034-mountainART.jpg

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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/10034-mountainARTgris.jpg

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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/10034-homeworkmar7A.jpg

karan55
03-13-2011, 10:01 PM
The photo is in the Johannes Student discussion thread week 6
I just went thru the thread a couple of times a could not find the photo. It was not the one with the stream coming in. It was the one with a straight line of bushes across and the bushes had some violet in them.

Silverlark
03-13-2011, 10:09 PM
I just went thru the thread a couple of times a could not find the photo. It was not the one with the stream coming in. It was the one with a straight line of bushes across and the bushes had some violet in them.

Try the value maps thread; there are a lot of photos in there.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=923782

crem
03-13-2011, 10:21 PM
Good overall figure and colors, and I like his thoughtful expression.
The left hand (on the knife hilt) on the figure is a bit small, when compared to the right hand which looks in better proportion. Also, the fingers will look better if you overlap them and slightly foreshorten the width all but the index. Fingers won't all appear the same width unless you're looking directly down on the hand. The slight foreshortening on them is what makes hands tricky. You might check the left forearm too, to make sure it's in proper proportion.
Good gesture on the figure, you've really got that restful yet alert stance.
Theresa

Thanks, Teresa. You bring up some very good points. It helps greatly to have another pair of eyes.

Johannes Instructor
03-13-2011, 10:57 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/97017-scan0002.jpg

sorry this is scanned in and more accurate of my grey painting colours.
value design with masses looks good. I wouldve left the mountain in full view though. I only crop mountains if I will emphasize a lake or river. can you do something about the triangle at the left?

Johannes Instructor
03-13-2011, 11:03 PM
Hi Johannes,
Here's my homework. Can't tell you how grateful & appreciative I am of your generosity. All that great info about value masses, and for FREE. Wow!
I was having trouble with the weeds, errr... gold/brown shapes. I wanted more texture on them. I'm fairly content with the mountain, altho I found myself reverting to Big Bend, Texas colors, in which case the snow would be quite an anomaly. Anyways, your comments/advice would be well appreciated.
Theresa

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/10034-mountainART.jpg

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http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/10034-mountainARTgris.jpg

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Value mapping was done well in your painting. Even if the colors are somewhat unnatural, if the values are done right the painting works. Clap clap that you were able to stay true to your value plan.

Silverlark
03-13-2011, 11:34 PM
Value mapping was done well in your painting. Even if the colors are somewhat unnatural, if the values are done right the painting works. Clap clap that you were able to stay true to your value plan.

Wow, fast response...thanks Johannes! I was tempted to veer, but I squinted and stayed on course. :^)

kittierue
03-14-2011, 01:37 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Mar-2011/222668-MT_Valley__Mass_Planning_Sketch.jpg

jtburton
03-15-2011, 09:15 PM
I changed the trees on the right, is this better.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Mar-2011/59338-grassy_pass_3.jpg

tuscanni
03-16-2011, 12:01 AM
I think there are many lines in your painting. It seems your river ends up in the middle of the canvas, deviding it in 2 halfs (paintings). The grass is also in the danger zone. Rule Johannes 1/3 and 2/3 s.
The grass looks convincing, beautiful drawing,
WB
Thanks for your input WB. My pastel landscape didnt turn out very well and I am very displeased with it. In my minds eye, I want my pastel to look a certain way, but when I put pastel to paper, it just doesnt look the same as I had intended. I am not sure if its because I am a terrible artist or if its because I am not experienced enough with working in the pastel medium.
Thanks for comment, I appreciate it.
ANN

Silverlark
03-16-2011, 01:24 AM
Thanks for your input WB. My pastel landscape didnt turn out very well and I am very displeased with it. In my minds eye, I want my pastel to look a certain way, but when I put pastel to paper, it just doesnt look the same as I had intended. I am not sure if its because I am a terrible artist or if its because I am not experienced enough with working in the pastel medium.
Thanks for comment, I appreciate it.
ANN

I like your painting. The colors in it are good, your technique is fresh, you've got good strokes and the shapes are fine too. Please put your painting away for a few weeks, then look at it again. The lines could be softened, and the corner part could be de-emphasized. These aspects can be improved, but wait a while until you feel objective and relaxed.
Theresa

wetbob
03-16-2011, 04:10 AM
My pastel landscape didnt turn out very well and I am very displeased with it
We are here only for learning. Thnx Johannes. I only mentioned the strategy of your pastel. I like it overall.

Johannes Instructor
03-16-2011, 09:07 AM
Thanks for your input WB. My pastel landscape didnt turn out very well and I am very displeased with it. In my minds eye, I want my pastel to look a certain way, but when I put pastel to paper, it just doesnt look the same as I had intended. I am not sure if its because I am a terrible artist or if its because I am not experienced enough with working in the pastel medium.
Thanks for comment, I appreciate it.
ANN
I will confess something to you. I still have to meet an artist that is 100% pleased with his paintings. What happens with me is that I am happy with some areas, others not. This is normal and we all suffer from it. I guess it is our nature not to be conformed and strive for more. Also take into account that when you are doing a painting you are staring at it for hours and you become too familiarzed with it and it loses its impact on you. But for a new viewer they see it under the first impression so it would be more exciting when he starts to explore in it.

Ruthie57
03-16-2011, 12:00 PM
I will confess something to you. I still have to meet an artist that is 100% pleased with his paintings. What happens with me is that I am happy with some areas, others not. This is normal and we all suffer from it. I guess it is our nature not to be conformed and strive for more. Also take into account that when you are doing a painting you are staring at it for hours and you become too familiarzed with it and it loses its impact on you. But for a new viewer they see it under the first impression so it would be more exciting when he starts to explore in it.

Another thing which happens to me...and surely others....is that I sometimes get so caught up in the moment and think I am producing a masterpiece! It is only later, in the cold light of day, that I see the painting's faults. Often then I don't want to go back to it because I Know I'll never get that feeling back with it.

Maybe I'm just weird :D

tuscanni
03-16-2011, 06:52 PM
I will confess something to you. I still have to meet an artist that is 100% pleased with his paintings. What happens with me is that I am happy with some areas, others not. This is normal and we all suffer from it. I guess it is our nature not to be conformed and strive for more. Also take into account that when you are doing a painting you are staring at it for hours and you become too familiarzed with it and it loses its impact on you. But for a new viewer they see it under the first impression so it would be more exciting when he starts to explore in it.
Johannes....WOW! I am very surprised to hear you say that, but thankful that you did. I didnt realize that top professional artists, like yourself, sometimes arent pleased with your paintings. In your webinars, you are so confident in your work, I admire that. I have big doubts about my work, but I guess thats just my nature. I struggle and struggle to make my paintings wonderful, but to me, they dont look wonderful. However, I do not give up, because I love art, making art and I love others work and creative type people.
I have gotten over my hurdle of being displeased with my last landscape homework and am excited about starting a new piece from one of the photos you posted.
Thanks for showing us the way to produce more beautiful works of art. I am not sure if you realize how important your teachings have become to some of us. Its opened a whole new world of understanding art.
ANN

tuscanni
03-16-2011, 06:56 PM
Another thing which happens to me...and surely others....is that I sometimes get so caught up in the moment and think I am producing a masterpiece! It is only later, in the cold light of day, that I see the painting's faults. Often then I don't want to go back to it because I Know I'll never get that feeling back with it.

Maybe I'm just weird :D
ruthie....I have always thought that your work was gorgeous. I was always hoping to be as good as you are one day with pastels. I have seen your posts in the pastel forum and always admired them.
Maybe you are right, we get caught up in the moment of trying to produce a masterpiece, then it winds up being a dud! LOL Speaking of my own work of course.
ANN

Johannes Instructor
03-16-2011, 07:08 PM
Johannes....WOW! I am very surprised to hear you say that, but thankful that you did. I didnt realize that top professional artists, like yourself, sometimes arent pleased with your paintings. In your webinars, you are so confident in your work, I admire that. I have big doubts about my work, but I guess thats just my nature. I struggle and struggle to make my paintings wonderful, but to me, they dont look wonderful. However, I do not give up, because I love art, making art and I love others work and creative type people.
I have gotten over my hurdle of being displeased with my last landscape homework and am excited about starting a new piece from one of the photos you posted.
Thanks for showing us the way to produce more beautiful works of art. I am not sure if you realize how important your teachings have become to some of us. Its opened a whole new world of understanding art.
ANN
I am confident at what I know but that doesn't mean a plan comes together in paintings they way I wanted it to. Clyde Aspevig himself told Ken and me that his paintings don't come out the way he wants them too.

tuscanni
03-16-2011, 09:13 PM
I am confident at what I know but that doesn't mean a plan comes together in paintings they way I wanted it to. Clyde Aspevig himself told Ken and me that his paintings don't come out the way he wants them too.
So I guess, there is some glimmer of hope that maybe oneday, we students of yours might be professional top artists like yourself. Even the best of the best artists, all their work doesnt come out perfect, thats good to know. I guess we have to keep striving to produce the best work we possibly can. To expand my mind, I am trying a new medium, pastels. Its always fun for me to learn something new.
ANN

beart
03-18-2011, 11:45 AM
I chose a photo of yours. My husband said it was a terrible picture to paint from. He would have liked to see the others. He said that I didn't even know what it is. I said it looked like maybe a coal mine. I just chose it as it looked to be a challenge but I don't think I stuck with my mass map when I compared it but close. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Mar-2011/88528-Mass_study_1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Mar-2011/88528-Painting_for_homework_1.jpg

Johannes Instructor
03-18-2011, 04:07 PM
I chose a photo of yours. My husband said it was a terrible picture to paint from. He would have liked to see the others. He said that I didn't even know what it is. I said it looked like maybe a coal mine. I just chose it as it looked to be a challenge but I don't think I stuck with my mass map when I compared it but close. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Mar-2011/88528-Mass_study_1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Mar-2011/88528-Painting_for_homework_1.jpg

Yes, you did stay with the value map. I feel the rocks crowd the foreground because they were placed inside the "no fly zone". But other than that it is good composition. Not to take merit away from your painting but do you see that when you have a strong reference photo how it helps get a good painting out of it?

Johannes Instructor
03-18-2011, 04:09 PM
So I guess, there is some glimmer of hope that maybe oneday, we students of yours might be professional top artists like yourself. Even the best of the best artists, all their work doesnt come out perfect, thats good to know. I guess we have to keep striving to produce the best work we possibly can. To expand my mind, I am trying a new medium, pastels. Its always fun for me to learn something new.
ANN
Are you kidding me! LOL! We just show what we want you to see. We don't show the duds we have in the basement.

beart
03-18-2011, 04:51 PM
This is the first time I used a map like this. I usually just paint. I usually paint very loose but thinking about stuff does slow you down. I think you have a gift of teaching as I have bought videos and before half of them were over I was having a hard time with keeping awake. Your stuff is new and clear.

sherrysherman
03-18-2011, 05:04 PM
Are you kidding me! LOL! We just show what we want you to see. We don't show the duds we have in the basement.
LOL! How full is your basement?

One good thing about pastels (my medium), they don't take that much space to store, once they're either done or I've given up. Of course, I have a dozen still taped to boards stacked against various walls, ready for me to either fix, finish, or give up on. I'm running out of available boards. :rolleyes:

lonelm
03-18-2011, 06:11 PM
So very excited. I just came from class with Johannes and finally finished my first oil painting in a long long time. I have not painted oils since my teen years so it was a good feeling. I stopped to buy a frame for it on my way home to make it feel even more finished.

It is based on one of the photos we saw in the webinars. The one with the very dark foreground which appealed to me for the drama it showed. Well here it is. Needs a wee bit of scumbling in the hills after it is dry but mostly finished. I did most of it myself, with some well placed Johannes strokes. I am learning so much from him and appreciate the opportunity these classes have given.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Mar-2011/212898-1stOil.jpg

RainySea
03-18-2011, 06:21 PM
WOW, that is beautiful, Judy.

lonelm
03-18-2011, 06:27 PM
Thank you Rainy. I was so excited to finish one. I have not been doing much painting so it felt so good to get one done.

valh
03-18-2011, 09:43 PM
Hi all :)
After I got past the 'ugly' stage without pitching the whole painting into the trash, after finding myself 'fiddling', after many bouts of doubt, after this and after.......here is my 2nd effort. Once again, this snapshot of my painting is not even close to what the picture looks like.
In the painting the yellow's and oranges are way more muted as are the trees. In fact the whole painting is -- dull ? sombre? not sure of the correct word. Sombre is probably closer. What is with that? Have I hopelessly muddied up my colors?
I used the curve tool in Gimp to try and bring the photo more inline with the actual picture. Still the trees in centre of photo still look like they are on fire.
Also I did not stay true to my value plan. Aaarrrgh. :eek:
I hope, Johannes, that you can point me in the right direction re the dull pall that seems to be hanging over my painting(s).

Johannes Instructor
03-18-2011, 09:50 PM
Hi all :)
After I got past the 'ugly' stage without pitching the whole painting into the trash, after finding myself 'fiddling', after many bouts of doubt, after this and after.......here is my 2nd effort. Once again, this snapshot of my painting is not even close to what the picture looks like.
In the painting the yellow's and oranges are way more muted as are the trees. In fact the whole painting is -- dull ? sombre? not sure of the correct word. Sombre is probably closer. What is with that? Have I hopelessly muddied up my colors?
I used the curve tool in Gimp to try and bring the photo more inline with the actual picture. Still the trees in centre of photo still look like they are on fire.
Also I did not stay true to my value plan. Aaarrrgh. :eek:
I hope, Johannes, that you can point me in the right direction re the dull pall that seems to be hanging over my painting(s).

Actually you did stay with the value plan. Look above a few postings and you will see some trees that are orange. They are not on fire. They are getting a low horizon late afternoon sunlight.

valh
03-19-2011, 09:28 AM
Thank you Johannes. I actually did plan to have those trees as the 'star' on my stage (wow! some things do turn out as planned) :)
I thought for sure that those trees had slipped into the light mid values.
I'm actually fairly pleased with this painting but am concerned why they seem to be turning out so dark and sombre. (hard to tell from the photograph....)
I'm very sad to say that I will miss most of todays class, if not all of it. :crying: Thank goodness I will have Roberts wonderful class notes to fall back on!! (Thank you Robert!)
Cheers!
Val


Actually you did stay with the value plan. Look above a few postings and you will see some trees that are orange. They are not on fire. They are getting a low horizon late afternoon sunlight.

Johannes Instructor
03-19-2011, 12:51 PM
Thank you Johannes. I actually did plan to have those trees as the 'star' on my stage (wow! some things do turn out as planned) :)
I thought for sure that those trees had slipped into the light mid values.
I'm actually fairly pleased with this painting but am concerned why they seem to be turning out so dark and sombre. (hard to tell from the photograph....)
I'm very sad to say that I will miss most of todays class, if not all of it. :crying: Thank goodness I will have Roberts wonderful class notes to fall back on!! (Thank you Robert!)
Cheers!
Val

Always look at your painting in gray scale. Strong pigment chroma appears there is a lot of light. But when you look at the value it ends up being a mid gray.

pat-trew
03-19-2011, 01:07 PM
IN ACRYLICS, AS YOU CAN SEE I DIDN'T LIKE ALL THE CONFUSING BUILDINGS, SO I KEPT THE LITTLE HOUSE ON THE HILL. COMMENTS AND CRITIQUE WELCOME. THIS WAS FUN.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Mar-2011/135220-IMG_1452.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2011/105243-DSCN0657.JPG

susanc
03-19-2011, 02:16 PM
Webinar's fixed. Thanks!

Pinklady219
03-19-2011, 03:24 PM
Here is my homework (done today) ugh I had to scan it therefore I needed to cut some of the pic. I think I have the gist of it. :clap:

kittierue
03-19-2011, 03:55 PM
pinklady: loooove it!!! makes me want to play in the water!

kittierue
03-19-2011, 06:07 PM
Hello Johannes. Great class today!

here is the mass planning image.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2011/222668-MT_Valley__Mass_Planning_Sketch.jpg

Here is my autumn valley. I feel that it is pretty much finished.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2011/222668-DSC_8233.jpg

Rosemarie
03-20-2011, 08:05 AM
This is my homework done! I hope this is the thread to post in as I saw three different threads with postings from the reference photos. I didn't quite stay true the the value map. I intended to use #4 but I think I ended up with #3, I think. :(
The end result looks messy. My halfway through painting was better.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/2623-HW_landscape001_small.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/2623-Landscape_finished_values.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/2623-Landscape_finished.jpg

Johannes Instructor
03-20-2011, 10:03 AM
Hello Johannes. Great class today! by kittierue

Thank you. I do feel the class on edges came out real clear. Now if all my paintings came out like that too.

sherrysherman
03-20-2011, 11:39 AM
Deleted by me. I'm guilty of posting in the wrong place. :(

NeldaJansen
03-20-2011, 01:11 PM
Hi Johannes: Great class yesterday on Edges. I had never heard of the lost and found edge before, and that's a useful gem.

I had posted a photo here by mistake. I've moved it to the correct thread.
It's now in the thread for landscapes based on the Johannes photos.

Thanks again!
Nel Jansen :)

tedzart
03-20-2011, 01:59 PM
I love misty moody painting, so I am trying this one.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/180589-DSCF9330crop.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/180589-DSCF9326_crop.jpg

I am feeling like a never painted before. Too many things rolling around in my head. Looking forward to the class today.
Thank you, Johannes and your many assistants.

kittierue
03-20-2011, 02:28 PM
I feel that the left side is getting a little overworked. But I'm happy overall, considering it's my first watercolor landscape.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/222668-Tetons-dp-march2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/222668-Mass_Planning_1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/222668-DSC_8237.jpg

Johannes Instructor
03-25-2011, 09:49 AM
This is my homework done! I hope this is the thread to post in as I saw three different threads with postings from the reference photos. I didn't quite stay true the the value map. I intended to use #4 but I think I ended up with #3, I think. :(
The end result looks messy. My halfway through painting was better.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/2623-Landscape_finished.jpg

GRRRRR!! a WATERCOLOR WITH NO WET ON WET!!
We need to apply dominance. If we have to sets of evergreens tree only one should be predominate in weight or they clash.

Johannes Instructor
03-25-2011, 09:50 AM
I feel that the left side is getting a little overworked. But I'm happy overall, considering it's my first watercolor landscape.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/222668-Tetons-dp-march2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/222668-Mass_Planning_1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/222668-DSC_8237.jpg

Ok now we have definition. Still the contours of the trees need to look like tree contours but melodic. The painting did improve.

Johannes Instructor
03-25-2011, 09:51 AM
I love misty moody painting, so I am trying this one.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/180589-DSCF9326_crop.jpg

I am feeling like a never painted before. Too many things rolling around in my head. Looking forward to the class today.
Thank you, Johannes and your many assistants.
I feel the two protrusions in the middle ground are visually cloned.

Rosemarie
03-25-2011, 02:20 PM
GRRRRR!! a WATERCOLOR WITH NO WET ON WET!!
We need to apply dominance. If we have to sets of evergreens tree only one should be predominate in weight or they clash.
Sorry, I thought it was about values.

mlgk
03-25-2011, 08:07 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Mar-2011/161785-Mount-Moran
I have not finished this but wanted to see if I am on the right track. I'm not too pleased with my foreground bushes and shore line. Also am not through with the mountains. I am not sure how far to develop them. I want to put some snow on the large one. This is oil and there appears to be clouds in the left sky but it is shine from my medium. My white paint was quite stiff so had to use medium to get the paint to move. Any suggestions will be helpful. Thank you for letting us use your photos.