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lorna12
03-09-2011, 01:56 PM
Cathy and I, along with help from Patrick, Diana and Rich have been working on the bylaws of ISSA (International Society of Scratchboard Artists) over the last several months. After umpteen drafts, we've come to the point where we would like to hear from people here. Everyone interested in the formation of this society is invited to read this over and give us some feedback. Though we think this draft is fairly complete, we are definitely open to ideas and more importantly, did we leave anything out??

Mission, Policies & Bylaws Draft March 2011

MISSION STATEMENT:
The goals of the ISSA are to promote interest in and excellence of Scratchboard Art as a fine art medium through quality exhibitions. The society also strives to educate and expand the publics, art communities, and membership’s knowledge of this medium through exhibition opportunities, workshops, and educational programs beneficial to artists and the public.

ARTICLE I:
NAME
The name of this organization shall be “International Society of Scratchboard Artists”, a not for profit educational organization.

International Society of Scratchboard Artists will hereafter be referred to as ISSA in these by-laws.

PURPOSE
The purpose of this organization is to promote interest in and excellence of Scratchboard Art as a fine art medium through national exhibitions and to encourage education in this form of fine art.

Education and promotion of this medium as fine art to the public, art communities (not limited to galleries, national exhibitions, artists) and membership of ISSA.

ARTICLE II:
MEMBERSHIP
There shall be six (6) categories of membership:

ASSOCIATE MEMBERS :
Any individual who is interested in the aims and purpose of this organization and who pays the annual dues may become a member. This is entry level for scratchboard artists who wish learn and hone their skills, with the eventual aim of becoming an Active, Signature And/or Master member. This level of membership is not juried. Associate members may hold office, and may vote in the official business of the organization. They may not submit work for juried ISSA shows, but may attend workshops and other association organized events.

ACTIVE MEMBERS:
Any artist who has submitted seven (7) works of art for jury by 3 MSA and been approved. An Active member will pay annual dues, may hold office and vote in the official business of the organization. They may submit work for jury for ISSA’s annual exhibition and attend all association events. An Active member may have the eventual goal of becoming a Signature member.

SIGNATURE MEMBERS:
SSA: (Signature Scratchboard Artist) Open to anyone who has advanced scratchboard skills and has submitted seven (7) works of art for jury by 3 MSA and been approved. They may use the designation SSA after their name. They will pay annual dues, may hold office and vote in the official business of the organization. They may submit work for jury to the ISSA annual exhibition and attend all association events. Their eventual goal may be to become a MSA.

MASTER MEMBERS:
MSA: (Master Scratchboard Artist) These are members who have excelled and work at the highest levels of Scratchboard Art. Members must have distinguished themselves and the quality of their work through any or all of the following: national and/or International exhibition history/awards, (or other equally recognized shows or competitions), gallery representation, or may have been published, etc. To be considered for this level, artists must submit a portfolio of 10 works as well as a biography listing achievements to be juried by a panel of 3 existing MSA Members. Members must be current in paying dues. Upon approval, they will become jurors and will no longer be required to be juried into ISSA annual exhibitions. They will continue to pay annual dues.

HONORARY MEMBERS: For persons who have worked selflessly to promote the goals of the ISSA; who may or may not be artists. Upon recommendation of the Board of Directors, Honorary Membership may be conferred through a majority vote during any regular Board of Directors meeting. Honorary Members are exempt from the payment of dues. They may vote at general membership meetings and attend all association events. They qualify to participate in an advisory capacity. Such membership may continue from year to year at the will of the Board of Directors. Honorary members may submit work to ISSA shows at no cost, but are subject to jurying.

SUPPORTING MEMBERS: is for individuals or organizations that wish to belong to and support ISSA with a financial contribution. They will receive newsletters, catalogs, and invitations but are not eligible to enter shows. Supporting members are exempt from the payment of dues. They may not vote at general membership meetings and cannot hold office in this organization. They qualify to participate in an advisory capacity and will be invited to attend show event openings. They are recognized for their commitment in the literature of ISSA. Their supporting membership will continue for one calendar year.
Angel: Donations of $40 to $59
Friend: Donation of $60.00 to $499.00
Patron: Donation of $500.00 to $2,499.00
Benefactor: Donation of $2,500.00 or more
Donations of $1500 or more will have an award(s) named for the person/organization making the donation given out at at the ISSA Annual Juried Exhibition.
Associate, Active, Signature or Master members, who wish to provide additional support to the organization over and above the required annual dues beginning at $40 or more, will also be recognized as a supporting member. They are recognized for their commitment in the literature of ISSA.

MEMBERSHIP LISTS
The Membership Lists of the Society are for the personal use of the individual members and officers. The names, addresses and other information which may be contained in these lists is privileged information and may not be provided to outside interests, commercial or private. The Board may, at its discretion, waive by specific motion, the above ruling.

ARTICLE III:
DUES
Dues shall be derived on an annual basis by the board.
Changes of more than 10% from the previous rate must be brought before the membership and passed with a 2/3 vote.
The dues shall be used exclusively for the promotion of the organization and the payment of its bills.

Section 1
The fiscal year shall be from January first (1st) through December thirty-first (31st).
Section 2
Members not paying their dues by January 31 will be sent a reminder. If not paid by the end of February membership shall be revoked. Active, Signature and Master members are given an additional month grace period in which if membership is renewed they will not have to submit to jurying again. If membership is not renewed by March 31 of that year the individual shall be required to resubmit to the jurying process in order to regain their membership status.
Section 3
Any Active, Signature, or Master member can request a one time only leave of absence (LOA). This request must be submitted in writing to the board. This would allow the individual to not pay dues for up to, but not exceeding, two years and retain their status the following year. The member would not be eligible for exhibitions or other society organized events during their LOA.

ARTICLE IV:
BOARD OF DIRECTORS
The Board of Directors shall be the personification of the WILL of the organization. The President, with the assistance and cooperation of all officers, shall be the carrier of that will.

Section 1
The Board of Directors shall consist of seven (7) members, including President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, and Exhibition Coordinator and two members at-large. The number of directors may be increased or decreased from time to time by resolution of the Board.
Section 2
The Board of Directors shall be the governing body of the organization, and shall make the rules for its government and define the duties of its officers within the guidelines of these BY-LAWS.
Section 3
The Board of Directors shall control the funds of the organization and shall act as trustee for any special funds entrusted to the organization.
Section 4
The Board of Directors shall by a majority vote of those present at a regular Board meeting or a special meeting of the Board called for that purpose, appoint a temporary replacement to fill any vacancy among the members of the Board. The person so appointed shall hold office until the next annual election of the Board and until his or her successor is elected and qualified.
Section 5
The Board and Directors (in addition to the above general powers) shall have the following special powers:
A. To fix and enforce penalties for the violations of the BY-LAWS and rule in cases where none are fixed by the BY-LAWS or
B. To fix and enforce penalties for the violations of the policies and rules in cases where none are fixed by the policies or
C. To remove by a resolution passed by a vote of no less than two-thirds (2/3) of the members of the Board, any committee, either standing or special, or any member thereof, or any officer or member of the Board who fails to attend to their duties under these BY¬LAWS or for conduct deemed contrary to the aims of ISSA.
Section 6
Regular meetings of the Board shall be held quarterly, unless otherwise provided by the Board of Directors. These meetings may be in person, or by video, telephone, or Internet based conferencing as designated by the Board.
Section 7
Special meetings of the Board may be called by the President or two-thirds (2/3) of the Board of Directors. Two (2) of whom shall be the President or Vice President and another officer.
Section 8
Board Members or members in general shall not be held responsible for any fraud or embezzlement perpetrated by any member and/or treasurer of the society.

ARTICLE V:
OFFICERS
All officers shall be the carriers of the WILL of the Board of Directors of the organization.

PRESIDENT: The President of ISSA shall preside at all meetings of the Board of Directors and at all other meetings of the organization and shall have power to appoint committees with the concurrence of the Board.

VICE PRESIDENT: It shall be the duty of the Vice President to perform all the duties of the President in the absence of that officer. The Vice President shall also work in a public relations capacity.

SECRETARY: It shall be the duty of the Secretary to attend all meetings of the organization and the Board of Directors and to keep records of the proceedings. In the absence of the Secretary, an Acting Secretary shall be the custodian of the Seal of the Organization and its records. The books and papers of the organization shall, at all times, be open for inspection to members of the organization. The Secretary shall keep a roll of all members and shall summon the members of the organization and the Board of Directors to all meetings. The Secretary shall conduct correspondence and transact any other business that may be required by the Board, with such assistance as the Board shall provide.

TREASURER: The Treasurer shall receive and hold all moneys and securities belonging to, or receivable by the organization, and pay them out in such manner as shall be designated by the Board of Directors. The Treasurer shall, at the annual meeting of the organization, submit a statement of the receipts and disbursement for the preceding fiscal year, and shall perform such other duties as may, from time to time, be prescribed by the Board. All checks of the ISSA must be signed by the Treasurer and at least one additional Board member.

The Treasurer shall, if so directed by the Board of Directors, at the expense of the organization, obtain a bond from a responsible surety company, as surety of the faithful discharge of the Treasurer’s duties. All funds shall be in the name of the organization in such depositories as the Board shall direct. If in the judgment of the Board there are funds in such account or accounts in excess of the needs for operating purposes such surplus funds may be invested in such manner as may be directed by the Board.

The Treasurer shall make a quarterly report to the Board of Directors showing the financial condition of the organization, and shall make an annual report at the last meeting before the annual meeting to the board. The Treasurer will then present the annual report at the general membership meeting. A copy of the annual financial report shall be made available to the membership at the annual meeting.

No officer, member of the Board or member of the organization shall have power to make any obligation binding the organization to payment of any sum of money whatsoever without approval of the executive committee. The executive committee shall establish guidelines for the approval of expenses. All expenses over $700 must be brought before the general membership and approved by a 2/3 majority vote.

EXHIBITION COORDINATOR: The job of the exhibition coordinator is to oversee a group of committees that would be in charge of organizing the annual exhibition. Those committee responsibilities would include finding and securing a venue, sending membership the prospectus for the event, securing awards, notifying national publications, and advertising for the event.


ARTICLE VI:
MEETINGS
General membership meetings of ISSA shall be held once a year to coincide with the National Exhibition. Time and location shall be identified at least 30 days before the meeting.

ARTICLE VII:
NOMINATIONS AND ELECTIONS

Section 1
Ninety (90) days before the annual meeting, the Board shall appoint a nominating committee of three (3) members of the Board. Any member in good standing may nominate an Associate, Active, Signature or Master Member for the Board of Directors by submitting his or her name to the nominating committee. The nominating committee will be responsible for interviewing proposed candidates to ascertain: (1.) Their commitment to the aims of ISSA (2.) Their willingness to serve on the board (3.) Their commitment to attend at least half of the Board meetings. The nominating committee shall submit their recommendations to the Board for final review.
Section 2
The Board shall provide a list of candidates to the membership at least three weeks before the annual meeting.
Section 3
Voting may be done via mail or electronically. The individuals with the most votes shall be selected.
Section 4
Directors and officers shall serve for a one year period with their term starting the first day of the calendar year.
Section 5
Each director and committee chair is responsible for keeping a written record of their term, as well as all notes, properties and monies associated with that office. These shall be presented to the office’s successor.

ARTICLE VIII:
REMOVAL, RESIGNATION, AND VACANCIES OF DIRECTORS
A director may be removed for cause by the members by a two-thirds vote at a meeting at which a quorum is present. A director may resign at any time by giving written notice of resignation to PAG. Board vacancies may be filled for the unexpired term of the director who was removed or has resigned by a majority vote of the members.

ARTICLE IX:
COMMITTEES
The President shall appoint, subject to the approval of the Board of Directors, such committees as are deemed necessary to conduct the business of the organization. These committees may consist of members of the Board or members at large.

ARTICLE X:
EXHIBITIONS AND SHOWS
There shall be at least one International show annually and as many regional shows as may from time to time be determined by the Board to be practicable giving considerations to fiscal, geographic and demographic factors, and the availability of host galleries, museums and other appropriate venues.

A. INTERNATIONAL SHOWS
Any Active, Signature, or Master member in good standing may enter the annual show. A three (3) person jurying committee of MSA members shall evaluate entries of Active and SSA members for inclusion. MSA members do not have to be juried into the show.

B. REGIONAL SHOWS
Regional shows are limited to Active members in the region and to Signature or Master Members of any region. A three (3) person jurying committee of MSA members shall evaluate entries of Active and SSA members. MSA members do not have to be juried into the regional show.

ARTICLE XI:
JURYING OF MEMBERSHIP
Section 1
The Jury of Selection for Active, SSA and MSA Membership status shall be elected annually by the membership and shall serve for one year. Only Master Members may serve on the Jury of Selection. From a list of available candidates on the ballot, the three (3) candidates receiving the largest number of votes shall be designated the three (3) member Jury of Selection for that year.
Section 2
The three candidates receiving the next greatest number of votes will be designated as Alternate Jurors, to be called to duty only in the absence of a designated Juror of Selection.
Section 3
No MSA Member may serve on the Jury of Selection more than once in a period of three (3) years. This restriction applies only to those Jurors (including Alternates) who actually serve as members of the Jury of Selection for the membership.
Section 4
Jurying of membership will be completed using digital images provided by the applying member.

ARTICLE XII:
AMENDMENTS
Section 1
Any Signature or Master member in good standing may propose a change to the bylaws. The proposal shall be made in writing, shall state the reasons for and the purposes of the proposed amendment and shall set forth the proposed amendment in the specific language to be used if it is adopted. The Article or the Section to be amended shall be designated.
Section 2
Proposals to amend initiated by a Signature or Master Member shall be received by the Board of Directors not less than sixty (60) days prior to the Annual Business Meeting. The Board shall, not later than fifteen (15) days prior to the Annual Business Meeting, advise the Membership in writing of the proposed amendment(s), including arguments pro and con.
Section 3
Discussion of the proposed amendment(s) shall be included in the agenda of the Annual Business Meeting. Minor changes in the wording of the proposed amendment(s) may be made at that time if acceptable to the initiator.
Section 4
The amendments in the final form shall be included on the ballot sent to the membership following the Annual Business Meeting. An affirmative vote to amend by two-thirds (2/3) of the Signature and Master Members responding and returning the ballot shall be required for passage.

emilycolors
03-09-2011, 02:36 PM
It looks pretty good! You have put a lot of work into this!

Rodman
03-09-2011, 02:59 PM
Outstanding ... I wouldn't trust my word but it looks great to me.

Buggin3
03-09-2011, 03:03 PM
Wow, is that ever thorough!! Looks to me like everything is covered. Like Rod though, I am no expert.

Thanks to all those who put in the hard work to get this started.

theBoardLady
03-09-2011, 03:10 PM
This looks good and reads really well. Great job...:thumbsup:

Celticelf
03-09-2011, 03:13 PM
I cannot imagine anything not being covered. I am awed. Sheba says "excellent!" One ? Article IV, Section 5, B...is it supposed to end with "or" or did something get dropped by accident?

Also - double thank you! Now I am nervous about it :)

emilycolors
03-09-2011, 03:21 PM
Nervous... no kidding! I'm totally on the low end of the totem pole! I'll be lucky to make it to the "active member" status! Hopefully I'll have the extra scratch $$ (ha, ha!) to pay the dues.

Eeeeee.

lorna12
03-09-2011, 03:27 PM
Article IV, Section 5, B...is it supposed to end with "or" or did something get dropped by accident?


ooops...I think this got accidentally dropped...thanks for pointing it out, Terri. Maybe Cathy can wave her magic Mod wand and put this where it belongs.

"C. To remove by a resolution passed by a vote of no less than two-thirds (2/3) of the members of the Board, any committee, either standing or special, or any member thereof, or any officer or member of the Board who fails to attend to their duties under these BY-¬LAWS or for conduct deemed contrary to the aims of ISSA. "

Rodman
03-09-2011, 03:36 PM
Brett!!!!!...I can't believe you missed that!!!! Where were you when we needed you? come on man....join the team, come in for the big win....all we needed you to do was proof read it...and you missed what Terri found? come on!! That might very well be conduct deemed contary to the aims of ISSA!... I'm just say'n

Buggin3
03-09-2011, 03:43 PM
Brett!!!!!...I can't believe you missed that!!!! Where were you when we needed you? come on man....join the team, come in for the big win....all we needed you to do was proof read it...and you missed what Terri found? come on!! That might very well be conduct deemed contary to the aims of ISSA!... I'm just say'n

Sorry guys. :(

Looks like we will have to add another category below Associate member for me. Hopefully one day I can work my way back up to Associate. :)

lorna12
03-09-2011, 03:43 PM
:lol:

MJGresko
03-09-2011, 04:07 PM
I like it. Did you mention what the dues will be? And if a person submits work for an active membership but maybe actually could be signature worthy will they automatically be given the higher status or do you have to re-submit for that. I'm assuming if someone applies for a level too high that they will be given what the jury deems appropriate?

Harry Seymour
03-09-2011, 04:23 PM
Great By-Laws and the drafters are to be commended.

Diane Cutter
03-09-2011, 04:34 PM
I went over it quite thoroughly. It reads well, is clear, and is flexible for future growth.

Marcia... Having been active in the formative stages of another art organization, I think the drafters wise not to have specific figures for dues posted in the By-laws... not because ISSA wants to be mysterious but because with inflation a by-law that states a specific amount is ham-strung if the $$ becomes less valuable. It would need an amendment to up dues and, from the outline of the amendment process, that could be lengthy and cumbersome. And since the organization is subject to the 'will' of the membership, I think we can expect the Board to set dues at reasonable amounts.

I'm thrilled with all the hard work I see here...

Diane

lorna12
03-09-2011, 05:04 PM
Marcia...I don't believe we've settled on an amount for dues yet...As Diane mentioned...we discussed putting the dues amount into the bylaws but decided not to because, should the society want to change the amount in the future it would entail making amendments to the bylaws, each time.

And if a person submits work for an active membership but maybe actually could be signature worthy will they automatically be given the higher status or do you have to re-submit for that. I'm assuming if someone applies for a level too high that they will be given what the jury deems appropriate?

This is just me talking...others can weigh in with their opinions. I believe as part a of the growth process, an artist must also have the confidence in themselves and their work, to apply for the level they feel they best belong. Jurying is a tough enough duty ... to also have to decide FOR an artist doesn't seem proper to me. If an artist is really not sure, there is no reason why they couldn't ask for a little help in deciding what to apply for.

I know this is the way it has been done in the Canadian groups I belong to...a person applies for the level they deem best for them and they are either accepted or declined...period. I have no knowledge of what happens in other countries' groups. It certainly doesn't hinge on me or my opinion, so I'm open to hearing other ideas.

Crias
03-09-2011, 05:46 PM
Thanks for catching that mistake Terri. We stole bits and pieces from lots of different art society by-laws to come up with these (as well as creating parts that are all our own), plus lots of hours for all the people involved discussing and editing. But don't hesitate to point out anything that reads oddly or you don't agree with. Much easier to discuss and change it NOW than after we are fully formed.

As others have said we did not include a dollar amount for dues, so that they could be changed from year to year without having to revise the by-laws.

I am in two art societies where they have differing opinions regarding levels. Society of Animal Artists you submit a set number of images and they choose if you are signature or associate based on the quality of that work alone.

Women Artists of the West starts everyone as an associate and you can gain signature various ways, but everyone starts at the bottom.

Of course in our case we will need some people to 'start at the top' as Master members, as they will have to jury both the show and membership from the get go.

I would propose a panel of three unbiased judges (who are familiar with scratchboard, but it may not be their primary medium and they may not even become ISSA members) for our very initial jurying process to get us that first group of Master members to jump in from there and do further jurying process from then on, rather than just assuming that certain people are automatically Master level. While it may seem silly when we can point fingers and say who you think is or is not a Master by our criterion, but also would prevent anyone later on saying that someone got status because they helped start the society. I know of at least one, and probably two people who I think would be willing to jury for us, and Rod knows someone too.

Also the society is going to need some start up money. I personally would be willing to pay dues for 2011, even if we don't officially launch until 2012. This would give us money for starting up a web site, a bit of promotion, etc. I guess I could sort of see 2011 as a 'soft launch' where we still need to figure out officers and get things sort of rolling along and then a formal hard campaign to get members, have a show, etc. in 2012 with ampersand's backing. If some others were also willing to pay dues for 2011 I think it would be helpful (but then we also need a treasurer to keep track of the money and open an ISSA account) to get us up and going.

emilycolors
03-09-2011, 06:48 PM
Lorna and Cathy, thanks for the explanations!

Please keep us updated as this rolls along.

lorna12
03-09-2011, 06:49 PM
Count me in for dues and for jurying by an impartial panel to start things off. Guess we better decide on how much the dues will be or shall we just make a donation to start with? Since a majority of the members will be from the US I think the bank account should stay in the US... The treasurer will have to be someone we all know and trust.

I am of the opinion that someone should NOT have to jury to become an Associate member, they can just join at that level because they want to be part of the group to learn but they cannot take part in exhibitions. But once someone feels confident enough to want to take part in shows then they apply/submit work for Active (at least). I would count that as the bottom status for jurying purposes whether we do it the way the SSA does and let the jury decide an artist's status or the WAW way.

sandrawillard
03-09-2011, 07:17 PM
This looks fantastic! Thank you for putting such an appreciated effort into it. You guys rock!

Suggestion about the dues - I agree that there shouldn't be a stated amount in the bylaws but what about a bylaw regarding the changing of dues? For instance there could be a bylaw that states that the annual fee cannot be raised more than 10% per year.

I've been in a group where they raised the annual fee 100% from one year to the next and there was a large upset because of it but they could do that since there was no rule in place.

Just a thought. :D

Will the ISSA be a topic discussed at the next get together in Texas?

artbygail
03-09-2011, 08:09 PM
Thank you all for putting these bylaws together, what a tremendous amount of work. Maybe by the time you get the ISSA up and running, I might be able to be good enough to be in lower category. Gail

MJGresko
03-09-2011, 09:24 PM
Well I better get busy and start cranking out some quality boards if I'm going to have to submit 7. Thanks for clearing up my questions. The only society I'm a member of is the local artists guild and it seems like anyone can join so I really have very little knowledge as to how it all works. I wasn't inferring that the dues amount should be in the bylaws, I was just curious if an amount had been decided on.

FoggyMountain
03-09-2011, 09:44 PM
Terrific job on the by-laws. I sure can not think of anything not covered that would be of importance. Something for future thought - will membership cards be given upon receipt of dues? I am also willing to pay 2011 dues to get things started. Can't wait.

Obedec
03-09-2011, 11:22 PM
I'm impressed. But, I also don't see any work here on WC that wouldn't qualify for my version of Master. Could we donate a piece if we can't afford to pay dues?

lorna12
03-10-2011, 12:23 AM
Karen, you don't have to worry about it this year if you can't afford it...Start saving for next year when it's officially up and running.

I don't think I'd be out of line if I say we want to keep the dues down to an affordable level for everyone when we do officially start up. For right now, as Cathy said, we'll need some seed money.

Crias
03-10-2011, 12:26 AM
This looks fantastic! Thank you for putting such an appreciated effort into it. You guys rock!

Suggestion about the dues - I agree that there shouldn't be a stated amount in the bylaws but what about a bylaw regarding the changing of dues? For instance there could be a bylaw that states that the annual fee cannot be raised more than 10% per year.

I've been in a group where they raised the annual fee 100% from one year to the next and there was a large upset because of it but they could do that since there was no rule in place.

Just a thought. :D

Will the ISSA be a topic discussed at the next get together in Texas?

Sandra I think the 10% rule sounds like a good idea.

I am sure we will have a meeting in TX about the society. Maybe we can figure out a way to video chat so that people not attending could join in on the meeting? That would be good since most of the people that were at the meeting in 2010 sounds like will not be in TX :(

lorna12
03-10-2011, 12:53 AM
I could have sworn I posted a reply to Sandra, too...don't see it though.:confused:

I can definitely see why you asked that Sandra...100% sounds ridiculous! How about if we put in a clause that states that any major change regarding the dues of ISSA must pass a vote of 2/3 of the members? I don't like to see a definite amount (ie. 10%) put in because it might turn out that more is required than what was thought (even if it's only 12 or 15%)...then amendments to the bylaws will be needed.

Boy I'm going to hate missing that discussion (in Texas)...I'll have to see what I can figure out for video conferencing.:( bummer.

MuttHut
03-10-2011, 02:03 AM
Wow to think of the time you guys spent on this, many thanks for the hard work. I think it reads very well, I would be willing to put up dues for this year, we have to start off with something to get going.

Wendy

Diane Cutter
03-10-2011, 06:39 AM
I like the by-law idea on controlled raising of dues. I also like the impartial jury to get us started. And I'm another that is happy to contribute this year.

This is such a wonderful beginning...

Diane

MJGresko
03-10-2011, 07:16 AM
I would also be willing to donate this year. I've pretty much decided that any profit that I make on commisions goes to me only so I can use it for anything I want without having to dip into the marital pot. So hopefully any art money will go towards art related things.

Buggin3
03-10-2011, 08:04 AM
Count me in as well for paying 2011 dues if it will help to get things started.

Crias
03-10-2011, 08:58 AM
How about up to 10% change in dues can be made without membership approval, but anything over that must be voted on and approved by the membership?

Diane Cutter
03-10-2011, 09:07 AM
I think 10% is very reasonable.

Diane

Crias
03-10-2011, 11:20 AM
Edited in red to reflect the change in the Dues statement. How does that sound?

pamelalbd
03-10-2011, 11:54 AM
Well you Guys and Girls have been Busy!!! I read through it and it sounds very legaleseieee! :lol:! I have never belonged to any kind of Society let alone one like this so really, I am learning from this and have no knowledge to contribute. In my opinion though it reads well and is clear enough for newbies like myself to comprehend easily.
Thank you all who have put the time and effort into getting this under way and getting us to this stage! You are Pioneers and will be remembered in annals of time as the founders of this Great Society!
Does anybody have any ideas as to how we could raise funds to seed the treasury? So those of us that struggle due to lack of financial excessiveness :lol: in other words, "broke like me". I'm just talking about the initial start up, not the Dues.

sandrawillard
03-10-2011, 11:58 AM
Sounds awesome!

By the way, I didn't notice anything about the removal of a member (although I did see the clause on Directors) should they do something wrong (does that mean we need a code of ethics?).
For example:
- They submit someone else's work to be juried in (or for an annual show) and claim it as their own.
- They falsely represent the organization.

Yeesh, I'm beginning to think I'm the glass is half empty girl in this group! LOL Aw well, I guess it comes from being in a few different organizations where these kinds of things did happen to them.

Crias
03-10-2011, 12:10 PM
Sounds awesome!

By the way, I didn't notice anything about the removal of a member (although I did see the clause on Directors) should they do something wrong (does that mean we need a code of ethics?).
For example:
- They submit someone else's work to be juried in (or for an annual show) and claim it as their own.
- They falsely represent the organization.

Yeesh, I'm beginning to think I'm the glass is half empty girl in this group! LOL Aw well, I guess it comes from being in a few different organizations where these kinds of things did happen to them.

Actually that is in there Sandra:
"C. To remove by a resolution passed by a vote of no less than two-thirds (2/3) of the members of the Board, any committee, either standing or special, or any member thereof, or any officer or member of the Board who fails to attend to their duties under these BY¬LAWS or for conduct deemed contrary to the aims of ISSA."

Harry Seymour
03-10-2011, 12:20 PM
I'm in for 2011 dues. Just let me know how much and to whom to send it.

PaintDog
03-10-2011, 12:46 PM
Impressive work from the by-laws crew!

This stuff generally makes my head spin, but I didn't see anything off the top of my spinning head that needs changing. I agree with the comments/edits made so far.

I do like the idea of letting the jury decide if a member fits into the Associate or Signature category based on the quality of their work. At least in the beginning. Seems like a good way to populate the various membership categories.

Since we don't yet know what dues will be, perhaps folks can offer to chip in a donation of any amount this year, as opposed to calling it "dues". I believe "seed money" was mentioned somewhere. I'm up for helping to plant a few seeds.

sandrawillard
03-10-2011, 12:50 PM
Actually that is in there Sandra:
"C. To remove by a resolution passed by a vote of no less than two-thirds (2/3) of the members of the Board, any committee, either standing or special, or any member thereof, or any officer or member of the Board who fails to attend to their duties under these BY¬LAWS or for conduct deemed contrary to the aims of ISSA."


Excellent! Sorry I missed that! Will the aims of ISSA be defined (or have I missed that somewhere?) so that if a decision were to be made that there isn't any confusion for either party? Would there be an opportunity for a removed member to appeal the decision? Do we care? :P

sandrawillard
03-10-2011, 12:57 PM
If some others were also willing to pay dues for 2011 I think it would be helpful (but then we also need a treasurer to keep track of the money and open an ISSA account) to get us up and going.


Oh and please count me in for dues this year as well! I can't tell you how excited I am about this getting started. :D

ARTMUTT
03-10-2011, 01:05 PM
Very comprehensive. You all did a wonderful job taking into consideration various concerns that were initialy brought up when this idea was just in its infancy. I like the idea of a member being able to work their way to the top, and includes everyone that is interested in scratchboard. I like! Great idea for having an impartial jury for the initial start--very fair. I would be willing to donate as well this year.
Thank you again for taking on this endeavor, the by-law crew deserves a round of applause for their efforts.

Diana Lee
03-10-2011, 01:27 PM
I am of the opinion that someone should NOT have to jury to become an Associate member, they can just join at that level because they want to be part of the group to learn but they cannot take part in exhibitions. But once someone feels confident enough to want to take part in shows then they apply/submit work for Active (at least).I agree with Lorna on this.

I am up for paying dues now, but it will depend on how much.

Diana

Celticelf
03-10-2011, 02:56 PM
I am willing for the dues also - depending on amount :) If not too high I might be able to find a Friend also.

Rodman
03-10-2011, 03:29 PM
I'm with Harry....tell me how much and where to send the bacon.

let me know if you want me to contact Robert Eagerton... in regards to the Jury thing... I would like to add/say... it wont insult me at all...if you dont use Robert.. it just a good solid contact....if needed

I didnt thank all the folks who worked so hard on this....Thanks!

Raffle art for fund raiser? if so...i'll toss something into the kitty

I'm just wondering...if the artist submitting art will need to have a artist statement? i've had shows that wanted one and others that dont.. not that big of deal but if someone doesnt have one..it might be something they can start looking into...

kodik9
03-10-2011, 05:41 PM
Wow...this is so exciting! :clap: I read everything and it seems all good to me! (Some of it I didn't 100% get but it sounded right!) If the society was up and ready at this moment I wouldn't hesitate to join.

I hope you MSB aren't going to be too tough when it comes to jurying artwork for an Active membership...:lol: If not accepted would you give hints on how to improve? :confused: A lot of societies don't and it always makes me a little frustrated because I want to get better to the point of being accepted but it's hard when you don't know what you did wrong....Okay, enough rambling from me :wave:

emilycolors
03-10-2011, 08:05 PM
Rodman... artist statement?! You're really putting the screws to us! LOL! I better get to work!

I like the idea of seed money. I can definitely give a little something to help the cause. Reading through the thread it seems like a lot of people are in for that. Would it be worth designating (or however it should be decided) a treasurer already? ...not me!

PawClaw
03-10-2011, 09:16 PM
Thank you Lorna, Cathy, Patrick, Diana, and Rich for your time and trouble on this time-consuming and complicated project. I'm sure you all would rather be scratching or doing something else with your time. Your efforts and the end product is greatly appreciated by me well as the folks with the numerous comments preceding mine. This is very exciting! Would like to know what the "seed" money amount is. Will help if I can!

artofnature
03-11-2011, 12:22 AM
What a fantastic idea. Thanks to all of those who have worked so hard on this.

I have never been in a society, have only just started exhibiting so am totally lost about juries and jurors, artist statements etc.

As an international, it would love to know what benefits I would receive from joining other than being able to proudly add that I am a member. Just curious due to a great lack of knowledge about this.

lorna12
03-11-2011, 12:49 AM
Rod...excellent point. An artist statement ...every artist who wants to exhibit should have one as well as a bio. If you haven't got one and/or don't know what it is, start googling and git'r done!:D

Eventually, when we get a website up and running we should have our members listed with that info and maybe a couple of their images.

Lesley...just being able to say you're a member should be enough! :lol: (just kidding.) Mostly it's all about the exposure in the world art scene and about getting scratchboard recognized as a fine art form in that world art scene.

Meant to add...that was a good compromise on the dues increases!:thumbsup:

Diane Cutter
03-11-2011, 05:32 AM
An artist statement ...every artist who wants to exhibit should have one as well as a bio. If you haven't got one and/or don't know what it is, start googling and git'r done!:D
WC's General Art Business forum has a lot of threads on artist statements. That is a good place to start... and the kind people there would be helpful if you want a 'critique' of your statements (as well as new websites, blogs, etc.)

Diane

03ahmed
03-11-2011, 08:23 AM
Okay I don't have a clue about societies but everything sounds very thorough!

I would also like to know how much the dues would be in 2011 before donating as I am a skint student.:(

SueR
03-11-2011, 08:40 AM
Looking good...I'm in for whatever you decide to get this going this year and membership for 2012.

annamelia
03-11-2011, 04:18 PM
Obviously a great deal of thought and work has gone into this - thank you, and I would also like to be a member.

Crias
03-11-2011, 06:59 PM
As an international, it would love to know what benefits I would receive from joining other than being able to proudly add that I am a member. Just curious due to a great lack of knowledge about this.

Well they benefits of being a member to a society can be numerous (and these are just off the top of my head)

1) shows/workshops that are exclusively available to members (while some may be physical shows, other shows may be online, which enables sales from there)
2) regional chapters may eventually form, and undoubtedly one of them would be in Australia. We have included a section in the by-laws for regional shows too.
3) eventually an at least quarterly e-newsletter, which will include valuable resources, articles and hopefully eventually coupons for products that might benefit you
4) online promotion - if you are a member you will be listed on the web site as such so when people search for your name or scratchboard and the society page comes up they can find you from that
5) access to brochures and literature about scratchboard which can be handed out at any shows, art fairs, etc. that you attend to help promote and educate others about the medium
6) Building the art resume if you ever want to try and get into galleries or certain other organizations
7) In some collectors eyes being a member of a society at a high level (such as Master) makes your work more valuable, as not only do they like your work, but you are regarded as one of the best within your field by others as well.
8) simply helping to promote something you believe in too!!

aaces
03-11-2011, 07:59 PM
I've read everything and all I can say is...

I'd be glad to pay dues this year to get things going :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
I know that a LOT of work has gone into this and to those who have busted their butts to get this going.....A Big THANK YOU! You guys are awesome!:clap:

artofnature
03-11-2011, 09:22 PM
Thanks Cathy, there is some great info there. Very helpful for those of us who have never had any exposure to this kind of thing. Would be happy to pay my dues this year also to help kick things along. I think the sooner we can get it off and running the better.

Crias
03-11-2011, 09:35 PM
Anyone want to volunteer to be an interim treasurer to collect the seed money? I think setting up a papyal account would be easiest. Probably someone in the US would be better though maybe it doesn't matter?

It would be my opinion that this year 'dues' which will be the seed money should be on a voluntary basis, donate what you can or feel is fair, since obviously all the 'perks' of membership won't be in place yet.

hectorstudio
03-12-2011, 10:42 AM
All the hard work put in by this group is greatly appreciated. A great big THANK YOU.

Count me in for 2011 dues, or for a donation to get this started.

kenmacf
03-12-2011, 11:20 AM
I would be willing to be an interim treasurer, if you trust me :) I am currently setting a paypal account for our local art museum so doing another isn't a stretch and I have the time.
Ken

kodik9
03-12-2011, 12:44 PM
Cathy, thank you for listing all of those awesome perks! I think paypal is the best way to go. It's secure and easy.

PaintDog
03-12-2011, 02:35 PM
Thanks Ken!

I know it's early in the process, but when we have something official to announce, I'll be glad to send info to GNSI (http://www.gnsi.org) (Guild of Natural Science Illustrators). There are quite a few scratchers in GNSI and I think they'd be interested in becoming members of ISSA.

PatrickHedges
03-12-2011, 08:50 PM
Ok, I started this whole process but have been missing in action for a lot of it since, due to my lobster season in full swing - so huge props to those who made it get to this stage :clap: We not only have great scratchers, but we have great givers here too.

I second Ken as interim treasurer :clap:

I also would put money in for seed. Do we have any idea how much we think dues will be or is that a Texas discussion?

I think artists statements with images would be good as part of the application process and am willing to help some people write theirs.

lorna12
03-13-2011, 12:13 AM
Right on Ken for stepping up to the plate. Volunteers are wonderful to have but sometimes very hard to find.

sallymaxwell
03-14-2011, 11:10 AM
Wow, you folks are to be commended. Very thorough job and I agree with not putting specific dues info in the bylaws. Having served on boards, sometimes rules and bylaws hamstring you for incidentals. Hopefully we will also get a website and not have to continually go through "wet canvas". Some of us do not check the site on a daily basis and I'm afraid might miss something. Again, great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:clap:

PatrickHedges
03-14-2011, 04:33 PM
Absolutely Sally, there will be a dedicated website.

kenmacf
03-14-2011, 04:37 PM
I opened a PayPal account today for ISSA. We just need a website to put it on.
Ken

lorna12
03-14-2011, 06:38 PM
In case you haven't noticed, we now have a dedicated sub-forum for ISSA right at the top of this forum. Let's start using that to discuss anything pertaining to ISSA...and folks please read the guidelines for posting in the sub-forum. Thanks a bunch!:D

birdlover
03-14-2011, 07:18 PM
Wow looks great. I'd be willing to kick in money for this year.

Yorky
03-15-2011, 04:15 AM
I'm full of admiration for you guys. Scratchboard is lucky to have such great moderators and guide.

I wish you the very best in your endeavours.

Doug

PatrickHedges
03-15-2011, 11:55 PM
Thanks Doug and thanks for the forum :)

PaintDog
03-17-2011, 02:43 AM
Thanks, Doug :thumbsup:

sandrawillard
03-17-2011, 11:48 AM
Man, I'm always late to the game. In regards to a post Cathy made a little earlier in this thread:
Well they benefits of being a member to a society can be numerous (and these are just off the top of my head)

1) shows/workshops that are exclusively available to members (while some may be physical shows, other shows may be online, which enables sales from there)
2) regional chapters may eventually form, and undoubtedly one of them would be in Australia. We have included a section in the by-laws for regional shows too.
3) eventually an at least quarterly e-newsletter, which will include valuable resources, articles and hopefully eventually coupons for products that might benefit you
4) online promotion - if you are a member you will be listed on the web site as such so when people search for your name or scratchboard and the society page comes up they can find you from that
5) access to brochures and literature about scratchboard which can be handed out at any shows, art fairs, etc. that you attend to help promote and educate others about the medium
6) Building the art resume if you ever want to try and get into galleries or certain other organizations
7) In some collectors eyes being a member of a society at a high level (such as Master) makes your work more valuable, as not only do they like your work, but you are regarded as one of the best within your field by others as well.
8) simply helping to promote something you believe in too!!


I have a number 9 to add to the list!!

9) We could pool our resources and purchase advertising in industry magazines to promote our work/exhibitions that we otherwise could not afford individually

:D

caribouhills
03-23-2011, 07:20 PM
I try not to comment on things of this nature, and maybe I should not say anything now either. “Members must have distinguished themselves and the quality of their work through any or all of the following: national and/or International exhibition history/awards, (or other equally recognized shows or competitions), gallery representation, or may have been published, etc.” Perhaps I do not understand the intention here. Most of the world has internet access now days and an artist can easily be a member of a society or a member of an art community, where they can show their work and improve upon their individual art skills. Yet, this same artist may not have the same access to being published or access to national or international exhibitions or even gallery representation, as other artist, due to geographical restraints. There are also many reasons that some artist may have not participated in such events or have not been published, perhaps timing is an issue, lack of time or even financial difficulties can be a problem for some, etc. Scratch art comes in many different forms and styles, many that we probably have not seen yet and just because an artist cannot distinguish themselves and the quality of their work by national or international shows, gallery representation, or having been published, does not make them any less of a master.

MuttHut
03-23-2011, 07:36 PM
I really agree with you on this Mark. And very well said.

Wendy

lorna12
03-23-2011, 09:02 PM
Mark, I appreciate where you're coming from. Here's my personal take on it. Others may want to weigh in on it.

What distinguishes a Master from a Signature member is their dedication to their art and the promotion of it. In the case of ISSA, we want to promote Scratchboard as a fine art medium...that's our mandate. Everytime someone is published or distinguishes themselves winning awards, they are letting the world know that scratchboard is here and worthy of notice.

You said it yourself..."Most of the world has internet access now days and an artist can easily be a member of a society or a member of an art community, where they can show their work and improve upon their individual art skills."

I will just speak for myself here....I have lived rural for all of my art career but I haven't let it stop me from advancing myself or promoting my work. I have entered shows all over for years...it takes a lot of work, time and money to do... I was confident that I had something to offer the art world. I didn't win something every time I entered but I couldn't let that stop me. I kept at it and it started to pay off. Along the way my work got noticed, I had work in galleries, I got published in magazines...they found me, not the other way around. I worked my way from the bottom, through the ranks of an organization I am so proud to be a part of...making SFCA (equivalent of MSA) in the Federation of Canadian Artists was one of the proudest days of my life. I did it entirely with my scratchboard work...and it's now recognized by the FCA as fine art because of it. I felt my hard work and dedication had paid off.

That's what a person with MSA after their name should have been through...it's an achievement to strive for. That's what will give scratchboard legitimacy in the world of FINE Art.

Garbonzo
03-23-2011, 09:15 PM
I agree 100 percent with Marks comment. I believe that it's entirely possible for some one to develop their skills to an elite level without being required to validate them either through seeking out literary notoriety, gallery representation or the expense and effort often required to get their artwork to these distant national/international competitions.

lorna12
03-23-2011, 10:13 PM
That's why there are 2 levels of Signature member, one for excellent artists and another for those that push themselves to a higher level of total artistic achievement.

Harry Seymour
03-23-2011, 10:25 PM
The reasons for having Masters seems sound. It promotes the very best of what scratchboard represents. Indeed there needs to be valid criteria for selecting Masters. These criteria can certainly include objective measures as gallery representation, published, etc, but it seems to me also should be flexible enough so that an accomplished group of scratchboard members (could be Masters who constitute a Jury ) can also decide a scratchers status solely on the quality of his/her work as determined by that jury. Such individuals for whatever reasons may have not exposed themselves to the more objective criteria. The quality of the work should be the final measure and not exclusively a resume of accomplishments.

PatrickHedges
03-23-2011, 10:56 PM
I think anyone who attains 'signature' or 'master' has already paid their dues as an artist. I do agree with Lorna in the difference being the promotion of the art form. I'm sure there's more than a few scratchboard artists out there who are totally brilliant at what they do, probably better than any of us, but if no one knows about them, they aren't promoting much at all. This kind of person can attain signature level if they are so good because there is no stipulation other than 'advanced scratchboard skills', but a master should be out there on the hunt to get the best out of this medium not just for themselves but for others too (and the reality is that whilst I can think of some on the board who will definitely get to this level, no one is guaranteed it).

And let's not forget that signature member is the top level member in many organisations and carries an awful lot of kudos with it. It's just that we are adding 'master' for extra reasons.

I would suggest that when people start putting in applications, any teaching history should be added to any awards etc etc.

Harry Seymour
03-23-2011, 11:04 PM
Now I get it. The significant and overriding criterion for a Master is "recognition," i.e., national and/or international. Hence, only objective criteria are possible.

Diana Lee
03-24-2011, 12:01 AM
Lorna explains the definition of a Master...What distinguishes a Master from a Signature member is their dedication to their art and the promotion of it. We do need a way to make a distinction between artists who have talents and amazing abilities and artists with those same qualities and are dedicated to their art and the promotion of it. Artists that take it one step further. And remember that once a Signature member is offerred the chance to be in shows and to promote themselves through this society they can raise themselves to the level of Master. What level you start with in ISSA is not a brand for life.
I thought the main reason for forming ISSA was to promote Scratchboard not just show the world how good we are. Though I belive in the process we are going to knock the worlds socks off.

Anyway that's how I feel about it

Diana

Garbonzo
03-24-2011, 12:06 AM
My thoughts on this are purely on principle and not to diminish or elevate the road one chooses for their artwork since each artist must travel their own path. I must say that I very much admire and envy those artists that have reached the pinnacles of the artworld, receiving the ribbons and accolades that they worked so hard for and so justly earned. I say that with all sincerity. I also say that the quality of the work should be the final determination and not the frame it's in, so to speak. I use a very silly but very real example to illustrate my thinking, at least I think it does. The art league in my town separates amateurs from professionals with a set of criteria. One criteria is if you make 50% of your income from selling art, you can be considered a professional instead of an amateur so if one worked part time flipping burgers or sweeping floors one could call themself a professional artist and compete with those artists holding art degrees, those teaching art for compensation and those full time professional artists. If one had a job that paid very well one would have to continue competing as and calling themself an amateur. The quality of one's work is not a factor. I see the same thing here. The quality of work seems secondary to the time, effort and money spent showing it. My intent is not to lessen the value of self promotion and all the wonderful accomplishments that validate one's talent and hard work. I just don't think that lack of awards necessarily determines one's mastery of the medium.:) Just an opinion.

caribouhills
03-24-2011, 12:17 AM
Thank you Lorna, for your explanation. I am not sure, but I would also think that it would be quite possible to have Master status in ISSA without ever really promoting the medium. I am not sure but I think that most of us, maybe not all of us on this forum learned of scratchboard art right here, as a fine art medium. I admire that you lived remote, raised a family, had a career and still was able to promote yourself and your art as you have. You see, my problem is I can not promote my own art work, I don't have the personality for it, nor do I have the time. I have always believed that if I can do it right, then don't do it at all. My concerns lie with the younger artists, that are very talented but may not have the time, the finances to promote themselves as needed. From a very young age I have dreamed of being a professional artist, spending every possible minute creating art for others to enjoy. My dream is still only a dream. Let ISSA be a society that helps, encourages and promotes their talented members and the medium. Each of us work in a very special and unique medium, that has unlimited possibilities. I hope that this society will be the same. I will comment no more about this...deal.

Diana Lee
03-24-2011, 12:27 AM
I hear ya, Harold. And I agree with you. However it is my understanding here that we are not saying the difference is one of a professional vs amateur. The difference here is one great artist promotes themselves and their art and the other great artist does not. I also believe it is being said here that it is ok NOT to promote if you don't want to or can't it does not diminish your abilities as an artist. Is the objection here that we are calling someone who promotes themselves and scratchboard a Master? Is it the use of the word Master? Or is the issue that we shouldn't have different levels at all?

Diana

PatrickHedges
03-24-2011, 01:24 AM
The quality of one's work is not a factor. I see the same thing here. The quality of work seems secondary to the time, effort and money spent showing it. My intent is not to lessen the value of self promotion and all the wonderful accomplishments that validate one's talent and hard work. I just don't think that lack of awards necessarily determines one's mastery of the medium.:) Just an opinion.
Harold (and Mark), I too hear you but in relation to your quoted comment, this is covered by having the honorary membership. A 'Master' will never be someone who works hard to promote the art but doesn't quite have the quality. That won't happen because the person trying to be 'master member' has to submit art to be judged by independent judges just like the others. In fact they have to submit more to show they can be at that level consistently. The honorary member need not even be an artist so that's where lack of quality can apply. :)

Garbonzo
03-24-2011, 01:52 AM
Diana, forgive me, I really just don't know when to keep my mouth shut. Please understand that I don't have a problem with levels and the opportunity for members to elevate their stature in the society as their skills improve. I don't entertain thoughts of being considered a master scratcher. I know very well that I have too much to learn to go there. I feel very strongly that being a Master Scratchboard Artist has nothing to do with self promotion or dedication. A master work speaks to the quality of a work not how many awards it has received and I don't know if I'm really dedicated to scratchboard but I do know that I am OBSESSED with it. But that's neither here nor there. I think that there should be a level for those elite scratchers that enter their work in a lot of big shows and do well, but it shouldn't be called a master's level. Doing so prevents individuals that reach that skill level from ever being admitted to it unless they start entering a variety of big shows. This can be quite expensive. It's my understanding that the society will have an annual show and this is an international one I believe so even if one would win that they still might not qualify for a Master level even if they had the skills. Diana, I really believe that there should be a level just for the elite artist's that promote themselves by showing their work a lot in the big shows and thus promote the medium. It just shouldn't be called a Master level. Please understand that I don't mean to offend anyone, especially the good friends that I have made here on WC. I just don't know when to keep my big mouth shut.

Garbonzo
03-24-2011, 02:01 AM
Patrick, I firmly believe that anyone that is selected to the master level will truly deserve it because of the quality of the work. What I was refering to was the artist that produces master quality work but will never be able to say they are a master scratchboard artist in this organization because they don't actively promote themself. They only promote the medium by promoting themself. Please forgive me, I've said too much and should have gone to bed hours ago.

PatrickHedges
03-24-2011, 02:08 AM
Harold, you never say too much. Don't be hard on yourself, and don't stop speaking up because it's all new anyway, and it's only be people raising things that we pinpoint all the issues.

So your main objection is the word "Master", is that right? Or are you wishing there be no level above "signature"?

Rodman
03-24-2011, 07:52 AM
I've read up and im pondering my reply. EVERYONE has a voice here...

Rodman
03-24-2011, 08:12 AM
The master scrather thread was closed but I wanted to toss out another idea... rather than the officers judging in the masters ( if we go that way )... how about being voted in by our peers?. ..after all...who knows more about what is happening in SB ( in Wet canvas ....remembering that there are many fine SB artist outside of here...that havnt found us yet.) Than the artist working in here...they have been exposed to some of the finest work being produced on this surface.....so far. Its just an idea... im for majority rules

This might erase the people judging themselves in issues

PatrickHedges
03-24-2011, 10:00 AM
Rod, that shouldn't be a problem since we are looking to get one or two totally independent judges to vote the first three masters in, and then those three will do the rest of the judging. Those three will be peers anyway and they will definitely not have been voted in by themselves.

Diana Lee
03-24-2011, 10:27 AM
Oh Harold, you dear friend. You could never offend me so no need to appologize. Our disagreement is one of semantics. I take it you would feel better if we changed the name from Master to something else.
You are one of the best scratchers I know. And I am not saying this to politely bolster your ego. I mean it. And never stop speaking your mind!!!

Diana

emilycolors
03-24-2011, 10:27 AM
Hmm... I'm sure there's a solution to be found.

I completely understand Harold's thought on this issue. It can be frustrating to think that you can never attain to the level of Master if you just don't have the time and money to put into it. I, myself, have a very limited budget - almost all my art supplies are bought with gift money. I can't justify spending all kinds of money to get my art into galleries when I have little bellies to keep full.

I don't have any objections to the way Masters are defined. I do think that "Signature" sounds a little wimpy and lacking in some of the respect that it ought to carry. Perhaps "Expert" would more accurately reflect the level of artistic precision.

That being said, I do think it is worthy and right of us to give extra honor to those who have promoted scratchboard as a fine art in the art scene, given that in some sense we are riding on their coat tails and in that it is the purpose of the society to promote scratchboard as fine art. We are not diminished in giving them this honor but we are enhanced.

emilycolors
03-24-2011, 10:47 AM
Ha! Signature sounds like a credit card offer. Maybe that's why I'm not too keen on it!!:lol:

PatrickHedges
03-24-2011, 11:07 AM
There's a classy boat builder over here that has a "Signature" series which they believe is elite. I guess I've seen 'signature' in many societies and it immediately makes me think of a higher level so for me, it seems a good name.

Garbonzo
03-24-2011, 12:20 PM
Diana, thank you, I am so happy I didn't make you angry and hopefully no one else either as that was far from my intent. I hope that this is my last comment on this because I really didn't want to create a conflict or add difficulty to the progress that has been made. Patrick, I wanted to answer your question but it was 1:00 a.m. when I shut off the computer last night, too late for this old man. I want to make it very clear that I don't have a problem with anything that has transpired with the ISSA to this point. I think everyone should be commended for their hard work and willingness to help make the society a legitimate honorable organization. However the first Master level members are chosen is fine with me. I honestly feel that anyone selected for that level very justly deserves it. They will truly be masters of the medium. My fear is that some very deserving individuals will never be accepted as Masters of the medium regardless of how good their work is simply because they lack the resources or are inhibited personally in promoting themselves or their art. There are many ways to promote our medium, demos, classes,word of mouth, etc. not just high profile competitions. Ampersand makes the best work surface for our creations, in my humble opinion and without it I most likely would not be here writing this. It is, however, not cheap and if you choose to show your work anywhere very far away you must add the cost of framing your work, packaging and shipping costs, insuring your work and any entry fees required, etc. on top of the cost of the board you use. Some, including myself, do not have the extra funds to be able to promote ourselves even if we wanted. I feel that the master level as it stands both discourages and penalizes some individuals for things out of their control and since the master level is the only level that is considered competent to jury membership and exhibitions then a signature member skills are not considered adequate even though they might be the best scratcher in the world but aren't masters simply because they don't promote themselves. So, I guess I do have a problem with the word master for that level. With those requirements of noteriety, as it stands, should may be called something else more appropriate than simply Master level. IMHO:)

emilycolors
03-24-2011, 12:40 PM
Aww, Patrick...! Are you going to make me rethink my perception of "signature"? ;)

Harold, what title would you suggest other than Master?

Garbonzo
03-24-2011, 12:43 PM
I wish I were more eloquent. It's always easier to pull a tiger's tail than to get away afterwards. :lol:

caribouhills
03-24-2011, 12:49 PM
Hmmmm........looks like I was more exhausted than I thought, when I made my last post. Sorry about that.

I truly do appreciate all of the time and effort that has been put into starting ISSA and I have no doubt that it will do very well under the guidance of the board.

FoggyMountain
03-24-2011, 04:18 PM
Are those 3 requirements for Master category a standard used in other art genres? If so, you may want to keep them so there is some close standards to other art organizations. Maybe the intent is to only have a few at the very top, hence the stricter guidelines....If not, maybe they can be made less stringent on the requirements.

PatrickHedges
03-24-2011, 05:38 PM
Levels are funny sometimes. For example, in the SAA, Cathy applied to become a member and was granted Signature status immediately. I know she was surprised (though we ALL know the reason she got in so high - her work is freakin' magnificent!!). However, I note that there are many amazing artists who only got Associate status, none more weird than Guy Combes who I consider as fine an artist as there could be. It's all in the eye of the beholder. Plus, in there I think Signature members end up having to pay more per year (and it's not cheap at all - that's why I haven't applied though I'd love to be in SAA)

PatrickHedges
03-24-2011, 06:43 PM
There's an awful lot to discuss on the board to get things going. We are going to be having our first official meeting very soon, beaming around the world since we are truly international, and will be discussing many matters so we'll take all this into account, and checking we are doing many similar things to other societies but also being distinguishable as ourselves, since scratchboard is such a unique medium. As such, I'm closing this thread so we can move on to the next stage. Thanks very much for the input and for speaking your mind in such a friendly way. There will always be some disagreements in forming something so huge and we on the board will need to be able to understand that these happen. Disagreements are good because they make certain we cover all bases.

If people have questions about anything, please feel free to ask in the questions thread that is still open :)