View Full Version : Tiny Dancer Redux
03-04-2011, 03:35 PM
Well, since I was on a roll with redoing pieces I thought I would try another "Tiny Dancer". Poor little thing got damaged. I will never be able to show her, though I have shown prints and the image, repaired on the computer, has been used by Ampersand. When Rodman was visiting last year we tried several repair techniques on a spare board, but none worked well enough to make Tiny Dancer 100%. So here we go again.
This is an 18x24 board and so far all I have used is a scalpel. And, by the way, I ordered new blades from Amazon and though they were called #11 scalpel blades they were shaped differently. They had a rounded tip instead of a point! RATS!!:(
03-04-2011, 04:21 PM
Damaged...that's terrible! I'll take it off your hands, if you like, since you're redoing anyway. :D;)
I recently got a picture of my granddaughter at her ballet class...she's wearing the same polka dot outfit...wonder if that standard at all ballet classes? :D
03-04-2011, 04:46 PM
She's gorgeous. Such a shame she was damaged. But it would be lovely to hang on your wall when she is finished. Any room there though!
03-04-2011, 05:28 PM
Diana, this sketch is lovely and will be even more lovely and special when finished.
Over the years, I have had the odd painting damaged, one sprayed with furniture polish by helpful son doing his Saturday chores, one painting where higher to lower price tag was changed in an art show, one lifted in a burglary, and in 2 separate incidents burned in house fires. Sorry to hear that yours was damaged, I relate with you and know how sad and empty that feels.
But this sketchboard piece when finished will be very much appreciated. Gail
03-04-2011, 05:35 PM
This is so special and I understand why you want it perfect. Great start.
03-04-2011, 06:50 PM
Sorry to hear that the board was damaged beyond repair. :( I remember seeing this piece on the Ampersand advertising.
Looks like you are off to a perfect start though on Tiny Dancer Part 2. :thumbsup:
03-04-2011, 07:24 PM
I'm not sure I'd ever do a piece again so massive kudos to you!!
03-04-2011, 07:53 PM
a beautiful piece....too bad we couldnt make it 100%. The bright side is...we getta see you do it again...
Question... are you using the damaged board as the ref. or the photo? Both? IF your using the damaged board....how is that? doing a SB drawing from a SB drawing?.....im curious
03-05-2011, 12:50 AM
Gorgeous Diana, her face just glows!
03-05-2011, 02:00 PM
Thanks Lorna, you are a hoot!! I don't know if it is standard. My "First Day At The Barre" had all three girls in different outfits.:wink2:
Thank you Lesley, Yup, I am running out of room!:lol:
Thanks Gail, Yes, I too, have had a scratchboard stolen right off the exhibiting wall!! I was working on a Native American and my cat sprayed it. No saving it after that. Usually damage done is done by me. I recently dropped a can of fixative on a piece while I was spraying, made a dent!:o
Thank you Harry!:D
Thank you Patrick! I once did an oil painting three time because I wanted it for myself, but every time I painted it someone would make me an offer I couldn't refuse!:D
Thanks Rodman! Actually I am using both and there really isn't that much difference between the two. A reference is a reference.
Thank you Ann! I am having fun with this!;)
03-05-2011, 08:26 PM
"First day at the Barre" looks like practice outfits while the pink polka dots might be first recital....could be, who knows?:D
03-05-2011, 09:44 PM
Yep Lorna, I'll bet that's right!
03-06-2011, 12:56 AM
Another great piece in the offing .
03-06-2011, 09:49 PM
So glad you're redoing this Diana; it is really special.
03-07-2011, 02:24 PM
She is looking great; second time is the charm.
03-11-2011, 05:14 PM
Thank you Lynn and Angela!
Here is the latest photo. Keep in mind that none of it is done. One arm is in the ugly stage and the other is on it's way to being done. Have I mentioned yet how much I miss my scanner? I am not a photographer! This one looks a bit blurry and not like the real piece.
03-11-2011, 05:28 PM
It is coming along beautifully-needless to say. Actually, in some respects more can be learned from the "ugly' stage which shows how you get from point A (Aspiration) to point C (Completion).
03-11-2011, 05:32 PM
oh yeah...oh sooo ugly! :lol: But we know how beautiful it is going to end up.
03-11-2011, 05:48 PM
Thank you Harry. I see you left out point "B", for "Buggers!" Why isn't this piece going from point "A" to point "C" more smoothly?!
Thanks Lorna. I would love to show close-ups of the ugly part, but my photo is too blurry!
03-11-2011, 07:25 PM
Diana Diana Diana....Gosh I wish Icould work like this... you just floor me.
03-11-2011, 07:41 PM
You forget I have seen you do works like the one you produced in our first wc challenge, the girl riding a horse. I figure it is a lot easier for you to do something like that then it would be for me to do something "Rodman" like.
03-11-2011, 11:11 PM
This one looks a bit blurry and not like the real piece.
So.....It looks even BETTER in person? :eek::eek::eek::eek:
As usual Diana......I love it!
03-11-2011, 11:49 PM
Diana....you could do what I do with both your eyes tied behind your back! I couldn't do that piece!
03-12-2011, 12:01 AM
Diana: As beautiful as per usual, your "UGLY" stages are just fine, on the other hand my "UGLY" stages arn't for public view LOL. I admire your dedication to this piece, it deserves to be reborn.
03-12-2011, 03:22 AM
Oh bonkers, ignore this one too! Stupid internet connection . . . :confused:
03-12-2011, 03:23 AM
Ignore this . . . I had an internet glitch and it double posted!
03-12-2011, 03:24 AM
I honestly can't imagine re-doing a piece, especially one with that much detail and the amount of time it must take! It's "one and done" as far as I'm concerned. But I'm sure glad you are re-doing it Diana, so we can see it come to life!!!
The comparison between the arms is intriguing - how you go from sections to smoothness - just wonderful.
03-12-2011, 11:11 AM
Thank you Allan!
Thanks Rodman! You are funny! Some time we should try to do a piece in each other's style. Should prove interesting.
Thank you Wendy!
Thanks Ann. I think your computer has a stutter. "One and Done", I like that! It is actually quite common for me to repeat a piece, but usually it is more like starting over, because of poor sizing choice or an uncorrectable mistake. However I have, at least a dozen times, made a second (or even a third) reproduction. Just to have another or was commissioned to recreate a piece that had already been sold.
03-12-2011, 11:30 AM
Deal....... how do we do this?..
03-12-2011, 12:10 PM
Rod, I like this. Kind of a two person challenge! I am up for that! I can't do anything right now, but I think I can start work next week and produce a piece in two or three weeks. Does that work for you?
03-12-2011, 12:19 PM
Sure..ha..what have I gotten myself into?.... rules? Can I lean on other artist? Are you going to give me my ref.?.. do I need to give you something?... I just wanna know the rules so I can take delight in figuring out a way to cheat.
03-12-2011, 01:44 PM
Rod, no rules! If you need to lean, lean all you want. I don't want to do this as a WIP. I will just do my piece and post it when ever you are ready. As for giving each other ideas or reference material perhaps it is time to move this to comunicating through email or PMs. We will just show up in 2 or 3 weeks with what we have done.
03-12-2011, 02:01 PM
I took a quick look at your website, which I know for a couple of years now, namely the animal's gallery.
It's impossible not to want them all :-)
Diana's comment: an uncorrectable mistake...
You do that!!!
Of course I love what you are creating now, and I like the fact that you left one arm for us to see before it gets smoothed out.
03-12-2011, 03:36 PM
Thank you Josť!!
Thanks Dusty! I have a closet full of 'em. I keep the boards to practice on.
03-22-2011, 12:52 PM
Here's the latest scan. I don't think she is done yet, but I will move on to work on her dress.
03-22-2011, 01:14 PM
Indeed it is a beauty.
03-22-2011, 02:20 PM
Something about the face really bothered me, I adjusted the eyes once, but I felt I lost them again. Using layers I put the reference image over my piece's image, (just the face) and on a separate layer I drew lines around the eyes of the reference. After hiding the reference layer I could see what was what. Yup, I lost them again. Her right eye (on our left) is too high. Dang, I hate this part! Today I will try to fix that.
03-22-2011, 02:48 PM
It'll be a great WIP repair... plenty o pix?
03-22-2011, 03:39 PM
She's lovely... you can really feel that sincere reach of hers, so dedicated even at that young age...
03-22-2011, 07:17 PM
You can't even notice it Diana. In fact, I am still looking for the flaw. Such a beautiful piece it would be such a shame to change it and run the risk of messing it up a bit. Persionally, I would leave it. Love the shading and the way her straps cut in slightly on the shoulders. So cute
03-22-2011, 08:15 PM
She definitely is cute. I can't wait to see how you go with the fix. I've done them before and usually they've worked out so I'm sure you'll do great.
03-22-2011, 09:26 PM
I never saw the original so now I watch this one take shape. Beautiful so far. Does spraying the finished piece really do much to protect scratchart? What is everyones favorite finishing spray?
03-23-2011, 04:25 AM
To be honest I thought that eye was higher because her head is tilted ever so slightly.
03-23-2011, 09:06 AM
Diana, you are providing a wonderful lesson on perfection. We all realize that perfection is unattainable but we strive nevertheless to achieve it.
03-26-2011, 08:38 PM
Sorry Rod, I didn't take any WIP pictures of the repair. I didn't read this until too late.
Aw, thanks Diane.
Thanks Lesley! I did the repair and I feel better about it, but I bet most won't see the difference. Mostly because the images on the forum are so small. You would have seen the flaw had you seen it in person.
Thank you Patrick! It wasn't too difficult, but I really don't like doing it!
Thank you Fay, I feel safe with spraying and displaying with no glass. I use Ampersand spray and Krylon Matte.
Well, Lorna, you are partly right. Her head is tilted. But the eye was off more than was necessary to make her head look tilted.
Harry, ain't it the truth!?!
Here is the latest scan, and a before and after of her face.
03-26-2011, 08:40 PM
You are such a perfectionist Diana. You are right. I would not have noticed any difference but may have if I saw it in person. Beautiful subject and scratching!!!
03-26-2011, 11:05 PM
Seeing it side by side like that, I can see it...great fix, my friend!:thumbsup:
03-27-2011, 04:31 AM
This is such a beautiful piece Diana, and if you wouldn't have pointed out the fix noone would have noticed, but I know....... you know it is there and you just have to make it right, a job well done.
03-27-2011, 09:47 AM
That's amazing. If you measure the eye on the nose, you don't notice it, but from eye to eye, you do. That's a brilliant fix!!!
03-27-2011, 10:50 AM
Yes I see it. The difference is a difference that makes a difference--particularly to the artist.
03-27-2011, 07:46 PM
Diana great piece ...great repair..great example ... not enough pix ( next time ) :) I would have probably left the "out eye "and move the whole rest of the face...I can't believe you took the easy way out ...ha!
03-27-2011, 08:41 PM
There's a challenge for you Rodman. How about the dancer with only one eye!!!
03-28-2011, 02:59 AM
There's a challenge for you Rodman. How about the dancer with only one eye!!!
:lol: :lol: Oh Lesely, his imagination is wild enough, but I am sure you got the wheels turning for a new piece.
03-28-2011, 04:26 AM
I dare him Wendy!!!!
03-28-2011, 06:44 AM
Thankyou, Diana for the privilege of watching you work! This, as I have mentioned before is one of those occasions where I would like to have the necessary resources to be able to fly to the States and Canada and lean over the shoulders of our top scratchers and watch them work. For now I will have to be thankful for and with WC!
03-28-2011, 12:04 PM
After seeing the side by side comparison, the change really did make a big difference. Great fix too!! You can't even tell that the eye had to be moved.
04-23-2011, 02:19 PM
Thank you all for hanging in there with this. I really don't like to do major repairs (like her eye), but they don't scare me like they used to.
This poor little girl has been so neglected so I worked on her a bit. She is so close to being done. A few touchups on the ribbon that is her tutu and a little cleaning up. I actually like this better than the first one.
Here is the latest scan. The next post I make should be the finished piece and I will include some closeups.
Hey Rod, instead of a dancer with one eye how about one eye dancing? In a tutu?
04-23-2011, 02:38 PM
Oh, Diana, what a special piece. Everything about it is grand. The correction did make a difference and you pulled it off to perfection. Your scratching is so fine and beautiful. The dancer is adorable and charming and the dress/tutu is fantastic. The strong contrast makes this piece sparkle. Excellent!
04-23-2011, 07:28 PM
. let both do.....let's ALL do a dancing eyeball in a tutu.
04-23-2011, 07:38 PM
WOW, she was beautiful the first time and she's looks just as beautiful the second time around. :clap: :thumbsup:
let's ALL do a dancing eyeball in a tutu.
Rod, I'll do Mike Wazowski...:lol:
04-23-2011, 08:17 PM
Diane, he lost his tutu! Poor Mike.
04-23-2011, 09:51 PM
This would have to be my favourite of yours Diana. It's hard to choose because there are so many of them. But the drama, the lighting, textures and scratching on this one are surreal. Ooh I love that ribbon around the skirt.
04-23-2011, 10:20 PM
She's a beauty Diana!
"...let's ALL do a dancing eyeball in a tutu."
Rod...I'll take that challenge.
04-23-2011, 10:42 PM
Brilliant work Diana yet again! You say you like this one better than the last, my question is how did you improve on perfection...this has always been a favourite of mine....I think my favourite part of the whole board is the babyish neck and underarms...the little girl chub elbows and hands....l just love how you have captured the baby in child that is trying so hard to be the grown up ballerina, that by the look on her face she will inevitably be. :clap:
04-24-2011, 03:12 AM
Your work always amazes me and this is no exception.
04-24-2011, 09:10 PM
Absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for the closeups too. Your expertise is astounding.
04-25-2011, 04:53 AM
Can't praise this one enough Diana!!
04-25-2011, 11:06 AM
Great fix Diana - good eye! (har har!)
04-25-2011, 07:41 PM
05-12-2011, 12:43 PM
Thank you Sammy!:wave:
Thank you Lesley! Let's just hope I don't muck it up spraying it like I did the first one!:crossfingers:
Thank you Pamela!:heart: That's exactly what I was going for!
Thank you Lynn:D
Thank you Patrick!;)
Thanks Natalie, you are a goof.:rolleyes:
Thank you Irfan!:wave:
Well, I do believe she is done. All that is left is to spray it. (I really don't want to:( )
05-12-2011, 12:46 PM
Diana--it is gorgeous. Make sure you shake the spray can for 2 minutes as instructed. I find that it makes a difference in the spray.
05-12-2011, 01:01 PM
Beautiful finish Diana.
05-12-2011, 01:32 PM
Thank you Harry for the advice, I am sure I don't shake it enough at times, but the problem I had with the first one was I dropped the can on the board and damaged it, and then tried to smooth it while it was still wet. So what I need to remember is to hang on to the stupid can while I am spraying! :eek: :(
05-12-2011, 06:48 PM
05-12-2011, 08:01 PM
I LOVE the way you did the wee bit to bring out the whole skirt! Incredible!!!!
05-13-2011, 02:29 AM
I missed the whole part about the eye surgery - you have the precision of a surgeon, Diana - it worked out perfectly. And the finished piece is superb!!!!
05-13-2011, 04:22 AM
Superb once again, Diana. She's just lovely and your work excellent as always!
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