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Johannes Instructor
02-26-2011, 06:05 PM
Draw, paint a perfect oval about 6 to 8 inches tall. Then by painting backwards or negative painting cut out the shapes visually until you end up with an abstract tree shape. Also do this for an evergreen. Draw or paint a perfect triangle. Then paint negatively until you form the evergreen tree. Remember in my classes I have said that if the shape is to be abstract both sides have to be different and not repeat protrusions or indentations. Try not to work on the positive shape. Work as much as you can on the negative shape. In the beginning your mond will rebel but you will see that like magic you will start to produce interesting designs.

Jerry Bridgers
02-26-2011, 06:41 PM
#1 is the oval:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/74643-Ov1.jpg

#2 is the inverted Triangle:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/74643-T1.jpg

#3 is a combination oval above triangle:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/74643-c1.jpg

Interesting exercise - good day

pjsammy
02-26-2011, 07:03 PM
A bit messy...http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/182739-oval_and_triangle.jpg

Davkin
02-26-2011, 07:22 PM
Not exactly the prettiest trees but I think the pretty much comply with the purpose of the exercise;

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/201970-oval_exercise.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/201970-Triangle_exercise.JPG

It was fun to do, time kinda flew by. I think the right brain really enjoys the work out.

David

oils4me
02-26-2011, 08:07 PM
This was hard for me...did I say very hard...great exercise, not sure I did it, think it looks more like ink blots, but it was fun and obviously something I need to practice....thanks Johannes and Ken for another AWESOME class!!!

hungry4art
02-26-2011, 08:22 PM
Here are my two. THis was harder than I thought. I will have to practice more!http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/120152-tree-wipeout.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/120152-tree-triangle-wipe-out.gif

middo
02-26-2011, 08:32 PM
I enjoyed that exercisehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/130084-Oval__Trriangle_Shapes.jpg

Misty Mountain
02-26-2011, 08:44 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/54780-trees_ss.jpg

Nansketch
02-26-2011, 09:11 PM
Tho mine don't really look like trees --

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/141858-ls-abs1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/141858-ls-abs2.jpg

Nancy

Yabut
02-26-2011, 09:30 PM
I hope I did better than last week.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/52194-oval_cutout1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/52194-cutout_triangle.jpg

Sienna black
02-26-2011, 09:30 PM
Here is my attempt. I am Sonia, a Canadian wanting to know where you teach.Thanks for all the lessons. I just can't seem to download my homework! I did it in paint, but Wet Canvas does not accept it.

tvandeb
02-26-2011, 09:47 PM
Here's my attempt, with grapite pencils. :o http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/71359-scan0001.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-26-2011, 09:52 PM
This was hard for me...did I say very hard...great exercise, not sure I did it, think it looks more like ink blots, but it was fun and obviously something I need to practice....thanks Johannes and Ken for another AWESOME class!!!
The idea is to end up with abstract designs. The tree shape on the left is symmetrical.

mozapony
02-26-2011, 10:00 PM
pos-neg shapes, an interesting exercise
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/133246-class5_neg-pos_oval_shape.jpg
.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/133246-class5_neg-pos_triangle_shape.jpg

Thanks for the insight into the mind's rebellion.
.
rgds
Sandee

sue burke
02-26-2011, 10:13 PM
674282

allydoodle
02-26-2011, 10:49 PM
This was difficult, but a fun exercise as well. I enjoyed challenging my brain. I think I will do this more, as it will probably become more natural. It's definitely more creative!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/93075-negative_tree.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/93075-negative_pine_tree.JPG

Johannes Instructor
02-26-2011, 10:59 PM
Here is my attempt. I am Sonia, a Canadian wanting to know where you teach.Thanks for all the lessons. I just can't seem to download my homework! I did it in paint, but Wet Canvas does not accept it.
I attached the handout in everyone's email. I am in Hamilton, Ontario

luvs2paint1
02-26-2011, 11:15 PM
Here are mine.
Guess not. I viewed the video on uploading images, everything works great except when I click on the image after uploading it, the code does not go into my message. I'll try again tomorrow.:crying:

Tresgatos
02-26-2011, 11:18 PM
Thank you for the lesson for today. :clap: I feel like I've learned a lot but am not sure if it has transferred to my drawing at this point. Following is my attempt at the oval (cut out) and the triangle (India ink).

Barbara

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/113757-Oval.jpg

OVAL FLIPPED HORIZONTALLY

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/113757-Oval-flipped_horizontally.jpg


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/113757-Triangle.jpg


TRIANGLE FLIPPED HORIZONTALLY

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/113757-Triangle_-_flipped_horizontally.jpg

Grainne
02-26-2011, 11:53 PM
This was not as easy as it looked when you did it! :D :D


Tree Shape

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/28471-Tree_Shape.jpg


Evergreen Shape
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/28471-Evergreen.jpg


Grainne "Kaye"

Pinklady219
02-27-2011, 12:02 AM
Well, that was fun! :lol:Funtastic!! Here are mine Johannes :clap:

sherrysherman
02-27-2011, 12:21 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/616112-negative_carvings.jpg

onlinewoman
02-27-2011, 12:23 AM
Not as easy as it looks but what a great exercise!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/192942-egg-exercise.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/192942-triangle-exercise.jpg

Ruthie57
02-27-2011, 04:52 AM
No not easy, but fun and a great learning tool. Will try this again with different shapes.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/189061-oval_shape_homework.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/189061-triangle_shape.jpg

mij
02-27-2011, 06:11 AM
Jim, not an easy exercise.
cheers
jim


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/69634-trees.jpg

elsie50
02-27-2011, 06:19 AM
Here is mine,,, I found the triangle slightly (not much) easier than the oval..
Will do more of these,, makes you brain work...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/142124-fir_2_Small.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/142124-trees_from_rectangle_Small.jpg

Joan Agnus
02-27-2011, 06:43 AM
This was a tough exercise...

oils4me
02-27-2011, 07:13 AM
The idea is to end up with abstract designs. The tree shape on the left is symmetrical.


Yes that one was hardest, I'm going to work on it some more today...what a great exercise...it looks easy...but so does wind surfing...LOL thanks I know I'm going to be a better artist with this kind of training. :)

oils4me
02-27-2011, 09:01 AM
Yes that one was hardest, I'm going to work on it some more today...what a great exercise...it looks easy...but so does wind surfing...LOL thanks I know I'm going to be a better artist with this kind of training. :)


Is this better? I will continue to do these exercises wow...very challenging and I can see how this alone will make me see better...:)

susanc
02-27-2011, 09:53 AM
These amazed my husband--by how long it took me to do them! ;) I discovered I like to create protrusions at regular intervals and if I don't get faster, I'll never finish a painting in this lifetime! :) I wasn't sure what to do at the bottom of the evergreen so it shrunk --and shrunk and shrunk! Just have to keep practicing.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/1697-evergreen4_copy.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/1697-ovaltree_4copy.jpg
Ken--thanks for loaning me your eyes yesterday. I thought I was good at observation, but through your presentation, I found out I'm still missing quite a bit! :rolleyes:

surob
02-27-2011, 10:06 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/100874-Ovalshape.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/100874-triangleshape.jpg

luvs2paint1
02-27-2011, 10:07 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/58166-BrendaHomeworkEgg.jpg

Well, what do you know, I finally figured out how to upload an image. :clap:

Yabut
02-27-2011, 10:08 AM
I've already done this exercise, but after seeing some of the lovely creations others came up with, I thought I'd try it again. It really isn't as easy as one would think, and though I think I still prefer my original triangle one (even if it does remind me of Alice in Wonderland's Rabbit), I'm posting these ones anyway. You can't say I'm not trying.

Yabut

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/52194-cutout_trees.jpg

JFountain
02-27-2011, 10:31 AM
First one is from a triangle, second is the ovalhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/775222-homework_1.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/775222-homework2.gif

singsong
02-27-2011, 10:40 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/759462-homework2_b.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/759462-homework2.jpg

Here's what I did. I've always wondered how artist's could draw such neat shapes, and never could figure it out. It's very nice to know.

Rosemarie
02-27-2011, 11:14 AM
Here are my first tries
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/2623-triangletree.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/2623-ovaltree.jpg

Not only was I fighting my left brain but also the application. Johannes I hope you give me the :thumbsup: for my attempts.

tedzart
02-27-2011, 11:31 AM
Another fun exercise.
Oval Shape
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/180589-OvalShape.jpg
Triangular shape
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/180589-triangleshape.jpg

horsthh
02-27-2011, 11:49 AM
Here are my tree shapes, could not help myself, noticed both look like fir tree shapes, living in the Northwest does that. Thank you Johannes for all the work you do, great class.

Kat5
02-27-2011, 11:57 AM
Some things look so easy - this wasnt - Hopefully I'll get better with practice!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/788072-triagle2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/788072-oval4.jpg
c & c welcome

Laura2011
02-27-2011, 11:59 AM
I am not sure that it is right but here it is.

Lynn 592
02-27-2011, 12:02 PM
Here's my triangle and oval exercise.

ladyB
02-27-2011, 12:12 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/177762-oval_abstract__tree.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/177762-triangle_abstract_shape.jpg

I enjoyed doing this; however, I felt my left brain pulling. I hope I succeeded
in fighting it.

LadyB (Elaine)
cc welcomed

skappy
02-27-2011, 12:27 PM
Hi Johannes and everyone
Here is my contribution in psd with the mouseI had fun
Robert:cat: :wave:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/157927-pine_tree.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/157927-Tree.jpg

Holly B.
02-27-2011, 12:38 PM
Unegged

tvandeb
02-27-2011, 12:54 PM
Please ignore my previous post, I was think in minature mode. Here's an update done this a.m. with ink and acrylics.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/71359-DSCF1345.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/71359-DSCF1347.JPG

spirothet
02-27-2011, 01:12 PM
It looks like I missed a good session. I only caught the last 45 minutes. I hope I understood correctly. Here is my oval and triangle of negative spaces.

jmcedeno
02-27-2011, 01:15 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/159973-Class_5-Homework-02-27-2011-10-00-34-218.jpg

Bghis
02-27-2011, 01:21 PM
Hi Johaness, here's Eva from Spain. So you can imagine the difference with hours of the webinars :lol: . Here I post my humble attemp with the "egg" shape and the "triangle". Hope that's ok.Both of them were drawed with a 5,6 cretacolor lead 2B. First I drawed the forms and after I began to "cut" the shapes. Later I filled with the lead.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/222609-huevo.GIF
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/222609-triangulo.GIF

VeeKee
02-27-2011, 01:25 PM
Here's my tree from the egg shape and from the trianglehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/68714-tree_from_triangle.jpg :http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/68714-tree_from_egg_shape.jpg

buddingnewartist
02-27-2011, 01:26 PM
Ok so you make this look easy to do, but it is actually quite difficult, here is my attempt on the oval:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/117908-oval_homework.jpg

LAyers
02-27-2011, 01:34 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/120844-oval_exercise1.jpg

pat-trew
02-27-2011, 01:52 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/105243-TREE3.JPG

pat-trew
02-27-2011, 01:54 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/105243-untitled.JPG

Zanart
02-27-2011, 02:12 PM
Here are my shapeshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/63367-Homework_9_negative_oval_and_triangle.jpg

Sunny7
02-27-2011, 02:19 PM
These are my homework.... fun

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/222019-Homework_2.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/222019-Homework_1.JPG

jakter
02-27-2011, 02:25 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/61849-oval_tree_shape.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/61849-trianlgetree_shape.jpg
I'm going to try this over and over megative painting this exersize was great!
thank you!

Sienna black
02-27-2011, 02:35 PM
Thanks Johannes for everything. I am trying this posting thing again on another comupter....hope it works.

jtburton
02-27-2011, 02:59 PM
here are my two uploadshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/59338-oval.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/59338-triangle.jpg

charleyz
02-27-2011, 03:02 PM
674842 674862

Moyer
02-27-2011, 03:19 PM
oval shape

bjornjo
02-27-2011, 03:23 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/186410-triangel.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/186410-egg.jpg
my little egg and my trinagel could use improvement my trinagel is worst to many same potrustions of same size

kittierue
02-27-2011, 03:24 PM
These were more difficult than I thought they'd be!

bluemoonstar
02-27-2011, 03:32 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/93432-TREE-OVAL+TRIANGLE.jpg
ENJOYING YOUR CLASS!
PAT

firesignart
02-27-2011, 03:46 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/97017-ncook_trees2.jpg here are mine!

*Deirdre*
02-27-2011, 03:48 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/33616-cutout-trees.jpg

Pinklady219
02-27-2011, 05:31 PM
Okay, I'll try again (until I GET IT).

callady
02-27-2011, 07:51 PM
since I don't know how to use photoshop (so confusing) I had to resort to the old black paper and scissors routine. It reminds me of when I used to cut miniatures freehand.

Mato Kuwapi
02-27-2011, 07:53 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/532131-tree2oval.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/532131-pine3.jpg

gpd2543
02-27-2011, 08:53 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/112227-homework.jpg

gpd2543
02-27-2011, 08:55 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/112227-homeworktriangle.jpg

kloklm
02-27-2011, 09:18 PM
Well, here are my attempts....
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/36568-oval.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/36568-triangle.jpg

Sienna black
02-27-2011, 09:23 PM
I want to thank you again Johannes and all the people who help you on the webinar. Well here is another attempt.

Catherine the Great
02-27-2011, 09:28 PM
Hello: Catherine the Great here:
I tried to upload the pics. I hope they come through. It has taken me about 2 hours to really be able to uplead. I hope it works.:crossfingers: :clap:

Valerieart
02-27-2011, 09:58 PM
Here is Abstract Tree and Abstract Evergreen.

Catherine the Great
02-27-2011, 10:21 PM
:confused: Well that was surely a waste of time. I cannot get the file small enough. Fotosketch will not upload to wetcanvas. I managed to get the file small enough in fotosketch. But not in any other places. I will try one more but I have really spent too much time on this already.:(
Catherine.

Windrawings
02-28-2011, 06:17 AM
Great classes but apparently I don't post enough to be allowed to upload homework...????

Rosemarie
02-28-2011, 06:46 AM
Now you have posted enough times to being able to to upload images!

*Deirdre*
02-28-2011, 06:49 AM
Great classes but apparently I don't post enough to be allowed to upload homework...????
You have to post two plain messages...i.e., no pictures, before you can upload photos....this is to prevent spambots using our site. So now you can go ahead, post your picture!:D

*Deirdre*
02-28-2011, 06:54 AM
:confused: Well that was surely a waste of time. I cannot get the file small enough. Fotosketch will not upload to wetcanvas. I managed to get the file small enough in fotosketch. But not in any other places. I will try one more but I have really spent too much time on this already.:(
Catherine.
you can post .jpeg
.bmp
.gif
for any other upload information click on uploading images in my signature.

robertsloan2
02-28-2011, 08:29 AM
Here it is, my day-late homework. Sorry but after class and the intensity of taking notes, I was too pooped to actually do the exercise of carving out abstract shapes from geometry. I'd done it before so I wanted to do a really good job this time. Ah, pride.

I've got a cat commission in progress in the planning stage, so that's what I did for my first abstract shape. This is actually created by sketching from the photo reference for my cat portrait.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/70184-Homework-Feb-26-27-Cutouts.jpg

After doing the cutout exercise I set a halftone and bucket filled the shape so you could see what shape I started from.

What I left out on the cat was a distinctive black marking on his head under his ear and the line of his head distinct from his tummy. He's a white cat with a few small black markings - two on his head and most of his tail. He's laying on his tail in this pose.

So I used this exercise as a test - is the shape of my subject as it is, from the photo, a good abstract shape? Or do I need to change this cat's pose slightly?

I could move the tail out from under him to break up the shape. I could bend him a little farther to accent the shoulder protrusion from the larger lower-back protrusion. The ear's more or less a triangle but it's distorted somewhat and is a recognition feature, one that will be partly shaped by the black face marking right next to it. The background in the photo's going to make it easy - he's laying on a rumpled gray blanket so I can arrange cloth folds as lead-ins toward him. Many of them are already lead-ins.

There's a narrower quite abstract shape of bright white that's the sun on his white back going down his shoulder onto the left side extended foreleg. His body is a light mid-tone similar to what I'd use in a sky. His black face marking will emphasize his head as much as its shape.

What puzzles me about this is that if I try flipping it vertically so his head is not upside down the painting loses some of its charm - he looks like he's falling. Even a horizontal flip doesn't work as well. I'm not sure why it looks best with his head in the lower left "sweet spot" but it does. Might be the direction of the smile.

Johannes Instructor
02-28-2011, 08:49 AM
Here it is, my day-late homework. Sorry but after class and the intensity of taking notes, I was too pooped to actually do the exercise of carving out abstract shapes from geometry. I'd done it before so I wanted to do a really good job this time. Ah, pride.

I've got a cat commission in progress in the planning stage, so that's what I did for my first abstract shape. This is actually created by sketching from the photo reference for my cat portrait.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/70184-Homework-Feb-26-27-Cutouts.jpg

After doing the cutout exercise I set a halftone and bucket filled the shape so you could see what shape I started from.

What I left out on the cat was a distinctive black marking on his head under his ear and the line of his head distinct from his tummy. He's a white cat with a few small black markings - two on his head and most of his tail. He's laying on his tail in this pose.

So I used this exercise as a test - is the shape of my subject as it is, from the photo, a good abstract shape? Or do I need to change this cat's pose slightly?

I could move the tail out from under him to break up the shape. I could bend him a little farther to accent the shoulder protrusion from the larger lower-back protrusion. The ear's more or less a triangle but it's distorted somewhat and is a recognition feature, one that will be partly shaped by the black face marking right next to it. The background in the photo's going to make it easy - he's laying on a rumpled gray blanket so I can arrange cloth folds as lead-ins toward him. Many of them are already lead-ins.

There's a narrower quite abstract shape of bright white that's the sun on his white back going down his shoulder onto the left side extended foreleg. His body is a light mid-tone similar to what I'd use in a sky. His black face marking will emphasize his head as much as its shape.

What puzzles me about this is that if I try flipping it vertically so his head is not upside down the painting loses some of its charm - he looks like he's falling. Even a horizontal flip doesn't work as well. I'm not sure why it looks best with his head in the lower left "sweet spot" but it does. Might be the direction of the smile.
You still have two equal protrusions on both sides.

eviepatra
02-28-2011, 08:53 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/870782-tree1.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/870782-ovaltree.JPG

Pinklady219
02-28-2011, 09:28 AM
Okay, I'll try again (until I GET IT).

allydoodle
02-28-2011, 09:48 AM
My first attempt (see post #16):

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/93075-negative_tree.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/93075-negative_pine_tree.JPG

My second attempt:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/93075-negative_tree_2.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/93075-negative_pine_tree_2.JPG

emilyopal
02-28-2011, 10:03 AM
I didn't know how difficult this would be,, here goes.
I 'll add my thanks to the growing list of grateful students
carol

hungariancontessa
02-28-2011, 11:02 AM
This is not as easy as it looks, especially if you have limited vision!

hungariancontessa
02-28-2011, 11:07 AM
I guess, I have to post twice in order to upload work.

hungariancontessa
02-28-2011, 11:12 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/145129-neg_oval1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/145129-triangle_neg_1.jpg

Silverlark
02-28-2011, 11:20 AM
Oops! I need to redo this homework. I could say the dog ate it, but I don't even have a dog. I need to go back and follow the instructions more thoroughly.

Anyways, THANKS Johannes for the Massing Values lesson Sunday. Took 20 years off my learning curve, and that's great, 'cause I'm a baby boomer.

crystalhart`
02-28-2011, 11:38 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/164971-oval.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/164971-triangle.jpg

pjreads
02-28-2011, 12:12 PM
Tough exercise and one I will need to do often.
Tree in oval after a couple of tries (I can see now where the tops of protrusions on the left and right line up :( ):
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/190233-negative_tree_in_oval.jpg

Tree in triangle after many tries:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/190233-negative_tree_in_triangle2.jpg

Silverlark
02-28-2011, 12:17 PM
This time I stuck to working on the negative space as much as possible, as per the instructions. You can use this for class.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/10034-treehomework2.jpg

(BTW all those stars by my avatar, I don't deserve them, so I think WC should remove them. This is only about my 6th post. I'm just another schmuck with a paintbrush!)

sherrysherman
02-28-2011, 12:51 PM
(BTW all those stars by my avatar, I don't deserve them, so I think WC should remove them. This is only about my 6th post. I'm just another schmuck with a paintbrush!)

LOL! How funny -- it says you've made over 4 BILLION posts! That would definitely earn you all those stars! :D

poolekv
02-28-2011, 01:08 PM
Here is my go at negative space by the way I only joined the class this weekend and I am really enjoying it.

susanc
02-28-2011, 02:35 PM
Is it OK to post a second time? I can't attend on Sundays, so I don't know what advice was given--I hope these are better now. As I looked through the rest, I liked the shapes with sky holes better than mine so I also tried that. My main goal was to try for shapes I might put into my own paintings. The oval tree is a little too busy for the style I hope to paint. Now that I see it smaller, it's still too rigidly oval, and needs more sway or something. :) Ack, I now see another repetition in the evergreen.

I'm wondering how much indentation on the top of a tree will still allow rollover and how to keep the bottom edge of an evergreen roundish, but not completely round...I don't have many good visual symbols stored in my brain yet.

This is great practice--I have had a tree grow so much, it took over a painting once before! :eek:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/1697-oval-tree_copy.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/1697-triangletree_copy.jpg

mimico92
02-28-2011, 03:05 PM
It takes a bit of practice to start seeing the negative rather than the positive shapes, but then it starts to be fun. The oval and the triangle were in pencil and didn't show up when I scanned them.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/190457-tree_3.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/190457-tree_4.jpg

Judibelle
02-28-2011, 03:58 PM
Here are mine...done in pencil...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/103700-scan0001.jpg_trees_homework_negative.jpg

Elderith
02-28-2011, 05:21 PM
That was a great exercise Johannes, enjoyed every bit of it. Looking forward to more homework.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/241181-Negative-1_edited-1.jpg

Elderith
02-28-2011, 05:23 PM
This is an evergreen version using a triangle.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/241181-Negative-2_edited-1.jpg

Holly B.
02-28-2011, 06:25 PM
:music:

Catherine the Great
02-28-2011, 08:05 PM
Here Goes, lets give this one more try.:crossfingers: :wave: :clap: Yeh it worked. Just had to read the directions. LOL After all the work I went through Johannes, you better give me at least an A. LOL Thank-you for the help Dierdre (I hope I spelled your name right.)

Catherine the Great
02-28-2011, 08:13 PM
Here is the egg one gain. I adjusted it a little more.

karan55
02-28-2011, 08:29 PM
here are my attempts.

jmcedeno
02-28-2011, 08:32 PM
These are great exercises, not only for painting with the right side of the brain but for the brain itself. I don't know about you but I'm planning to do more of this everyday.
Here is the second time around:Before and Afterhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/159973-Negative_Painting_Revision-02-28-2011-17-04-54-625.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/159973-Class_5-Homework-02-27-2011-10-00-34-218.jpg

Susan Peltonen
02-28-2011, 09:25 PM
Here are my two negative painting exercises.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/153022-trees2.jpg

mcbru
02-28-2011, 09:41 PM
Here is my fourth effort and first post. A difficult and fun excercise. I can see cloned negative spaces already. Back to the drawing board.:lol:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/57396-homework.jpg

whenwe
02-28-2011, 09:59 PM
My attempt at the negative image exercise, I find the whole course tremendously helpful, Thanks to all those involved.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/205317-neg_shape_triangle.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/205317-neg_shape_oval.JPG

Pinklady219
02-28-2011, 10:54 PM
My last submission was done in Paint. These two were drawn. In the egg, I added smaller ones to fill in all that black space.:wink2:

B4painter
03-01-2011, 01:04 AM
Hi, these are my attempts left and right sides are different.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/68215-new-1.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/68215-new-2.jpg

B4painter
03-01-2011, 01:14 AM
Hi, these are my attempts left and right sides are different.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/68215-new-1.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/68215-new-2.jpg

Tresgatos
03-01-2011, 02:31 AM
Hello Johannes,

I am posting my second attempt of the Negative Painting Exercise after watching your training sessions over the weekend. I think I have improved. Thanks again for very informative sessions.

Barbara

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/113757-Re-do_Triangle.jpg



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/113757-Re-do_Oval.jpg

Johannes Instructor
03-01-2011, 09:48 AM
Maybe I did not make myself clear. I want you to carve out these shapes so they look like trees. One would be a decidous tree, the other would be an evergreen.

sherrysherman
03-01-2011, 02:20 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/616112-negative_painting_trees.jpg

Anoella
03-01-2011, 02:36 PM
Here are my trees, though my deciduous looks a little stout with a short trunk.
Working on the oval one half at a time and covering up the other I still did several identical patterns on both sides.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/102384-neg_paint_ex0001.jpg

pjsammy
03-01-2011, 03:43 PM
sorry but it is telling me I haven't made 2 posts (I have) so here is a blank one.

pjsammy
03-01-2011, 03:44 PM
Here's my second try...I think I'm getting your point about simple abstract shapes being more pleasing.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/182739-both_2.jpg

Misty Mountain
03-01-2011, 04:33 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/54780-trees_second_try.jpg :wave:

oldradagast
03-01-2011, 04:34 PM
Painting those trees using negative painting is trickier than it looks!

Here's my submission to this effort...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/153201-negative_painting1.jpg

painterted
03-01-2011, 04:37 PM
Am I wrong or are these silhouettes more so then negative paintings?

oldradagast
03-01-2011, 04:43 PM
They are silhouettes since these "paintings" are only black and white, but these same shapes would be created via negative painting. Basically, instead of just painting the tree on top of the background (sky, far trees, etc.) you bring the background into the tree-shape to give it a more pleasing, abstract look.

One of the main reasons to do this is to force the brain to see the trees not as a perfect collection of separate trees, but rather as an abstract shape. The shape itself must look pleasing - then, little details can be added - and if the shape fails to be pleasing, no amount of extra detail will save it.

If you only paint positively and try to paint each tree separately, you'll end up with cloned shapes everywhere; you'll also find that your trees tend to line up in absurdly unrealistic "fence rows..." Trust me, I have years of experience in painting fence-row trees... these lessons have really helped me break away from that mindset.

Lynn 592
03-01-2011, 04:58 PM
It's hard to create pleasing, melodic, abstract shapes that suggests a tree!

robertsloan2
03-01-2011, 05:04 PM
Thanks for the critique, Johannes. I think that was the cat contour you were referring to. My trees didn't but I was following the photo for the cat shape and you're right, his tail bump and the hock of his leg made equal protrusions. Also the line of his shoulder and another bump on his back were too close.

I'll use a different photo for the commission, since this shape isn't pleasing outside context I can use a better one. I think my trees came out non-repeating though.

painterted
03-01-2011, 05:26 PM
They are silhouettes since these "paintings" are only black and white, but these same shapes would be created via negative painting. Basically, instead of just painting the tree on top of the background (sky, far trees, etc.) you bring the background into the tree-shape to give it a more pleasing, abstract look.

One of the main reasons to do this is to force the brain to see the trees not as a perfect collection of separate trees, but rather as an abstract shape. The shape itself must look pleasing - then, little details can be added - and if the shape fails to be pleasing, no amount of extra detail will save it.

If you only paint positively and try to paint each tree separately, you'll end up with cloned shapes everywhere; you'll also find that your trees tend to line up in absurdly unrealistic "fence rows..." Trust me, I have years of experience in painting fence-row trees... these lessons have really helped me break away from that mindset.


Thanks oldradagast, but how are the artists getting a black tree if you are negative painting, are they using white paint? Sorry I don't understand.

sherrysherman
03-01-2011, 06:39 PM
Thanks oldradagast, but how are the artists getting a black tree if you are negative painting, are they using white paint? Sorry I don't understand.

Yes, painterted. You may have missed the instructions - we started with (a) a black egg shape, then "carve out" around the edges with white paint (or white paintbrush in a computer program, or use an eraser to erase black pencil marks). We are focusing on the WHITE (the negative space AROUND the black shape that is slowly being formed). Our goal is to create an "abstract" deciduous tree shape, one that is asymmetrical, with non-repeating indentations and bumps, and has a pleasing "tree" look. Then we do the same with (b) a black triangle, using white and carving in around the OUTSIDE of it to create an "evergreen" shape.

B4painter
03-01-2011, 06:46 PM
Hi, Thanks for clarifying that, hope these look better, was easier today than yesterday. I think I'll practise every day for a week and see if I get better yet! Barb Shttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/68215-Graphic1.jpg

sherrysherman
03-01-2011, 07:09 PM
Hi, Thanks for clarifying that, hope these look better, was easier today than yesterday. I think I'll practise every day for a week and see if I get better yet! Barb S]

Huh. Oddly enough, at first all I could see was a black rectangle. Now it showed up. (I'd erase this comment altogether but I don't see how.)

sue burke
03-01-2011, 07:09 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/4226-negative_space-tree_1.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/4226-negative_space-tree_2.jpg

painterted
03-01-2011, 07:10 PM
Yes, painterted. You may have missed the instructions - we started with (a) a black egg shape, then "carve out" around the edges with white paint (or white paintbrush in a computer program, or use an eraser to erase black pencil marks). We are focusing on the WHITE (the negative space AROUND the black shape that is slowly being formed). Our goal is to create an "abstract" deciduous tree shape, one that is asymmetrical, with non-repeating indentations and bumps, and has a pleasing "tree" look. Then we do the same with (b) a black triangle, using white and carving in around the OUTSIDE of it to create an "evergreen" shape.


Thank you sherrysherman, clear now. I came across this about a week ago and there is so much to read that I missed that.

ted

Yabut
03-01-2011, 07:11 PM
[QUOTE=robertsloan2]I've got a cat commission in progress in the planning stage, so that's what I did for my first abstract shape. This is actually created by sketching from the photo reference for my cat portrait.
[QUOTE]

You are so good at providing us with notes Robert, that I'm willing to take the blame for you misunderstanding this exercise (whether I had anything to do with it or not). My first tree did resemble a running rabbit, but that was totally unintentional. I'm sorry it if somehow got you off on the wrong foot.

Yabut:cat:

Amandine
03-01-2011, 07:30 PM
Here is my homework for this week. First, the triangle :
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/661062-evergreen.jpg
Next, the oval :
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/661062-decidious.jpg
I must say that I enjoyed doing this exercise. I didn't really try to draw trees ; I just focused on the shapes. After a first attempt with a black form on white screen, I reversed it to white form surrounded by black. Fabulous! It gave me a completely different vision.
I don't know if I succeeded with this exercise so tomorrow, I'll do it again but will try to come up with forms closer to trees.
Amandine

rmincklerca
03-01-2011, 07:45 PM
This was a fascinating but frustrating sketching exercise in dealing with the left brain interfering with my right brain.

I started off in Gimp by outlining a very crude oval with a huge paint brush, filled it in with black using the bucket fill tool. Keeping in mind your instruction about carving I began carving away black with the eraser tool and added and fiddled with various sizes of brush and eraser until it began "to draw it self". I kept on covering my right eye to activate my right brain until I started to feel that this is what I "felt or needed to go where. Finally I stopped and thought/felt that "That's It". Here it is.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/107184-Carved_tree_from_oval.jpg

The learning curve was awful at first as I tried to use rusty reflexes from when I was teaching myself and high school students to use various "paint" programs and web design layout skills in Infotech classes.

I felt satisfied and eager I guess. Something must have happened to my left brain. It kinda stopped stopped interfering when I did the evergreen below. I repeated the crude outline and fill processes and created a sloppy isosceles triangle. I followed through carving and painting and the evergreen came out.

Funny thing was that the whole evergreen experience was much faster. Only about 30 t0 40 min. as opposed to about 60 to 90 minutes for the deciduous.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/107184-Evergreen_carved_from_triangle.jpg

I recognize each may be too detailed but it is a start toward feeling that I can draw something. Now I just have to do the trees in a smaller version and more blurred in a landscape.

Nansketch
03-01-2011, 08:19 PM
here are my attempts - fun but difficult exercise, I hope to practice when time is available.

Nancy

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/141858-jv-neg1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Mar-2011/141858-jv-neg2.jpg

Tresgatos
03-02-2011, 03:13 AM
Oh, you wanted trees :lol::lol::lol: duh :confused: Here is my 3rd attempt - hope it is what you want :crossfingers:

Barbara


Oval - Silhouette of tree

I cut out the negative spaces with scissors on black construction paper and the glued white paper behind it to show the negatives spaces

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Mar-2011/113757-3rd_Re-do_Oval.jpg



Triangle - Snow covered pine tree

I cut out the negatives spaces with scissors on white paper and glued purple construction paper behind it to emphasize the negative spaces


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Mar-2011/113757-3rd_Re-do_Triangle.jpg





It could have been done with paint but if this is correct, then it will have a more lasting impression for me.

Artsydeb
03-02-2011, 04:01 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Mar-2011/872302-hw-oval.jpg

Here is my first try at the oval but will do another attempt :rolleyes:

bobsavannah
03-02-2011, 12:48 PM
I got a little carried away I think.

rib00
03-02-2011, 07:33 PM
Thoughts???

Ruth04
03-02-2011, 09:16 PM
I made my trees with the spray tool.

typerighter
03-02-2011, 11:22 PM
This was fun but I didn't find it easy!

Amandine
03-03-2011, 01:00 PM
Second posting for this exercise. I must say that I worked hard to come up with trees looking like trees. So there I go.

This is my evergreen :
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Mar-2011/661062-evergreen3.JPG

This is my decidious tree :
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Mar-2011/661062-decidious_tree2.JPG

Very good exercise Johannes. Paying attention not to clone little shapes means revise and recheck the drawing, looking at it close to the screen and then a bit far away. Looking forward for new homework.
Amandine

poolekv
03-03-2011, 01:26 PM
heres another go at the homework, I am guessing that it need to be both pleasing to the eye and a realistic tree shape draw by using negative space, am I heading in the correct direction ?

judyfilarecki
03-03-2011, 07:19 PM
Here's my attempt
(http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Mar-2011/190342-tree_shapes.jpeg)

lonelm
03-04-2011, 10:08 AM
I gave it a go. Really hard for your brain to let go of the left in favour of the right. :)


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2011/212898-oval.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2011/212898-triangle.jpg

pat-trew
03-04-2011, 02:40 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2011/105243-TREE_1.gif

pat-trew
03-04-2011, 02:44 PM
tried this with 2 trees together http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2011/105243-pine4.gif

LAyers
03-04-2011, 05:41 PM
another week, another try - this does not come easily, it's partly the tools, but mostly it's the left brain butting in.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2011/120844-tree_shapes_3.jpg

MKH
03-04-2011, 07:25 PM
The Egg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2011/17160-egg.jpg

The Triangle
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2011/17160-Triangle.jpg

Mohamed

Nora
03-05-2011, 01:32 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/11563-Oval_and_Triangle_trees.jpg


My first try.
Marilyn

SmArTaRtY
03-05-2011, 05:56 AM
Triangle

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/221245-Image1.jpg


Egg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/221245-Image3.jpg

mozapony
03-05-2011, 09:56 AM
exercise pos-neg shapes . . . grrrr

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../Community/images/05-Mar-2011/133246-pos-neg_shapes.jpg

Please show me the err of my ways and that I might learn from your guidance. Thx.
.
rgds
Sandee

NorthCarolinaStudent
03-05-2011, 11:18 AM
I cannot seem to upload my negative pictures. One started out like a triangle and I erased until it looked pretty good as a tree. The next was an oval and I did the same thing. They are both awesome!

I really don't understand why I can't upload, I tried with an avitar and that worked.

Moyer
03-05-2011, 11:49 AM
Tree shape still trying to learn uploading of photos following how to post.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/187408-egg.jpg (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/#)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/187408-egg.jpg (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/#)

elisamaria
03-05-2011, 12:07 PM
Homework for today.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/735472-P1030899.JPG
Elisabeth

Moyer
03-05-2011, 12:10 PM
evergreen tree shape


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/187408-evergreen.jpg (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/#)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/187408-evergreen.jpg (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/#)

Blah
03-05-2011, 12:33 PM
My abstract shapes for 1. a city skyline, 2. a deciduous tree, and 3. a coniferous tree.

ddel
03-05-2011, 01:21 PM
Sorry for extra lines etc. Just learning Photoshop elements!!!! Doug

AnitaBee
03-05-2011, 01:41 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/739652-trees_2.JPG

Took a couple of tries and some time, difficult to use just the eraser, resisted the temptation to go in and paint the positive image.

Windrawings
03-05-2011, 03:18 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/56858-OVAL_TRIANGLE_EXERCISE.gif

judithj
03-05-2011, 08:45 PM
This was so much fun! :clap: :clap: :clap:


I got a couple of tree - but if you look closely, you will see a dinosaur fight, a silhouette of a mermaid, a Gennie coming out of a bottle and a handful of ghosts.

I had to make it an attachment, the upload button is not liking it - hope it comes through.

Thanks, Judith

PS many thanks for this course!!!

Isaac M.M.
03-08-2011, 07:51 PM
my trees here:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Mar-2011/97351-tree1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Mar-2011/97351-tree3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Mar-2011/97351-tree4.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Mar-2011/97351-tree5.jpg

wc3f4o9r1um
03-09-2011, 03:04 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Mar-2011/203506-IMG_0115.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Mar-2011/203506-IMG_0116.JPG
This is an exercise that I am going to have to continue working on.

etdavis6
03-25-2011, 11:02 PM
Here are my oval and triangle abstracted tree shapes. I did what Johannes did when painting -- working back and forth between negative and positive painting.:angel:

Hmmm...I've never actually seen an evergreen tree like this. Perhaps we should pretend these are silhouettes of trees in a children's book.:rolleyes:
Better late than never.

Wyn Easton
01-08-2012, 08:36 AM
Hi Folks,

I'm a little late to the show. I signed up for Jo "Painting Skies" class for 1/14.
I've been looking at the first 24 lessons. Graet stuff!

Here are several negative painting excercises I've done. I just want to get some feedback on them, if possible. Thanks.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-oval_1_crop.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-oval_2_crop.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-oval_3_crop.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-oval_4_crop.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-triangle_1_crop.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-triangle_2_crop.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-triangle_3_crop.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-triangle_4_crop.jpg

Johannes Instructor
01-08-2012, 09:32 AM
Hi Folks,

I'm a little late to the show. I signed up for Jo "Painting Skies" class for 1/14.
I've been looking at the first 24 lessons. Graet stuff!

Here are several negative painting excercises I've done. I just want to get some feedback on them, if possible. Thanks.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-oval_1_crop.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-oval_2_crop.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-oval_3_crop.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-oval_4_crop.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-triangle_1_crop.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-triangle_2_crop.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-triangle_3_crop.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jan-2012/50466-triangle_4_crop.jpg
They are pretty good. You have two cloned indentations (white negative space) in the second picture.

Wyn Easton
01-08-2012, 09:42 AM
They are pretty good. You have two cloned indentations (white negative space) in the second picture.
Thanks Jo. Amazing how those shapes can creep in like that. Thank you for your input.

Johannes Instructor
01-09-2012, 11:01 AM
Thanks Jo. Amazing how those shapes can creep in like that. Thank you for your input.
All artists will have this problem and I can only solve it by painting backwards. It's like you know what you have to do but something in you keeps insisting that it wants to repeat shapes and make them symmetrical.