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Johannes Instructor
02-12-2011, 07:39 PM
Please upload them before class tomorrow. Landscapes only please. I just want to see singular objects such as trees, rocks, etc. It's ok if they are in context within a landscape photo but there should be abstract landscape objects.

karan55
02-12-2011, 09:11 PM
tree shape

karan55
02-12-2011, 09:22 PM
trees in landscape

karan55
02-12-2011, 09:33 PM
tree shapes from Daniel Boone Homestead

beejane
02-12-2011, 09:48 PM
I'm stretching the concept but trying to find abstract shapes in houses.
The house:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/99014-green_house.JPG

And a few abstract shapes, if I ignore some of the unavoidable triangles:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/99014-abstract_shapes_1.JPG

Valerieart
02-12-2011, 10:01 PM
This is the same tree shot from two sides.
I thought the old house was abstract as well as the tree by it

mozapony
02-12-2011, 10:38 PM
rocks and skies (mikki petersen WC)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/133246-Red_Rock_Canyon_3_-_MikkiPetersenWC.jpg
rocks (scottyarthurWC)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/133246-Red_Rock_s_037_-_scottyarthur.jpg
palm trees
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/133246-palm_trees_guardalavacca_n_008_-_marieD.jpg
.
mp

LynnM
02-12-2011, 11:38 PM
These photos were taken by me. Johannes may use them for teaching.

Some abstract rock shapes here (not the triangular end in the middle!) and the shape of the creek

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/97813-Tiffany-Creek-2-abstract-ro.jpg

and a good tree

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/97813-tree-abstract-shape.jpg

Pinklady219
02-12-2011, 11:48 PM
Here is my dogwood tree and a bottle tree. All rights are relinquished to Johannes and class.

Rainbunny
02-13-2011, 12:37 AM
Rocks - Neolithic burial site.

Pinklady219
02-13-2011, 12:43 AM
Here is a neat rock!

tuscanni
02-13-2011, 01:22 AM
I thought that this was an awesome looking tree! Its a local area tree that I would love to paint (on canvas) someday. I think it qualifies as abstract.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/187535-IMG_4591.JPG

winecountry
02-13-2011, 01:47 AM
Johannes may use these photos for teaching I took them
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/103030-bodega_head_view_6599.jpg

nvcricket
02-13-2011, 03:05 AM
I don't know if these will be useful, but thought I'd give it a shot.

Carol

Blah
02-13-2011, 04:01 AM
I am not sure if these qualify, but here they are....

carol_lee
02-13-2011, 04:43 AM
Here are a few of my images for use in class
Salt rocks at the Dead Sea
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/58142-ein-gedi001.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/58142-hermon_09.jpg
Rocks and tree taken at Mt Hermon

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/58142-IMG_0733.jpg
Interesting clouds

Tree at intersection Jerusalem
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/58142-tree_01-copy.jpg

Carol

*Deirdre*
02-13-2011, 05:43 AM
White Scar Cave, Ingleton , North Yorkshire
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/33616-White_Scar_Caves_Ingleton.jpg
Tree nearby my Suffolk home
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/33616-tree.jpg

emilyopal
02-13-2011, 08:06 AM
So few in my possession are abstract enough

emilyopal
02-13-2011, 08:15 AM
though this one is a good example of non-abstract shape

SalzburgBJ
02-13-2011, 09:40 AM
Here are mine, an oak tree and a local mountain range in/near Salzburg Austria.
Both photos are mine and I give my permission for them to be used by Johannes & WetCanvas.
Thanks,
Bethhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/225695-DSC00561_oak_small.jpg

Rosemarie
02-13-2011, 10:33 AM
It was hard to find really pleasing abstract shapes in my photos. Nature does want thing to be smooth and symmetrical. I have tried to upload but the wheel is just spinning and nothing more happens. Finally managed!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/2623-DSCN0392.jpg

robertsloan2
02-13-2011, 11:02 AM
I'm hampered by not having very many photos I've taken, let alone photos that were any good out of those I did. Nearly all of my landscape photos were taken on one trip the summer we moved here to Arkansas. I hope to get out there with camera again this summer and get better photos.

I was able to find three out of the group that I could spot good abstract shapes in. One isn't an object, it's the shadow on an object that fascinated me when I took the photo. I'd change the outer line of the fallen tree to make it more interesting, rough up the bark to give it a more musical line. But the shadow's great.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/70184-Abstract-Shadow-Class-Homework-2-12.jpg

I might use this one as the background for painting a small animal or bird perched on it - an animal would break up the outer edge of the log perfectly.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/70184-Abstract-Tree-Class-Homework-2-12.jpg
Usually I sketch this scene from life, it's the view from my window. I just took a summer photo so I could remember the foliage in the middle of winter. I've actually got a better vantage point on that tree than I can get with the camera, if I use the camera where I sit the window gets too light and what shows is the rest of the room.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/70184-Abstract-Rock-Class-Homework-2-12.jpg
In person it was easier to look past the fence to the crag itself, focusing my eyes was easier than focusing the camera.

Johannes Vloothuis and WetCanvas have my permission to use these photos including with my sketches on them. Others can treat them as if they're RIL images.

I rely heavily on the Reference Image Library at WC because I'm mostly housebound, it's much easier for me to paint than to get outdoors with a camera!

Colorix
02-13-2011, 11:23 AM
The world is full of perfect symmetrical cone-shaped or dome-shaped trees, triangular or ovoid rocks, and elegant clouds where one side is the clone of the other side. I can show you perfect bands of clouds marching like military vehicles over the sky, all identical. Or straight continuous bands of clouds from horizon to horizon. There are the typical examples that Carlson shows (one large puff, with little puff-puff-puffs like exhaust from a moped trailing it). Or violent stormy august skies. Or, a solid overcast.

Giving up, this is what I managed to glean out of all the symmetry:

Johannes may use these in class.

Trees:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/117343-Abs_Pine.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/117343-Abs_leafless.jpg


I regard the below group of trees as fairly abstract:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/117343-Abs_grouptrees.jpg



Clouds:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/117343-Abs_clouds.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/117343-Abs_skies.jpg

(My home town.)

Rocks:
A few similar shapes, but otherwise a neat collection.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/117343-Abs_rocks.jpg

gwatford
02-13-2011, 11:30 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/223570-117-1761_IMG.JPG

This photo was taken at Thermopolis, WY. I see the 2 rock ledges, each forming an abstract shape. Also the river if cut out would be an abstract shape.

I give Johannes permission to use the photo in class.

Mary Brigid
02-13-2011, 11:39 AM
I see lots of abstract shaps and clones in the trees. A soup bowl where the sky meets the distant trees. Abstract shapes in the water and river bank. And you may use this photo if you wish Johannes. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/90519-pines_on_the_river.jpg

elisamaria
02-13-2011, 11:49 AM
At my place in Finland at the coast of the Finnish Gulf I spied in this photo last Sept. The water was extremely low, we do not have tides. Have a look, lots of abstract shapes, stones, rocks, water, puddles, clouds and even some trees.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/735472-P1030280.JPG

99country
02-13-2011, 11:50 AM
Abstract shape of a rock from Jonesville, California

mozapony
02-13-2011, 12:20 PM
if you need more pics - take what you want toss the rest. lol
petunia plant shape
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/133246-petunias100.jpg
tree badlands
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/133246-badlands_tree406.jpg
tree trunks
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/133246-trees2__757.jpg
abstract distant tree line
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/133246-trees_distant715.jpg
waterfalls(Kekabeka)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/133246-waterfalls225.jpg
clouds
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/133246-clouds723.jpg
puddle
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/133246-puddles_sandbank062.jpg
.
regards mp

marionh
02-13-2011, 12:22 PM
I liked the abstract shape of the group trees on the lhs

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/42113-Abstract_shape_1.jpg

I give Johannes rights to use this photo.

tedzart
02-13-2011, 12:47 PM
Abstract tree
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/180589-DSCF8607treecrop_edited-2.jpg


Abstract cloud
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/180589-CedarCreekParkway_325clouds_edited-2.jpg

Chrisp47
02-13-2011, 12:53 PM
Here I thought the cattails (as a mass) had a nice abstract shape


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/165919-Image2.jpg

In this one I think the snow has interesting abstract shapes
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/165919-Image1.jpg

Some abstract shapes in the formations. This one is from The Badlands, Drumheller, Alberta , Canada.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/165919-Image4.jpg

Ruthie57
02-13-2011, 12:54 PM
All the trees near me are symmetrical! Except the English Oaks, clad in their Ivy jackets.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/189061-abstract_3.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/189061-abstract4.JPG

This one's from France

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/189061-abstract_1.jpg

And a cloud that passed over my garden

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/189061-abstract_2.JPG

Dharma_bum
02-13-2011, 02:12 PM
Here are a couple...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/41430-File0098.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/41430-P1030244-2.jpg

Dan

kittierue
02-13-2011, 02:14 PM
Cloud shapes
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/222668-050728a.jpg

charleyz
02-13-2011, 02:37 PM
Bermuda Cove: rock formation
664162

NH Lake: cloud reflection
664172

VeeKee
02-13-2011, 02:57 PM
Hi! Loving the classes!

I give Johannes persmission to display and discuss this photo for class.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/68714-DSC01308.jpg

palongwell
02-13-2011, 02:58 PM
Clouds

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/760902-abstract_clouds.jpg

Trees

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/760902-AbstractTrees.jpg

firesignart
02-13-2011, 03:50 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/97017-eagle-tree-at-ferry.jpg

Dharma_bum
02-13-2011, 04:18 PM
I know that these are straight lines and triangles, but could this still be used as the basis of a painting, perhaps rearranging them for greater variation in the triangles? I think they definitely tell a story, and move the eye around the landscape. Thanks.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/41430-File0068.jpg

spirothet
02-13-2011, 04:43 PM
I believe the tree line is very melodic although some of the sky should be eliminated.

hayday77
02-13-2011, 04:46 PM
My abstract shape to use

llanopainter
02-13-2011, 05:27 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/170235-IMG_4089.JPG

tvandeb
02-13-2011, 05:50 PM
This was my first weekend in the class, alot of information for me to figure out. Here's the pics I picked, and used the photoshop tool. Old barn N.D.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/71359-old_barn,_ND.jpg Telluride, Colo.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/71359-telluride,_colo-2waterfalls.jpg Not sure if I did them right. the second photo I've always wanted to paint , but was confusing to me. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/71359-telluride,_colo._by_old_mining_company.jpg

patsbeads
02-13-2011, 06:31 PM
Here are a couple of trees.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/10245-july-2010_09edit-for-class.jpg [/IMG]
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/10245-dec-2009_038=edit-for-class.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-13-2011, 06:42 PM
DO Not Confuse What Is Beautiful Colors In A Photo Or An Interesting Curious Conversation Piece With What A Good Design Is. If A Tree Shape Is Round Or Symmetrical, Even Though It Has Beautiful Colors The Viewer Will Get Bored With It. For A Painting To Work It Needs Nice Shapes And Beautiful Colors. Do NOT Settle for Less.

Johannes Instructor
02-13-2011, 07:02 PM
I realize I was strict when I commented on some of your photos but I really wanted to get the idea acrosss real crystal clear. There is an everlasting abundance of beautiful well supportive photos. You do not have to settle for less.

patsbeads
02-13-2011, 07:36 PM
I am wondering if others are having the same problems as I am with this exercise. The problem I am having is that the photos that I have in my personal library of photos isn't making it easy to find good references. I have learned now why the photos I have don't work in paintings , but now I will need to get out there and search for better abstract images to photograph.(Winter in Montana isn't cooperating...LOL) I hope this comment is appropriate in this thread. If not, I appologise

Brasstownartist
02-13-2011, 08:07 PM
Lots of trees!

Johannes Instructor
02-13-2011, 08:13 PM
I am wondering if others are having the same problems as I am with this exercise. The problem I am having is that the photos that I have in my personal library of photos isn't making it easy to find good references. I have learned now why the photos I have don't work in paintings , but now I will need to get out there and search for better abstract images to photograph.(Winter in Montana isn't cooperating...LOL) I hope this comment is appropriate in this thread. If not, I appologise

OH YES!!!! I AM GETTING THRU TO YOU!!

Johannes Instructor
02-13-2011, 08:15 PM
Here are a couple of trees.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/10245-july-2010_09edit-for-class.jpg [/IMG]
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/10245-dec-2009_038=edit-for-class.jpg
Amen but the idea is for you not to restructure the shape. The idea is for you to find a shape that represents a model tree.

Johannes Instructor
02-13-2011, 08:18 PM
Let me me clarify. Please post photos of trees, rocks, streams, evergreens, waterfalls etc that appear in a pleasing abstract way. This means do not post average shapes. Please look for nature's gems. Keep hunting. Look at your lesson 6 handout to see what an abstract shape means.

singsong
02-13-2011, 08:24 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/759462-treeshape.jpg
I found this tree, in the background of a photo. I liked it's shape but I did change it's top line a bit. It was more rounded across the top in the original.

singsong
02-13-2011, 08:54 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/759462-waterfall.jpg

oils4me
02-13-2011, 08:55 PM
I did a couple of versions of this..here is the original photo...kind of a flat boring line, and then I tried to apply the principles I'm learning about more melodic lines, abstract shapes in the positive and negative spaces...would like to know what you think...I did another one too, it was fun and kind of difficult too to make them random shapes...and to keep the line simple...I hope I accomplished that here...thanks Johannes, I'm learning so much from your workshop...:) You may use in your workshop...

etdavis6
02-13-2011, 08:57 PM
In this photo I've outlined abstract masses and cropped at the bottom so there is a lead-in to the photo. The negative space of the rock is filled with the rest of the Arizona landscape. Not sure if I was successful in uploading photo. I've tried to upload it a few different ways.
Johannes may use this photo for his online art webinar.

Valerieart
02-13-2011, 10:40 PM
I tried to get my idea across in paint. I may not have done enough. Should I have cropped the background out all together? The original has more ocean i the forground with a line of waves which I cropped out.

arp8nter
02-13-2011, 10:43 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/79422-Copy_of_LittleMoinWinter_with_line.jpg

winecountry
02-14-2011, 01:07 AM
surf was huge today, posting because I think almost all of this is abstract shapes. I knocked off a couple of protrusions, and got rid of one triangle and one big ball of foam

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/103030-Duncans_Landing_5078.jpg

LAyers
02-14-2011, 01:19 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/120844-1158a.jpg

Lynn 592
02-14-2011, 01:24 AM
Here's my first attempt.

ElaineV
02-14-2011, 10:35 AM
One I drew on -- one I didn't - Taken at Lake Lucern, Switzerland


http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/vechorik/JVmtnLAMPS.jpg


http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/vechorik/JVmtnOrig.jpg

ElaineV
02-14-2011, 11:10 AM
The plants and roof lines make nice abstract shapes

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/1046-JohannesLargeDSE.jpg

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/vechorik/alsace6.jpg

EDIT: Normal size image substituted,

carol_lee
02-14-2011, 12:03 PM
Really messed up with the last batch I posted... mainly because I thought we were to isolate abstract shapes ... rocks/skies/etc...now i hope I got the lesson right... original tree

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/58142-EGedi-12-07_13-wb.jpg

Outlined shapes..pruned the tree a bit opening more sky gaps.. labeled planes and smudged leaf areas

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/58142-EGedi-12-07_sk.jpg

Hope to find some more interesting images...

LynnM
02-14-2011, 12:20 PM
Abstract shapes

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/97813-AS-Spencer-creek-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/97813-AS-Rock-and-moss.jpg

maxdawn
02-14-2011, 02:38 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/12193-homework2.jpg

Ok I have edit this one to make a more pleasing visual shore line on both sides and removed some trees on the right to give it a more abstract look
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please delete the above message from me....:crossfingers:

LynnM
02-14-2011, 04:30 PM
I think this is a better one

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/97813-AS-bridge-at-Cranberry-bog.jpg

Dharma_bum
02-14-2011, 04:34 PM
Another go at this...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/41430-locust_tree.jpg

I don't know how to use the various tools, tried to indicate what I'd do with just the brush: create a subtle pathway through the weeds, clear out a couple of bushes, "X", eliminate the large X'd pine to open up the background into the field, push the left background trees farther back - that could have been more melodic than I made it. The main tree shape could be lightened in value to bring it out more, and I see I have a couple of tangents in the near left evergreens that need to be taken care of.

Dan

Zanart
02-14-2011, 06:04 PM
I added a more melodic shape for the mountain in the background and I grouped my trees together to form more interesting shapes. The rocks were grouped to make larger shapes. I took this photo and I give Johannes permission to use it and waive any copyrights.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/63367-DSC03234abc.JPG

spirothet
02-14-2011, 06:34 PM
665292I chose this photo from Flickr.com. I tried to use paint to mark the photo but I couldn't save it to download onto WC. I like the spaces between the tree branches, the sky spaces in the tree, as well as the shadows under the tree. I looked through many photos and each time found fault with them based on what you pointed out to us in the webinar.

I like this second picture as well. I like the abstract shapes in the red tree on the left as well as the trees and bushes on the right. Also the sky shape on the left. I also like the shape of the tree branches hanging in the foreground.

surob
02-14-2011, 06:47 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/100874-DSC00732.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/100874-Interesting_shapes.jpg

Pinklady219
02-14-2011, 06:54 PM
I worked on two pics in Paint. I've attached the original and my edits in the next pic. Arrows were used in the areas I would change. (I hope I know what I am doing -- fingers crossed here)

Johannes Instructor
02-14-2011, 09:12 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13202782#post13202782
Please refer to page 2 on this thread for a clear understanding of abstract shapes.

Johannes Instructor
02-14-2011, 09:13 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/100874-DSC00732.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/100874-Interesting_shapes.jpg

These are not abstract. All the barrels are lined up like ducks at a shooting gallery.

Johannes Instructor
02-14-2011, 09:14 PM
I'm Not Asking You To Outline Shapes In Photos (any Shape) I Am Asking You To Find Abstract Non-symmetrical Shapes.

Johannes Instructor
02-14-2011, 09:16 PM
I worked on two pics in Paint. I've attached the original and my edits in the next pic. Arrows were used in the areas I would change. (I hope I know what I am doing -- fingers crossed here)
Sorry that mountain is not a pleasing shape. Look how the protrusion has two equal sides.

Johannes Instructor
02-14-2011, 09:20 PM
PLEASE REFER TO THIS LINK FOR MORE INFO ON NON SYMMETRICAL SHAPES.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=895212&page=2

Lynn 592
02-14-2011, 09:58 PM
Better?

allydoodle
02-14-2011, 10:07 PM
This is my photo, I give Johannes permission to use this photo in his lessons.

Most of the abstract shapes in this photo come from the shadows in the grasses. That was what had attracted me to it in the first place. I've always wanted to paint this, (changing the colors of course, to ochres and neutrals - too much green as it is). I think I feel more confident in giving it a go now, as I am looking at how to lay it out a bit better. Blocking in the underpainting first using these shapes would be my approach, and it feels very logical to do now. I would probably change the shape of that tree on the left, I'm not that happy with it in the photo. I would also put a distant plane of trees behind the distant ones already there (I didn't put it in, as Johannes asked to just outline existing shapes, not to create new ones). IRL, there is a distant tree plane, the height difference needs to be increased so it can be seen better.

Anyway, here is my photo:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/93075-sunken_meadow_creek_cropped_abstract_shapes.JPG

beejane
02-14-2011, 10:32 PM
The centre tree-not digitally altered.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/99014-center_tree.JPG

lonelm
02-14-2011, 10:36 PM
All of my abstract shapes are trees. In all cases the photos are my own and I give permission for them to be used in the class.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-Elora_Gorge_Oct_84-abstract_tree.jpg


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-IMG_0044.jpg



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-IMG_0049.jpg



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-IMG_1843.jpg



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-IMG_1920.jpg

horsthh
02-14-2011, 10:45 PM
I would like to paint this scene from the Oregon Cascades, first photo is the original version, the second photo points out some of the areas I think need to change after incorporating some of the things I learned.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/95516-sunrise3_finger_Jack.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/95516-sunrise3_finger_Jack_edited-2.jpg

Grainne
02-14-2011, 11:15 PM
My Homework

Abstract shaped rock

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/28471-Abstract-Rock-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/28471-Abstract-Trees-2.jpg

Abstract shaped Lake

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/28471-Abstract-Lake-2.jpg


Grainne "Kaye"

winecountry
02-14-2011, 11:36 PM
big coastal "rock" formations

really huge, and has an interesting (IMO) form

horsthh
02-14-2011, 11:55 PM
Abstract shapes, from the #82 posthttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/95516-sunrise3_finger_Jack.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/95516-sunrise3_finger_Jack_poster.jpg

ElaineV
02-15-2011, 10:05 AM
snow cabin photo taken Sturgis Mississippi Feb 2011

Jon
02-15-2011, 10:30 AM
Helpful clarification post regarding this assignment from Johannes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13202142&postcount=21






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raxu
02-15-2011, 10:44 AM
nature is full of abstract shapes - I like to look deeper and found these on the rocks, just as an example of abstract shapes.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/171274-m_rock_abstract_1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/171274-m_rock_abstract_3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/171274-m_rockabstract_5.jpg

these can be found on all rocks on the taiga forest zone in Finland

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/171274-m_IMG_7252m.jpg

wetbob
02-15-2011, 11:14 AM
Landscape snorkeling in old photos is very difficult. Often the clone alert goes of. May be a nice idea to send in your best clone from nature.
It s nice to do, Landscape snorkeling.

wetbob
02-15-2011, 11:20 AM
Helpful clarification post regarding this assignment from Johannes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...2&postcount=21

Vloothuis definition abstract shape:
Here is the handout for class number 6. Just click on the link below

Attached Imageshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/images/attach/pdf.gifHandout class 6 photos to painting.pdf (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=663882&d=1297610205) (231.5 KB, 422 views)

I THINK MANY SHAPES POSTED DON T LOOK LIKE AN ABSTRACT SHAPE ACCORDING THIS DEFINITION

callady
02-15-2011, 11:32 AM
two images which I feel have good abstract shapes.

May I say I'm loving your class and learning so much! I'm finding I'm land snorkeling while driving around from place to place. Thank you for opening my eyes.

Lynn 592
02-15-2011, 11:34 AM
Abstract shaped tree.

callady
02-15-2011, 11:34 AM
the second image.....hope it comes thru this time.

callady
02-15-2011, 11:40 AM
Why can't I lower the pixels on some photos so I can post here. I'm using photoshop elements #7. I can go in and resize to a smaller size pic. but the pixels stay the same....waaaay over the limit to what this website will accept.

wetbob
02-15-2011, 11:43 AM
Why can't I lower the pixels on some photos so I can post here. I'm using photoshop elements #7. I can go in and resize to a smaller size pic. but the pixels stay the same....waaaay over the limit to what this website will accept.

I guess you re able to change the pixels. You can use another program too. But we can see your image, why you need changes/something else?

sweetapplez
02-15-2011, 12:21 PM
Callady, if you shot the pic in high resolution that could be your problem. Make a copy of your photo and use the copy to downsize your resolution to 72 then go on to resizing it.

nana b
02-15-2011, 12:44 PM
This seems pretty abstract.

callady
02-15-2011, 12:46 PM
that's what so weird....same digital camera. Some photos I can go in and make the photo smaller and then the pixels change automatically but one that I wanted to post won't allow me to do that.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 12:47 PM
Vloothuis definition abstract shape:
Here is the handout for class number 6. Just click on the link below



I THINK MANY SHAPES POSTED DON T LOOK LIKE AN ABSTRACT SHAPE ACCORDING THIS DEFINITION

That's correct! I still don't see enough abstract shape submissions. There is confusion between shapes that have beautiful colors vrs beautiful abstract shapes from nature. Like I typed earlier don't be impressed by an autumn tree that has nice colors but is too much of an oval or a circle without nice indentations. The criteria has to be met in both areas, that is beautiful colors AND abstract shape. It is not beautiful colors and/or abstract chapes. That is why we are doing this. This is where the problem begins why most artists are having issues with their designs. I will be insisting until we break thru and you will see your art work will take on a new meaning. The human eye is very demanding and if you want the view to contemplate something on a small surface such as 16 X 20 or 18 X 24 you better make sure you make those few square inches extremely interesting if you want to demand their attention.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 12:49 PM
This seems pretty abstract.

yes that one is ok

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 12:51 PM
the second image.....hope it comes thru this time.

yes that shape that substitutes a real tree is pleasing and entertaining.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 12:51 PM
Remember an entertaining shape is not a curious oddity but a handsomely designed shape.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 12:52 PM
Better?

Yes, Lyn that is abstract.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 12:54 PM
The centre tree-not digitally altered.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/99014-center_tree.JPG

The tree in the center has too much of a protusion and it is pointing away from the focal point. That would need to be changed in the painting.

DAK723
02-15-2011, 12:54 PM
Why can't I lower the pixels on some photos so I can post here. I'm using photoshop elements #7. I can go in and resize to a smaller size pic. but the pixels stay the same....waaaay over the limit to what this website will accept.

Make sure you check the "Resample Image" box. Hopefully this will solve the problem.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:02 PM
All of my abstract shapes are trees. In all cases the photos are my own and I give permission for them to be used in the class.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-Elora_Gorge_Oct_84-abstract_tree.jpg

Square head must go!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-IMG_0044.jpg
This tree is symmetrical, two equal sides. Don't get attracted to the colors you need a pleasing shape as well. Both criteria must be met if you want the viewer to enjoy your painting more. Squint your eyes, then look at it.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-IMG_0049.jpg

Not bad overall but all those little protrusions sticking out will make the viewer work too hard to "roll" his eyes around the contour of that tree. Also many sky holes trap the demanding and strict viewer's eye. Look at John Budicin's tree shapes if you want to see what I mean by the eye "rolling" over the contour of the shape in a graceful way.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-IMG_1843.jpg

This tree above is delicious!:clap:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/212898-IMG_1920.jpg
Yummy if we can close in those little protrusions at the right.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:13 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/120844-1158a.jpg

The ridge of those hills have too many equal bumps. I would not pay to take a roller coaster ride over the tops of them. If you add mor concave or convex protrusions then I will line up to pay a ticket for the ride. EYE MOVEMENT IS VITAL IN ALL PAINTINGS!!

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:14 PM
I would like to paint this scene from the Oregon Cascades, first photo is the original version, the second photo points out some of the areas I think need to change after incorporating some of the things I learned.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/95516-sunrise3_finger_Jack.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/95516-sunrise3_finger_Jack_edited-2.jpg
TRIANGLE ALERT BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER!

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:17 PM
My Homework

Abstract shaped rock

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/28471-Abstract-Rock-2.jpg
NOPE! 2 EQUAL SIDES! They run parallel.


Abstract shaped Lake

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/28471-Abstract-Lake-2.jpg

Grainne "Kaye"
Yes lake is abstract enough to use it but.... I would kill those two negative spaced cloned triangles.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:20 PM
The plants and roof lines make nice abstract shapes

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/1046-JohannesLargeDSE.jpg

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/vechorik/alsace6.jpg

EDIT: Normal size image substituted,

The roof lines are melodic. The ABSTRACT shape that results from those variations in lines is the white sky. Flip it upside down and you will see that.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:24 PM
Lots of trees!

Those mini protrusion are not strong enough to offset the triangle shape that we would understand as the sky. Hey take them cave exploring! Create nice entertaining deeper concave indentations so the viewer can explores more.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:26 PM
Really messed up with the last batch I posted... mainly because I thought we were to isolate abstract shapes ... rocks/skies/etc...now i hope I got the lesson right... original tree

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/58142-EGedi-12-07_13-wb.jpg

Outlined shapes..pruned the tree a bit opening more sky gaps.. labeled planes and smudged leaf areas

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/58142-EGedi-12-07_sk.jpg

Hope to find some more interesting images...
Shapes work OOPS those two trunks can wear the same pants size. You want that to be more fun to see??? Then vary the diameter of one of the three trunks.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:29 PM
My Homework

Abstract shaped rock



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/28471-Abstract-Trees-2.jpg

Abstract shaped Lake





Grainne "Kaye"
I would date the tree on the left. Get rid of the chaperone on the right. That tree is the uglt duckling in that family. He can take a hike while I hug the tree on the left and yes I am a tree hugger ok?

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:33 PM
big coastal "rock" formations

really huge, and has an interesting (IMO) form
Sorry Colleen I bumped my head against this rock while swimming. This shape won't work.
a) Two mirrored side, parallel lines
b) Lin at the bottom of the rock meeting water is straight.

Keep digging Colleen! Show me a ROCK Hudson shape!! wink!

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:35 PM
Non Symmetrical shapes are like songs you want to hear them over and over.... I mean see it over and over. The painting has to be MUSICAL!!
Am I getting thru my beloved friends??

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:39 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2011/12193-homework2.jpg

Ok I have edit this one to make a more pleasing visual shore line on both sides and removed some trees on the right to give it a more abstract look


Yep that shape has nice lines. Notice the variations of both sides!

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:41 PM
snow cabin photo taken Sturgis Mississippi Feb 2011

Warning Will Smith, danger! There is a triangle at the bottom.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:43 PM
nature is full of abstract shapes - I like to look deeper and found these on the rocks, just as an example of abstract shapes.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/171274-m_rock_abstract_1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/171274-m_rock_abstract_3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/171274-m_rockabstract_5.jpg

these can be found on all rocks on the taiga forest zone in Finland

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/171274-m_IMG_7252m.jpg

You are confusing nature's oddities and attenton grabbing photos that make good conversation pieces but once the story is told I would lose interest in going back over and over again to contemplate a painting based on that over my fireplace.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 01:48 PM
Think about this. Imagine how beautiful and jaw dropping a painting has to be for someone to pay thousands of dollars for and will be looking at the same painting over his fireplace for many years. You'd better be sure the beauty of that painting is intense or he will feel sorry he bought it. You must push yourself to the max to find shapes that are irresistabley beautiful. There is no margin here. That's why I am so insistant on this.
PLEASE REFER TO THIS LINK FOR MORE INFO ON NON SYMMETRICAL SHAPES.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/show...=895212&page=2

winecountry
02-15-2011, 01:55 PM
Sorry Colleen I bumped my head against this rock while swimming. This shape won't work.
a) Two mirrored side, parallel lines
b) Lin at the bottom of the rock meeting water is straight.

Keep digging Colleen! Show me a ROCK Hudson shape!! wink!

I don't know which one you were looking at this is the one I posted early on in the thread and I can't find the places you are pointing out, can you show me please?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/103030-jo_exercise_abstract_shape-1.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 02:22 PM
I don't know which one you were looking at this is the one I posted early on in the thread and I can't find the places you are pointing out, can you show me please?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/103030-jo_exercise_abstract_shape-1.jpg

the isolated rock one. The system didnt take the picture

callady
02-15-2011, 02:27 PM
Trying to get my second photo posted. I think I've shrunk it down properly now. Over to the left was trying to show more of a meandering path leading from the left to the flowers and then the beach.

winecountry
02-15-2011, 02:31 PM
the isolated rock one. The system didnt take the picture

I know that one, don't know how it got posted, I had it on my screen as a not good example....but this one is on the thread just very early... so since you didn't comment I assume this one meets the criteria?

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 03:31 PM
I know that one, don't know how it got posted, I had it on my screen as a not good example....but this one is on the thread just very early... so since you didn't comment I assume this one meets the criteria?
Yes much better with lead in

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 03:32 PM
I don't know which one you were looking at this is the one I posted early on in the thread and I can't find the places you are pointing out, can you show me please?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/103030-jo_exercise_abstract_shape-1.jpg

This is not the photo I am referring to it is the other one with the solitary rock.

buddingartist
02-15-2011, 03:34 PM
Found this pic in the image library a long time ago.

I cropped the sky out and I would not paint clouds
The far right rock was good but I brought it higher and tried to give it a melodic line (filled it up with colors available)
Reduced the rock on the left side (too round) and too far out in the water as I felt it interrupted the lead in.
Filled in the water with the blue available
Group of rocks at the bottom on the right were lumped in together
Circled what I thought were abstract shapes in GREEN

Original
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/51625-Ghar_Lapsi_original_resized.jpg

Modified
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/51625-Ghar_Lapsi_Cropped,_abst,_resized.jpg

Oh baby, this is tough. I realized that all my <wow, that would make a good painting pictures< are garbage :lol:

What a learning experience
Louise

surob
02-15-2011, 03:44 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/100874-abstractshape.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/100874-abstractshape2.jpg

Ruthie57
02-15-2011, 04:11 PM
Here goes.....

The trees below are pleasing abstract shapes to me

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/189061-IMG_6793.JPG

And I like the waterfall in this though the rocks on the RH side need some work. I know, I've painted this one.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/189061-IMG_1097.JPG

tvandeb
02-15-2011, 05:58 PM
I was out four hours driving and I only came up with three; all trees. The shapes I think are right. Here they are;http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/71359-tree2.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/71359-tree3.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/71359-tree4.JPG

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Here goes.....

The trees below are pleasing abstract shapes to me

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/189061-IMG_6793.JPG

And I like the waterfall in this though the rocks on the RH side need some work. I know, I've painted this one.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/189061-IMG_1097.JPG

Yes the fall is a beauty queen. You can still find better Miss Universe trees. The one in the back looks quite good as long as it is grouped with the others. By itself it would fit into a circlular chocolate box.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 06:21 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/100874-abstractshape.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/100874-abstractshape2.jpg

The puddle is abstract. The line the runs across the rocks has a few protrusions but not enough to slow the ye down so it follows that contour gracefully. Remember this is not about painting rocks and water. This is about painting designed shapes and graceful melodic lines that the viewer follows and processes the info. Once you give these shapes their forms the viewer falls for the illusion that they are rocks and water. But you as the artist do not think that way. You structure all this into designed shapes (abstract shapes) and musical lines. The viewer likes a painting (believe it or not) not because of accuracy of depicting the various ladscape objects but because the right brain enjoys seeing beautiful shapes. This is where you the artist communicate. Isn't this all just facinating and the missing link so neglected in art instruction?

susanc
02-15-2011, 07:47 PM
Abstract tree silhouette--Here's our current hometown contender for the world title. :crossfingers:

That symmetrical hill behind it is unfortunately our most famous local landmark! Hang-gliders start out there, our town initial is emblazoned proudly near the top, and every two years it mysteriously erupts in some sort of spontaneous combustion. It makes the local news on a regular basis. Its shape desperately needs altering--I can't wait to see whether I can get away with it or not!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/1697-abstract_copy.jpg

winecountry
02-15-2011, 08:14 PM
Isn't this all just facinating and the missing link so neglected in art instruction?

Amen!

Judibelle
02-15-2011, 08:31 PM
Here are 2 trees that seem abstract:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/103700-scan0008.jpg_2_cropped_trees.jpg

and one more:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/103700-scan0007.jpg_single_tree_abstract.jpg

Hope these work...

Nansketch
02-15-2011, 08:48 PM
Here are 3 for review --

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/141858-abs-shps-tree4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/141858-abs-shps-tree3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/141858-abs-shps-stream.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 09:27 PM
Here are 3 for review --

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/141858-abs-shps-tree4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/141858-abs-shps-tree3.jpg


Amen on the first tree!Still follow your line on the second tree. It is still repetitive on the protrusions.

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 09:39 PM
Abstract tree silhouette--Here's our current hometown contender for the world title. :crossfingers:

That symmetrical hill behind it is unfortunately our most famous local landmark! Hang-gliders start out there, our town initial is emblazoned proudly near the top, and every two years it mysteriously erupts in some sort of spontaneous combustion. It makes the local news on a regular basis. Its shape desperately needs altering--I can't wait to see whether I can get away with it or not! You could make the contour line of the hill more melodic. Would you be willing to alter it? Tree is abstract.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/1697-abstract_copy.jpg
Again we look for strong designs in photos not areas that make conversation pieces. This also applies to painting boring landmarks. For that take a photo and write a description on the back of it. Just take into account that the viewer will see that painting every day and will revisit it over and over again like playing his favorite song over and over. He should be rewarded when he looks at it. He does not have to reward the painting. The painting rewards him.

Misty Mountain
02-15-2011, 10:15 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/54780-mountain_scenery.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-15-2011, 10:19 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/54780-mountain_scenery.jpg
The triangle shapes you are indicating are not abstract shapes. Those shapes as they appear in the photo would not never make a good painting.

flowergirl
02-15-2011, 10:53 PM
Here are a few photos with abstract shapes (all my photos)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/59895-Waterfall_abstract_shapes.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/59895-Tidal_Pool_Abstract_shapes.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/59895-frozen_wetlands_abstract.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/59895-Peonies_abstract_shapes.jpg

Hope these "pass"! Thanks for all the great advice and guidance.
Sharon in Vermont

Yabut
02-15-2011, 11:19 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/52194-Pats_garden_abstract.jpg

I picked out 5 today, but once I started drawing lines, I discarded the others. I'll go abstract hunting again on Thursday.

Yabut

susanc
02-16-2011, 12:28 AM
Again we look for strong designs in photos not areas that make conversation pieces. This also applies to painting boring landmarks. For that take a photo and write a description on the back of it. Just take into account that the viewer will see that painting every day and will revisit it over and over again like playing his favorite song over and over. He should be rewarded when he looks at it. He does not have to reward the painting. The painting rewards him. I like that. And I don't think I could be entirely happy with it if it had a bad shape as the main area now. It would feel like a failure to me instead of a success.

Judibelle
02-16-2011, 09:15 AM
Here is my tree outlined. Had a difficult time figuring out how to get it out of 'paint' to upload.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/103700-1_tree_outlined.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-16-2011, 09:53 AM
Here are a few photos with abstract shapes (all my photos)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/59895-Waterfall_abstract_shapes.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/59895-Tidal_Pool_Abstract_shapes.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/59895-frozen_wetlands_abstract.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Feb-2011/59895-Peonies_abstract_shapes.jpg

Hope these "pass"! Thanks for all the great advice and guidance.
Sharon in Vermont

Yes, overall good decisions. The bolder in the first picture at the top left is too symmetrical though. The watermelon slice in the second picture is not abstract. the flowers are abstract because they vary in size.

Pinklady219
02-16-2011, 10:04 AM
All this searching may be paying off. I am really getting the idea that it is extremely difficult to find abstract objects. Perhaps everyone should take Johannes classes!! Thanks Johannes.

Johannes Instructor
02-16-2011, 10:25 AM
All this searching may be paying off. I am really getting the idea that it is extremely difficult to find abstract objects. Perhaps everyone should take Johannes classes!! Thanks Johannes.
The tree shape at the left and the tree shape on the right are abstract. The one in the middle is hard for the viewer to process. The eye does not "roll" nicely enough and needs to play dart board to convert the image in the brain. Thanks for your compliment what i would say is that every artist should understand what design is and understand abstract shapes and designs.

Ruthie57
02-16-2011, 12:11 PM
Yes the fall is a beauty queen. You can still find better Miss Universe trees. The one in the back looks quite good as long as it is grouped with the others. By itself it would fit into a circlular chocolate box.

I'm looking for MR Universe trees! lol

carol_lee
02-16-2011, 01:25 PM
yes I thought that same thing once I outlined both!!
Really getting a lot out of this course.

wetbob
02-16-2011, 02:03 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/100299-astr1.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/100299-astr4.jpg

Misty Mountain
02-16-2011, 02:21 PM
The triangle shapes you are indicating are not abstract shapes. Those shapes as they appear in the photo would not never make a good painting.
Thanks..After looking at some of the shapes, I am getting more of an understanding of what to look for.

Zanart
02-16-2011, 02:47 PM
I had to really dig for these. I think searching for abstract shapes is sinking in more. I will be more critical of this when I take pictures in the future. Trouble uploading. will try later.

Rosemarie
02-16-2011, 03:29 PM
I have been through my photos on the computer twice before I found this one that has abstract shapes and a melodic line in the mountains.
I hope I am starting to understand the abstracts shapes. I have tons of flower photos that could have abstract shapes though.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5107/ischgl2004nr169.png (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/ischgl2004nr169.png/)

pjreads
02-16-2011, 03:39 PM
attractive abstract tree?
Is it okay that the contour of the protrusions on the left is so similar to the contour of the cavity on the right?

surob
02-16-2011, 03:45 PM
Remember this is not about painting rocks and water. This is about painting designed shapes and graceful melodic lines that the viewer follows and processes the info. Once you give these shapes their forms the viewer falls for the illusion that they are rocks and water. But you as the artist do not think that way. You structure all this into designed shapes (abstract shapes) and musical lines. The viewer likes a painting (believe it or not) not because of accuracy of depicting the various ladscape objects but because the right brain enjoys seeing beautiful shapes. This is where you the artist communicate. Isn't this all just facinating and the missing link so neglected in art instruction?

It seems like you are putting in a great amount of time with this project. I am very grateful for that. I have been through hundreds of photos, that by the way are GREAT photos. You have made me aware that great photos do not make great paintings. I think I am going to have to try to go out "land sharking" as you say. Not much nature in Fort Wayne, IN. Who knows what I will find. Thank you again for your dedication to this project.

Zanart
02-16-2011, 04:40 PM
Here are some abstract shapes.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/63367-DSC03395a2.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-16-2011, 06:03 PM
I have been through my photos on the computer twice before I found this one that has abstract shapes and a melodic line in the mountains.
I hope I am starting to understand the abstracts shapes. I have tons of flower photos that could have abstract shapes though.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5107/ischgl2004nr169.png (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/ischgl2004nr169.png/)

Remember one of the things I indicated in thsi course is to avoid mirrored sides. Notice how the everegreen areas are indentical on both side. If you crop this photo where that tall evregreen starts on the right, you will see this photo will look much better. Try it and upload it again here for all of us to see.

Johannes Instructor
02-16-2011, 06:04 PM
Here are some abstract shapes.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/63367-DSC03395a2.jpg

yes I will admit they are all abstract enough ..... but ..... but the big ones you are indicating are the same size. When converted to a painting it will take a toll.

Johannes Instructor
02-16-2011, 06:25 PM
attractive abstract tree?
Is it okay that the contour of the protrusions on the left is so similar to the contour of the cavity on the right?
That tree is meatballey at the left but at least it has two different sides.

Analia
02-16-2011, 06:55 PM
Here are my pictures.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/201911-P1000897.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/201911-P1000946.jpg

I see them pretty abstract, let's see if I have to change my glasses :)

Analia
02-16-2011, 07:12 PM
My last one.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/201911-P1150069.jpg

pjreads
02-16-2011, 07:23 PM
That tree is meatballey at the left but at least it has two different sides.

Oh, meatballs!! :eek:
... must be time for spaghetti and a bottle of wine ... then back to the search tomorrow

jmcedeno
02-16-2011, 07:32 PM
These rocks I shot in Monterey CA.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/159973-Abstract_Shapes-1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/159973-Abstract_Shapes-2-2011-13-21-02-968.jpg

LynnM
02-16-2011, 08:40 PM
I think the large evergreen is OK, I hope!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/97813-AS-Junction-of-Gila-rivers.jpg

aspiring_artist
02-16-2011, 11:36 PM
I am amazed at how much more observant I am becoming after just a few classes.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/146079-abstract_shapes.jpg

IrmaH322
02-16-2011, 11:49 PM
I will have to take new photos or modify everything I have.The tree trunk is ugly.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/678892-072_edited-3.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/678892-107_edited-4.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/678892-B0004543_edited-2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/678892-012_edited-3.jpg

B4painter
02-17-2011, 12:42 AM
Well, I too am having a time trying to find an abstract tree! I have alot of trees in my photos but none that are actually abstract. So I will attatch these 2 and look for some more. The one with the trees could be considered a convex shape too I am thinking of taking it back out!
Johannes can I just paint up a couple of trees that are abstract? and submit them? can't believe how hard it is to find a nice abstract tree in the dead of winter.
You'll be happy to know you're not in Edmonton now! It was a mild -21C today....brrrrrr

Rosemarie
02-17-2011, 01:02 AM
Yes, You are right, Johannes!
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/428/ischgl2004nr1692.png (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/ischgl2004nr1692.png/)

northbank
02-17-2011, 01:05 AM
OK, here are my submissions for some abstract trees.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/846392-913_sunset.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/846392-DSC_8239.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/846392-DSC_9587_0133.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/846392-DSCF1570.jpg

The trees are all straight in this one, but the foliage is quite abstract as are the patches of sunlight I think.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/846392-Yaksoforest1.jpg

I think the top of the tree line in this one is pretty good for variety of heights and gaps.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/846392-DSC_6517.jpg

Good mountains??
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/846392-DSC_8152.jpg

And finally some rocks......
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/846392-DSCF0040.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/846392-DSCF1379.jpg

I feel this last one is a bit repetitive on the smaller left hand rocks.
Diane

LAyers
02-17-2011, 01:18 AM
Like everyone else I have been going through a lot of photos, many of which are quite good as photos but, boy, those melodic lines and absract shapes are hard to find! I was trying to do a scene with rocks once and when I saw that they were all looking like VW Beetles and basted turkeys I took my camera and went into our field and woods taking pictures of rocks. Today I went through all 75 photos and didn't find any that were interestingly abstract. But here are a couple of things I did find interesting.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/120844-gnarly_tree_07.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/120844-1048_group_people_outlined.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/120844-379_Caerhays_trees_outlined.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/120844-660_shrub_outlined.jpg

hewill4giveu
02-17-2011, 05:01 AM
http://wetcanvas.com/forums/images/attach/jpg.gif abstract rock 2.jpg (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=667312&stc=1&d=1297936730) (52.5 KB)

http://wetcanvas.com/forums/images/attach/jpg.gif Fall tree.jpg (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=667322&stc=1&d=1297936730) (105.7 KB)

http://wetcanvas.com/forums/images/attach/jpg.gif two abstract trees.jpg (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=667332&stc=1&d=1297936730) (61.3 KB)

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 08:30 AM
Well, I too am having a time trying to find an abstract tree! I have alot of trees in my photos but none that are actually abstract. So I will attatch these 2 and look for some more. The one with the trees could be considered a convex shape too I am thinking of taking it back out!
Johannes can I just paint up a couple of trees that are abstract? and submit them? can't believe how hard it is to find a nice abstract tree in the dead of winter.
You'll be happy to know you're not in Edmonton now! It was a mild -21C today....brrrrrr
That shape is not abstract. The negative space is the same in both top corners. Yes you can submt painted tree shapes. As long as they are not symmetrical.

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 08:35 AM
Like everyone else I have been going through a lot of photos, many of which are quite good as photos but, boy, those melodic lines and absract shapes are hard to find! I was trying to do a scene with rocks once and when I saw that they were all looking like VW Beetles and basted turkeys I took my camera and went into our field and woods taking pictures of rocks. Today I went through all 75 photos and didn't find any that were interestingly abstract. But here are a couple of things I did find interesting.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/120844-1048_group_people_outlined.jpg

Yes, you got it! Especially the one of the people. You are now seeing that instead of regarding each person individually, you grouped them together as one unit. The opposite sides of the grouping of those figures is different, the negative space formed between the elbow and the guy on the left is definitely abstract. VERY GOOD! That's how it is done. So the viewer sees the painting in general large masses such as several evergreens grouped together. etc. I think people reading this will really understand what a good absract shape is because we are not showing a tree or rock in the case above. Still these principles apply to rocks and trees etc. This photo here proves to me now that you do understand the HUGE implications is abstract shape designing.

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 08:44 AM
Good mountains??
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/846392-DSC_8152.jpg




When you sare asking, "good mountains?" you are still identifying it as a mountain. There is no such thing as a 4 inch mountain. IT IS A SHAPE! and as such must be treated as such. Now also the shape above that "mountain shape" which we would INTERPRET as the sky is another shape which becomes the NEGATIVE shape ans as such must be treated by you the artist as a shape and nothing more. Now look at the negative shapes and you will see what???? A "V" has formed that is too symmetrical. When you identify this you would not even have to ask the question.

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 08:50 AM
I had to really dig for these. I think searching for abstract shapes is sinking in more. I will be more critical of this when I take pictures in the future. Trouble uploading. will try later.

Taking photos partially solves the problem. Sometimes to find that one rare photos that has a great subject PLUS abstract shapes in the rest of it is like a diamond. "I I will be more critical" will have to apply to your actual design when you are planning the painting so you end up with pleasing abstract designs.

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 08:53 AM
I will have to take new photos or modify everything I have.The tree trunk is ugly.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/678892-072_edited-3.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/678892-107_edited-4.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/678892-B0004543_edited-2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2011/678892-012_edited-3.jpg

The line of the contour of the shapes identified as the mountain is not melodic enough. Therefore the shape that would be identifies as the sky is not abstract. The small bumps the protrude and the small indentations are not pronounced enough. On the other hand the shape in the second picture that would be identified as a tree is quite abstract.

mcbru
02-17-2011, 08:54 AM
Here are my abstract shapes. Thanks for the input.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/57396-abstract_shapes.jpg

surob
02-17-2011, 11:17 AM
Okay. I am going out on a limb here. I think that I am getting this. These photos are strictly to show abstract shapes. I don't see a potential painting in any of them. I have just recognized the shapes. Here they are.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/100874-Abstracttree.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/100874-abstracttreegroup.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/100874-rocks.jpg

flowergirl
02-17-2011, 11:41 AM
I "fixed" the too-symetrical rocks in the first photo and tried to fix the "watermelon" in the second. Although I couldn't get it to look good in the photo with photo shop, I would definitely correct it in a painting.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/59895-Waterfall_second_edit.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/59895-Tidal_pool_re_edited.JPG

Thanks for the great advice!
Sharon in Vermont

Yabut
02-17-2011, 12:33 PM
There was no comment on the garden one, so I'll try again. I hope this one works as I've been planning to paint this scene for a while now.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/52194-Old_Slys_cut_abstract.jpg

IrmaH322
02-17-2011, 03:32 PM
Here is another one. I modified a bit some of the shapes and had a real good time; completely forgot I was dealing with a mountain. Maybe the right side of my brain really took over on this one. The shapes may not be good but it was a good experience.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/678892-B0004348_edited-5.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 05:16 PM
Okay. I am going out on a limb here. I think that I am getting this. These photos are strictly to show abstract shapes. I don't see a potential painting in any of them. I have just recognized the shapes. Here they are.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/100874-Abstracttree.jpg



Yes that is abstract. If you put that in a field instead of the usual triangular one you have a ballerina instead of a soldier standing straight

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 05:17 PM
Here is another one. I modified a bit some of the shapes and had a real good time; completely forgot I was dealing with a mountain. Maybe the right side of my brain really took over on this one. The shapes may not be good but it was a good experience.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/678892-B0004348_edited-5.jpg

When we outline these shapes it helps to identify when there are abstract shapes. If there are no we need to change these shapes until they work.

susanc
02-17-2011, 05:49 PM
Oh. I didn't notice earlier that you asked if I'd consider changing the hill! :o

It would be no problem if I treated it like just a generic hill anywhere. :smug: I think the problem is trying to maintain its identity as a landmark, and beautifying the shape, too. My plan was: 1. Angle off the curve of the dome, 2. Give different angles to each side leading up to the former dome, 3. Give different heights to both sides where the hill exits the picture. 4. Think angular, but try to avoid "v"s, equal segment lengths, and equal angle changes.

Despite all that, I'm not sure I succeeded. I might have too much of the original silhouette of the hill still there. I think it's improved, though.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/1697-abstract2_copy.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 06:16 PM
Oh. I didn't notice earlier that you asked if I'd consider changing the hill! :o

It would be no problem if I treated it like just a generic hill anywhere. :smug: I think the problem is trying to maintain its identity as a landmark, and beautifying the shape, too. My plan was: 1. Angle off the curve of the dome, 2. Give different angles to each side leading up to the former dome, 3. Give different heights to both sides where the hill exits the picture. 4. Think angular, but try to avoid "v"s, equal segment lengths, and equal angle changes.

Despite all that, I'm not sure I succeeded. I might have too much of the original silhouette of the hill still there. I think it's improved, though.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/1697-abstract2_copy.jpg

Oh! I love what I am reading!!!

Johannes Instructor
02-17-2011, 06:17 PM
No more photo copiers 'R US!!

KarenB
02-17-2011, 06:23 PM
This is my own photo and I hereby allow it to be used for educational purposes.

Two of the trees and the clouds are somewhat (but not totally) abstract.

K :-)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/33166-WCAbstract.jpg

Misty Mountain
02-17-2011, 09:10 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Feb-2011/54780-Clouds3.jpg

Obion
02-18-2011, 06:18 AM
:wave: I hope I got it right this time

Fiordland Penguin Rocks
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/42526-Art_Fiordland_Crested_Penguin,_West_Coast,.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/42526-Art_abstract_Mountain.jpg

Wharariki Beach
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/42526-ART_Wharariki_Beach,_Golden_Bay,_South_Island.jpg

Mt Ruapehu NZ and Cloudes.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/42526-Mt_Ruapehu_NZ_Cloudes.jpg

Pohutukawa Tree
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/42526-pohutukawa_tree__3.jpg

elisamaria
02-18-2011, 08:44 AM
Abstract shapes
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/735472-P1010942.JPG
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/735472-P1020979.jpg

The photos give me some guiding principles in designing my painting. Hope Johannes gives his consent.

Elisabeth

artastic
02-18-2011, 10:25 AM
there are alot of shapes above the sunken ship, so I think I would keep the water and reflections horizontal to calm
also darken the darks to pop the lights



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/104250-shapes.JPG

Greatblu
02-18-2011, 10:55 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/7080-DSC03039.JPG I hope this is right...abstract images in groupings of trees and individual trees.

Greatblu
02-18-2011, 10:57 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/7080-DSC03039.JPG I hope this is right...abstract images in groupings of trees and individual trees. Please dis-regard the two black dots. I didn't realize they were there.

Greatblu
02-18-2011, 12:32 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/7080-DSC02703.JPG
Sorry about the duplicate images before. Here is another of wild mustard and abstract shapes of rocks.

B4painter
02-18-2011, 01:22 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/68215-tree_acrylic.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/68215-tree_2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/68215-tree_1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/68215-tree_3.jpg

Here's a few more...

Obion
02-18-2011, 04:04 PM
:wave:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/42526-Abstract_tree.jpg

Obion
02-18-2011, 04:14 PM
:crossfingers: Abstract treehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/42526-Abstract_tree.jpg

Sheri Hammond
02-18-2011, 05:42 PM
hi from San Diego Sheri I am going to try and upload some abstract tree shapes, we have alot of trees here and no snow.

Sheri Hammond
02-18-2011, 07:46 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/678462-tree_1.jpg here goes

thepetlady
02-18-2011, 08:48 PM
Hope this goes through
Brendahttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/759622-Fish.JPG

Sheri Hammond
02-18-2011, 08:48 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/678462-tree_shapes_2.jpg

Sheri Hammond
02-18-2011, 08:49 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/678462-tree_shapes_3.jpg

pjreads
02-18-2011, 08:54 PM
Two different sides - yes
Melodic contour lines - yes
Non-repetitive concave & convex indentations & protrusions - yes (except bottom left two protrusions of first image which are very similar)
Nothing lines up - yes
Negative shapes are equally important - yes

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/190233-DSCI0014.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2011/190233-DSCI0017.JPG

pjreads
02-19-2011, 07:04 AM
Photos in posts #201 & #152 were taken by me. All rights are relinquished to Johannes and class.

robertsloan2
02-19-2011, 10:20 AM
Sorry I posted these so late. Permission given for Johannes Vloothuis and WetCanvas Live! to use these photos in class recordings and handouts and whatever.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/70184-Class-homework-abstract-shapes-1.jpg
Shadow of the broken tree looked like an interesting abstract shape to me.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/70184-Class-homework-abstract-shapes-2.jpg
This clump of near vegetation in the Cliffs photo that I'm going to use for my painting is an abstract shape, not the only one in this reference.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/70184-Class-Homework-Abstract-Shapes-3.jpg
This lighter clump of foliage in the pot of flowers photo made a good abstract shape.

I would've done one with rocks but don't have many with rocks. I'm used to doing rocks from life because I've got a large collection of small ones to sketch from. Don't think I used any of these as examples from the last time I posted abstract shapes. If I did use the Cliffs one I think I used a different element in it, like the cliff.

Sheri Hammond
02-19-2011, 01:10 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/678462-tree_shapes_4.jpg

pat-trew
02-19-2011, 01:23 PM
Please upload them before class tomorrow. Landscapes only please. I just want to see singular objects such as trees, rocks, etc. It's ok if they are in context within a landscape photo but there should be abstract landscape objects.

I HAVE TRIED 2 DAYS TO UPLOAD THE PICTURE WITH THE SUBJECT REQUESTED, AND ALL ATTEMPTS HAVE FAILED. SO I MAY BE DOING IT WRONG. I SET MY CAMERA FOR INTERNET SIZE, ANT STILL NOTHING.

Johannes Instructor
02-19-2011, 01:49 PM
I HAVE TRIED 2 DAYS TO UPLOAD THE PICTURE WITH THE SUBJECT REQUESTED, AND ALL ATTEMPTS HAVE FAILED. SO I MAY BE DOING IT WRONG. I SET MY CAMERA FOR INTERNET SIZE, ANT STILL NOTHING.
Please type the message you get when you cannot upload.

Rosemarie
02-19-2011, 01:56 PM
I have also had problems uploading images of correct size. It just doesn't load. Instead I uploaded to the Imagehack.com and pasted the given link to use in forums. There are other sites you can upload images to too. Flickr.com but I can't remember the other ones.

pat-trew
02-19-2011, 02:04 PM
THIS IS A PICTURE OF A PICTURE, I TOOK FROM AN OLD CALENDAR, THE ABSTRACT ARROWS ARE MISSING. THEY BELONG ON THE RIVER, ABSTRACT FORM, THE NON ABSTRACT THAT NEED FIXING ARE THE MOUNTAIN IN BACKGROUND AND SNOW DRIFT IN FRONT OF THE STATION. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/105243-DSCN0587.JPG

Sheri Hammond
02-19-2011, 02:05 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/678462-tree_shapes_5.jpg

pat-trew
02-19-2011, 02:07 PM
[quote=Johannes Instructor]Please type the message you get when you cannot upload.[/quo

I FINALLY GOT IT TO WORK I WENT BACK AND FOUND A PREVIOUS ANSWER FROM ROBERT SLOAN. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

mozapony
02-19-2011, 02:08 PM
I may have over-stepped my homework guide lines, eeps. Please take or toss what is not needed. thanks

original
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/133246-original_P1090776.jpg

suggested modifications, added puddles to break up the railway track, the rectangle, trimmed trees, sky holes, and grasses, changes to the sides of road and back field lines

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../Community/images/19-Feb-2011/133246-field_house_puddles_P1090776_modi.jpg

result

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/133246-field_house_puddles_P1090776_lines_modi.jpg
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rgds
Sandee

Colorix
02-19-2011, 02:26 PM
A funny shape made by heather in snow. Scraggly bush not included.

The bottom line is funnier than the top line.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/117343-Ab-Heather.jpg

Yabut
02-19-2011, 02:35 PM
I posted two photos, on separate days, but neither got a comment, so I don't know if that means that I'm totally off track, or if I got anything right at all. One is a flower garden and one is a pile of rocks with a flowering plant in front of it.

Yabut

JFountain
02-19-2011, 02:54 PM
i HOPE THIS IS GOOD

JFountain
02-19-2011, 02:56 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/775222-The_poconos_028.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/775222-The_poconos_COPY028.jpg

JFountain
02-19-2011, 02:58 PM
[quote=JFountain]http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/775222-The_poconos_028.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/775222-The_poconos_COPY028.jpgiI HOPE THIS IS OKAY

AZSandy
02-19-2011, 04:47 PM
Accidently posted yesterday in: Post your cropped photos thread :o
Sorry I goofed up! :o

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Okie Dokie here goes... This landscape is pretty busy, and I'd be inclined to soften it overall. Here are the 3 stages: before, shapes blocked in, and corrected Not a slick job, but I hope you get the idea:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/338901-ClassImgBefore.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/338901-ClassImgOutlined.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/338901-ClassImgAfter.jpg



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maxdawn
02-19-2011, 05:49 PM
So I had to do it 4 time but this is what I came up with.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/12193-classlinepractic.jpg

singsong
02-19-2011, 09:48 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/759462-skyline.jpg
My husband was listening to the webinar from his chair, and when it closed down, he said, "That Johannes, he's a line dancer!" So now, thanks to this class, we'll all become line dancers. And that's how I'm going to think when I'm drawing and painting from now on, I'm dancing with lines. Thank you Johannes! I'm learning so much in your class. Donna Ridgway

Johannes Instructor
02-19-2011, 09:59 PM
So I had to do it 4 time but this is what I came up with.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/12193-classlinepractic.jpg

Almost perfect there are two buildings that are the same width the second and third last. Back to the drawing board.

Johannes Instructor
02-19-2011, 10:01 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/759462-skyline.jpg
My husband was listening to the webinar from his chair, and when it closed down, he said, "That Johannes, he's a line dancer!" So now, thanks to this class, we'll all become line dancers. And that's how I'm going to think when I'm drawing and painting from now on, I'm dancing with lines. Thank you Johannes! I'm learning so much in your class. Donna Ridgway

The viewer's eye is supposed to be the eye dancer. Very good job you did on this homework. This forces you to see negative and positive space and make sure all is entertaining which is definitely the case of this exercise you did. You get a gold star! Now apply this concept to rocks, trees, evergreens etc. As you can see any way you see this upside down or downside up you have a variance in each case.

Analia
02-20-2011, 08:52 AM
Here's my exercisehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2011/201911-ejercicio168.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-20-2011, 10:49 AM
Here's my exercisehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2011/201911-ejercicio168.jpg

Please make the shapes into "sky scraper" blocks. This is to get you to think more abstractly.

Analia
02-20-2011, 02:10 PM
Sorry :o , I forgot about skyscrapers... guess I'm too driven to curves. I "translated" it nowhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2011/201911-ejercicio170.jpg
Anyway, I already see a couple of mistakes

Isaac M.M.
02-21-2011, 05:54 AM
I think the rock and the tree next are good ones:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Feb-2011/97351-IMG_0039.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-21-2011, 11:05 AM
Sorry :o , I forgot about skyscrapers... guess I'm too driven to curves. I "translated" it nowhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2011/201911-ejercicio170.jpg
Anyway, I already see a couple of mistakes
I find it interesting how we are able to produce variations in these positive and negative shapes but when it comes to landscape subjects such as trees, clouds etc we produce symmetrical and repetitve shapes again. Maybe this exercise will make us more aware.

tania_b
02-21-2011, 05:08 PM
Here's my first post of a homework. I'm sure it's not perfect ... done with photoshop and a tablet

Johannes Instructor
02-21-2011, 05:23 PM
Here's my first post of a homework. I'm sur
e it's not perfect ... done with photoshop and a tablet

Actually it is! Good job! Way to go. now think this way while you paint. Im anxious to see how all of your paintings will climb.

*Deirdre*
02-21-2011, 05:31 PM
Guess we have to try!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Feb-2011/33616-johannes.jpg

Johannes Instructor
02-21-2011, 07:15 PM
Guess we have to try!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Feb-2011/33616-johannes.jpg
Yes, the positive and negative spaces here differ. Well done! Try to apply this difference in spaces in your still lifes as well.
Wanna see something neat? Even still life fruits when done by a master are abstract and with different sides so they don't fall into symmetry. So if a still life artist does it much more a landscape artist should do it.
http://westwindfineart.com/richard/r...intingpage.htm (http://westwindfineart.com/richard/richardpaintingpage.htm)
The painting is called "Richard's Flight"
Also check this still life
http://westwindfineart.com/nancy/nancypaintingpage.htm (http://westwindfineart.com/nancy/nancypaintingpage.htm)