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robertsloan2
01-29-2011, 05:37 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Jan-2011/70184-Class-1-Page-1-Jan-29-2011.jpg
Sorry about the blurry bit at the bottom right. I think my knee sweated a little while I was holding the sketchbook on my lap.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Jan-2011/70184-Class-1-Page-2-Jan-29-2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Jan-2011/70184-Class-1-Page-3-Jan-29-2011.jpg
You can't see the lines, but this sketchbook has a ruled left column and blank right column for drawing. That encourages me to give my sketch illustrations more space.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Jan-2011/70184-Class-1-Page-4-Jan-29-2011.jpg

I'm using a Bienfang Notesketch for this. It's ruled in the left column and the right column isn't, so that helps me organize the information and sketches on the big letter size pages so well. I think I like it a lot better for note-taking. Even though the non-photo blue lines drop out, it's easier to follow the columns.

Odds are that's what'll fill most of this journal. I've also got a half page size one that I might start using for notes and sketches on my novel Sabertooth.

K-CO4
01-29-2011, 07:01 PM
Wow! Thank you for providing your Journal notes of Johannes' class. I was so busy trying to follow the course and my note-taking is just lousy. I am so very slow at it--really out of habit now.

Also, I am an aspiring (beginner) wildlife artist/painter. I really like the thumbnails you have in your signature. Very nice. I look forward to exploring your websites.

Blessings,

Kate

ddel
01-29-2011, 07:24 PM
Thanks John. I'm glad I found this thread. Your notes make so much more sense than mine. I am still having problems finding where to post my picture. Thanks, Doug

RainySea
01-29-2011, 07:54 PM
YAY. . . this was a great first class, huh? And I love this format that the webinar in, it works really well for me, today at least :)

Thanks for the notes.

DrDebby
01-29-2011, 09:29 PM
You are a saint to share your notes with us. I was late getting to class today and your awesome notes filled in what I missed. Thank you so much.

bill4faith
01-30-2011, 01:33 AM
Could someone help me find this class? I need more than www.wetcanvas.com.
Thanks.

Analia
01-30-2011, 11:08 AM
Thanks so much! I was looking for such a kind soul, as I could not attend the first class thank you!

robertsloan2
01-30-2011, 06:58 PM
Thank you all! Okay, here we go. First...

Here's my notes from today's session!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2011/70184-Class-Jan-30-1.jpg
Yep, I surprised myself on the value scale this time. Usually I have problems with them but trying to do one in pen and ink worked much better than usual. Normally I get good values for the 5 to 10 range and a hard time with the lighter values, but this time I think it's fairly even!

Printed value scales are better. I only did it to demonstrate that 1 is white and there are ten values.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2011/70184-Class-Jan-30-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2011/70184-Class-Jan-30-3.jpg
One thing I get out of doing these notes is so much practice making thumbnails! This one I was sketching from the memory of a painting I did and completely changed its composition by making it a more elongated rectangle and moving things around. Shows how memory can play tricks!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2011/70184-Class-Jan-30-4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2011/70184-Class-Jan-30-5.jpg
Four and a half pages today. I guess I'll start next weekend with a half page!

Okay - here are some Important Links!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=522 The forum that all the class material is in: "WetCanvas Live!" - it's a subforum of Landscapes.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=869472 - Classroom Exercises Posting Thread: only post your assignments. Johannes asked yesterday for folks to post their chosen photo references that they took. So that's what's in it now. Next week we'll all be posting our crops in it.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=864472 Johannes Student Critiques. Post ART here to get critique from Johannes.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=860272 Johannes Student Discussion Lounge: notes from class, sign-ups, discussions of class material, questions about how to get in. This is where he posts the links to get in when there is something wrong. Today there was something really wrong, no one's previous personal links worked and no one's prevous registrations showed up. So we all had to register again on a new link. This is where he posted it.

This is the one to watch for any news about navigating and getting in as well as to discuss class material.

Bill, I hope that helps. Once you're used to that forum the threads are self explanatory. I might direct people to this journal thread too if they have trouble finding my notes, but I also jotted down the post number for them in the discussion thread so that I have it handy when people ask.

Thank you again for such an overwhelming response! I am so glad others enjoy my notes. Please do take notes even if you don't think they're as good as mine. What you write down for yourself, your hands remember, you remember it differently. When you try to draw the little thumbnails every time you do it you will get better at retaining his design principles.

I am not kidding. I am improving really fast because I do half a dozen to a dozen tiny thumbnails per class I've attended. If yours don't look good to start, just doing them and trying repeatedly that many times helps a lot. Especially if you try to jot just the main point and do it in a minute or two without worrying about mistakes.

Now if only I can get used to copying successful thumbnails accurately enough to keep the winning composition when I start painting it! That's a little personal gap of mine that I'll be tackling sometime during this course. I might have to resort to enlarging my thumbnails on the scanner and tracing them with a light box!

DrDebby
01-30-2011, 08:38 PM
You are a wonderful resource! I remembered to tune into class at the right time. Half way through my mom called long distance. Can't tell mom that I'm taking a live online class on painting when she wants to talk. :rolleyes: Thanks again. And, yes, I was taking notes, but, well, I missed half the class. *sigh*

eyepaint
01-30-2011, 09:02 PM
Thanks for sharing, Robert :)

hungry4art
01-30-2011, 10:21 PM
thanks for sharing Robert, its maddening when I have to leave the webinar for some real time event or other. This is priceless for me.

Analia
01-31-2011, 09:07 AM
Tks again Robert! Fortunately yesterday I was able to attend the class without problem and made my own notes, anyway I like reading yours cause you may pay attention to different details than me.

Analia
01-31-2011, 02:42 PM
Robert, I made pdf files with your notes, so they can be easily seen. If you don't mind, I can attach them here so anyone can download them.
Please tell me if it's ok for you :) Thanks!

robertsloan2
01-31-2011, 02:50 PM
Analia, thank you! Yes, please do attach the PDF versions here. I appreciate it!

Debby, that sounds so frustrating. You remind me that I'm lucky - my family understands when I'm taking any live online class and stays out of my room till it's over. Once when there was a problem with the sound, they asked me to use headphones for it because Johannes's voice was coming through with a lot of distortion. Other than that, they've been so supportive.

EP and hungry4art, thank you!

I'll keep posting them here throughout the entire course, that way folks can always find them all in one place.

Analia
01-31-2011, 05:01 PM
Well, unfortunately the pdf's I made on your notes are too heavy to be attached here, even if I zip them, let's say that 1 MB is not so much space... So I offer everybody to send them attached to an e-mail, anybody who wants the files give me a message and you get them.
I'll do the same the following weeks so in the end we'll have all Robert's notes in one file.
Hope you find this useful ;)

ddel
01-31-2011, 05:19 PM
Analia, that is very kind of you. If there enough people interested and you go ahead, I would love a copy. Many thanks, Doug

Analia
01-31-2011, 05:56 PM
I just sent them to you, Doug. Check if you can open them alright. :)

Nahant
01-31-2011, 07:46 PM
Thanks so much, Robert...these notes are priceless and you are an angel for doing this! Today I have been covering every available surface with thumbnails and lead ins. Be well,
Betty

ddel
01-31-2011, 08:46 PM
Thanks Analia. The PDFs are perfect!!! Doug

Analia
02-01-2011, 04:09 PM
As you can see I love Acrobat...:wink2: Here is another file with all the questions Johannes couldn't answer orally during the 2 first classes. Of course I make this for me, but maybe some find it useful to have everything in the computer and easily store it.

robertsloan2
02-01-2011, 05:18 PM
Analia, thank you so much for doing this! Doing the same with his Questions thread is great too.

robertsloan2
02-05-2011, 08:37 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-1-Feb-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-2-Feb-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-3-Feb-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-4-Feb-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-5-Feb-5.jpg

DrDebby
02-05-2011, 09:17 PM
Thank you yet again. :)

Analia
02-06-2011, 09:29 AM
Hello Robert and everyone! Well, I already made my pdf on the notes of yesterday's class, so I'm sending them to those who already asked me to do so. If there's any other, you're welcome, send me a PM.
The reason why I cannot upload them here is that they're made out of scans, which are photos, and the file is heavier than WC accepts.

robertsloan2
02-06-2011, 08:58 PM
Thank you! Analia, thank you for doing this. PDF form is often easier to read!


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-2-Page-1-Feb-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-2-Page-2-Feb-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-2-Page-3-Feb-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-2-Page-4-Feb-6.jpg

queenbee
02-06-2011, 09:03 PM
Thanks for sharing your notes, Robert

queenbee
02-06-2011, 09:10 PM
Thank you Analia for sharing your notes, also

queenbee
02-06-2011, 09:14 PM
Hello Robert and everyone! Well, I already made my pdf on the notes of yesterday's class, so I'm sending them to those who already asked me to do so. If there's any other, you're welcome, send me a PM.
The reason why I cannot upload them here is that they're made out of scans, which are photos, and the file is heavier than WC accepts.

Analia will you please send me the notes from yesterday's class

DrDebby
02-06-2011, 11:57 PM
Once more Robert, you are a splendid note taker and generous to share. Thank you.

wildlifelover
02-07-2011, 12:11 AM
Robert, I also want to add my heart felt thanks. I have a lots of problems getting on-line if the weather is even slightly bad so I missed the class yesterday completely. Today I ended up at "Mickey D's" for the free wifi. Totally worth it! Anyway, your notes are helping me feel caught up. :)

TerryKrysak
02-07-2011, 10:22 AM
Robert, thanks so much for all your work on this. Your notes are brilliant.

Another option to post in PDF is to set up a Free account at Scribd
http://www.scribd.com

You can upload the notes after creating a PDF, post the link to each one in this thread, then everyone can download them.

With Scribed you can also embed the PDF in a website or blog.

A Free resource I use to create PDF documents is Pdf995 that adds a print driver to your software, to print anything in PDF form you just do a file print, and then choose the driver from your list of printers.
http://www.pdf995.com/download.html

LSACARMENCITA
02-07-2011, 10:22 AM
Thank you Robert for your notes, they are a great help.

Carmen

mlgk
02-07-2011, 11:34 AM
Robert
Thanks for the great notes.
Martha

Analia
02-07-2011, 02:41 PM
Just give me some time and I'll make the file on Robert's yesterday notes; besides, Robert, tell me how you can take so many notes while you keep an eye and write also in the chat box ;)
QueenBee, I'll send you a PM.
TerryKrysak, Scribd is a good advice, I'll try to do it for next week's notes.

Nahant
02-07-2011, 02:49 PM
Thanks again, Robert. By any chance did you get the "Nuts & Bolts" that was on the screen at the beginning of the first hour? It's not in the handout thread, and I'm not even sure what it covered...?

Betty

robertsloan2
02-07-2011, 04:35 PM
Thank you! So glad everyone's enjoying these. I do get intense sometimes while doing them, it's not easy keeping up. I sketch very fast and type even faster, that's why I occasionally chat while taking notes. I usually chat only while he's covering a point I already wrote down or when he's talking about things like giving directions to the right forum on WC and other information that's not directly on topic.

Betty, I got some of them in my notes. But like you, I'm waiting for the recordings to become available to have all of it. Maybe we can ask Johannes to post "Nuts and Bolts" page into one of the class threads in the WC Live! forum (subforum of Landscape).

pat-trew
02-07-2011, 06:15 PM
Thank you! Analia, thank you for doing this. PDF form is often easier to read!


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-2-Page-1-Feb-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-2-Page-2-Feb-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-2-Page-3-Feb-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-2-Page-4-Feb-6.jpgROBERT THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL NOTES, I DO TAKE MY OWN BUT YOURS ARE SOOOO MUCH BETTER. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS ON UPLOADING MY PHOTOS FOR THE CROPPING ASSIGNMENT, (EVEN THO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CROP ON MY COMPUTER. SO I EXPLAIN WHAT MY INTENTIONS ARE ) THANK YOU AGAIN:)

Analia
02-07-2011, 09:04 PM
Hello all of you. I'm sending the new pdf file by email. Next week, if I have enough time, I will upload it to Scribd. I can't assure cause this week is really difficult, my mother is having a surgery on Wednesday, she is ols and I hope everything goes ok, anyway I don't even know if I will be able to attend next weekend classes, so I rely on your notes, Robert.
Here you can download that "Nuts & Bolts", I made a screen capture.

Analia
02-07-2011, 09:08 PM
Plus, here are the answers Johannes wrote for past weekend questions.
Hope this helps all of us really improve our skills.:wave:

B4painter
02-08-2011, 12:44 AM
Hi everyone, I asked Robert if he'd like me to post my notes also. He said he would like me to. I'm a little behind but here is the notes from Lesson 1 Sat. and Sun. combined. I'll attatch it in a Pdf too.
Johannes classes Lesson 1
Photos - Using criteria for choosing photos
- If you print out a photo and take it to the original scene and make a comparison you will be surprised to see that the photo does not look like the scene.
- Photographs are the artist’s “Satan”, they seduce the artist to copy
- Photographs can be a good tool when used properly, it is better not to print them out. The best way is the display them on your computer, this will have less distortion.
- Relying on photos motivates mental laziness, use them for developing one’ own pictorial language.
- Artist tend to over render what the photo is showing, such as buildings, and trees with leaves, all the waves and light values will be scattered randomly creating a “leopard effect” instead of using abstract designs.
- We want to allow for the eye to flow easily in the picture, we don’t want the eye to play hopscotch.
- Photos are true to detail and shape so this is where they can be trusted. The human mind will not remember details easily.
- Photos lie about color and values, (shades of grays). Value 7 and 8 turn black in photos and when printed out colors become muddy. Value 2 can end up being pure white,
- If a painting survives in a gray scale and is readable, and is still beautiful then you are on the right track.
- When huge outdoor scenes are rescaled to a mere black and white thumbnail you’ll see the values.
- Photos also have scattered dark spots all over the photo. We have to dramatically decrease these values.
- From a size perspective we can tell there is a row of evergreens in front of another, but from a visual perspective the photo looks flat and 2D because the trees in the background are the same values as the ones closer. A solution to this would be to lighten the value of the background trees and use lavender as an accent hue.
- When the sage bushes form an almost straight line and rectangles the solution is to bring some trees forward to show a stair case effect. Slanting will offset the rectangle.
- Round trees do not work
- It is not what you put inside a shape that makes a tree work – it’s the shape that makes it work
- Johannes recommends buying a value scale and not making one.
- If you were to paint evergreen trees in a triangular shape you would ruin your painting, solution would be to use another photo reference that has a Calvin Klein model of an evergreen tree with two different opposite sides. Anything that is symmetrical in your art work, will ruin it.
- Focus on positive and negative shape, two clones of trees the same height in a photo is not good, you want to use your artist licence and stretch them. Pretend the trees are made of rubber and reshape them.
- If you can cut a hill out of your photo and use it for a ruler, you’ll need to change it, redesign the line of the hill and create a stair case melodic line, this also applies to shorelines.
- If the photo is monochromatic – All green for example, find another photo or borrow colors from a similar painting of Johannes’ and change the season.
- Most artists create a lazy “S” zig-zag movement to take the viewer for a visual walk in the painting. For a seaside painting, use the foam to walk the viewer into the painting.
- In nature the color of rocks and tree bark is quite monochromatic if you paint it this way you will create a boring painting. Variegate the colors.
- Accomplished artists have a rich pictorial symbol dictionary stored in their minds. These symbols are to substitute the real thing just like we write words that substitute the real objects.
- Nature seldom provides us with lead ins. We need to create them.
- Melodic lines can be said to be poetry in motion.
- Overcast days are the best time to take photos. Late afternoon is good too. Some values will need to be changed to values 2 to 7. When the sun is down on the horizon you may need to use value 8 or 9. These values can be used if you are working with a stormy mood. A sense of aesthetics is important. Johannes can’t teach us what a good shape is. You’ll need to learn what is exciting for the viewer.
- Choose photos that contain 75% of good stuff. Photos should have foreground, middle ground, and background, and sky. Sky is not background. You may have to bring in a 2nd photograph to complete a missing mass.
- Divide your painting surface in a tic-tac-toe and place the focal point at the four places where the lines connect. Focal point in upper right is the #1 spot to put it, Upper left is #2, Lower right is #3, and Lower left is #4 because it is the area where the eye can not travel into the painting very far. We want to give the viewer the “feeling of space” not a report of it. Focal points should never be in the middle of your painting.
- Search and destroy symmetrical shapes and make them abstract.
- When deciding on the design of your painting, ask yourself what can I take out rather than what can I put in
- Every painting does not need a focal point. If there is no focal point create visual points and visual movement throughout the painting
- Plan your masses
- Redesign your lines –
- Lead ins and visual paths take you into the paint. Think of it as allowing the viewer to walk into the painting. If your photo has no visual path, you will have to create one by adding a dirt path, wild flowers, etc. Sometimes the lead in looks better from left to right. They normally start at the bottom part of the painting. Lead ins can be color or value contrast and usually are from front or bottom to back.
- You can have more than one lead in.
- The more you move the viewer around your painting the better. You want to keep the eye in your painting longer.
- When painting in oils, you’ll want to use heavier paint in the middle ground and lighter in the background. In water color middle can have hard edges and background looks best wet on wet.
- Good artist thinks front to back. Melodic lazy “S” shape – not zig zag. Paint like Clyde Aspervig.
- Don’t draw your design with graphite, use burnt sienna and a brush or violet dry pastel pencil. Violet is a universal color for anything.
Hope this works ok for everyone, you will have to copy and paste to your word program tos save.

Declan
02-11-2011, 09:36 PM
Thanks -- I'm having to miss some sessions in February because of a prior commitment. The notes would be a big help -- I'm learning so much from this class! It is answering many questions I've had in workshops that seemed too stupid to ask. You can send them to me at nellm@comcast.net. Thanks.

Artist9
02-12-2011, 05:17 PM
Robert,
Thank you soooo much for your wonderful notes. I find that along with Joe's handouts they're just perfect.
Do you have any notes for last weeks session 3???
I would appreciate receiving a copy of them.

Again thank you,
Joesy

robertsloan2
02-12-2011, 05:51 PM
Barbara, thank you! Joesy - the notes for last week's session 3 are posted - they're the Class 2 Session 1 notes. I will check but I'm sure I posted them along with the ones from the video demo. I was late with them by a day, sorry about that.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-1-1_2-12-2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-1-2_2-12-2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-1-3_2-12-2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-1-4_2-12-2011.jpg
Sorry about the bad shape of the girl lying down contour, I was doing her from imagination and goofed. Second one is easier. That was just to get the idea across that some contours are very recognizable.

robertsloan2
02-12-2011, 05:52 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-1-Feb-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-2-Feb-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-3-Feb-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-4-Feb-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Feb-2011/70184-Class-2-Session-1-5-Feb-5.jpg

Quoted them for you, Joesy.

Analia
02-12-2011, 06:24 PM
Hello to all!
Everyone who asked should have received the pdf's by email as I promised. Please tell me in case I missed someone in the process and I will mend my error :o

Join you tomorrow!

DrDebby
02-12-2011, 09:23 PM
Thank you so much for these notes. I was not able to attend today. Was out selling my candy. :)

Eddypus1
02-12-2011, 10:55 PM
Thanks Robert, your notes are a great addition to my own.

tedzart
02-12-2011, 11:09 PM
Robert:
You are the most amazing note taker. I certainly appreciate you sharing your notes with all of us.
Thank you so much.

springcleaner
02-13-2011, 02:24 AM
Yes, thanks so much Robert. I have to miss some of the classes so your notes are a Godsend.

Liz, springcleaner

born to paint
02-13-2011, 12:31 PM
Thanks for all these notes. They are very helpful. born to paint

Analia
02-13-2011, 02:16 PM
Hello Robert! Someone suggested to upload the pdf's on your notes in Scribd. As these notes belong to you, IU have to ask you whether you agree with this or not. lease tell me. In that case, it would be much easier for all of those interested to download the files. and I'd be sending less emails, too :)
Tell me what you want to do.
:wave:

robertsloan2
02-13-2011, 06:06 PM
Yes, I'd agree to uploading my notes in Scribd if that makes it easier. Just attribute them to me and if it's not on WetCanvas, link to my oil pastels website (the one in my signature, Explore Oil Pastels etc.)

Thank you for commenting and appreciating my efforts. I got a bit of a scare today when my access got wobbly right before class. Thankfully it sorted itself out and I didn't miss anything.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-2-1_2-13-2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-2-2_2-13-2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-2-3_2-13-2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-2-4_2-13-2011.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Feb-2011/70184-Class-3-Session-2-5_2-13-2011.jpg

Analia
02-13-2011, 07:03 PM
Fine. Of course I will make it clear these are your notes, it's just me uploading them in your name, I'm new to Scribd but I guess I can link to your site also. I'll let you know when it's done so that you can see it and approve.
There's a lot of people thanking you already, I guess there will be still many more!
:wave:

DrDebby
02-13-2011, 07:38 PM
Robert, thank you again. These are wonderful. I really like that you take the time to draw out the do and don'ts as well as the written notes.

Analia
02-14-2011, 08:52 AM
Ok, friends, it's official: Robert's notes are available in Scribd, everybody can see them there and/or download them. This is the link: http://www.scribd.com/documents#all?sort=date&sort_direction=descending

There you have yesterday's class already. The rest will be uploaded there too.

I hope you find it easy, and let's thank again Robert for his kindness and generosity! :clap:

donnagail
02-14-2011, 09:33 PM
Thank you to Robert for the great notes and to Analia for the efforts to get them out to all those who are learning their way around WC had problems finding them. Huge help to a novice such as myself!!!

Analia
02-15-2011, 11:02 AM
my pleasure, Donna :)

robertsloan2
02-19-2011, 06:01 PM
Thank you for all your comments and big thanks to Analia for posting them on Scribd in such an easily downloaded form. Here's today's notes!


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/70184-2-19-2011-Class-4-Session-1-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/70184-2-19-2011-Class-4-Session-1-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/70184-2-19-2011-Class-4-Session-1-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2011/70184-2-19-2011-Class-4-Session-1-4.jpg

The homework assignment looks so easy and it's anything but. I think I'm going to try it on graph paper to see if that helps! X out any line that I've used for depth and see how that works.

Eddypus1
02-19-2011, 06:23 PM
Thanks again Robert for your notes!

Analia
02-19-2011, 07:00 PM
Well, nobody can say we´re not a good team... here you can read and download today´s notes: http://www.scribd.com/doc/49170082/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-7-Feb-19-2011

:wave:

thankful
02-19-2011, 08:20 PM
Thank you, Robert and Analia! Today was my first day. Now, I don't have to wonder what I've missed. Thanks again!

DrDebby
02-19-2011, 08:23 PM
Thanks for sharing your notes.

robertsloan2
02-20-2011, 06:04 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2011/70184-2-20-2011-Class-4-Session-2-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2011/70184-2-20-2011-Class-4-Session-2-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Feb-2011/70184-2-20-2011-Class-4-Session-2-3.jpg

Analia, thank you so much for posting them into Scribd so elegantly and fast! Debby and Thankful, thank you for encouraging me. I was mightily tempted today to set aside the notebook and paint along with him, but seeing the complexity of the sketch discouraged me. I wouldn't be able to draw that fast enough to keep up.

Analia
02-20-2011, 06:39 PM
Robert, do not get so much engaged with this, I mean you should feel free to paint along during the demos any time you wish. You've been absolutely kind to share your notes but I really feel you are not obliged with us by any means.

Analia
02-20-2011, 06:50 PM
Today's notes ready: http://www.scribd.com/doc/49219999/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-8-Feb-20-2011

DrDebby
02-20-2011, 11:58 PM
Heavens Robert! If you want to paint, paint. We are taking our own notes or at least I'm trying to. And if one misses a class, it is being recorded. Thank you very much for being so generous as to share your notes. It's really awesome of you.

alaskan rose
02-21-2011, 12:27 AM
I just stumbled on this thread, what great information, great note taking, too. Thank you so much!:clap:

robertsloan2
02-21-2011, 08:31 PM
That's good to know. I've been lucky so far, but my online access is erratic. If the weather goes wrong during a class, I could get knocked out for part or all of it with no warning and nothing I can do about it. I'm trying to continue though, with so many people using my notes I do feel I ought to keep on.

Besides, once he started I got one good look at his complex sketch and realized I couldn't "paint along" until I buy the webinar recording. Then I'll just pause on his sketch and copy the sketch, or study his reference photo and create my own (probably more valuable). Then carry on following and painting with him in real time. It's easier to paint along with a recording than a live class.

I sketch along with him all the time though, this time I spent more time on the little pictures and less on my text. In retrospect I should've opened up a pocket watercolor set and done "paint along" bits using a watercolor journal instead of my normal notebook. Might try that if he does another watercolor demo. It's just two feet away on another shelf!

robertsloan2
02-26-2011, 05:52 PM
Here we go with today's notes! I started taking notes during the pre-class setup this time, so that's why some of these things may seem out of order. Also, I could not resist sketching my cat, he was in a good pose and irresistible so I used him for an example.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/70184-2-26-2011-Class-5-Session-1-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/70184-2-26-2011-Class-5-Session-1-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/70184-2-26-2011-Class-5-Session-1-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2011/70184-2-26-2011-Class-5-Session-1-4.jpg

donnagail
02-26-2011, 06:05 PM
Thank you Robert! Your notes are so welcome and your cat is gorgeous! I am afraid I would offend my MaggieMay with my rendering of her, but I will try it someday. :cat:

Analia
02-26-2011, 06:28 PM
Robert, today you really really saved me! I couldn't get connected and lost almost the whole class. Your notes will be my only reference, thank you so much!
Anyway, the pdf is already done, but queued by Scribd, so will be available in a few minutes.

Thanks again ;)

Analia
02-26-2011, 07:03 PM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49614200/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-9-Feb-26-2011

Meet you tomorrow!

DrDebby
02-26-2011, 08:04 PM
Once more, thank you. I was there, but the sound kept breaking up and cutting out. I'd get it back, but would miss up to a minute of what he was talking about.

robertsloan2
02-27-2011, 06:38 PM
Purr thank you! Donnagail, I sketched my cat hundreds of times. Believe me, they weren't always this accurate or concise. Sketch your beloved cat in under three minutes again and again, eventually you'll get her anatomy and markings so well you can do her if she's out of sight.


Sunday, February 27, 2011 class notes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/70184-2-27-2011-Class-5-Session-2-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/70184-2-27-2011-Class-5-Session-2-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/70184-2-27-2011-Class-5-Session-2-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Feb-2011/70184-2-27-2011-Class-5-Session-2-4.jpg

Plus a short checklist of what the most important things in the course are so far, things to remember and get so used to that they're second nature when painting.

1) Melodic Lines (not jagged, straight, repetitive or wormy)
2) Abstract Shapes (non symmetrical, not geometric)
3) No Fly Zone - peripheral areas
4) Value range 2-7 (on a scale of 1-10 where 1 is white)

Analia, the typed-in short checklist came after class ended, sorry that wasn't actually in one of the pages. If you can type it into a page to go with the images of my notes it'd be good. Thank you for doing the PDF version and making it available on Scribd!

Purr thanks Debby!

Still need to do my homework of carving out an abstract shape from an oval, so tempted to make it a sleeping cat instead of a tree since he didn't say what the abstract shape had to represent! Maybe I'll do both.

DrDebby
02-27-2011, 07:00 PM
Thanks again.

Analia
02-27-2011, 07:34 PM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49666028/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-10-Feb-27-2011
Ready for all. I added a last page with the checklist, Robert. Great class, today, wasn't it? You know, even it is not that easy in my country to get the kind of specific books like those indicated by Johannes, during the last 7/8 years I managed to buy some through the internet (even it cost me a lot in shipping fees!) I do have Ian Robert's book on composition, I bought the old book by Arthur Wesley Dow that talks specifically about notan... And gathered every single article I found on these subjects. But it always seemed I could not solve the puzzle out, had the pieces but needed a teacher explaining and answering... It's a real luck for me that I found this webinar, and for this time I bless technology! And you also, the marvelous note taker!! ;)

B4painter
03-01-2011, 12:49 AM
I http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2011/68215-148819838.jpg found a landscape that might be added
here. I think it would be easy to mass plan too! shadow area would be Mid-Dark Foreground would be Mid-Light and all the rest except the sky would be Mid:crossfingers:
Take care, Barb S

Laura2011
03-02-2011, 04:34 PM
Thank you Robert for your notes. They are a great help. By the way I like the drawing of your cat. I am starting to sketch my dog and maybe in a couple of years I will be able to do it accurately. Thank you again.

RainySea
03-02-2011, 07:22 PM
Robert, great notes. Since I'm having trouble with the class because of my slow internet, they are a special bonus for me! TY

Analia
03-05-2011, 06:42 PM
Dear Robert, I hope you were able to take lots of notes today, I couldn't attend and am in need of them! :o

robertsloan2
03-05-2011, 06:46 PM
Thank you! Barb, that's a gorgeous photo. From today's class, you have two choices - group the sky with the mid values or group the strip of light middle ground with mid values. One of the points Johannes made was that you could change the value masses, alter them from the photo to create different effects.

Five pages today! It was intense! I think I've got it though.

Big important class on value masses and thumbnails. I repeated some information Johannes mentioned before class answering questions about his suggested palette for beginners.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/70184-3-5-2011-Class-6-Session-1-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/70184-3-5-2011-Class-6-Session-1-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/70184-3-5-2011-Class-6-Session-1-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/70184-3-5-2011-Class-6-Session-1-4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Mar-2011/70184-3-5-2011-Class-6-Session-1-5.jpg

Post class, Johannes mentioned a couple of things worth typing in that I didn't have space for on the last page.

Look up Frank Serrano, an artist whose paintings show abstract shapes.

Homework is to sketch Value Masses thumbnails of photos Johannes posted for the exercise.

One way to tell in a gallery if you're looking at a painting done en plein air or from a photo is to look at the values of the trees. If they're value 8 or 9 in a broad daylight scene, chances are the artist worked from a photo.

Analia
03-05-2011, 07:24 PM
You saved me, Robert. I've been at the hospital taking care of my mother the whole week, and today wasn´t able to attend. Thanks! Here's the pdf: http://www.scribd.com/doc/50109610/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-11-March-5-2011

DrDebby
03-05-2011, 10:02 PM
Thanks are again given to you, a most awesome note taker.

robertsloan2
03-06-2011, 06:19 PM
Analia, thank you! So glad I could help. Debby, glad they're useful. I've got four pages of them for today - same topic, Value Mass Thumbnails. I think I've got it. Practicing over and over during the class helped, though I've come back to the conclusion that markers are best for this kind of planning. Or maybe colored pencils if I get out the gray scale Prismacolors.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Mar-2011/70184-3-6-2011-Class-6-Session-2-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Mar-2011/70184-3-6-2011-Class-6-Session-2-2.jpg
After seeing other people's homework I experimented with mediums other than markers to do value mass thumbnails. It's harder in pencil!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Mar-2011/70184-3-6-2011-Class-6-Session-2-3.jpg
I thought I'd find good gray values in hard pastels but my Conte set only had middle and mid-dark. Derwent's cold gray was light-mid, warm gray middle and charcoal dark but the hue difference is startling and I had to mix a little charcoal into the middle value one to get the right value. Also did not get the level of clean lines that I did with markers. I would if I sketched larger, it's just easier with markers in values 3, 5 and 7. Tombow brush pens come in values that match. So do Prismacolor colored pencils, I just didn't have those out. If you have Prismacolors, try it in the grays, they're evenly spaced.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Mar-2011/70184-3-6-2011-Class-6-Session-2-4.jpg

DrDebby
03-06-2011, 07:44 PM
Many thanks for your hard work.

dljaques
03-06-2011, 07:54 PM
Hi Robert, I hope you get this message as I am new to this.

First let me say how much I appreciate your class notes and your willingness to share them.
I can find your notes up to Class 6, part2. Have you uploaded others??? If so, where can I find them?

Thanks!!

donnagail
03-06-2011, 08:44 PM
Thank you once again for sharing your notes. They are works of art in themselves!

Analia
03-06-2011, 09:01 PM
Well, here's the link for today's pdf: http://www.scribd.com/doc/50160964/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-12-March-6-2011

dljaques, if you go to my Scribd profile http://www.scribd.com/Analia6960 you will be able to read online and download all of Robert's notes.

:)

Nahant
03-07-2011, 06:38 PM
Robert, what can I say. I take notes and am very engaged with J's teaching process, so they serve as a learning tool. They are surpassed by far, however, by the detail and illustrative example that you share with us! Many thanks, once again!

I also thank you for making the notes available on your own thread. This came in very handy today when I was working from the class thread and found Class 6, Session 2, page 4 was cut off on the right side. But not to worry...there were the notes in their entirety...right here. You think of everything!
My best to you!

Betty

dustypapillon
03-08-2011, 12:46 PM
This first part is for Johannes: as a former elementary school teacher/fine artist I want to say congratulations to you on your fine workshops to this point. I am not bragging, but I have a Masters in Curriculum and Instruction and your classes are thoughtfully and masterfully structured and follow such a nice rhythm. Your method of introduction, teaching, practicing, and review are so very well presented and thought out, and there is a nice flow to the lessons - all the while you are including student questions and comments. With each lesson, I gain so much information and grasp the knowledge of what you are teaching...painting landscapes from photographs...and I also appreciate all the little tidbits you offer to your students. Well done! :clap:And thanks Robert for the great notes! I am copying them into my notebook!

gale Prosser Shuba
03-09-2011, 07:01 PM
Help.... I lost my link to the class. I don't know what happend but all my mail
that I was saving is gone. I hope Johannes reads this and can send it to me again.

Artistic License
03-11-2011, 03:08 PM
I appreciate Johannes for opening my eyes to what works when painting landscapes. It was all such a mystery before. I do have alot to learn. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
Marilyn

pixieartist
03-12-2011, 02:22 PM
Gale Prosser Shuba, I have had that problem since before Christmas!! Go back to your e-mail inbox. If not there, scroll down to your 'Contacts' and click on that. Have you put your own e-mail into this list??? If not, do so, then send your self an e-mail. No need to write anything. Then check for your e-mail in your inbox. For some reason, the newer messages get back on there for me, so try it out. Then click onto the on-line reminder that should have been sent to you yesterday? That will get you into the course today . Good luck. Post here again to let me know if it worked or not. Thanks...pixieartist

robertsloan2
03-12-2011, 06:13 PM
Pixieartist, thank you for sorting out Gale's problem! I don't think Johannes reads this thread, though if you post in the "Partner: WetCanvas Live!" forum on the Technical Help thread he might see it or someone else might be able to sort it out. Sometimes his emails wind up in spam folders.

Dustypapillon, please post that to the WC Live! forum so that he'll see it. This is just my art journals thread, it's in a different forum. I agree. I've had a lot of teachers in my life and he ranks right up with the best.

djacques - "Class 6, Session 2" is what Johannes calls Class 12. For some reason I started numbering by weekend rather than by session, so you're right up to date. Today's the 13th class and I list it as Class 7 (weekend seven) Session 1 - I think that's how they'll be bundled for download too, two days worth in one bundle for $9.99.

Big thanks to Analia for putting them in PDF form and so glad everyone's enjoying these. I get so much out of taking them and have to keep sharing, so many others find them useful.

Here's today!


Notes from Saturday, March 12, 2011 class:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/70184-3-12-2011-Class-7-Session-1-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/70184-3-12-2011-Class-7-Session-1-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/70184-3-12-2011-Class-7-Session-1-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Mar-2011/70184-3-12-2011-Class-7-Session-1-4.jpg

Plus, I got slightly zinged when Johannes said he was done and I was at the bottom of page four. In the last few minutes of discussion he answered a question about a still life - getting one orange segment to shine out brightly.

At first he mentioned a "halo effect" at the back of an orange in a still life - the far top edge was slightly blurred about 1/16" and bright, as if it was so bright you couldn't focus on it. That's an advanced technique he admired.

Then he mentioned not to put the highlight right on the edge. It works better in still lifes to move it down from the edge, still toward the top and one side but not right on the edge. This also works with rounding clumps of tree foliage to make them more three dimensional. I didn't know this, been doing it with fruit for years but didn't think that yeah, works the same way on foliage.

Finally, to make something glow, use chroma. Use the most saturated color in that object and slightly mute things near it, mute more as you move away from it in the painting. To make something glow, un-glow the rest. One orange segment in Cadmium Orange will shine against a background orange that's mixed with burnt sienna and yellow.

Analia, maybe you can copy-paste that text into the PDF with it - I'll be putting it in comments in the Facebook posts so I get it in. Did not want to do a page that was just a quarter sheet to jot it so I just typed in my computer journal page.

thurn
03-12-2011, 08:31 PM
Robert, I am a new artist, so have more questions than comments. But I have to tell you that I appreciate your notes. Since i take notes myself, I find that reading yours helps clarify and reinforce what I have heard in this very good class. Thank you very much for sharing!:clap:

Patsy

Analia
03-13-2011, 10:33 AM
Hello friends, yesterday's notes are ready for you: http://es.scribd.com/doc/50643883/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-13-March-12-2011
Robert, as usual I added those last notes in a final page.
Join you this afternoon ;)

DrDebby
03-13-2011, 04:16 PM
I know I sound like a broken record, but thank you again. :)

robertsloan2
03-13-2011, 06:12 PM
Patsy, Analia, Debby, thank you! These encouraging comments keep me going and help me remember to post my notes too. Last weekend I forgot to post my Sunday notes on Facebook and so my album there went out of order.

Class notes for Sunday, March 13th Pastel Demo

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/70184-3-13-2011-Class-7-Session-2-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/70184-3-13-2011-Class-7-Session-2-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/70184-3-13-2011-Class-7-Session-2-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/70184-3-13-2011-Class-7-Session-2-4.jpg

Analia
03-13-2011, 07:02 PM
Done! http://es.scribd.com/doc/50666652/Robert-SLoan-Notes-Class-14-March-13-2011
;)

litlbitartsy
03-13-2011, 07:36 PM
I try to download the class notes from Scrib and it says to get on Facebook but when I try to sign in from there it says there is an error. How can I download the notes? thanks for any help.

Analia
03-13-2011, 07:58 PM
I made a capture so you can see how to download the notes from Scribd. Hope it helps!http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2011/201911-Mapa_de_bits_enGráfico1_copiar.jpg :wave:

Analia
03-13-2011, 08:05 PM
Well, it looks like this is overloaded.
Go to the link IU gave before, thue you will see a green square on the down right, click there and a dialogue boux will appear. Choose PDF, the click on "download now" and specify your folder. That should work.

Analia
03-13-2011, 08:07 PM
:o Hey, can you see I have some problems with my uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

litlbitartsy
03-13-2011, 09:39 PM
Thanks soooo much.. got it. :clap:

Analia
03-13-2011, 09:50 PM
Great, I see you managed to understand, no matter how many uuu's I typed... :lol:

Marianne Shields
03-13-2011, 11:01 PM
So very sorry to have missed your last session. But anyway I thank you for all your hard work...you were very generous with your time.
Mariane 78 and going strong:clap:

Elain
03-14-2011, 02:49 PM
Outstanding Robert. I just catching up on all the posts and there is so much to digest here.

Thank you so much for taking the time to share it all.

Analia
03-16-2011, 04:00 PM
Hi friends! I've completed the pdf's with the general questions/aswers Johannes/Kenneth posted (I think that's all, as I couldn't find anything concerning Feb. 19/20 classes; incase anyone saw these, please tell me where)
They're available in:
http://es.scribd.com/doc/50885758/J-Vloothuis-General-Questions-Feb-12-13
http://es.scribd.com/doc/50885952/J-Vloothuis-General-Questions-Feb-26-27
http://es.scribd.com/doc/50886687/J-Vloothuis-General-Questions-March-5

Hope you find them useful :)

tennisqueen
03-17-2011, 10:56 PM
I can't tell you how much I appreciate Johannes for giving these invaluable lessons and Robert for his incredible notes and Analia for helping to share all of this. Thank you!!!!!

Analia
03-18-2011, 06:53 PM
well, thank you tennisqueen for the little part I've got in it... :wave:

robertsloan2
03-19-2011, 06:30 PM
Wow, thank you! Purr, thank you for making PDFs and keeping the PDFs organized and available, Analia! That's so awesome.

Today's class was extremely important. I loved it.

Five pages of notes today and I still had to squeeze in one last important comment on the bottom of the first page!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2011/70184-3-19-2011-Class-15-Weekend-8-Session-1-page-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2011/70184-3-19-2011-Class-15-Weekend-8-Session-1-page-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2011/70184-3-19-2011-Class-15-Weekend-8-Session-1-page-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2011/70184-3-19-2011-Class-15-Weekend-8-Session-1-page-4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2011/70184-3-19-2011-Class-15-Weekend-8-Session-1-page-5.jpg

Analia
03-19-2011, 07:29 PM
ready http://es.scribd.com/doc/51129164/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-15-March-19-2011
such a class, today! I guess this completed the package, first time I get this kind of instruction. This is the type of information all masters (but Johannes) keep for themselves.
:wave:

Dedrian
03-20-2011, 08:40 PM
As a newbie, I have been following the pastel threads/posts, learning more than I could have imagined....... I have to take this time to make my first post to thank you Robert, for the service you are providing by taking notes. I missed yesterday's class and because of your notes feel I can easily catch up. Your generosity is very much appreciated!

Dede

robertsloan2
03-20-2011, 08:45 PM
Best I could do today, it was my turn to have trouble getting the video and even the audio. I think I lost more than half of it.

9" x 12" watercolor paper sheet with watercolor experiments from the demo:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/70184-3-20-2011-Class-16-WC-Tests.jpg
Sorry it's so dark, problem with the lighting in my room. If I'd scanned half of it would vanish to white though.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/70184-3-20-2011-Class-16-Weekend-8-Session-2-page-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/70184-3-20-2011-Class-16-Weekend-8-Session-2-page-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Mar-2011/70184-3-20-2011-Class-16-Weekend-8-Session-2-page-3.jpg

Apologies if this is choppier and less complete than usual. I lost video most of the time and audio about 1/2 to 2/3 of the time today, sometimes I guessed at what Johannes would say based on other times I'd heard him say it.

DrDebby
03-20-2011, 09:05 PM
Thanks. I was unable to attend today and was very interested in his demo. Sorry you were having connection problems. But, this is marvelous for me to have what you were able to get.

Analia
03-20-2011, 10:07 PM
It´s a pity you couldn't see the demo properly! And I don´t mean it only for you... ;) I´ll check your notes with mine before making the pdf, so in case I have any additional info I can add it. Will do this tomorrow friends! (it´s 11 in the night here, and tomorrow is a working day)

Analia
03-21-2011, 03:43 PM
ok, theuy are ready: http://es.scribd.com/doc/51245312/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-16-March-20-2011
:wave:

Earthdigger
03-23-2011, 10:53 PM
Well, unfortunately the pdf's I made on your notes are too heavy to be attached here, even if I zip them, let's say that 1 MB is not so much space... So I offer everybody to send them attached to an e-mail, anybody who wants the files give me a message and you get them.
I'll do the same the following weeks so in the end we'll have all Robert's notes in one file.
Hope you find this useful ;)

I appreciate your offer of the pdf files; would you send them to kirkwhiteside@comcast.net. thanks.

Analia
03-24-2011, 09:32 AM
I appreciate your offer of the pdf files; would you send them to kirkwhiteside@comcast.net. thanks.

Hello Earthdigger! I´m not sending the pdf's anymore, as I've been uploading them in Scribd. There you can read online and/or download them. Go to my profile at this link http://es.scribd.com/Analia6960 and scrolling down you'll find all the notes plus the questions/answers Johannes has posted upto now.
:wave:

Analia
03-25-2011, 11:28 AM
March, 12th questions/answers: http://es.scribd.com/doc/51541261/Johannes-Vloothuis-General-Questions-March-12

denise f. brown
03-26-2011, 03:33 PM
where do you submit class assignments? thanks!

robertsloan2
03-26-2011, 06:27 PM
Thanks, Analia!

Denise, the assignments each get threads in Landscape forum > Subforum: Partner: WetCanvas Live! - look for them by what the assignment is. "Post Edges Homework Here" is one of the assignments threads. If you want to redo an earlier one or do a painting from one of the photo references, the "Homework PHoto References Thread" is the one for painting from Johannes's photo references (actual finished paintings) and the other assignments each had their own threads in their weeks.

My guess is we'll be doing trees this week, Johannes was very happy with how everyone handled creating diffuse, soft and hard edges but we all need practice getting good abstract tree shapes.


Five pages today - another intense, informative class!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Mar-2011/70184-3-26-2011-Class-17-Weekend-9-Session-1-page-1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Mar-2011/70184-3-26-2011-Class-17-Weekend-9-Session-1-page-2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Mar-2011/70184-3-26-2011-Class-17-Weekend-9-Session-1-page-3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Mar-2011/70184-3-26-2011-Class-17-Weekend-9-Session-1-page-4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Mar-2011/70184-3-26-2011-Class-17-Weekend-9-Session-1-page-5.jpg

Analia
03-26-2011, 10:40 PM
http://es.scribd.com/doc/51624748/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-17-March-26-2011
see you tomorrow!

robertsloan2
03-27-2011, 06:27 PM
Thank you! This is so great. I hope you can copy off attachments as easily, the uploader doesn't work right now.

robertsloan2
03-27-2011, 06:28 PM
Second batch:

toco
03-27-2011, 06:56 PM
Thanks for the notes. I had to miss almost all the the class today and I really wanted to see how he mixed his oils as I use watercolor and acrylic. I did get to see the first half hour so your notes came in real handy.

Analia
03-27-2011, 09:08 PM
Robert, you're definitely an ace taking notes:thumbsup:
http://es.scribd.com/doc/51678576/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-18-March-27-2011
I'm feeling a bit lonely right now, can it be I'm the only one who never had any problem wuith any of the broadcasting systems? i really saw all demos ok. Oh, I feel blessed by destiny :o
:wave:

DrDebby
03-28-2011, 07:05 PM
Thanks Robert, you're the best. Have to admit the demo was the clearest yesterday, never lost the video, nor had the audio lagging. It was great.

robertsloan2
04-02-2011, 06:15 PM
Analia, I had a good view of all the demos except one - the great Ustream fiasco that took place at the same time as the basketball fanatics massive thing. It broke up and I heard about a quarter of the dialogue punctuated by stills. Most of the time I get the video fine. Last Sunday's was wonderful.

Five pages today! Here we go again - with a big long Do's and Don'ts list.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Apr-2011/70184-4-2-2011-Class-19-Saturday-Page-1-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Apr-2011/70184-4-2-2011-Class-19-Saturday-Page-2-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Apr-2011/70184-4-2-2011-Class-19-Saturday-Page-3-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Apr-2011/70184-4-2-2011-Class-19-Saturday-Page-4-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Apr-2011/70184-4-2-2011-Class-19-Saturday-Page-5-of-5.jpg

DrDebby
04-02-2011, 07:59 PM
Great you caught all of this. Thank you.

Analia
04-03-2011, 09:53 AM
yesterday's notes: http://es.scribd.com/doc/52179078/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-19-April-2-2011

robertsloan2
04-03-2011, 06:21 PM
Purr thank you! Yesterday was tough! Today was tough for another reason, my right shoulder, elbow and wrist suddenly spasmed and had a lot of pain. Fortunately about when it went whango, Johannes said "You're better off if your hand shakes a bit around this point." I laughed out loud and kept going!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Apr-2011/70184-4-3-2011-Class-20-Sunday-Page-1-of-4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Apr-2011/70184-4-3-2011-Class-20-Sunday-Page-2-of-4.jpg
I did some lightening by scumbling with an Antique White Inktense Block over the pen sketching and that helped a lot. It works to do that "scumble fog in" trick! At last, something does on ink sketching!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Apr-2011/70184-4-3-2011-Class-20-Sunday-Page-3-of-4.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Apr-2011/70184-4-3-2011-Class-20-Sunday-Page-4-of-4.jpg

DrDebby
04-03-2011, 07:18 PM
Awesome notes. Sorry about your hand/arm spasm. I hope you were able to get some relief after all that note taking. Cool about the inktense block for fogging on ink.

pixieartist
04-04-2011, 03:27 AM
Hi Robertsloan2, :) Sorry to hear of your sore arms etc. Tendonitis? or Carpal Tunnel Syndrome?? I have both. I'm back at Physio and the guy there said to get a golf ball and roll it around the sore muscles in the arm. It works!!! Give it a try, maybe it will help you too!!!:crossfingers: Also, heat might help.:D
Thanks so much for writing up notes on Johannes classes and sharing them here so that I and others could read them etc :clap: They have been so helpful, and I really appreciate all your time and effort you have put into doing this for us other students.:thumbsup: I also write my own notes but they are nowhere as neat and concise as yours. Today, I didn't even take any notes of the demo as I couldn't get sound again this week.:crying: I finally phoned my daughter's boyfriend who had been fixing computers as a full time job for a few years until he was hired by another company doing something else!!! He still fixes the odd computer in his spare time and lately, he has been so helpful with all the problems cropping up with me taking this course. :) He finally figured out what could have been the problem, and I did get audio after Johannes had started the lake pic. with the trees on the right. I tried to paint along at that point, but I think I ended up with close to value 8 in the distant trees using watercolor. :( The second try I did the same thing again. :eek: So, I'll have to try again. The wet-on-wet seems a bit difficult. I usually do that with the sky, but not much with the land part, if at all. Thought I would try a leafless winter tree I have a photo of and wanted to paint in the future!!! I guess that will be this week!! :crossfingers: Talk with you soon. Thanks again, Kyna:wave:

Analia
04-04-2011, 08:53 AM
http://es.scribd.com/doc/52239524/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-20-April-3-2011
there you can find these last notes' pdf ready.
Robert, I hope you feel better today, my guess is (I assume you are right handed) that your arm's muscles were contracted for too long, wrtiting and drawing. Take care! :)

Analia
04-04-2011, 09:10 AM
Besides, I'm not sure if I put here the link to March, 26th Questions/Answers, so here it goes: http://es.scribd.com/doc/51759496/Johannes-Vloothuis-General-Questions-March-26

robertsloan2
04-09-2011, 06:25 PM
Thank you so much, Analia! This is wonderful.

Five more pages for today. Tomorrow's a watercolor demo.

Five pages today!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Apr-2011/70184-4-9-2011-Class-21-Saturday-Page-1-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Apr-2011/70184-4-9-2011-Class-21-Saturday-Page-2-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Apr-2011/70184-4-9-2011-Class-21-Saturday-Page-3-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Apr-2011/70184-4-9-2011-Class-21-Saturday-Page-4-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Apr-2011/70184-4-9-2011-Class-21-Saturday-Page-5-of-5.jpg

DrDebby
04-09-2011, 08:40 PM
Thank you. I ended up having audio problems towards the end. So, your last few notes are priceless. :)

robertsloan2
04-10-2011, 06:23 PM
Glad I could help. I ran into video problems at the end of today's but only missed the last couple of minutes and still had audio. Here they are!


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Apr-2011/70184-4-10-2011-Class-22-Saturday-Page-1-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Apr-2011/70184-4-10-2011-Class-22-Saturday-Page-2-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Apr-2011/70184-4-10-2011-Class-22-Saturday-Page-3-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Apr-2011/70184-4-10-2011-Class-22-Saturday-Page-4-of-5.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Apr-2011/70184-4-10-2011-Class-22-Saturday-Page-5-of-5.jpg

DrDebby
04-10-2011, 06:26 PM
After the technical problem with his computer I never got the visual back. I gave it up. Thanks for the notes.

Nettie Jane
04-10-2011, 06:31 PM
Robert,

Great notes, I have taken tons of notes but needed to organize them and here they are. Finally figured out Wet Canvas and how to post and look around so have found them. I presume these are the notes everyone is talking about.
Nettie

Analia
04-10-2011, 08:45 PM
Hello! The followiung links correspond to yesterday's and today's notes:
http://es.scribd.com/doc/52724431/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-21-April-9-2011
http://es.scribd.com/doc/52724504/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-22-April-10-2011

To those new ones there in my Scribd profile: http://es.scribd.com/Analia6960 you will find all precedent notes in pdf form.

:wave:

robertsloan2
04-16-2011, 06:39 PM
Nettie, yes, these are the ones! Thank you! Glad you're enjoying them.

Analia, thank you so much again. What you're doing is priceless.

LOTS today, seven pages worth. Big pages.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2011/70184-4-16-2011-Class-23-Saturday-Page-1-of-7.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2011/70184-4-16-2011-Class-23-Saturday-Page-2-of-7.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2011/70184-4-16-2011-Class-23-Saturday-Page-3-of-7.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2011/70184-4-16-2011-Class-23-Saturday-Page-4-of-7.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2011/70184-4-16-2011-Class-23-Saturday-Page-5-of-7.jpg

robertsloan2
04-16-2011, 06:43 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2011/70184-4-16-2011-Class-23-Saturday-Page-6-of-7.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2011/70184-4-16-2011-Class-23-Saturday-Page-7-of-7.jpg

DrDebby
04-16-2011, 07:58 PM
Thanks for these. My computer over heated and shut down. *sigh* I think I've been able to see the whole of only about 1/3 of these classes.

junemoon
04-16-2011, 08:10 PM
Many thanks for your notes. It's hard to keep up with the seminar when
other matters interrupt plans.
Marion

Analia
04-17-2011, 10:50 AM
Well, here I've uploaded yesterday's: http://es.scribd.com/doc/53192672/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-23-April-16-2011.
I'm a little sad. No matter how much it has taken from me to be there every saturday and sunday in my present situation, I will definitely miss Johannes' classes :(

robertsloan2
04-17-2011, 11:49 AM
Thank you all! Purr!

Analia, yes, I know what you mean. Today's the very last day. He's got a video he made out on a plein air trip and he's going to narrate it, then... it's over. I have so much to assimilate into my work and into my life.

I feel like it's a graduation too.

I have to think about my career now. How am I going to use this material? I heard what he said... he wants to see a horde of us all succeed in improving our paintings and flood the galleries with good paintings, flood the contests with winning entries, spawn a whole cluster of new professional painters. Where I fit in that group is going to be interesting because Johannes isn't my only influence - I'll fall somewhere between him and the Sarback-Herczfeld-Hensche School of Color and Light - but he's made so many things make more sense.

It has taken me this long to Get It about green. It took my staring out the window yesterday at a spring afternoon in Arkansas to see the subtle glints of orange and sienna in the bright greens of the foliage and lawns. Pure neon acid green is an accent, even in nature. Half the time that accent is bordered with orange. And that's in springtime when "new leaf color with light behind it" covers the most area. It does not show up pure in masses.

Some of the paintings he likes are more muted than I like. Some of the times people avoid green entirely, I think they went too far. I don't think "leave green out of your palette" is the only solution, it's just a solution. I'll probably never knock it back as far as he does, but when I do paintings with higher saturation they are more unified. I've gotten an autumn scene to work with an emerald green element and was surprised at how small an area in it is actually emerald green. If I'd painted it looser the entire emerald green patch would have been one stroke. Yet it reads as bright green autumn grass contrasting with trees that have begun to turn or have turned.

What I love about all his lessons is the way that he explains why these tricks work. What each of them is used for. That violet does harmonize the lemon greens if you need to put them in to make the painting true to what you mean by it. That golden nugget would be worth buying the entire course in itself because I have always loved that shade of green.

He's never talked about underwater paintings but the next time I paint a coral reef I'll be using every one of his design principles - and the viewer will be drawn in to wander around among the tropical fish and corals for hours, be able to rest their minds wandering into the painting as if they had a saltwater aquarium or a window into the ocean in their room. I've never succeeded at conveying that reef yet - that feeling that the painting is a window into the entire ocean at one of its loveliest warm places. Now I think I will.

If I understand light and color well enough it won't matter that there are places in the world I'm not physically capable of visiting to paint. I won't ever be able to boat up the Amazon to paint the jungle that I love, but I may be able to piece it together from references and videos and what I know about light in similar latitudes above the equator.

I might be able to learn to paint well enough to become self supporting and afford a vacation to the Keys and get to snorkel or ride a glass bottom boat above living reefs - and when I do I'll finally be capable of painting from life and making the most of that trip. The very next time I get to go somewhere beautiful, I will be able to use my sketchbook to record it far better than I ever have in my life.

My plein air adventures have been a joke.

First go at it with a beautiful little Winsor & Newton Watercolor Field Box that contained everything, brush, water, palettes, pans. I loved that thing. Went on vacation interior of California to a lake near the mountains. Rocks, mountains, forests, rocky beach, wonderful views. I was in love with the scene. I painted a little interesting corner of pine branch and a vague line that might have been the horizon edge of the lake and could not figure out what that was, but I got the colors right on the pine branch and all its details. That took all afternoon and I never got the scene in! I didn't know how to sketch, only how to paint detail by detail following a photo.

Latest go at it, I tried to get the whole scene in very fast. A five or ten minute scribble trying to jam the whole scene in resulted in an unintelligible scribble with a bright yellow blob in it because a forsythia bush was in bloom and had to be put exactly where it was and get the color right. Well, it was that color. But the photos I took at the time do not show the colors of the rocks or the shapes of any of the trees or the lay of the land. Ouch. You can't even tell what that scribble is, it's not even a landscape sketch.

So tomorrow, after class, I'm going out in my yard where the salmon irises have bloomed and I'm going to see what I can sketch from my yard. I'm going land snorkeling from my front yard. Anything beautiful or cool, anything with an interesting shape. Since I want the irises, I'll definitely do an iris or two but I'll move around it till I've got a good abstract shape. I'll look around 360 degrees to pick out all the good things visible and ignore the rest, try not to put all of it in the same sketch or detail the iris. That's what the camera's for, the details.

I think it'll work this time.

Analia
04-17-2011, 12:50 PM
You know something, Robert? I always felt the same as you describe about plein air painting. Unable to put even near all that information to work for me. Same thing about the slavery to photos, I was very uncertain about what to keep and what to erase and why.
I haven´t been able to paint and submit the exercises cause of my mother's illness, and I hope to find the time to work more. But I´ll always keep these lessons as a treasure: there are very few (and I mean VERY) teachers willing to share this kind of knowledge with beginners or amateurs, maybe they fear for possible future competition... Johannes is so generous, that really comes from self confidence. And for what I guess is not such a profitable income for him as it comes free!
Then, I´ve been thinking that in fact all these have been lessons on freedom, about "slavery abolition" of any kind. Learning the rules that make a good painting, then intermix this new knowledge with other hints you can pick here and there to make your work truly yours.

I hope he decides to repeat the experience, and of course hope that our contact, which has been so kind and fruitful, will also continue (and I mean with ALL you friends!)

See (read) you later!

pixieartist
04-17-2011, 01:59 PM
Hi, Yes, today is the very last day. So sad, as I have been enjoying these classes since I found out about them in mid Feb. Amid all the tech gliches, I also learned more about the computer world, and how to navigate better etc. I just printed off your set of notes, Robert, from yesterday. Thankyou so very much for taking such excellent notes and sharing them here for the rest of us. I also took notes, and I am ashamed that they are not as neat as yours...you know, speed is of the essence, and you need to get every word said!!! Ha Ha Ha. Anyway, I have a lot of hole punching with my single hole puncher in order to get these notes into my binder for this class!!! Is there a time limit on purchasing the 'videos' of this course??? I have been advised by my daughter's boyfriend not to get them yet as I more than likely won't be able to get them onto DVD's as the present time as everytime I tried to download Johannes handouts from our home computer, the downloads would keep downloading on and on and on. I had started one download a couple weeks?? ago, then ran upstairs to have breakfast, so about 30 mins had passed when I made it back to the computer and saw the downloading was still going, but a whole lot slower . (over 200 pages!) I mentioned the problem to hubby, and he came down and between the two of us, we xed out over and over the downloads. It kept going on and on and on again, so hubby said he had to shut down the computer when this had happened to him some time ago, so we did it that day too. Well everything was pretty slow to do with the computer, but we finally were able to get into my e-mail so that I could get into that day's class. I had no problem downloading the handouts when at work, so I figure it's our computer. The 'boyfriend' has fixed computers as a living a few years ago, so he knows what needs to be done, so hopefully he will get over the cold bug he has right now, and will be able to get things rolling again for us. In the meantime, he said yes, (but not immediately) that I could use his computer to get the videos and copy them onto DVDs. Then I'll be able to watch them on our TV!!! That way I can see the lessons that I had missed in Jan and early Feb and the ones that I had tech problems with due to lack of experience!!!
So Robert, thanks again. For the demo today, do we just get into the webinar and then Johannes will guide us to the right 'spot' for the demo??? Hope so. Too bad about his not being able to e-mail all of us. Well, it's almost 12 noon, and time to get into the webinar early!! Talk to you soon, Pixieartist

robertsloan2
04-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Yes. Go to the webinar and then open the Live Webcam link on http://improvemypaintings.com and you can get into Stickam for the video portion. This is going to rock. That's also where you can order the video downloads - and once bought, F&W will store them and let you download them anytime if you have any delay in actually getting to the down loading.

robertsloan2
04-17-2011, 08:55 PM
The last class...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Apr-2011/70184-4-17-2011-Class-24-Saturday-Page-1-of-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Apr-2011/70184-4-17-2011-Class-24-Saturday-Page-2-of-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Apr-2011/70184-4-17-2011-Class-24-Saturday-Page-3-of-6.jpg

robertsloan2
04-17-2011, 08:56 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Apr-2011/70184-4-17-2011-Class-24-Saturday-Page-4-of-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Apr-2011/70184-4-17-2011-Class-24-Saturday-Page-5-of-6.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Apr-2011/70184-4-17-2011-Class-24-Saturday-Page-6-of-6.jpg

The very last three pages. Of the set. Thank you again for doing the PDFs, Analia!

Analia
04-17-2011, 09:11 PM
http://es.scribd.com/doc/53220521/Robert-Sloan-Notes-Class-24-April-17-2011
Ok, we are done here.
:wave:
Hope to keep in touch!

R Leon
04-18-2011, 01:16 AM
So do you have to buy a Scribd membership to be able to download the files that Analia so kindly created? Because it let me download one and then would not let me download the others.:confused:

Analia
04-18-2011, 08:50 AM
So do you have to buy a Scribd membership to be able to download the files that Analia so kindly created? Because it let me download one and then would not let me download the others.:confused:
Hello! No no, you don't have to buy anything, you can download it for free, if you wish you can register, it´s for free also :)

Analia
04-18-2011, 08:54 AM
Excuse me , I didn´t answer the rest: scroll down in my profile or go to the "my shelf" section and you'll see all the documents, choose the one you want and that´s it, you have to be in each specific document screen to download it.

Analia
04-18-2011, 08:56 AM
In case you didn´t take note, my scribd profile is http://www.scribd.com/Analia6960 there you can get ALL the notes and the Questions/Answers Johannes posted :wave:

Analia
04-19-2011, 06:55 PM
I've just uploaded the last weekend's Questions/Answers: http://es.scribd.com/doc/53384377/Johannes-Vloothuis-General-Questions-April-16-17
:)

R Leon
04-21-2011, 04:25 PM
Analia, thanks for clarifting that and for all of your work converting these notes.

Reba

Analia
04-21-2011, 07:01 PM
Reba, great you could find them all! :wave:

Analia
05-01-2011, 03:26 PM
April, 30th Questions/Answers: http://es.scribd.com/doc/54363096/Johannes-Vloothuis-General-Questions-April-30

:wave:

cosmos05
05-10-2011, 05:21 AM
I would love the notes on Johannes class.my email is sunshine123@iinet.net.au thankyou so much.Lorri:clap:

Analia
05-10-2011, 03:46 PM
Hello Lorri, I stopped sending the files by email cause I uploaded them all in Scribd. You can go to http://www.scribd.com/Analia6960, there you scroll down and will see all them to be read and/or downloaded for free. Message me if you have any questions :)

claudiastrader
05-10-2011, 05:02 PM
I would reallly like to have Robert's notes as well saved on my computer as I have with Johannes, I am having real withdrawal pains from the webinar being over.
Is there a way to save Robert's notes in a folder, was able to do that with Johannes since they were in PDF?
I appreciate so much both these sets of notes, they very well covers the webinar.
Many hugs and thanks.

Analia
05-10-2011, 05:33 PM
Claudia, as I told Lorri already, you can go to my profile http://www.scribd.com/Analia6960 and there you will find all Robert's notes in pdf form, scroll down or go to "my shelf" and download them, there are all questions/answers too.
Tell me if you have any problem.
:wave:

cosmos05
05-20-2011, 05:18 AM
Thankyou so much for doing this it was very generous of you.what a fabulous web site.I was unable to catch the webinar due to the difference in the time lines but I have most of it now.once again thankyou. cheers Lorri

rwhiteley
07-30-2011, 05:17 PM
I have downloaded video of the first two webinars, does anyone know where I can get the others. thanks