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Mikki Petersen
01-22-2003, 01:50 AM
Okay, I decided to try oil pastel to do my piece for the Mountains and Lakes Project in the Landscape forum. Wellll, I am surprisingly pleased with the finished piece when I stand way, way back from it. Up close, and in this image, I think it looks like I did it with my grandkids' crayolas. I find they do not blend hardly at all and just sort of gum up along the high points of the paper's texture. Did I use them wrong? One thing I did like is you can do color mixing with them simply by smearing one color over another.

Bow Lake - Experimental
Oil Pastel on lt blue canson
14x11

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Jan-2003/14550-Bow_Lake-a.jpg

Lulu
01-22-2003, 02:00 AM
your painting has a wonderful vibrancy to it Mikki. I've never tried oil pastels, very tempted though.

Dark_Shades
01-22-2003, 03:03 AM
I can see what you are saying Mikki (crayolas) ....... But I think you have done an EXCELLENT job :clap:
love the light in this........ and those wonderful green trees ...... distant mountains ...... love it ...... post another pic not such a close up


good one Mikki :clap:

Mikki Petersen
01-22-2003, 03:57 AM
Thanks Dawn and Lulu. I cannot imagine why anyone would prefer these things over soft pastels but I have read all sorts of posts from people who love them. To each his own, I guess. For my money, I'll leave the crayolas to the children.:(

moo67
01-22-2003, 04:30 AM
Lovely work and i love the colours.I can understand fully by what you mean about the oil pastels being like kiddies crayons.To me as well the two pieces i played around with when first starting to use pastels are done in oil and yeah they look ok from a distance but i hate them close up.
you have done a lovely job regardless.
Moo:clap:

Mikki Petersen
01-22-2003, 04:51 AM
Thanks, Moo. You probably won't be seeing any more of these from me, up close or far away. Life is too short to waste time with an unsatisfactory medium.

moo67
01-22-2003, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by 1mpete
Thanks, Moo. You probably won't be seeing any more of these from me, up close or far away. Life is too short to waste time with an unsatisfactory medium.

LOL......1mpete....that last line would make a great signature.
Moo:D

Redsy333
01-22-2003, 05:41 AM
That hillside with the grass is Marveloussss!!!! Love all the colors you captured, truely beautiful:D
I think Ive done one Oil pastel like 15 yrs ago..lol and thats bout it, I felt the same as you did! Only difference is I think you should give em a go more often ;) well done!

bikevstar
01-22-2003, 08:17 AM
Ditto! I have oil pastels as well and personally, I don't like them at all. I like the soft pastels much better. I feel more confident with them. It's probably like everythng else though, the more you practice the better you get.

Kelly

Nicolart
01-22-2003, 09:32 AM
Mikki, that's so beautiful, love the texture and those colors!!!:clap:

bnoonan
01-22-2003, 11:47 AM
Mikki,

My experience has been much the same. However... one day I decided to top off my soft pastels with oil pastels because I had the more intense colors in that set. It came out pretty good (though the composition wasn't the best). If I can find the image, I'll post it.

Just put them away - never throw those art supplies away. You never can tell.....

Barb

just dave
01-22-2003, 01:50 PM
Get the book "Oil Pastel for the Serious Beginner." Recently published. very helpful.

Are you using artists' oil pastels? The craft store ones can be just like soft crayons.

Mikki Petersen
01-22-2003, 02:57 PM
Dave, I have to admit I was using a student set of Cray-pas that I bought for my grandson and some (actually better consistency) no name ones that came in a combination art set someone gave me. I did this as an experiment to see if I would be interested in ordering a set of senelliers. Are you saying the senelliers might be more satisfying? I like the no dust feature of the oil pastels and the fact that the final is less fragile than the soft pastels.

Barb, thanks for looking. And I never throw any art stuff away. I still have my old dried up oil set from high school, which is almost old enought to classify as an antique, LOL. That's why my studio is so stuffed to the seams. And we will not even talk about my sewing room...if fabric were valuable, I would be so rich!

Redsy, Kelly and Nicolart, thank you for looking and sharing your experience. Glad to know it's not just me.

Zyrka
01-22-2003, 03:21 PM
Very nice result !!!

At my first (and last up till now) oil pastel attempt I decided it was not for me but the "no-dust" effect made me try out the Carré Conté. Now I use them as a complement to soft pastels, they are nearly dust-free and aren't at all scratchy like pastel pencils.

By accident I discovered that moderate use of oil pastels in "expertimental" aquarelles can give nice effects.

Anyway, your oil pastel is lovely.

Zyrka

Mikki Petersen
01-22-2003, 04:01 PM
Thanks Zyrka for the information. I have to admit I was just browsing Art Supply Warehouse.com to check out the pricing on the Aquarelles and on some artist quality oil pastels. If I could get past the crayola effect, I would not mind the oil pastels for landscape work.

sundiver
01-22-2003, 05:39 PM
The cheap pastels are very frustrating to work with. I have a few Holbein's artist-quality oil pastels now and like the way they blend and layer. They are also more opaque and less greasy.
I'm waiting to hear how Karen likes her new Sennelliers. And jerryW prefers the Cray-Pas Specialist, which I haven't tried either.
I've been reading everything I can find on oil pastels (not much) and most articles talk about some kind of underpainting.In the latest one, which Karen sent me, the artist describes going over the first coat of pastel with a brush and mineral spirits, to stain the paper and get rid of the white. I'm going to try that very soon.
Don't give up on them, because you did a wonderful job with the cheapies! :clap:

Mo.
01-22-2003, 07:42 PM
Hey Mikki about 30 years ago I toook up art again after school days, and I started with oil pastels, they were such a messy sort of medium, but because at the time I couldn't afford to splash out for oils, this to me was the introduction to oils. I loved them, did a lot of work with them and sold quite a few too. You can use turps to dilute them, just like oils, you can warm them up so that apply more easily too, they take lots of blending with the fingers or torchons, but some really good effects can be made with them, I still have my oil pastels, I'll have to try them out again. They are not like kiddies crayons, not to me anyway. Although they are not the easiest of mediums.

You've done a good job here with them.

Mikki Petersen
01-22-2003, 08:28 PM
Wow! There are certainly a variety of things that can be done that I knew nothing about. I guess this is like the people who come to this forum and state they tried pastel and it was way too hard to do, eh? I was looking at prices and the Cray-pas Specialists are much less expensive than the Senelliers. I've heard enough to know I cannot judge by this experience with student grade materials. should have known better.