Jester-WIP. [Archive]

Mo.

01-20-2003, 05:53 PM

Because I feel such a clot about the other WIP. I thought this one would be appropriate.:D size 18 x13 black Art Spectrum, Rembrandts.

Ref pic.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Jan-2003/5154-jester_sm.jpg

As it stands at the moment, the first stages.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Jan-2003/5154-Jester_WIP.jpg

Comments as ususal are welcomed.

guilliame

01-20-2003, 06:08 PM

Hey Mo, nice to meet you in just for fun, i guess mo stands for maureen huhh:D.
Certainly a challenge but looking good so far and i dont envy you the painting needed on the material but i'm sure you will do a fine job and i will be looking with interest on your comments when you come to do it in your progress pics:) .

Dark_Shades

01-20-2003, 06:33 PM

hope you have locked up your pets this time...... this is going to be interesting to watch with all the diff materials

Mo.

01-20-2003, 06:43 PM

Thanks Guilliame, lot's of Americans think I'm a man, but didn't think the Brits would.:D Yes it's short for Maureen (Irish origin) True Celt me. ;) If DH calls me Maureen, I know I'm in trouble!:D :D

Dawn, yep I'll try to control the monster, trouble is when I'm painting, they want attention! Can't win, and I'm just a softee.:)
No hard shell to me. :D I'm like a choccy marshmallow! :D Unlress anyone crosses me that is.;)

Anyhooo put you sharp eyes over the eye area for me will you?

Dark_Shades

01-20-2003, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Mo.

Anyhooo put you sharp eyes over the eye area for me will you?
You sure?

not sure how close you want the likeness to the guy in photo.... but he's face appears thinner and longer than yours ..he's fringe comes down lower in photo.... not sure any of that is important in this though - is it?

bikevstar

01-20-2003, 06:56 PM

I like yours better than the original. Nice job. I love the blunt strokes.

Kelly

guilliame

01-20-2003, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Mo.
Thanks Guilliame, lot's of Americans think I'm a man, but didn't think the Brits would.:D Yes it's short for Maureen (Irish origin) True Celt me. ;) If DH calls me Maureen, I know I'm in trouble!:D :D

Dawn, yep I'll try to control the monster, trouble is when I'm painting, they want attention! Can't win, and I'm just a softee.:)
No hard shell to me. :D I'm like a choccy marshmallow! :D Unlress anyone crosses me that is.;)

Anyhooo put you sharp eyes over the eye area for me will you?
Sorry Mo ,my assumptiom was based purely on the fact that i once used to play golf with a guy called mo his name was morris strange huhh:D

Mo.

01-20-2003, 07:05 PM

Sheesh Dawn you crack me up!:D , that's not a fringe, that's a hat!! But thanks girl, I take it on board know what you mean, I'll double check that tomorrow. His bottom lip looks too full too.

Hey Kelly, I like you Thanks my friend. ;)

Mo.

01-20-2003, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by guilliame

Sorry Mo ,my assumptiom was based purely on the fact that i once used to play golf with a guy called mo his name was morris strange huhh:D

No not at all, 'cos it is an abrreviated name for men too, confusing hey?:D My late uncle who lived in Cornwall, (Sticker, just outside St. Austell) had a similar name to yours, it was Williame..SP? pronounced Willum... do you pronounce your name as Gwillum?

guilliame

01-20-2003, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Mo.

No not at all, 'cos it is an abrreviated name for men too, confusing hey?:D My late uncle who lived in Cornwall, (Sticker, just outside St. Austell) had a similar name to yours, it was Williame..SP? pronounced Willum... do you pronounce your name as Gwillum?
Only after a couple of gin and orange schnappes:D

Luvy

01-20-2003, 07:18 PM

This is going to be great Can't wait *S* :clap: Can't wait to see how you do these colors *S*

Mo.

01-20-2003, 07:20 PM

Hehehe! You drink Gin? I've never met a man who drinks Gin, don't mean to be disrespectful, but when I mention gin to my DH he goes Uggh! He drinks Scotch! ;)

Mo.

01-20-2003, 07:23 PM

Thanks Luvy, It's challenge for sure. ;)

guilliame

01-20-2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Mo.
Hehehe! You drink Gin? I've never met a man who drinks Gin, don't mean to be disrespectful, but when I mention gin to my DH he goes Uggh! He drinks Scotch! ;)
No i never drink gin i picked up on it earlier on one of Luvy's quotes [sorry Luvy] it's just that i had never heard of gin and orange schnappes together sounds like it would go down well with Del boy's baileys and raspberryade:D

Dark_Shades

01-20-2003, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Mo.
Sheesh Dawn you crack me up!:D , that's not a fringe, that's a hat!! But thanks girl, I take it on board know what you mean, I'll double check that tomorrow. His bottom lip looks too full too.

well blimmey Mo...... you could post a pic size I could see instead of getting eye strain!! ........ and theres me thinking I had a headache because of the tour of duty I just did in here - yeah noticed the lips too :)

Hey Kelly, I like you Thanks my friend. ;) you are such a creep sometimes Mo :p lolol (only jesting - lolol)

ok thats me signing out for the night..... got NOTHING done Grrrrr#

bye from your Dear Friend (who now has eye strain)

Dark_Shades

01-20-2003, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by guilliame

No i never drink gin i picked up on it earlier on one of Luvy's quotes [sorry Luvy] it's just that i had never heard of gin and orange schnappes together sounds like it would go down well with Del boy's baileys and raspberryade:D

Luvely Jubbley :D

Mo.

01-20-2003, 07:52 PM

I'm no creep I know who my fans/friends are.:D I'll take compliments any time it's a huge ego booster! We ALL need it! Got the message?:D As to size. this is the is the size I'm working from, I just zoom in, working straight off the computer, no wonder my computer is having hiccups, it's full of pastel dust!

Del boys baileys!! LOLOL Did you see Frost on Sunday night? How's that for target? :D!!!

Thanks all!.Night, night, seeya!!

Mikki Petersen

01-21-2003, 04:18 AM

Hi Mo. This is going to be great. I've just got a feeling.

I do not know if this is supposed to be a likeness. You have a good start on a perfectly fine fellow. but if it's a practice at getting likenesses...The eyes are good and balanced and look like they are surprised just as in the photo. The face on your guy is rounder, the mouth a bit fuller and the shadows going down from the corners of the mouth are too long giving a jowly effect.

All that said...if it's not anyone you know and are trying to paint a likeness of, who cares? The painted face you have is ver well balanced and full of character.

Dave.t

01-21-2003, 03:47 PM

I really no little (nothing is more accurate)of portrait work - looks a great start and expression looks right.
I'm guessing the fingers on his left hand might be the biggest challenge.

My only query - the shape of the jester's left eye is too 'full on'......needs more 3/4 angle?

I am sure this will turn out well - very much looking forward to next posting.

Dave:)

Mo.

01-21-2003, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by 1mpete
Hi Mo. This is going to be great. I've just got a feeling.

I do not know if this is supposed to be a likeness. You have a good start on a perfectly fine fellow. but if it's a practice at getting likenesses...The eyes are good and balanced and look like they are surprised just as in the photo. The face on your guy is rounder, the mouth a bit fuller and the shadows going down from the corners of the mouth are too long giving a jowly effect.

All that said...if it's not anyone you know and are trying to paint a likeness of, who cares? The painted face you have is ver well balanced and full of character.

Well Mikki, I'm going to try for a decent likeness if I can, but the ref pic is rather small, and blown up gets a little pixelated, thanks for all the pointers they are much appreciated, I only managed about 2 hours tonight, but hopefully managed to correct some errors. Thanks Mikki. :)

Thanks Dave for your kind comments too! :)

Here's the latest stage, I feel the right eye still needs some work, but I concentrated more on the shape of the face and hat.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2003/5154-jester_WIP_02.jpg

Mikki Petersen

01-21-2003, 11:01 PM

Oh wow! Wish I could narrow in on the problems and just make them right like that. This is amazing. I know this piece was going to have greatness! I think the eye is okay now. The rest of the face is for sure.

Dark_Shades

01-22-2003, 02:54 AM

Ya done good Mo...... even with he's fringe :p hee hee

bnoonan

01-22-2003, 12:15 PM

Mo,

What a delightful subject matter and great piece of WIP. You absolutely have to post this when you finish it. I can't wait to see it completed.

I just dropped in and followed a few of the comments that others have offered. One thing I noticed and I think could really help it be a bit more dramatic, (IMHO) would be to darken the shadows in the face to match the photograph. There is a sense of mystery in dark shapes and you could really introduce some rich colors in there.

Now... that's got to be a bit scary after all the work you've done already, so give it a try in Photoshop if you have it and see what it does. (That's been my method).

The hands are starting out great but re-measure once more. For some reason, I think they are a tad bit too long - I tried to look again and see. Perhaps the thumb comes towards you more and the middle finger is slightly shorter??? Hmm..

Keep it going!!!! Love seeing the WIP.

Barb

Mo.

01-22-2003, 06:13 PM

Thanks folks, I'm quite excited about this particular piece, but I've hit a stumbling block at the moment, hopefully I'll overcome it.

Barb, thanks for drawing my eyes to the hands, I rechecked and you are correct, the fingers were a tad long, like the idea of rich dark colours in the shadows. :)

Cheers,

Mo.

01-26-2003, 07:14 PM

Well I scrapped the first WIP of this one, having real problems with the Art spectrum paper, so what did I do? :D :p used the other half of the black Art Spectrum, you'd think I'd learn wouldn't you? But it was the only sheet of black I had, so this is the second attempt and still having probs, but lets hope I'll see it through this time, I think I have a better likeness developing this time. This is two days work about 10 hours total, it's becoming more of a challenge than I thought, so still a loooong way to go.

I have some new pastels coming this week so I'm hoping I'll have more colours to play around with, I'm a bit limited just now.

Critique all you like, all critiques will be taken on board, I need some sound advice on this one. :)
Thanks for looking. :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Jan-2003/5154-jester__WIP_03.jpg

Sorry I cropped the edge of the pic a little with the cam, getting tired I guess.

Mikki Petersen

01-26-2003, 09:38 PM

Oh, Mo...I liked the other one but his one is a much better likeness. Almost looks like a different technique. I do not see anythig to criticise yet...so far all the proportions look good to me. I'm just wondering how you keep that black paper so clean?

bnoonan

01-26-2003, 09:51 PM

Mo it's great! Have to agree with Mikki - it's truly a greater resemblance. Keep going and I wish you lovely rich reds and maroons. The shoulder blade/back on #1 was fabulous and I think of the potential ahead of you.

Yahoo! Be very proud!!!:clap:

Comments: Bring the hair or dark shape that looks like his hair on his right ear down a bit more. I think you can work that area a bit more with some color when you get some in. I see more "shapes". the fingers are fabulous - check the width of the palm of the hand - could it be a bit wide or is it just missing the shadows below it that will shrink it a bit? I think the dark part of the sleeve below the gold insert may be a bit thicker but I'm looking at a dark image so I can't quite tell. How about the cuff - is that a bit wide? Maybe that's why the hand looks so thick?

Hmmm...

that's enough for now. I'm sure you're sick of me. Hope it helps

Barb

Dark_Shades

01-27-2003, 08:55 AM

now you know Im saying everything wrong lately :p ... just asking ok :D ... is this still WIP, now Im not hinting that it looks like a WIP .... Im just checking :)

... Great Likeness Mo ... good un :clap: ....... funny how were all having probs at the mo innit ;) .... must all be suffering with that SAD ..... only thing as Bnoonan mentioned.... the thumb is a bit lost in colour with the palm ... will have to go and look back on the photo .... would like to see the colours stronger personally

.... what about a still life mo ...... Im liking them alot lately :D

guilliame

01-27-2003, 12:43 PM

Hi Mo, i just love what you have done with this,shame you had to scrap the first one,but this is just as good if not better:clap: :clap:
I'd like to see this one mounted and framed:D

Mo.

01-27-2003, 06:21 PM

Wow!! Thanks everyone, glad you all think the likeness is looking better, Bnoonan, thanks for the pointers, I'm waiting for my newpastels before I continue, so as you say some rich dark luscious res in those shadows, ;) I hope.! Thanks loads.

Dawn, thanks...yes it is still WIP, a loong way to go yet...still life hey? I will if you paint a couple of green cabbages, green pepper, and a green banana and a green jug and a green vase..... :p :evil:

Dark_Shades

01-28-2003, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by Mo.

Dawn, thanks...yes it is still WIP, a loong way to go yet...still life hey? I will if you paint a couple of green cabbages, green pepper, and a green banana and a green jug and a green vase..... :p :evil:

Ya nasty woman :p .... you trying to bore me to death lolol :D

Mo.

02-01-2003, 06:59 PM

Well this is as far as I'm going with this baby.. I've been working on this all day, absolutely sick of it now. I had some new Ashby soft pastels delivered today, beautiful set of colours, but not many darks, :( . The pastels are very similar to Rembrandts, so I felt comfortable with them right off. So used them to complete this painting. Think I'll go for something less ambitious next time, this one's been a right pain. :D:p

Comment and critique alll you like, I'm not going to alter a thing !! LOL!:D:D:D.

I know the faults that are there, and they can stay there too! :D :p

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2003/5154-jester_final.jpg

Cheers,
Mo.