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Pilan
01-14-2003, 08:03 PM
Wheres the bitch forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i had a really reallly bad last two days of painting............... sheeeeeetz

madster
01-14-2003, 08:28 PM
Sorry you've had a rough time, but no, I see no need for a "bitch forum."

We're here to encourage each other...debates? questions? certainly. Bitching? Nahhhh....it's too easy to bitch about things. It's more challenging to learn how to overcome them.

Like my Most Beloved says:
"Deal with it, get over yourself, and move on..."

You'll never find "something wonderful" if you waste your energy bitching...

mallory
01-14-2003, 08:39 PM
I want you to know that we here at WC acknowledge your pain and frustration. We will not try to solve your problems, but offer you the opportunity to honestly express how you feel, in this, your very own thread, created just for you. (by you actually). We give you this because we too have experienced what you are feeling. :)

For instance, last week I went out twice to paint plein air. My fingers got cold. I was in places that should have inspired great paintings. Yet both attempts are comparable to something one might step in while walking in the park. :crying:

I'm on a diet and the only good that came from painting was that I wasn't also snacking. :)

So just go ahead Pilan, tell us how you feel about your painting. Its even okay with me if you use the real bad words instead of the %*#& symbols. (although at some point the moderators may not agree)

We will all listen attentively, and when you are done, we will lower our collective head and mutter, "poor baby" at what you have had to go through.

Fortunately for us all they just keep making new canvas and watercolor paper! :D

mallory

Pilan
01-14-2003, 09:59 PM
Thanks Mallory, You actually saw through the word bitch. I am not really meaning bitch as bitching about it but rather frustrated because I am trying really hard.

I went out plein aire painting as well the last couple of days. The awful thing is I am not comfortable with people watching over my shoulder nor do I want it even if I was GREAT at it! So, I stayed in my car and painted. Its just not the same and also before it was not problem getting down a painting while outside but now it seems that I can't seem to choose or focus on one thing. I started the painting and brought it home and tried to finish it. ugh! I screwed it up because I kept fiddling with it.
This saying is true and is only directed towards me right now. It takes two people to paint, one to paint the picture and the other one to take the brush away!

I am hoping that I can get the water back to the way it needs to be. I may need to make a trip out again. so this is very frustrating. I am really putting on the pressure and need to. I want to learn how to paint better. Sometimes i make mistakes and the paintings turn out fairly good.
sigh! :(

Thank you for responding with your story I dont feel like I am alone now. I am certainly glad that this is normal feelings.
Pilan

Originally posted by mallory
I want you to know that we here at WC acknowledge your pain and frustration. We will not try to solve your problems, but offer you the opportunity to honestly express how you feel, in this, your very own thread, created just for you. (by you actually). We give you this because we too have experienced what you are feeling. :)

For instance, last week I went out twice to paint plein air. My fingers got cold. I was in places that should have inspired great paintings. Yet both attempts are comparable to something one might step in while walking in the park. :crying:

I'm on a diet and the only good that came from painting was that I wasn't also snacking. :)

So just go ahead Pilan, tell us how you feel about your painting. Its even okay with me if you use the real bad words instead of the %*#& symbols. (although at some point the moderators may not agree)

We will all listen attentively, and when you are done, we will lower our collective head and mutter, "poor baby" at what you have had to go through.

Fortunately for us all they just keep making new canvas and watercolor paper! :D

mallory

bikevstar
01-14-2003, 10:01 PM
You know...you go and complain and let it out! That is your own thread and you can $%#@$ if you want to! I've had a rough few months so I know how you feel. Sometimes you just gotta let it out. Sometimes that's the only way of getting past it. Don't ask me though cause I haven't gotten past it yet. Good luck and you take care.

Kelly

Pilan
01-14-2003, 10:04 PM
Now Kelly you were just the person I thought could make everything better :D .
thanks for the support.
Pilan

Originally posted by bikevstar
You know...you go and complain and let it out! That is your own thread and you can $%#@$ if you want to! I've had a rough few months so I know how you feel. Sometimes you just gotta let it out. Sometimes that's the only way of getting past it. Don't ask me though cause I haven't gotten past it yet. Good luck and you take care.

Kelly :D

Rose Queen
01-15-2003, 12:21 AM
{{{{{{{{{{{{Pilan and Mallory}}}}}}}}}}

We all have these weeks, of course, and many more setbacks in life, besides, but your friends here are pulling for you, so bitch all you like, then get back to that palette! :angel:



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Gisele
01-15-2003, 08:35 AM
One of the best reason I enjoyed TAW chats so much is that it gave people a place to vent and get support from other fellow artists ( and it's private too) Paintfool (Cheryl) did say that we would keep the sunday night chats but don't know if they are still on...Where is Cheryl anyway? Cheryl I miss you!

Pilan, I hope you feel better already. You are welcome anytime to paint plein air here with me. As I am typing this it is -27C outside without the wind factor....:D Hot chocolate, fresh cookies and a view from my patio door on snow, snow and more snow....

Gisele:)

bikevstar
01-15-2003, 10:48 AM
I hope you're feeling better today?! Go for a walk, clear your head and please realize that there will be good art days and bad art days. We need the bad ones to realize the good ones. When you do a good piece it will mean more to you now. I'm thinking of you and give yourself time...cause you're very good.

Kelly:)

Pilan
01-15-2003, 12:45 PM
Good Morning Kelly, much better. I did complete a smaller painting I really like. So, it does help sometimes to let out as Gisele said.

Thanks Gisele :angel:. I was hoping that the moderators would not be disturbed at my posting a wanna bitch post .

Frustrating as it is, I keep doing it! Someday my practice will pay off and I will like most of what I am achieving.

Pilan


Originally posted by bikevstar
I hope you're feeling better today?! Go for a walk, clear your head and please realize that there will be good art days and bad art days. We need the bad ones to realize the good ones. When you do a good piece it will mean more to you now. I'm thinking of you and give yourself time...cause you're very good.

Kelly:) :angel:

debi-d
01-15-2003, 01:41 PM
when life hands you lemons
"ask someone to pass you the tequila and salt"
have a wonderful day
debi

ohjay
01-15-2003, 04:51 PM
:D :D :D
That saying scores high on my list! Great one!

Pilan, if you did this, washed it all down with a beer and then went for that walk in the park you talked about in bikevstar's thread, I guess you're felling happy as a kite now:cool:

-oj

Pilan
01-15-2003, 07:55 PM
I LOVE the tequila idea. but love beer on a hot day.

man is this group awsome or what!
love you all! :music: :p




Originally posted by ohjay
:D :D :D
That saying scores high on my list! Great one!

Pilan, if you did this, washed it all down with a beer and then went for that walk in the park you talked about in bikevstar's thread, I guess you're felling happy as a kite now:cool:

-oj

dd50
01-21-2003, 06:18 PM
Damn this bleepidy bleepidy cat! I drew it 20 times, and the ears are STILL crooked ..... and his eyes look RETARDED! Son of a bleepidy ..... bleep bleep bleep!

No good rotten ... son of a bleedpidy bleep bleep BLEEP!!

Stupid tail looks like it's been ran over ..... and slammed in a door, and those whiskers have a son of a 'blank' blank' mind of thier own!

There! :D

Feel better? :D

I share it ALL ..... trust me! ;)

HUGS!
Dee

inisheerstudio
01-21-2003, 06:39 PM
I actually liked this bleep bleep bleeping thread! LOL

It was the first one I clicked on! hahaha.....

When did the word "plein" come into play for outside painting? In the dark. I don't ever remember that for describing "painting outdoors"...just curious. Thanks.....:D

Rose Queen
01-21-2003, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by moondance When did the word "plein" come into play for outside painting?

The full French phrase is "en plein aire," which I think just means "in the open air" or "outside." I don't know when the term originally arose; perhaps a little time spent at Google or a good dictionary site would answer that question.



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mallory
01-21-2003, 08:25 PM
I always thought that the phrase became popular with the French Impressionists (i.e. Monet, Renior..)

mallory

gnu
01-22-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Pilan
Thanks Mallory, You actually saw through the word bitch. I am not really meaning bitch as bitching about it but rather frustrated because I am trying really hard.

I went out plein aire painting as well the last couple of days. The awful thing is I am not comfortable with people watching over my shoulder nor do I want it even if I was GREAT at it! So, I stayed in my car and painted. Its just not the same and also before it was not problem getting down a painting while outside but now it seems that I can't seem to choose or focus on one thing. I started the painting and brought it home and tried to finish it. ugh! I screwed it up because I kept fiddling with it.



I can identify...I haven't gone outside the section , or done much IN the section yet, because of the same issue...only way to solve this, I see, is to grab a painting pal, and go somewhere isolated together, have a great day, and feel safe and private too... I would love this to happen...
At least there are some advantages to studio painting menatime...
Hugs

inisheerstudio
01-24-2003, 07:27 PM
Thank you...hehehe....I probably missed the term when I was sound asleep in my Art History class! :D

I like it.

white-anubis
02-26-2003, 08:19 PM
Sometimes there's bad drawing days where for one reason or another I can't draw a straight circle. I usually just end up wearing a hole in the paper and giving up in digust. Then I found out that sometimes the harder I try the worse it gets. In those cases, just walking away from it and forgetting about it for awhile is better than making a stub out of your eraser and banging your head against the table. When it's really bad, going and yanking weeds or chucking dirt clods seems to help. Even running around the yard and yelling crazy things gets the frustration out. (People stare, but let 'em.) Try not to take it out on innocent bystanders. This seems to have adverse effects. Instead, try getting a hug or tackle somebody playfully, and tell them how much the whole thing sucks. And if all else fails, blame it on your tools.<P></P>
Anyway, laugh about it. Have fun with it. Paint and pencils are just evil sometimes.:D

Pilan
02-27-2003, 04:19 PM
hi walerian i liked your post.... it made me smile. today is a good day but working on the website and trying to get information for packaging my art work UGH!.

so this is the last day of feb. wow this month went fast.

happy painting all.

Pilan

Originally posted by walerian
Sometimes there's bad drawing days where for one reason or another I can't draw a straight circle. I usually just end up wearing a hole in the paper and giving up in digust. Then I found out that sometimes the harder I try the worse it gets. In those cases, just walking away from it and forgetting about it for awhile is better than making a stub out of your eraser and banging your head against the table. When it's really bad, going and yanking weeds or chucking dirt clods seems to help. Even running around the yard and yelling crazy things gets the frustration out. (People stare, but let 'em.) Try not to take it out on innocent bystanders. This seems to have adverse effects. Instead, try getting a hug or tackle somebody playfully, and tell them how much the whole thing sucks. And if all else fails, blame it on your tools.<P></P>
Anyway, laugh about it. Have fun with it. Paint and pencils are just evil sometimes.:D

teresasart
02-28-2003, 11:11 AM
Pilan- glad to hear today is a good day for you. (Not a good day here- still feeling like using all those symbols in the subject heading after a bad day yesterday!) Sometimes working on other things (updating the web site, etc.) can be a good break from painting. Usually when I do stuff like that, I am eager to get back to painting when I am finished. It's amazing how much time all that other business stuff can take!

erik_satie_rolls
03-01-2003, 06:20 AM
Wow, I was thinking of taking up plein aire painting when I got much older, to be outside more, but it sounds like I'd better just start in late spring, while my body can handle the exposure.

;)

ohjay
03-06-2003, 06:38 AM
walerian, maybe it'd help if you remembered that LINES are supposed to be straight, circles are ROUND... ;)

Love this thread, it should be a sticky bitcharoundthread.

white-anubis
03-06-2003, 07:43 PM
Oh! Well that explains everything! All this time I was looking at a 2-D circle sideways, and it looked kinda like a line. Round... gotta 'member that. ;) <P></P>
By the way, today I too have a reason to yell some colorful expletives. I had just finished work on a betta fish drawing and had gotten up to go pour another cup of coffee, came back, and my 2-year-old darling boy was adding to it. All over it. ###[email protected]$ If he wasn't cute...

teresasart
03-06-2003, 11:02 PM
Sometimes I think I should get my dog to paint with her tail... though in certain circles that might do better than my work..... then she'd end up supporting me! ;) (Hey, there's no doggie face icon!)

monettogo
04-18-2009, 07:14 PM
We got 3 1/2 feet of snow at my house yesterday (April 17) and I have a bad case of "cabin fever". Would love to paint plein air because it seems to draw other "feverish" people together, but it is too cold. Gratitude seems to banish a lot of frustration when you think about it.

Rose Queen
04-18-2009, 08:30 PM
Welcome to WetCanvas, monettogo; I don't suppose you noticed that this thread dates to 2003? Feel free to start your own thread about cabin fever in the Cafe Guerbois forum -- there are a number of other WetCanvas members who can sympathize with being snowed in this late in the year!



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Zach Sawan
04-23-2009, 10:14 AM
Hey yo, I feel you. At times making art is a real pain, but that's kind of the cool thing about it. It validates art as a legitimate thing to be taken seriously, like a living thing really. It's actually a lot like a relationship with good times and bad times haha. Stick with it; for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. Yay science!