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Redsy333
01-04-2003, 06:13 PM
Just in case anyone else was looking for those shapers that Gaka showed us, and you couldnt find them in local areas....well here is some FYI

I went to Dickblick supply store to ask about them, always looking and they never have them, at least not that I could see. I have even asked the staff working just in case I was looking in the wrong area! Welpppppp I decided to go ahead and order them via the store and or ask one more time......I got lucky:D:D:D

The young man working;) Was kind enuff to show me what he uses, they were in the SCULPTING/CLAY area!!!! They are the same as what Gaka's link showed, only they were black tip. I got like 5 of these babies all different shapes and angles in a pack/ size 2!!!!!!!!!

I FRIGGIN LOVE EM!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

They are labled as Clay shapers!!
They were very CHEAP tooooooo:D:D:D

so in case YOU are looking to try them, look in your art supplier/crafts for CLAY SHAPERS!!!!

note: In case this has all been said before, please disregard loose-lip lucy(myself) and just have a laugh on me;)

Cheerssssssss

Mo.
01-04-2003, 06:39 PM
Here's a pic of mine and they weren't cheap.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2003/shapers.jpg

From left to right:

Angle chisel firm size 0; Taper chisel firm size 0; Cup chisel soft size 6; Flat chisel firm size 6; Angle chisel firm size 6;

The small sizes are about 2 each The large sizes are about 5 each, dunno how that relates in $$.
But wouldn't be without them.

If anyone has difficulty obtaining these, give me a shout I could get them here for you and post them.

Cheers.

meowmeow
01-04-2003, 06:46 PM
I finally broke down and just ordered them from Dakota. They were not cheap!!! But I decided I had to have them and that I deserved to have them! :D

Sandy

Lulu
01-05-2003, 02:37 AM
about pastel shapers ......
looked at a NZ online art website and this is what I found. First price is recommended retail, second is their price NZ$
Still expensive!!! So ............. can you tell me which ones to get please? I'm confused!

Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Extra Firm 1 inch $34.96 $29.71
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Extra Firm 1.5 inch $44.55 $37.87
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Extra Firm 2 inch $58.32 $49.57
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Extra Firm 2.5 inch $69.75 $59.29
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Extra Firm 3 inch $81.59 $69.35
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Firm 1 inch $34.96 $29.71
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Firm 1.5 inch $44.55 $37.87
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Firm 2 inch $58.32 $49.57
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Firm 2.5 inch $69.75 $59.29
Color Shaper - The Curve Wide Firm 3 inch $81.59 $69.35
Color Shaper - The Decorator 1 inch $38.39 $32.63
Color Shaper - The Decorator 1.5 inch $48.01 $40.81
Color Shaper - The Decorator 2 inch $61.69 $52.43
Color Shaper - The Decorator 2.5 inch $75.20 $63.92
Color Shaper - The Decorator 3 inch $87.12 $74.05
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Extra Firm 1 inch $34.96 $29.71
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Extra Firm 1.5 inch $44.55 $37.87
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Extra Firm 2 inch $58.32 $49.57
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Extra Firm 2.5 inch $69.75 $59.29
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Extra Firm 3 inch $81.59 $69.35
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Firm 1 inch $34.96 $29.71
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Firm 1.5 inch $44.55 $37.87
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Firm 2 inch $58.32 $49.57
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Firm 2.5 inch $69.75 $59.29
Color Shaper - The Flat Wide Firm 3 inch $81.59 $69.35
Colour Shaper Firm - Angle Chisel Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Firm - Angle Chisel Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Firm - Angle Chisel Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Firm - Angle Chisel Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Firm - Angle Chisel Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Chisel Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Chisel Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Chisel Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Chisel Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Chisel Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Round Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Round Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Round Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Round Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Firm - Cup Round Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Firm - Flat Chisel Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Firm - Flat Chisel Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Firm - Flat Chisel Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Firm - Flat Chisel Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Firm - Flat Chisel Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Firm - Taper Point Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Firm - Taper Point Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Firm - Taper Point Size 16 $42.12 $35.80
Colour Shaper Firm - Taper Point Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Firm - Taper Point Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Soft - Angle Chisel Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Soft - Angle Chisel Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Soft - Angle Chisel Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Soft - Angle Chisel Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Soft - Angle Chisel Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Chisel Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Chisel Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Chisel Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Chisel Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Chisel Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Round Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Round Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Round Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Round Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Soft - Cup Round Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Soft - Flat Chisel Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Soft - Flat Chisel Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Soft - Flat Chisel Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Soft - Flat Chisel Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Soft - Flat Chisel Size 6 $29.92 $25.43
Colour Shaper Soft - Taper Point Size 0 $16.72 $14.21
Colour Shaper Soft - Taper Point Size 10 $40.23 $34.20
Colour Shaper Soft - Taper Point Size 16 $58.32 $49.57
Colour Shaper Soft - Taper Point Size 2 $20.79 $17.67
Colour Shaper Soft - Taper Point Size 6 $29.92 $25.43

Mikki Petersen
01-05-2003, 02:48 AM
I just ordered the #6 soft set from Art Supply Warehouse.com for about $25.00 US for the set of 5 shapers. I purchased the #2's from Aaron Bros. Art Mart for about $6.00 each.

Gaka
01-05-2003, 03:32 AM
Hi Everyone

LoL.....Well if the memory of my paintings die away......at least I will be remembered for telling a lot of people about Color Shapers. I just hope that you all have as much success with them as I do/did :D

Keep'em sharp, keep at it and have fun :D

Seeya's Gaka

PS Lulu...I use the Angle Chisel in the No2 and No6 sizes because they are used for doing fine detail, to do anything larger I use a cotton bud or a tissue for. As for mine they are mainly Grey, but I do have an odd black one or two.

gmc
01-05-2003, 07:29 AM
Lulu,

Am I correct, those are the prices quoted for Colour Shapers?

Hold on, I have a Colour Shaper in front of me that I purchased about a year ago for $2.99. I just can't think from where. It was either Dick Blick, ASW or Fineartstore.com.

It says No. 2, taper point, soft Colour Shaper Royal Sovereign Ltd. UK

The ones you quoted seem so expensive and I would never of bought something for that money that I knew nothing about.

Please check around.

geri

Redsy333
01-05-2003, 08:50 AM
Exactly Geri!
I only spent like 19.00 $ US dollar on the set I have, Here they are!! Remember these are not the same as what Gaka showed, but work the same w/half the cost. These are clay shapers and have a rubber tip, like the more expensive!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Jan-2003/halloween_117.jpg

marilyn h
01-05-2003, 11:00 AM
I have had three of these for the past three years. I have used them on clay, grahite and some colored pencil. The colored pencil is too hard to move with them. They might work on the softer leads. I think you really enjoy them. I have a flat, chisel and round. I just noticed that they cost me $5.00 a piece. Rather pricey.

Gaka
01-05-2003, 09:33 PM
Hi Everyone

The Royal Soverign company are the same Colour Shaper company and they make 4 different types of shapers as shown below, I wonder if there is a great price variation between the ivory/grey shapers and the black shapers because of the different compostion of the shaper tips or are they similar to each other?. If someone has access to US prices it would be interesting to compare. They are expensive in Australia as I recall, very similar to Lulu's prices in NZ. If they are a lot cheaper we are better of getting them out of the US!!

The Colour Shaper home page is at the bottom as well.

Seeya Gaka

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COLOUR SHAPER
Originally designed as a 'replacement finger' it allows the user to:

Apply and remove acrylic and oil paint with ease.
Blend, smudge and define pastels
Apply and remove masking fluid
Create decorative effects on glass, ceramics and metal
Within the Colour Shaper range there are two tip grades, soft & firm, IVORY & GREY and each is available in five shapes and sizes.

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CLAY SHAPER
The Clay Shaper has an extra firm, BLACK silicone tip to enable accurate sculpting with a variety of different materials. The tip is very easy to clean and gives the user precise control when working with:

Clay
Plasticene
Epoxy putty
Wax
Heavy body paints
And even adhesives!!

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KIDS SHAPER
Kids Shapers are designed for small hands with big imaginations.

They have:

Short, thick, brightly coloured handles
5 creative tip shapes
2 easy to use sizes


2 easy to use sizes
They can be used for a variety of applications, and because the tips are made from silicone, they are really easy to clean and very strong, so they last longer than brushes!

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WIDE SHAPER
Wide Shapers are specifically designed for large art applications and decorative effects. Available in widths from 1 inch to 3 inches, they have the Colour Shaper silicone tip in two degrees of flexibility:

Firm (grey tip)
Extra Firm (black tip)
There are 3 shapes of tip to choose from depending on the application you have in mind:

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http://www.colourshaper.com/

Lulu
01-06-2003, 01:14 AM
I found some! in my own city!!!!! LOL well I didn't know they existed before..........:)

I bought a No 6 chisel for $18 a no 2 for $13 and a 0 for for $10NZ
Halve those dollars for US$

Lulu
01-06-2003, 01:26 AM
ps the brand I bought is Royal Sovereign

Shirl
01-06-2003, 02:04 AM
Redsy, the dark colored ones are for sculpting. Do they work for you for pastels??? Should get the white tipped ones for pastels. I paid $8.50 for #6 taper point. Lighter gray ones are for acrylic/oil painting, etc. Been using them for months--don't know what I would do without them.

Only store I've been in that has them is Aaron Bros. But I know you can order them online.

Shirl

Redsy333
01-06-2003, 07:13 AM
Yes they do! And they are invaluable for cleaning up edges, and when used to create feathers, fur..etc, they are a dream come true!!
For example: Feathers (wings), I applied my colors, dark line then the lighter beside it. Then I did a small circular motion to blend colors. This gave me the soft feathery texture without losing any pastel.
Then on the body of the bird, where the feathers have a fur appearance. I layered my colors, then went in and used the tip in a downward stroke to define the fur/feathers.
Hope that helps!:D
Also note: (for UK)
The name on my Clay shapers: Royal Sovereign Ltd UK ;) So I know they are originally from your side of the pond!! :D lol

Mikki Petersen
01-06-2003, 09:25 AM
Redsy, thanks for the quick lesson. I have been using the soft (ivory) shapers in #2 size since I stumbled across them several months back and do not know how I could work without them for dtails.

BruceF
01-06-2003, 10:23 AM
Jerry's Artarama carries the Pastel Colourshaper sets. They are under the Pastels->Pastel Accessories->Blenders section.

Here are the direct links:
#2 $15.99
http://www.jerrysartarama.com/shop/ProductDetail.asp?Product_ID=0059581000000
#6 $20.99
http://www.jerrysartarama.com/shop/ProductDetail.asp?Product_ID=0059582000000

bnoonan
01-06-2003, 11:43 AM
Is this the point in the thread where I tell you all that I've been working my best at getting looser and not so tight in detail? Gaka - though I truly marvel at your technique and work, I'm going to try and go the opposite direction.


Barb

Luvy
01-06-2003, 12:20 PM
I was at the art store and asked for these blender shapers and this is all they had. I think they cost me under $15.00 for a pack with various shapes. I've used 2 of them They are made of like a rubber tip, and pretty flexible On them says Colour Shaper made in the UK

meowmeow
01-06-2003, 01:01 PM
I just got mine from Dakota! Yay!
I did look around the internet to see if there were clay shapers for less. Apparently they have been reading this thread and got smart because even the clay shapers anyone has are now about $25-$30 a set! Oh well!
I am looking forward to trying mine.
I also got the sample paper pack from Dakota....I wanted to try some of these other papers. I'll report. :D

Sandy

Laura Morena
01-14-2003, 01:02 PM
I would like to hear from all the people that bought the sampler packs of the shapers as to which ones they find most useful. That would be helpful for those of us that might end up having to buy them individually. (You can use these for oils paintings?! I might have to try that!) Laura

Redsy333
01-14-2003, 01:12 PM
Welcome Laura:D
Sorry to say, but I use all of mine! I would suggest getting a set, and I think that most come that way. Money wise it generally ends up cheaper in the long run.
You will find everyone will give you a varied answer , because they are all so versitile in their styles. :)
I read in another thread where you asked for good supply stores, and I am working on some links. I asked that at one time as well and recieved no replies:D lol so dont feel bad, there are heaps of places to look. I find the Jerrys Artarama is often the cheapest , but that varies from time to time. DickBlick has a Stock up sale going on right now as well, and Dakota Pastels has monthly sales that you can check out.

Jerrys Artarama (http://www.jerrysartarama.com/)

Dakota Art supply (http://dakotapastels.com/)

hope that helps some!

Zarathustra
01-23-2003, 06:27 AM
In a bid to cut costs I filed down my little finger to a fine point...

Seriously, I bought one of those little pastel blenders recently, I've only used it once so far and would be interested to know how you clean the things!

Laura Morena
01-23-2003, 10:36 AM
OK, I found an art supply near me that carried some of the "sculpture tools"...they only had black rubber tipped ones (no gray) and they were all sold individually for about $9 each!!! I only bought one since they didn't have any sampler packs and tried it as soon as I got home. It is leaving little black smudgies on my art work. Maybe because they are new? :confused: ...or maybe because the gray is the right choice? I'm glad I didn't buy a whole package of them. (To answer the last post...I just cleaned it off with a paper towel and it looks pretty clean. Soap & water would probably work as well.) I can always use it for sculpting, I guess...since that is what it was intended for in the first place!:D

Artistammy
01-23-2003, 12:15 PM
Misterart.com is also a good place for supplies.

DragonladyfromOz
05-06-2003, 08:10 AM
Okay, this is the Australian saga side of the story...
I have used the IVORY colour shapers with my pastels for years - when I can find them in my box of tricks :rolleyes:- and have discovered that I have just about worn the littlest one down to a stump! So I toddled off to get some more from the art shop I originally got them from, which is consequently where I now work. Guess what - we don't get them anymore!!! Soooo, I zapped around the internet and found the same website that Gaka gave http://www.colourshaper.com/ , and tried for MONTHS to get an email back...no joy.
I tried again this Sunday and got a reply on Monday - yeeehaaa - they distribute them in Australia through Art Stretchers in Victoria which turns out to be an Art Spectrum supplier. They told me that I can get them [in Western Australia] ...get this ... through my own shop!
So, I ring up the ordering department [chain of shops] and ask them about getting some in, their response was that they can only get them in in sets and they don't particularly like getting them in as people don't use them!!! So you can imagine my response to that!
Finally, I rang a friend in another town who works for the same art store chain as me, and who was the last shop to get them in, and she faxed me the entire list of shaper tools - 6 pages of info. As an aside, the stock she had ordered in is all gone ... in TWO WEEKS ... but of course, 'no-one' must have come in and got them all, so I couldn't get any!
So if anyone in Western Australia wants them I can wheedle and wrangle to get some. They start from approx. $2.35 and go up to approx.$ $19.00 - AUS dollars. The types are: ivory - for chalk pastel and graphite; grey - for acrylic, oils, oil pastels etc.; wides [grey & black] - for spreading adhesive, acrylics/oils etc., and doing decorative 'stuff' and anything which requires a stiff applicator; and then the black tips - used as clay sculpting tools.
There is also a variety of different styles, cup, chisel, rounded/curved, taper etc.
So, seeing as no-one uses them :mad: if the 'no-ones' who wish to use them want to email me, I am quite willing to get them in and post them off.
Cheers all
Manda

jackiesimmonds
05-06-2003, 10:11 AM
ye gods, Lulu, you musthave the patience of a saint to have typed in all that lot.

I am blown away.

Doogun
05-06-2003, 12:28 PM
I bought two shapers from an art supply store in Pensacola. They are as follows:
#6 Flat Chisel ( soft ) - Royal Sovereign Ltd. UK
#6 Taper Point (soft) - Forsline & Starr England
The color of mine is white. Hard to clean!
Larry

pampe
05-06-2003, 10:16 PM
I have a set from ASWEXPRESS.COM...was about $15.00US

I wish one of you experts would do a WIP using them.....I have only used them for blending..and wonder how you use them to "clean udges", etc????

artbabe21
05-07-2003, 02:15 AM
Redsy...thanks for this thread, I have some that I have used for oils and thrilled to know>>>***BOINK< BOINK< BOINK***<<<
that they could be used for pastels!I wasn't even remembering that I had them....got them cheap at a Hobby Lobby craft/art store in Denver........ Very cool........:D

Gavin....just rinse them off in water...:)

Lulu
05-07-2003, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by jackiesimmonds
ye gods, Lulu, you musthave the patience of a saint to have typed in all that lot.

I am blown away.

Don't need patience when you can copy and paste Jackie:D

Howard Metzenberg
05-16-2003, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Redsy333

They are labled as Clay shapers!!
They were very CHEAP tooooooo:D:D:D

so in case YOU are looking to try them, look in your art supplier/crafts for CLAY SHAPERS!!!!

Cheerssssssss

Actually, the products you refer to are called Colour Shapers. Here's a link to them at Dick Blick.

http://www.dickblick.com/vendors/colourshapers/

Note the British/Canadian spelling of the company's name, if you are searching for them on-line.

They are made in a variety of hardnesses for different mediums, and not just for clay.

Here's a set that we have that combines a shaper tool with some other blending tools.

Pastel Blending Set
http://www.dickblick.com/zz069/27/

Howard Metzenberg
Dick Blick Art Materials

Redsy333
05-16-2003, 09:28 PM
NO NO NO....:D:D:D
See how ya are Howard...ya sneak in here when im gone..lol
Acrually yes i did buy mine at Dick blicks....but no..mine were labled as clay shapers!!! And if you walk thru the store...dats where they are!!:D In with all the clay stuff!:D
But thanks heaps...cause there are the color shapers too...just more expensive;)

christmascarolnz
05-16-2003, 11:22 PM
Lulu - where did you buy your ones from - Jos's?
I use three of the colour shapers, and paid quite a bit for them. I prefer the light grey ones to the white ones, as they do wear a bit.
Arts & Frames, Te Rapa, have them for a couple of $ less.
I reckon these tools are invaluable to a pastellist.
Carol