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kemshmi
03-03-2000, 05:20 PM
here is the link to the new painting..in blue.. and now the one in "flesh"
..it is in a flesh tone and has a metalic helmit..

the last pic is in http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif..the helmet (and garment pins)which I painted in a metalic oil, gold/bronze, (with burnt umber and sienna for shading).. scanned as an orange red..
all three are oil on canvas 9"x11"
http://community.myway.com/servlet/pd_ProcServ/DBPAGE=cge&GID=011890104609525537654313 46 (http://community.myway.com/servlet/pd_ProcServ/DBPAGE=cge&GID=01189010460952553765431346)


the above URL has larger versions of each of these..

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/AthenaBlue.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/athenaflesh.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/Athenanew.jpg

comments welcome
thanks,
Kemshmi


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Bruce Rohrlach
03-03-2000, 08:10 PM
Kem - these are great - specifically the green/orange version! Re-this version, the first thing that struck me was the sweeping loose strokes you used (I guess this is what people call the "painterly effect"? where the brushwork is very visual). And the second thing I noticed after reading one of J.Hagan's lessons in WetCanvas ( http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/Hagan/texture.htm )
was your repetition of shapes, in this case the cusp-like curves throughout your painting and at all scales that creates a sort of "resonating pattern" (don't know if that's the correct description) but it seems to be a very powerful effect to me.

I'm fascinated how you bring out a "likeness" with such broad loose strokes!

The blue version is not as appealing to me - whether it's the monotone use of colour and/or the slight loss of accuracy in the facial features assuming the original is your post on the bottom. Green version is great Kem, wish it was on a larger canvas http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif


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robinsn
03-03-2000, 11:52 PM
Good work, kem. I like your style. Both of these are really nice, but I like the blue one better. Not sure why. The only thing that bothers me about it is the eye. It's the wrong perspective and though that might be the style, my eye keeps going back to it and bothered by it.

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oleCC
03-08-2000, 09:23 PM
I guess I like the blue best, although I do think your eye treatment on the green/gold
one is great! All of them are really good!

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kemshmi
03-12-2000, 08:45 PM
Are these too difficult to comment on??..constructive input please http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Kemshmi
(an example of using someone elses photo for a "study")..thanks

cagathoc
03-13-2000, 06:52 AM
Kemshmi,

I didn't see the original photo but... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

*** Green Version
=> the hole in the helmet looks like an eye (the modeling around the hole gives the impression of an eyelid)
=> the helmet isn't as rounded out as the rest of the picture (the face and neck look more 3D)
=> brushwork and color use are strong; I like it here
=> overall impression is strong

*** Blue Version
=> smoother brushwork (blended strokes) give the work and overall softer impression
=> nice how the helmet loses its edge at the back where it's black
=> use of color more restrained here almost monochromatic study in value in blue

*** Flesh Version
=> Ah, now I can see the structure of the helmet very well
=> nice contrast of colors (gold & purple)
=> more realistic looking; loses some strength and sense of sculpture here

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I prefer the green version because it looks the most sculptural and has the most interesting color play and brushwork. I'd like to see the helmet more defined in this painting though...

Cool paintings!


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Cindy Agathocleous

"What if imagination and art are not, as many of us might think, the frosting on life, but the fountainhead of human experience?" - Rollo May from The Courage to Create



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Phyllis Rennie
03-13-2000, 08:39 PM
K......maybe it's something I'm doing....but I can't see the whole piece at once. Clicking back and forth between the three would be ok but I would like to be able to see a complete image before I attempt to comment. Brushwork looks pretty exciting. Phyl.

Phyllis Rennie
03-21-2000, 08:36 PM
Where'd they go? I wanted to look again! Phyl

paintfool
03-22-2000, 12:49 AM
kemshmi i couldn't get to the image. says server not found or that the server doesn't want me to be there! did ya block me Kemshmi? sniff.... cheryl P>S> i'll keep trying

cagathoc
03-24-2000, 10:03 AM
Kemshmi ??? Hello???

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Cindy Agathocleous

"What if imagination and art are not, as many of us might think, the frosting on life, but the fountainhead of human experience?" - Rollo May from The Courage to Create

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kemshmi
03-24-2000, 03:01 PM
Thanks Everyone.. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
I fixed the link to the "larger" versions..and also resized them so they could be displayed here..

Kemshmi

kemshmi
03-24-2000, 03:02 PM
Cindy Agathocleous..Hello http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

Phyllis Rennie
03-25-2000, 08:16 PM
K......good job. I have to ask...why did you decide to do 3 versions? I like the "flesh" the best even though the green has more dramatic brushwork--which I like. It is more decisive--like you put it down and didn't mess with it. The strokes in the flesh one look more tentative but only because we have the others to compare it to. By itself, the brushwork looks strong enough. The only thing I might suggest is making the hair (in the flesh one) a little more different in color from the helmet. I also like the way you filled the canvas--adds to the boldness of the piece. Phyl

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amanda
03-27-2000, 10:43 AM
I really like the blue one but the green one really changes the mood. It's amazing how colour changes mood so dramatically!

kemshmi
03-27-2000, 01:12 PM
Phyllis..good question..I have just reciently picked up oil paints after many years of working in watercolors and also ink..sooooo..feeling almost new to oil paints I really wanted to just get going..the green one was first, and I had so much fun I decided to do another..then another..
each version had its' own challenges to deal with, as well as just getting the feel of the medium..for example on the blue version which is just blue black and white..it was a task to not make grey with the black and white as I went..
I really want(ed) to get warmed up and get "good" at oils..I have done one landscape since these and just begun another which is more of a "fantasy" theme..of a mermaid and a fish..

thanks for your comments everyone
Kemshmi