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RyderArt
03-07-2000, 02:31 AM
Hi,
Told y'all you were gonna get sick of me.....
This is the first of the different subjects that I need some input on.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/birds.jpg

This is an oil 16 x 24".....I am not done yet. First one in 20 years!!! I still have the beaks and eye to do. So what could use more tweeking???
Look forward to the responses.

Stephanie

robinsn
03-07-2000, 09:03 AM
Cool perspective! Only problem is the depth. I had thought the top one was laying on the ground and I wondered if it was dying or what. I then couldn't quite figure out the bottom one, if it was laying on the ground or standing on the ground. Then I noticed the tree limb and it makes sense, but it still looks like they're on the ground. I think you need to put some distance between them and the ground. I'm not sure how. Maybe blurring it? Maybe putting recognizable objects down there? Maybe extending the branch out the top?


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pixelscapes
03-07-2000, 04:48 PM
I always approve of parrot paintings. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

I like this painting, the composition is very dynamic and the way their beaks are touching is very natural... The feathers seem soft and the colors are good.

... I have some wing questions though.
What's going on with that upper parrot's lower wing? It's like it's twisted around somehow, with the feathers trailing downwards? From the way the part nearest to the viewer looks, I might imagine that the wing is raised and that we should be seeing into the bird's 'armpit', but it doesn't seem that way. It also is the only wing in the picture with so many light blue feathers, plus those long red ones... or is it supposed to be a tail? Maybe I'm just not reading the painting right. Also, the other parrot seems to have a left wing and no right one (or it's clamped very close to the body?).

I'm not sure if I'm being clear in what I'm explaining... if you want I can do a quick sketch to show you what I'm referring to. Other than that confusion the painting is very vibrant and vivacious, and that's very fitting to the subject. I also like the way that the background is low on detail, and the variations in brightness seem to outline the birds without being too noticeable.

-=- Jen / Pixelscapes
http://www.pixelscapes.com

janet
03-07-2000, 10:52 PM
Love the brightbold colors on the parrots!
the only thing that I was trying to figure
out was is that the wing or the parrots
tail that came to a twist on the parrot
thats on the top? I like the way you
made the beaks touch. love the colors.

RyderArt
03-08-2000, 03:14 AM
Hi,
The reference photo that I used for the paintings was a bit blurred around the outer edges..due to the movement of the macaws. So I sorta had to "Wing" it...lol.
Taking a closer look...I do believe that is the tail flaired at the right. And the bottom parrot's right wing seems to be tucked...
I have always have trouble with backgrounds....and that is definitely my weakness....the subject is usually rendered decently...but the backgrounds alway suck!!! This one is better than most.....
I will see what I can sort out on this...Thanks for the input pix, rob and janet....look forward to more from anyone else who is willing to help out.
Stephanie

Urbanpoet
03-08-2000, 04:40 AM
Hi RyderArt

I am confused.
Iíve seen the same picture posted in http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000158.html

Under the name of Kelly aka Kiwi and said it is done in pastels

Is the picture got mixed up or kelly, Kiwi, Stephanie and Ryder Art are all the same personís name..

-Urbanpoet



[This message has been edited by Urbanpoet (edited March 08, 2000).]

Patti
03-08-2000, 09:19 AM
Yes, something is wrong here. Kiwi's posting had different images in it before, an owl in flight was one that I remember. Scott?...

RyderArt
03-08-2000, 09:32 AM
Wow...this is confusing..this is my painting....but don't know how it got linked into Kiwi's post....I just posted mine yesterday....figures..I can mess up anything...think mine had birds also in the upload!!

Stephanie

Gisela
03-08-2000, 11:58 AM
Kiwi's paintings were of an owl in flight and of seagulls. My guess is that her pic was also named birds.jpg. When you uploaded your pic, it simply replaced hers and now you are both linked to the same JPG file.

Scott, is there a warning for when someone is uploading a file with the same name as a previously uploaded file? I think this happened before when someone reworked a painting and then reposted it. The original was replaced, because the filename had not been changed. Maybe a warning thingie would prevent this from happening. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Gisela

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bruin70
03-09-2000, 01:11 AM
with all the nice, natural curves, i think the two heads form an unnatural corner angle....milt

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/birdsredo.jpg

bruin70
03-09-2000, 01:16 AM
gisela,,,that's why i tag my images, "*****.bitchin'redobythe1andonlybruin70A#1.jpg

Patti
03-09-2000, 09:16 AM
Bruin, you are too modest.... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

[This message has been edited by Patti (edited March 09, 2000).]

Gisela
03-09-2000, 11:26 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Yes Bruin, you sure are the one and only!! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Wouldn't want you any other way!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif
Gisela

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figgby
03-10-2000, 12:46 AM
Hi ry, I agree with bruin about the angle but my first reaction was to the background. I think it needs to be a bit lighter so the shadows work better in anchoring the birds in the picture.

Mich451
03-10-2000, 04:14 PM
I know what everyone is saying about the angle of the birds' heads, but when parrots feed one another, that is the position their heads must be in to pass seeds. Perhaps you could extend the bottom bird's left shoulder or wing out to the left a little to soften the angle.

Electra
03-10-2000, 04:55 PM
I agree with mich.. I love the colors.. vibrant and beautiful. And what a sweet pose... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

RyderArt
03-12-2000, 08:20 AM
Just a note of thanks for all the wonderful input on this painting.
I will sort through all the info and then figure out where to go from here.
Critique is certainly a great forum for us...asking and receiving constructive criticism is so helpful.
Thanks again...and will post once I have finished it.

Stephanie