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Electra
03-05-2000, 12:22 AM
OK, again, as in the last ashley thread... the scans don't pick up subtle shading. I tried every photoshop trick in the book and it doesn't seem to help. Soo.. I know that it is a bit on the stark side, but there are lighter values that you can't see.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/ashleysketch4.jpg

<a href="http://www.lamar.edu/test/jb/ashley.jpg" target="_blank">Original photo</a>

Thanks for your input!!!

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Electra
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Life is less about who you are, and more about who you choose to be.

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oleCC
03-05-2000, 12:26 AM
well, think you got it...head shape looks right as do the eye positions.....Good !!!
Watch out...next you will be sitting on sidewalks, taking orders LOL http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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CarlyHardy
03-05-2000, 12:35 AM
I think you're doing super!
and oleCC...I heard she already has a spot at the local skating rink!
carly

manlewis
03-05-2000, 01:15 AM
great job, much better! I think I will try the skating rink in my town!!

Paula

llis
03-05-2000, 02:09 AM
Really looks good. I know Ashley is proud. Now on to your next one. Lets see a self portrait. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

robinsn
03-05-2000, 03:00 AM
Wow! Much better job of getting the shapes right! Well done!

What are your scanner's setting when you try to scan it in?

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Gisela
03-05-2000, 03:10 AM
Looking good!!
The head shape is much better in this one and all the features look like they are well placed. You get an "Atta girl" for this one!!

Gisela

Bruce Rohrlach
03-05-2000, 03:35 AM
WOW Electra - getting better all the time!
She's a cutie. See how quickly you improve!! - just keep goin. Sometimes you can sence something is a little astray about some particular feature or other. When that happens -just study the image - put it down for a day and come back and try and isolate that tiny detail - or list them down in a short-list, then just "tweak them" one by one. The end stages of a portrait involves a lot of tiny tiny changes (shaving off a 1/2 millimetre here, adjusting the angle a half a degree there, getting the relative tones just right and with each miniscule amendment you make, the face will gradually converge closer and closer. You will probably be able to sence when enough-is-enough. Fun isn't it Electra.
As Drew said - it's addictive http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Your doing great!

Electra
03-05-2000, 05:28 AM
Boy Bruce, you said it! It's really fun. In fact, I just told hubby that tonight, those words exactly. It's like I suddenly found a new and killer toy to play with! What a vast world this opens up to me!

You're also right about the miniscule adjustments. This *is* just a sketch... but I'm dogging it to death. My poor cheap sketchpad paper is wearing out and I'm finding myself wishing (hard) that this "sketch" was already on the watercolor paper because i have a feeling that after finishing this one off so well.. I won't be able to do it again like a repeat. Maybe I'll stop after this sketch I'm posting now..

I have to give a very big thanks to Carol, for sending me a blown up 9x12 print of this photograph (which is the same size as my paper). The big difference between this one and the last one is that, in between, I traced the photo for practice, and found out a lot of things were very deceiving. By drawing their shapes in tracing, I could more readily see the true edges of things -- so when I drew it in freehand I had a better handle on it. It made a huge difference.

I also have to say that Randy helped me quite a bit with a technique that I hope he makes public very soon. I won't elaborate, because I can't yet, but a big thank you goes to Randy for that.

Milt's post on the last Ashley thread about turning it upside down is also helping me nail down some very picky details.

I've spent the last four hours doing some darkening and touch ups, and in person, the values look really nice. The scan, however is still a bit stark compared to the drawing in real life. (Randy, I have brightness and contrast for scanner program settings, and they help a little bit, but I toyed some more with Photoshop and hopefully this one came in better.)

Here's the last post for a while, probably. Thank you everyone for going through this adventure with me; your comments one last time are appreciated. Next one you see will be the final one, and it will probably be a week or two for that.

Oh yeah.. the scanner cropped off about 1/2 inch on the right hand side of this.. it doesn't really get cut off like that.

<a href="http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/ashleysketch5.jpg"> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/ashleysketch5sm.jpg
Click to enlarge</a>

Thanks again ;-)


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Electra
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Life is less about who you are, and more about who you choose to be.



[This message has been edited by Electra (edited March 05, 2000).]

bruin70
03-05-2000, 07:06 AM
much, much better. as i mentioned,,,it's cleaner. after your shading is done , the face will be fuller. sight sizing, btw, is a method of transfering proportions over from original to copy. in the old days, for instance, whistler would move his canvas next to the sitter's head, draw makeshift parallel lines between sitter and painting to get exact vertical proportions. i await the fini....milt

cagathoc
03-05-2000, 07:50 AM
Really nice, Electra. I especially like the mouth. It's very well done. It's hard to do an open mouth with the teeth showing and you've got it just right. congrats!

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Cindy Agathocleous

"What if imagination and art are not, as many of us might think, the frosting on life, but the fountainhead of human experience?" - Rollo May from The Courage to Create

RyderArt
03-05-2000, 09:37 AM
Way to go Electra!!!
The improvement is amazing!! I am impressed!
Keep up the good work. You are inspiring to do some portrait work...something I have always steered clear of.....sheer terror at the thought of doing a portrait!!!

Stephanie

robinsn
03-05-2000, 01:31 PM
Getting even better! Good job on the hair and mouth too. I've avoided poses with teeth showing and you've inspired me to give it a try!

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-Randy
My Art Gallery (http://www.artistnation.com/members/paris/randy/)

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dzspag
03-05-2000, 06:26 PM
Electra...nice job on Ashley. You really have captured the smile of a beautiful little girl. The second scan really shows the contrasts better..much more use of values than I originally thought...set up outside the skating rink.....the ballpark...and have a go. You've got the talent.

Mich451
03-06-2000, 12:53 AM
You can tell when love goes into a painting.

MALARKEY
03-06-2000, 09:43 PM
Ashley is a doll, and you've captured her joyfull expression wonderfully! Seems like just yesterday you were afraid of trying to draw a portrait... and look at you now!! I'm very impressed.

oleCC
03-08-2000, 12:50 AM
I knew you could I knew you could http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

(is this considered scam?) lol

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CarlyHardy
03-08-2000, 03:37 PM
Applause & all that good stuff!!!!
You have done such an incredible job...and the love is obviously showing..not just from your work but from Ashley too.
Carly

Adelphia
03-09-2000, 12:31 AM
What a beautiful little cherub you have there! Very Nice! I wish i had the right words to describe detail and technique but alas I am ignorant to that language as yet. Until I become a learned artisan I will post briefly and say things from my heart. Beautiful! Adel