View Full Version : some honest criticism please!

03-04-2000, 04:18 AM
this is my first picture in gouache, I'm asking for comments on it because my art teacher always says 'that's nice' no matter how bad something is.

03-04-2000, 05:48 AM
I like your composition, and you managed to get a feeling of very strong light hitting the apples; there is lots of burnout. I feel however that such strong light would also ahve other effects; such as darker shadows. The apples are all in midtone except for the highlights.
I hope that counts as some honest critique.

03-04-2000, 06:45 AM
Gouache...is not an easy medium to work in...being opaque and not translucent.....things have a tendency to look flat. I haven't used it much...because I can't seem to overcome that problem.
I agree with Henrik...more contrast in the shadows and background. Also try shading the apples on the edges....to give them more dimension (roundness)! Your tonal values are to even.
One of my watercolor teachers...aways wanted us to do quite dark backgrounds....so that the focal point kinda jumps out at you.
But very good work for your first try at the medium. Keep on working girl!!


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03-04-2000, 03:39 PM
I'd also like to comment on the shadows. Rather than actual shadows, it seem to appear more as an aura around the fruit. I would sharpen it up a bit. The stong light sourch would create more distinct shadows.



03-04-2000, 04:36 PM
shouldn't there be some cast shadow from the middle leaf on the back piece of fruit? I don't see any really dark areas. Only mid-tones and light.

03-04-2000, 07:32 PM
Gouache is the kind of medium that lends itself to sloshy bold renditions. Why not just "go ballistic" with it and concentrate only on form and structure instead of subtle shading? I hope you won't be hurt...but the composition cries out for resolution around the edges. Ask yourself...?where is this fruit placed (a table?, in a bowl?, in a basket?) And how does my subject relate to the edges of the rectangle ( eg.bring horazontal elements right out to the edge and the same for verticals. You know who is a good artist to look at for simple but bold backgrouns? Matisse..Like in "Portrait of Madame Matisse..(also called The Green Line)

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03-05-2000, 03:22 AM
Thank you all for your very useful comments,
having looked at the picture I have realised that it has lost a lot of colour and crispness in the uploading process ( I sent it as JPEG thinking it would be the best but the results are not good).
What is the best format to send in?

03-05-2000, 03:27 AM
jpg is the normal format used here. GIFs are used sometimes.

You can use too much compression with the jpg's and get a less quality image, but jpgs can take quite a bit of compression without losing much quality. Are you saying that this image in your software program looks a lot better than this one?

If you scan it in, and it looks good, then it should look the same here. How did you process the image before uploading it?

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03-05-2000, 01:12 PM
I scanned it as a bmp originally and it looked great but when I saved it as jpg I didn't check it, I just uploaded it and it's lost quality. I'm not very up on this yet so its probably something I did wrong.

03-05-2000, 01:24 PM
Interesting. If you load the jpg file now, what does it look like?

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03-06-2000, 03:07 AM
It looks wishy washy like it does here, I'll rescan it and have a play around with it to try to find the reason for future reference.

03-06-2000, 02:52 PM
Kate,,, can only echo what the rest have said about shadows. I can imagine many changes in value on the fruit and leaves. Scanning may have just "lost" all that for you - but if not, try it - you'll like it!