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kemshmi
02-27-2000, 04:56 PM
http://community.myway.com/servlet/pd_ProcServ/DBPAGE=cge&GID=010260104609490497433285 83 (http://community.myway.com/servlet/pd_ProcServ/DBPAGE=cge&GID=01026010460949049743328583) here is my new Athena painting..oil on canvas, 9"x12" ..I tried to use bold brush strokes..focusing on each one as I went, putting the correct color of choice where I wanted it as I went {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Milt}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} {hugs}..all of your input has been very helpful.. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif..miss you guyz

any comments welcome
thanks,
Kemshmi



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Phyllis Rennie
02-27-2000, 07:51 PM
Love that style, Kem. Don't loose it by reworking too much. Only thing I would suggest is maybe glaze over the brightest yellow on the hat to diminish it a bit so it doesn't detract from the face. Phyl.

bruin70
02-28-2000, 03:19 AM
kemi....let's start with the photo, and change THAT so you can see the difference. it is a high contrast pic that i darkened to show better. i flipped both the original and the redo. this way you see what i'm saying more clearly. the photo is monochromatic and shows dark shadows. just as dark as the background. what you get, therefore, is a simple hilite outline of the statue,,,because the shadow and background seem as one. if this is your aim, then you can paint as is. if, however, you wanted to show a full statue, then you'd have had to differentiate between the background and shadow.....as i did in the redo....i gave the background some warm. now the statue,as a whole object reads better. this would have changed your painting . since you copied the photo as is, the deep shadows in the face are the same as the background. so,,,you're getting the same results.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/athenapic.jpg

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bruin70
02-28-2000, 03:36 AM
,,,,and so, you would have had a painting like this,on the right,,,,

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/athenapntgredo2.jpg

personally, i would have changed the value of the shadows as well to make the statue more solid......milt

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kemshmi
02-28-2000, 06:55 AM
I have been painting all night http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif..and completed another one based on the same photo.. this time using blue, black and white..(oil on canvas, same size)
the whole look is almost the same, I added color to the face in the blue one, but kept the values the same in the toga and background..I will post in another week when it is dry enough to scan
Milt, I can see exactly what you are saying about the value/contrast between the statue and the background..if I do another one I will try to do it as more of a solid figure..(as per your sound advice here) by making the shadow areas within the statue a lighter value of the statue color, not so much black (what was the name of that tube color Scott??)

thanks,
Kemshmi

Drew Davis
02-28-2000, 10:47 PM
The yellows in the helmet seem to me to confuse the form somewhat, too light for their position.

I like the brushwork. I have a painting in mind in which I intend to try that sort of thing.

It also seems a bit disturbing, which somehow I like. The previous Athena was too pretty and appealing. She's the goddess of wisdom and reason, but she was also born adult and in full armor, goddess of war. No complacency, either way.

MichaelRH
03-02-2000, 03:11 PM
Hi Kem...how did it feel to paint this one?
A very bold painting, and I am guessing it felt good?? It is interesting how we can define shapes with paint..and how you have modeled the physical shapes of the helmet and face with brush strokes. For some reason I feel good when I look at it, hummmm....a dynamic approach. I like what you have attempted..strong.