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02-23-2000, 11:45 AM
Hey gang - here is one I did about a month or two ago. It's a backlit scene of a large tree, some water, etc. Typical landscape. This is a larger canvas, I think a 24 x 36 or something silly. You can see the larger, more detailed version in my gallery by clicking on the "www" icon below.

I'd love to hear your thoughts!



[This message has been edited by scottb (edited February 23, 2000).]

02-23-2000, 01:09 PM
Hi Scott! I really like this one, reminds me of a lake in the Adirondak Mts. I agree that the sky might be a little too blue however.
I posted a question in the forum regarding painting over dry paint a while back and this is what Drew Davis had to say
" If the old painting is dry and glossy and nonabsorbent (from a lot of damar underneath), then you might have some adhesion problems, no matter what you use on top. You might want to apply a little bit of retouch varnish to help match the old painting, too.

Some people warn against overpainting between after about a week (when the original paint loses its adhesion) and about three months (when it's more or less done drying and shrinking). Mayer seems sort of inconclusive on that one. (And if doesn't scare Mayer, it almost has to be safe"

02-23-2000, 02:17 PM
Scott, like your composition a lot!

Agree with Electra's suggestion. There is one tiny detail that pops out; the big tree has two dead(?) fork like branches sticking out (one left, one right). They look a bit like arms http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif. Johannes pointed out to me that dualism in art should be avoided as it is not really found in nature; maybe you want to change one of them so they look less like a matching pair.

I have painted over dry paintings a lot (so far no problem). You must make sure that the painting is clean though! Dust and dirt (especially greasy dirt) will ruin the next layer.

Bruce Rohrlach
02-23-2000, 06:33 PM
It's a beauty Scott !! Colours, composition is great.

In my opinion - leave the blue sky exactly as it is. The gradation in sky tone and that deep blue is just right (for this painting).

My only suggestion is that the water looks a little too (what's the word - stripey, strained, over-worked or maybe it's too blocky??). But then I'm not sure how to fix that - water is not one of my strong points.

02-23-2000, 07:06 PM
Scott: Bring the shadow of the tree on the right down into the water. You show that the sun is reflecting in the water...and show that the reflection is cut ...but maybe the reflection of both trees need to be a little more prounced. Don't know if you can do this now...usually it works best when the paint is wet and you can slide your brush through the water. But, I think this is a keeper, even without anything else.

02-23-2000, 07:50 PM
Scott, I looked at the larger one on your site...really nice! After seeing that version, I think all you need is a bit of the reflection of the tree on the right. You did a great job with the sky! Very luminous.



02-23-2000, 08:10 PM
I like this one a lot, scott. I agree with Henrik's comment about the forks. The colors work for me as they are.

To paint on a dry painting, first, with a clean brush, brush on a thin layer of linseed oil (with no color!) on the section you are going to rework. Wipe it off, and it will leave a very thin layer that makes working the new paint just as nice as if it were still wet.

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02-23-2000, 11:05 PM
Excellent comments and suggestions, all! How in the world did I forget to bring the shadow of the other tree into the water? Doh!

If I find the time, perhaps I'll rework this one a bit - fix the overworked (and crooked) water, shadow, etc. Then I'll repost... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


02-24-2000, 12:05 AM
Looks real nice scott! Only two things I would change - maybe to tone the blue of the sky down just a bit.. it looks too blue to me. Maybe a suggestion of some flowers or a variation in greens and browns in the grass.

Otherwise, a very nice landscape. I like the big heavy tree and particularly the yellowish clouds.. looks like a comfortable day.

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02-24-2000, 12:27 AM
Excellent suggestions, Janet! Will see what I can do. This canvas is totally dry, and I've never reworked a totally dry canvas. Anything I should be aware of?