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robinsn
02-16-2000, 09:45 PM
This is a pencil portait of my daughter, Amber. I am very pleased with the likeness and those who know her say that I captured it. However, as I learn more about art, I am thinking this is a 'likeness' but maybe not a finished 'portrait.' I am learning more about negative space, which I've pretty much ignored until recently. To make this a finished portrait, do I need to put in a background? Does it need other things to make it 'finished'? Great ideas abound in this forum, and I was hoping to get some good ideas on what to do with it. This is 11x14 pencil.

http://www.artistnation.com/members/paris/randy/images/art/yngamber.jpg

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-Randy
My Art Gallery (http://www.artistnation.com/members/paris/randy/)


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BillieD
02-16-2000, 11:54 PM
I think background is a matter of choice... and often less is more. I think any action in the background would distract from the charming, contemplative mood. Your daughter is a lovely young lady, BTW.

You have rendered the face and hair beautifully. If, I were to attempt to add anything in the background, my biggest fear would be that it would alter the value scheme, making it necessary to change the values of the present rendering, causing it to become harsh. Maybe, someone who is more adept at portraits could enlighten us, both, as how to avoid that problem.

I love it, as is. Love to see more.

Sincerely, Billie Dawn

bruin70
02-17-2000, 02:33 AM
randy,,,close the book on this baby....it's done. you will learn, eventually , not to have to draw every strand of hair, but don't worry,,,it seems to work here.hair follows her facial contour a bit too much. maybe a teeny inference of pattern on the blouse to give it a detail of reality. but that's up to you..milt

henrik
02-17-2000, 07:59 AM
Love it - keep it as it is.

Patti
02-17-2000, 10:29 AM
Randy, this is so beautiful. What a sweet portrait to have for her when she gets older.
You did a wonderful job!
Pat

irene clark
02-17-2000, 11:31 AM
Hi there,
The only thing that could possibly enhance this portrait is a halo.
What a perfect little angel she is.
Love the way you did the hair, not just the sheen, but the way it frames her perfect little cherubic face.
Beautifully done. Congrats!
You've just inspired me to look up some photos of my eldest daughter, who has similar features, at least 20 yrs ago she did. I haven't done a pencil drawing in ever so long. It was the first medium I tried about 4yrs ago.
Anyways, thanks for sharing.
sincerely
Irene Clark with a heart for art.



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llis
02-17-2000, 11:52 AM
Frame it Randy. This is done just as it is. In my opinion, anything you add at this point would not add but take away. Frame it before you touch it again! If you want to try anything else...do another one. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif I love this drawing.

Rod
02-17-2000, 01:51 PM
Just beautiful Randy, frame it well , for eternity,
Rod

CarlyHardy
02-17-2000, 05:20 PM
Definitely Frame It! What a beautiful drawing! chclements

Mich451
02-17-2000, 07:22 PM
Don't even be tempted to add a single mark. Put it under glass immediately!

Bruce Rohrlach
02-17-2000, 07:56 PM
Randy - Just AMAZING !!!

Randy - can you tell me a few lines about pencils - types, brands, materials that you use, type of paper. Think I'll wander down to an art-shop today and inquire - I'm inspired ! Keep it up. May also look for a basic book detailing technique. Is your drawing "self-taught" or did you get hints from a book on technique?

Gisela
02-19-2000, 01:26 AM
Wow, Randy!
Put a mat and frame on this one and call her done. You did a beautiful job of capturing a moment. Just lovely!
Gisela

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robinsn
02-20-2000, 08:41 PM
Thank you everyone for your comments! You have definitely twisted my arm - I'm not touching it! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Bruce - My favorite drawing tool and what I used exclusively for this portrait is a Pentel 0.3mm mechanical pencil with HB lead. And a kneaded eraser. Except for sketches, I always use smooth-finish paper (the smoothest I can find) but this particular portrait was done on smooth paper that is very old and full of acid and not available anymore (11x14 pine tree bristol board). I had it sprayed to neutralize the acid. I learned my drawing techniques from Leonardo (like the mirror technique) and one great art lesson I had a couple years ago which taught me a couple things I haven't seen in books, and some I guess I picked up here and there. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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-Randy
My Art Gallery (http://www.artistnation.com/members/paris/randy/)


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dan
02-21-2000, 01:23 AM
Randy what a cutie. I agree with the general consensus, as you can tell. In studying the picture I was wondering, for future reference, what would happen if you darkened the background around the hair. If done right it would cause lost edges, then darken the background behind her shoulder on the left, keeping it the same value as the shoulder. there by drawing the left shoulder back and giving more of a feeling of perspective. you could even darken around the right shoulder and cause it to move forward some. I like your picture. do not change it and feel free to ignore this comment.

oleCC
02-21-2000, 10:21 PM
Randy......I agree with B about the dress, but anymore would be a definite "over kill"
This is truly beautiful..what a treasure.

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