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seaking
02-08-2000, 04:32 AM
Hello all, I am hoping to find some direction before I cement bad technique into my head. I have been sketching for a couple months but only from pictures and photographs. Four to date. I would love some feedback on what I can do to get away from copying and go onto "seeing". I really don't know what I am doing so any help will be more than appreciated. I have sent along my latest attempt in hopes that i can progress in the right direction. Thank you,
http:/www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/adel/yourout.jpg
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adelphi
PAttiblack was able to post this for me.
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henrik
02-08-2000, 05:20 AM
Dear seeking,
just a word of encouragement; what at the start seems like some magical ability to "see" things rather than copy them is not magical at all. Really, this ability will grow within you with every little thing you learn. To "see" you must simply know what to look for.

Try the lessons here at Wet Canvas; with each lesson you will learn how to look for many new things.

Good luck.

seaking
02-08-2000, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by henrik:
Dear seeking,
just a word of encouragement; what at the start seems like some magical ability to "see" things rather than copy them is not magical at all. Really, this ability will grow within you with every little thing you learn. To "see" you must simply know what to look for.

Try the lessons here at Wet Canvas; with each lesson you will learn how to look for many new things.

Good luck.

Thank you Henrik. Seaking

Sandi
02-08-2000, 04:53 PM
Hi Adel, yes, cover your drawing paper, until you no longer feel the need to 'cheat' by looking. If your drawing comes out looking like a drawing...shame on you!! You must have looked. Focus all your attention on the object at hand, whether a photo or a real life object. Not from your head. Real life objects are the best! From real life you learn how to go around, up, over, under, bumpy, smooth, slippery, down, ...in essence, you begin to see by feel. Your eye becomes your hand, your hand becomes your pencil/charcoal, you become one with the object. Go slow as an ant tredging up the hills, practically falling over backwards on your travel. When you literally become exhausted...you done it! Another good exercise: GESTURES. with your entire arm, not just your hand and wrist, but with your entire body, draw fast, simplify the object, capture the abstract shape, the action, (tv is great for gestures). Hope this helps. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif opps, sorry i repeat. Guess I want to stress the importance of BEING that ant. Come back and check often, I'm sure Rod or Randy or Bruin or Willam will help you with your images loading.

Phyllis Rennie
02-08-2000, 08:06 PM
Practice, practice, practice!!! Don't expect too much from yourself too soon. Artistic improvement usually comes in steps and plateaus not in a steady incline. And a lot of the things you read in books and lessons will make no sense in the beginning but, after a few months of practice, will suddenly "click".

kemshmi
02-08-2000, 08:58 PM
http:/www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/yourout.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/yourout.jpg



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seaking
02-08-2000, 09:07 PM
Thank you ! Pattiblack was able to post it aswell. Scott said it was too big to post so i reduces it now i think it is too small to see anything. Any ideas on how to hit a happy medium here? no pun intended ;-)
Thanks Kemshie.


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Rod
02-08-2000, 10:06 PM
woops, will redo

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Rod
02-08-2000, 10:06 PM
Hi Adelphi,
Don't give up on your posting of sketches ,we want to see more.
You uploaded image to critique center ok.
The html line was wrong, missed one forward slash after http:/ should be http:// also all images are filed under /users therefore no need to put your name, just change filename to your image details. ie: like this
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/yourout.jpg
But leave no spaces after file name. Had to for example so it did not action.
Rod

Rod
02-08-2000, 11:05 PM
Hi ,
Image size, use your image sofware and try for approx 200pixels by 300 pixels and save as jpg. That will be ideal size and not take too many Kilo bytes,
Look forward to your next posting,
Rod http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/cool.gif

Sandi
02-09-2000, 12:19 AM
Henri's statement is so true. There are some wonderful books out, to help you get there faster. One of which is: "Drawing on the Left Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards. Until you have that book, a few things you can do to excercise your "seeing", are: NEGATIVE SPACES. Instead of drawing the obvious object, draw what you don't see..the space's in between the chair rungs, instead of the rungs...for instance. ANT'S EYE: taking an object like cloth, or wadded sack, pretend you are an itsy bitsy ant, slowly crawling across the terrain. Never take your eyes off the object. Cover your hand and paper with a cloth, to keep yourself from looking at your drawing. Don't judge your outcome. It's the exercise, not the finished drawing that matters. This is also known as BLIND CONTOUR, when you never look at your paper. These should keep you busy. Hope this helps.

seaking
02-09-2000, 12:43 AM
Thank you Sandi, I have given up on trying to get my drawings posted (all 4 of them) and am on to other areas in this and other online classrooms. When I am drawing "Blind Contour" as you say.. am I looking at the picture I am copying while my hands and paper are covered or am I drawing what I see(not)in my head? Thanks again for the help I have gotten from you here at Wetcanvas.
Adelphia