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Electra
01-27-2000, 02:14 AM
OK, since the last willow came across too dark, here's the second take on the same painting. A friend of mine saw it and wanted me to make the suggested changes and give it to her, so I did. However, for the birthday present for my sister, I'm going to re-do the willow tree, probably with a little different composition.

Tell me what you think of this one! Thanks!
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Janet
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Life is less about who you are, and more about who you choose to be.

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bruin70
01-27-2000, 04:36 AM
i think you can see the difference. the trees in the background seem tobe rendered oddly. i can't tell cuz there's no closeup.maybe the leaves look too light, too evenly rendered all over(leaves tend to pop in and out of the shadows),,,they look like buds or something. the sky seems a bit dark but not enough to warrant you changing anything.
you should try being more discressionary about how much detail you put into the willow . right now you're rendering everything equally.. and we talked about the scale before,.......milt

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irene clark
01-27-2000, 09:34 AM
Hi Electra,
Even though I like dark paintings, this one is definitely a big improvement.
I agree with Milt about the overall sameness of leaves. Perhaps adding more shades of green,yellows,browns and also creating more varied shapes of the leaves. Some sky holes through the foliage would add depth and light allowing for more shadows.The scene as a whole is very lonely. Is that what you were going for? If not, then maybe add some birds. My minds eye sees a pretty calico cat stalking thru the long grass. Anyways, hope this is of some help.
sincerely
Irene Clark with a heart for art.

Electra
01-27-2000, 10:00 AM
You're right about the sky holes. In the next one I'll paint in the sky first. I had to re-do the trees in the background because I had to go back and paint sky.

The different shades of the foliage in the background are hard to see in the scan. There are three shades, but I think I got a little too light and made them more dominant in the painting than I wanted. I probably should not have been so systematic with the highlights, either, because it makes them look fake. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

I think the branches on the willow look more like corn-rows now than I had thought last night. There actually are eight or ten different variations of the green in the willow -- some with a brown tinge, some with a yellow tinge, some with a white tinge, etc...

The sky is actually gradiated but I covered it up with the foliage at the top ;( I'll plan better next time.

It is intended to be sort of a lonely painting -- the tree symbolizes strength in self to the person for whom it's intended.

I liked Bruin's suggestion in the chat room that I should probably not focus so closely on the willow, but make it a smaller part of a larger scene, so we'll take another shot at a different composition next time around.

Thanks everyone for your help in this painting. I've learned so much since I started painting two weeks ago!!

Janet

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Jason Conway
01-31-2000, 09:14 AM
Why don't you try taking the focus off of the tree and create a "scene". I think landscapes should take people somewhere. I remember having a big weeping willow in my front yard as a boy. Try making this a playful and happy scene. I tried a crude modification, which I think it adds a little more character to this piece.

I just now read the article before this one. If the tree is to symbolize strength... I think the large trunk helps with this. The root "IS" the strength of your tree. If this strength was not there.. no one would play on it or get on the swing....

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/willow3web.jpg


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henrik
01-31-2000, 03:40 PM
Electra, I think you should stick with the lonely theme. The tree is lonely and is "weeping" - the question I ask is; why?

Could you add something forgotten in the grass to suggest something that happened and that the tree is longing for to happen again; a lost toy (playing children), a hat (with grass growing through it), a garden chair not used in a long time, to mention a few (perhaps obvious and kitchy examples http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

Good luck with the next weeping willow.

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