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Jason Conway
01-23-2000, 10:35 PM
Here is another pencil drawing I did... tell me what you think.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/wolf.jpg

get a bigger version at http://www.lcs.net/users/jconway/big_wolf.jpg

Julia
01-24-2000, 03:51 PM
As the light goes from the left, the right side of the wolf should be slightly darker to make the whole drawing more impressing. The black holes of the ears seem dull, but in reality they have depth. They are dark in value at their core and go lighter as they reach the edge. I like the eyes, but as their value is very dark (and it makes them the strongest thing in the drawing), they should be balanced by the darks of the ear holes and more darks in the fur to show its depth, especially in the rights side. I like it, you should try human beings.

Electra
01-24-2000, 05:19 PM
Good job on the wolf! However, notice that the tiny reflections in the eyes would not be on opposite sides unless there were two light sources. If this was not your intention, then you should move one reflection to match where your lightsource would be coming from. Also, it is not clear what direction your light source is coming from -- work in the shadows as the above post mentions. Remember to have spots in the shadows that are absolutely black and some spots that are absolutely white, and at least three shades in between to give contour.

Very very good drawing though. Your ability to capture the feral qualities of this wolf is excellent.

robinsn
01-25-2000, 12:41 AM
You've done a good job of drawing the wolf, and technically, each element is good. But overall, the wolf is too 'perfect'. All the fur lines up just right especially on the neck, the ears are perfectly symetrical, the eyes mirror images of themselves, etc. Which could be good if you're going for a 'storybook' look, but for realistic, give it some fur going just a bit astray, one ear shaped slightly differently and in a different position, and some value changes as most of the piece is one value. Shine a spotlight on it and give it some good highlights and shadows and you'd have a great wolf - IMHO. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif


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Jason Conway
01-25-2000, 08:43 AM
Thank you you all for your wonderful comments and suggestions. I tried making the right side of the wolf (our right) darker, but it seemed to lose something. I have a problem with leaving out details. I am a perfectionist. If I see 6000 hairs on the model, I am going to try to reproduce, the best that I can, the appearance of 6000 hairs. Everyone always tells me about what I should do to make it better, but I draw what I see. I mainly wanted to focus on the eyes. If you will look at this not as an artist, but just stare at him for a minute. You might just see something you didn't before....

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Jason Conway
01-25-2000, 08:55 AM
feral (frl, fr-)
adj.

1.
a. Existing in a wild or untamed state.
b. Having returned to an untamed state
from domestication.
2. Of or suggestive of a wild animal;
savage: a feral grin.

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[From Latin fera, wild animal, from ferus, wild; see ghwer- in Indo-European Roots.]


Cool!

ps, the eyes and ears look mirrored because I got lazy. I drew the right side and carbon copied the left. From everyone's suggestions, I would end up with an image similar to this.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/wolf2.jpg

I think this loses my intent and the "feral" qualities.


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Electra
01-25-2000, 10:45 AM
I think you're right, the second drawing DOES lose some of its feral qualities. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

However -- I think it's a bit TOO dark on the right side, and you smoothed out some of the fur under the neck on the left side.

I know it's hard to go back and toy with something you already "finished" .. especially if you did a bit too much. Perhaps you want to try it again?

Don't sweat the time you have spent doing this first one -- you've learned from it, haven't you? And that's just as important.

I think you're very talented and have a lot of potential. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/wink.gif

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irene clark
01-25-2000, 10:54 AM
I know what you mean Jason. I have the same tendency to paint what I see and also try and get those 6000 hairs as you said, replecated exactly. I'm entrigued by eyes and was drawn to them immediately. Good job. I'll send along a drawing I have done of a coyote and you'll see what I mean about eyes and hair quality.
sincerely
Irene Clark with a heart for art.

robinsn
01-25-2000, 06:42 PM
I've been getting pounded over and over by the message that we, as artists, aren't photographers, and we don't need to paint what we see. Milt has been great in getting this message to me. Sometimes, reality isn't what would make the best piece of art. So we fudge a bit.

As you said, you copied one side to the other which I suspected as it makes the animal look storybook. It all depends on what you want to produce tho. If you want that look, you did great! If you want more of a portrait, it should be a bit different. If you want impressionism, you missed! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

The modified post isn't exactly what I meant. I'll play around with it and maybe post something to show what I meant.

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MALARKEY
01-25-2000, 07:00 PM
Squint and look through your eye lashes at your original wolf and the modified image. I think the modified image is what you are looking for. All it needs is your drawing talent put to use. Still love the eyes

robinsn
01-25-2000, 08:28 PM
Hope you don't mind me playing around with your art! http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

I won't comment on the artistic merit (or lack thereof http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif ) of my feeble attempt, but I hope it at least shows what I meant about non-symetrical and highlights and shadows.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/User/wolf1ex.jpg
The ears and eyes are now different and there is more value changes which adds a little depth. As you make things darker, they usually recede and white, comes forward, so around the edges and in the ears, I darkened it.

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henrik
01-27-2000, 08:39 AM
Thats more feral for sure!