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Wolfhound
03-17-2001, 03:50 PM
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This is an andalucian stallion done in coloured pencil from a photo. All comments welcome. Are there many coloured pencil fans out there?

dduchene
03-17-2001, 06:40 PM
This is beautiful wolfhound..I am a big fan of colored pencil...havn't used it in years but have a new set of prismacolours just aching to be used. What you have done here is very inspiring as I have a horse subject coming up..I will give it a shot in CP now.
great work!

Darrell

Barbara
03-17-2001, 08:02 PM
Wolfhound -- beautiful! Rich color I love it.
Barb

Roan
03-17-2001, 11:22 PM
Wolfhound,

Love your use of color! Beautiful! Is there any way you can post your reference photo? There's something about this Andalusian's nose that seems "off". The area from the cheek down to the muzzle doesn't seem to mesh with the rest of his head.

It could be nothing! Dunno. I've not been really heavy into this breed so I can't put my finger on what exactly seems strange -- it just doesn't look like an Andalusian to me.

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Barbara
03-18-2001, 09:04 AM
Roan:
I thought something was a little different about the head too. I think it may be a bit long between the jaw and the muzzle. and the jaw isnt quite complete? Dont know how to explain that.
But the whole feeling of this one made up for that for me. The color, that flaring nostril and the windblown effect.
Barb

animal
03-18-2001, 01:05 PM
Wolfhound,
This is Great! I especialy like the colours you have used and how you have used the pencil. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Wolfhound
03-19-2001, 12:05 AM
Thank you for your comments all. roan and barbara are both right the length of the lower face is not right and has irritated me since i finished it but i couldn't put my finger on what it was. Probably because its facing the "wrong" way for me - I like to draw animals facing the other way. Also as a copy from a photo (a 2 page spread in a horse magazine so I can't post it) I never saw the real horse so can't say how accurate it is. I will post some other recent work of horses i know. I think you may see an improvement.

wendee
03-19-2001, 12:30 AM
welcome..... i agree with barbra... the face is too long...other wise i think its great..... http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif wendee

sherville
03-19-2001, 05:57 AM
Hi wolfhound and welcome to wetcanvas.
I am a big fan of coloured pencil - I have been trying to teach myself the art of coloured pencil and you have inspired me!
I was wondering, what paper did you use as my coloured pencil stuff comes out looking grainy?

Roan
03-19-2001, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Barbara:
Roan:
I thought something was a little different about the head too. I think it may be a bit long between the jaw and the muzzle. and the jaw isnt quite complete? Dont know how to explain that.
But the whole feeling of this one made up for that for me. The color, that flaring nostril and the windblown effect.
Barb

I agree, Barbara! The face may be too long but the overall look is wonderful!

I've done a couple of Andies and am currently working on a Fresian -- though I'm not sure where I want to take this fella.

I'll post it in another message and let everyone have a "get go" at it :P

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<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Cuir a-mach an Sasannach, thoir a-staigh an c, 's tog an teine gu math . .. bidh oidhche fhuar ann a-nochd.</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">Put out the Englisman, bring in the dog, and stoke the fire well . . . it will be a cold night tonight.</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;--- supply resources for pastelists!

Roan
03-19-2001, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Wolfhound:
. . . Probably because its facing the "wrong" way for me - I like to draw animals facing the other way. Also as a copy from a photo (a 2 page spread in a horse magazine so I can't post it) I never saw the real horse so can't say how accurate it is.

Wolfhound,
Oh, do I know what you mean! I used to draw ALL my horses facing to the left. Everytime I tried to draw one facing right, I mungled it http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

It's easy for you to check your horse against the magazine spread -- just use a ruler.

If something is off, I use percentages to calculate mine. For example: if the reference head is 2.5 inches from the poll to the end of the upper lip, and the bridge of the nose is 1 inch long from the corner of the eye to the top of the nostril, then 1.5/2.5 = 45% of the total length of the head you have sketched must lie between the corner of the eye and the very bottom edge of the nostril.

So, if your drawing is 7.5 inches from poll to end of of the lip, then the area from the eye to the upper nostril has to be approximately 3.375 inches long.

I don't measure everything, just parts that seem way off :P

Hope this helps!

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<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">Cuir a-mach an Sasannach, thoir a-staigh an c, 's tog an teine gu math . .. bidh oidhche fhuar ann a-nochd.</FONT c>
-- <FONT size="1">Put out the Englisman, bring in the dog, and stoke the fire well . . . it will be a cold night tonight.</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) <--- supply resources for pastelists!

[This message has been edited by Roan (edited March 19, 2001).]

Wolfhound
03-22-2001, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by sherville:
I was wondering, what paper did you use as my coloured pencil stuff comes out looking grainy?[/B]

Sorry for not answering sooner - I'm still getting the hang of this bulletin board!
For this particular pic I used mounting board (Mat Board?)the stuff you use around your picture! I try to use the conservation quality type when I can. This gives a lovely smooth surface and you can use a lot of pressure if you want without the paper collapsing as I find alot of papers do. I also us Mi-Tientes (I think thats the spelling) as it has a less obvious and mechanical grain than ingres paper. i have also had some interesting results using watercolour paper underpainted with acrylic colour but need to do more work on this

EquineArtist
03-22-2001, 04:37 PM
Dear Wolfhound,

Your color pencil rendering of an Andalusian is of beautiful color. I use the medium myself and I think you have done exceptional use of the medium here.
Even though the horse itself is NOT hyper-realisitic, (meaning 100% photo-reproduced representation) it is STILL a lovely piece of equine art in my eyes. Being a "spanish horse" lover, I saw that your horse was of spanish shape right off at first view...
Keep up the great pencil work.
Sincerely,
A Fellow Prisma Pencil Equine Artist

EquineArtist
03-22-2001, 04:38 PM
Dear Wolfhound,

Your color pencil rendering of an Andalusian is of beautiful color. I use the medium myself and I think you have done exceptional use of the medium here.
Even though the horse itself is NOT hyper-realisitic, (meaning 100% photo-reproduced representation) it is STILL a lovely piece of equine art in my eyes. Being a "spanish horse" lover, I saw that your horse was of spanish shape right off at first view...
Keep up the great pencil work.
Sincerely,
A Fellow Prisma Pencil Equine Artist