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Gary B
03-21-2001, 08:02 AM
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Thought this might give you all a smile.

Gary
Seems this doen't work well in Netscape...fine in Internet Explorer.
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LarrySeiler
03-21-2001, 08:12 AM
Gary..on a serious note, I teach k-12 art, and maintain a busy artist's/musician's life as well. One class I teach is computer graphic arts as well. I don't really have experience using any animated software...but this appears to probably have been somewhat uncomplicated to do. Something perhaps my juniors and seniors would get a kick out of.

So...if you have a moment here, I'd like to have you give a brief explanation as to how you put this together! Thanks....

-Larry

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Gary B
03-21-2001, 08:33 AM
Sure Larry...

8 frames. I slowed it down so you could see.

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See next post

Gary

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Gary B
03-21-2001, 08:44 AM
I used Animation Maker for the animation gif. Download $20. HERE (http://vse-online.com/animation-maker/index.html) They have a free trial version so you can see if you like it. Big X through the amimations though.
I did the frames in PhotoShop (8...all the same size as in the slow example above). Save as Pict. Opened in AM and experimented with the timing.

Here's the AM control panel for the cat gif...
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Hope this helps...Great fun.

Gary

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Gary B
03-21-2001, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by lseiler:

maintain a busy artist's/musician's life as well.-Larry

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Me also. Larry...Bluegrass Banjo. <IMG SRC="http://www.radiks.net/~ghb/Jam.gif" border=0>


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LarrySeiler
03-21-2001, 10:01 AM
Very cool...will put that I my requisition list of must gets for next year!!!! Thanks!

I write and perform blues, blues folk, blues rock...coming out with a CD this summer, recording at our WC founder's this spring, I have four rough cuts off a 4 track as a taste at- http://www.scottburkett.com
go to "Music Update"

-Larry

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pgetha
03-21-2001, 10:34 AM
Hello Gary B and all. I work a lot with computer graphics outside of my painting. I was wondering what version of PhotoShop you are using. The reason, Starting with PhotoShop 5.5, a second program for preping images for the web called Image Ready was added. You can do animations in here and jump between the two programs. It is pretty slick. I did a "slide show" of my Equine Art for my website, but the potential is unlimited if you have the time to mess with it a bit. Let me see if I can get the image here. I have a smaller version that should download a bit faster....shoot. Isn't there a way I can pull an image from my system. I guess they don't want folks taking up server space. I'll pull the one from my home page but be warned it takes a while. Need to do something about that as people are not too patient. Sorry guys. Can't get it here so here is the link if you are interested. Getha Graphics (http://www.gethagraphics.com)

Roan
03-21-2001, 10:42 AM
<FONT size="6">DOH ME!</FONT s>

I upgraded my PhotoShop to 5.5 when it first came out, and I haven't even LOOKED at ImageReady. I thought it was just one of those silly web add-ons, you know the type :P

I use Alchemy Mindworks' GIF Construction Set for animation. Had it for years. I'm gonna have to load up ImageReady and check it out :P

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">"Bu shoilleir a dhreach, 's bu luath
Shiubhal: Sith-fada b'e ainm." --</FONT c>
<FONT size="1">"Shining his coat, and speedy
His pace -- Si-Fada his name."
Si-Fada = "long pace"</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;--- supply resources for pastelists!

Gary B
03-21-2001, 10:45 AM
Thanks pgetha...

I'll look into that. I think it's possible in any 5x version but haven't added to my PS knowledge lately. I just use it for my commercial stuff along with Quark.

Guess I'll go exploring in 6.

Gary


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Gary B
03-21-2001, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by pgetha:
shoot. Isn't there a way I can pull an image from my system. Graphics[/URL]

Find "Image Uploader" at top of this page and follow instructions. Then copy/paste it in your reply.



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pgetha
03-21-2001, 02:23 PM
Thanks, I did see that after the fact. The silly file is still 300k. Lots of frames in it. Keep meaning to redo with new work but haven't gotten around to it. So you use Quark too. Good for you. I am very familiar with both products and Illustrator also. Worked in prepress for many years and used to be a Litho stripper (just a lay term folks) I have a degree in Graphic Design and have worked actively in that profession in some form or another for 20 years. It is amazing how things have changed over the years.

pgetha
03-21-2001, 02:32 PM
Oh and Roan, definately check it out especially if you use PhotoShop's advanced features. That program can do so much but most people hardly scratch the surface. I am not well versed in Image Ready but have played around to see what it was capable. I don't know if people use the actions palette or not but it sure can automate a lot of steps. It is kind of cool to be3 able to record your actions and then apply to different images. One thing I have found to be invaluable is my Wacom Graphics tablet. Can't imagine drawing digitally with out it. Don't know how I ever drew with a mouse at all. lol!

Gary B
03-21-2001, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by pgetha:
So you use Quark too. Good for you. I am very familiar with both products and Illustrator also. Worked in prepress for many years and used to be a Litho stripper (just a lay term folks) I have a degree in Graphic Design and have worked actively in that profession in some form or another for 20 years. It is amazing how things have changed over the years.

Me too...Used to do stripping for rotogravure.First job in high school. And I still have my PMT camera...$8,000 new, worthless now. I still use it as an art tool. For example, I did this about 2 ft square to get the lettering perfect, then shot it down on the graphics camera and delivered it as the original...
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This does too qualify for this forum... Runzas have animals in them.


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pgetha
03-21-2001, 03:08 PM
Works for me! Question though, if you don't use the stat camera much, how do you keep your chemistry from going south? Seems those PMT chemicals didn't have much of a shelf life. I really miss working in that industry. I am a stay at home Mom now and started painting professionally in late 99. I love what I am doing and I have a full design studio at my finger tips, computer, scanner, laser printer, table, need a good color postscript printer now and I will be set. I even have a registerd business name, mostly for the paintings I am doing. Keeps it all legal but I really love layout and design too. I have done a considerable amount of work for church and school over the last year so people are finding out about me. Just have to increase marketing a bit. I have a surprise baby coming in June which will keep me busy for a while longer and then I am off to the races! Other possibilities are freelance positions with Hallmark who has their Corporate Operations and plant in Kansas City. The next few years could be quite interesting for sure.
It sure is Nice to talk to other artists who are diverse in their skills.

Pat

Gary B
03-21-2001, 08:26 PM
My son is an artist with Hallmark. Been there a long time. Small world.

And the PMT chemistry lasts a long time...When I shut down I just dump it into a hot water bottle to keep the air out.

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Roan
03-21-2001, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by pgetha:
. . . need a good color postscript printer now and I will be set

Pat, have you looked at the HP 4550? It's pretty inexpensive compared to others. Mine was $2000 and does 600dpi and postscript, though you should plunk down some extra dough for more mem for ps printing -- unless you want to sit there and twiddle your thumbs for a full page color spread :P

Dunno if that's enough DPI for you though. Just a thought!

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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">"Bu shoilleir a dhreach, 's bu luath
Shiubhal: Sith-fada b'e ainm." --</FONT c>
<FONT size="1">"Shining his coat, and speedy
His pace -- Si-Fada his name."
Si-Fada = "long pace"</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;--- supply resources for pastelists!

Roan
03-21-2001, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by pgetha:
Oh and Roan, definately check it out especially if you use PhotoShop's advanced features. That program can do so much but most people hardly scratch the surface.

Will do! I've been using it since 4.0 for web development and graphic design, though I can't say I'm as versed as it sounds like you are :P

. . .Wacom Graphics tablet. Can't imagine drawing digitally with out it. Don't know how I ever drew with a mouse at all. lol!

I have a Wacom in a box around here somewhere -- just couldn't get used to it and it has a serial connection. Ick. Now that I think of it, the darn thing has to be at least 3-4 years old. Have they changed much since then? USB capable? If I try using one again, I'd want one with a USB connector.



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<FONT face="Script MT Bold"><FONT COLOR="#AB4835"><FONT size="5">Roan</FONT s></FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="#8A1010">"Bu shoilleir a dhreach, 's bu luath
Shiubhal: Sith-fada b'e ainm." --</FONT c>
<FONT size="1">"Shining his coat, and speedy
His pace -- Si-Fada his name."
Si-Fada = "long pace"</FONT s>
RoanStudio.com (http://RoanStudio.com) &lt;--- supply resources for pastelists!

pgetha
03-21-2001, 10:56 PM
Roan, My tablet is at least that old and I don't have any trouble with it. If you are not keeping up with the pen, it is likely the amount of ram you have. PS likes tons of ram and will use it all. If you have 128 or less you should empty the history and clipboard to free space up. I don't think you would notice any difference in speed with a usb connection. The tablet just feels more natural for me when working with this software. I have looked at the 4550 and it is a nice printer. I have a really nice hp B&W printer. hp4MV does 11x17 at 600 dpi. It is a real workhorse and you are right about that memory. Makes a big difference. I just put a network card in my system and am going to get the printer off the parallel port. I can't bye the color printer yet as I need to buy a new camera first. That is a big investment too and I fall into the starving artist category. Lets not forget the new baby either. I have to go buy all new baby things yet.

So, when is your's coming?

Pat

pgetha
03-21-2001, 11:01 PM
Hello again Gary, yes your right, as long as the oxygen doesn't get to it, will keep for a long time. Your not too far from me are you? Does your son live in Kansas City or close? My neighbor just went to work for Hallmark. He called it the dream job. Said they really took care of him.

Gary B
03-22-2001, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by pgetha:
Hello again Gary, yes your right, as long as the oxygen doesn't get to it, will keep for a long time. Your not too far from me are you? Does your son live in Kansas City or close? My neighbor just went to work for Hallmark. He called it the dream job. Said they really took care of him.

My son lives in KC on Oak St...Found a beautiful old victorian house that he's remodeling. Not the best neighborhood (tough part of town), but he fell in love with the house. Artists are like that.

Besides, He seems to be ready for anything...
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This years hand-made halloween costume
Oh, and he has a dog (to stay on topic)


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