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12-27-2000, 01:31 PM
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This is a vermillion flycatcher done on canson Sketch 9x12 with pencils (HB and 2B)

01-13-2001, 11:15 PM
Thanks Sandi for your comments. I agree that I could do more on the head as the focal point but for now I`ll leave it until Larry or Darrel can help me with the "polishing touches"

01-14-2001, 01:40 AM
Nice job animal....there are no nuthatches around here , but I looked it up in my bird guide..I see quite a bit of contrast between the brilliant red of the head and breast and the black beak, wings and tail feathers.
maybe you should think of playing up that contrast even in a graphite drawing.
The head too seems odd shaped from my reference photo here, looks like a nice little round head in reality. I would like to see your reference material.
Even a small bird would need a bigger perch also animal..their feet have quite a span, he would have a difficult time perching on that thin branch. Your drawing shows your love for art as well as the birds animal....keep working on it...gets better all the time.


01-14-2001, 04:39 AM
Hey Animal...

have the branch the bird is sitting on go in length beyond the bird so we see it on the other side. It appears to be sticking or stabbing the bird stopping where it does.

I'm afraid because of the size that I can't see a great deal of actual technique...but I sense your pencil worked in the direction of the flow of the feathers which would be good.

The piece though..lacks some dynamics of light and dark. You need to imagine a light source...even if a reference photo does not show one.

The artist is at a bit of disadvantage to the camera...and must create an illusion of something appearing as real.

What I would sometimes do..is work with white sculpey clay, which is an oil based nondrying clay. I would make a small quick model of the bird or subject, and prop it up on a stick. Then I would shine a light on it to study light and shadows.

I did these excruciatingly detailed woodcarvings for a number of years, and did quite well in national competitionss with them, but so much time goes into them I can't afford to sell them at a price the public would be willing to buy them. As a result...I have all this equipment that sits idol, as I can do a painting in two hours that sells for more than a woodcarving I do in 100 hours! Bums me out...because I really enjoyed woodcarving.

Oh well...the thing is, such demand for detail meant I had to study and understand how light affects things. The sculpey class did a great deal to help me in this regard.

Right now...this drawing lacks some punch. IT needs stronger line in shadowed area... and stronger light where exposed to light.

Sometimes as an artist experiments with different media, he will discover that something clicks to emphasize form and the dynamics of light and dark contrasts better than others. With each work, the artist not only shows what he is capable of, but increases his own understanding.

One medium that is very good for helping to understand light and dark and form is scratchboard. That is...scratching small fine lines off a clay coated white board that has been covered with black India ink. Working in reverse...you immediately connect to what light does. It reveals....and the secret will be to resist working too much into the shadows.

Also...working with a black ink ballpoint pen and using watercolor washes can help develop this sense of form, contrast, etc; begin with simply black watercolor in light gray value washes....and eventually include color. Those are some of my suggestions!
take care....

Larry http://lseiler.artistnation.com

"Painting is easy when you don't know how, but very difficult when you do!" Edgar Degas

01-14-2001, 11:18 AM
Thanks Darrell and Larry

Darrell: Thanks for your comments. I had a little trouble with getting the head right but I liked the end result. I also thought the branch was a bit thin so I will probably go back and fix it.

Larry: I did work in the direction of the feathers just like you have to work the direction of the fur in an animal. I can now see what you mean about that branch and I`ll make it go through to the other side when I go back and fix his feet. There was not very much lights and darks in this little bird mostly on his head. Thanks Darrell and Larry http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif