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Kath
08-06-2000, 02:03 AM
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This is Boysie, he is my first attempt at an animal drawing and also at pastel.
Would love any suggestions. Any hints at drawing fur?

You may be wondering about his legs sticking out the front, he is very old and that is his usual position.

If this upload works I'll also post the photo so you can see what I'm working from.

Thanks everyone, I am learning heaps from Wet Canvas

Oh bye the way, is this the appropriate forum for this question? A bit undecided between animal and wildlife, pastel or critique forums. Chose 'animal' in the end because portraying the fur I found the hardest.

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Kath
08-06-2000, 02:09 AM
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Hi All,
This is the photo I'm am working from.
Thanks in advance for your help.

Kath.

dhenton
08-07-2000, 12:57 AM
way cool!! One thing I can think of, is in the muzzle you show the right side, but don't indicate the left side. The photo seems to do the same. I think it would be nice if you put just a hint suggesting it. Keep 'em coming!

Kath
08-08-2000, 11:45 PM
Thanks dhenton,
I added a touch of grey to the muzzel as you suggested and it has definately helped show the form better. Really apprieciate your imput.
Thanks,
Kath.

oleCC
08-19-2000, 07:11 AM
Hi Kath.. Your dogs fur looks nice to me,but maybe a little too much red compared to the photo? If you use more white on it, and soften the edges with a Q'tip you might like it better. Just MHO ..
An instructor in pastels once told me she also uses a bristle brush to pull hairs - !
I work mostly in watercolor so can't offer much help....keep posting http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif Carol

animal
08-24-2000, 11:45 AM
It`s pretty good for your first attempt at drawing animals, but i agree that there is too much red compared to the photo,also the fur could be rendered more, good luck on drawing animals, keep it up,

i`ve been drawing animals for a while and have just begun drawing people(what a change between the two)

sassybird
10-04-2000, 04:02 PM
Except for the ears Boysie looks a lot like my Peaches. He is an apricot toy/tea cup poodle. I think you did a great job at your start with two new areas, pastel and animals http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif

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tammy
10-09-2000, 08:23 PM
Don't be offended please.... Your painting to ME has a very whimsical feel to it and I LOVE IT. Your dog is sooooooooo cute. I wouldn't touch a thing.

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Tammy "the I don't know what kind of Artist, artist"

LarrySeiler
10-09-2000, 11:05 PM
Since this is your first attempt at animal drawing Kath, I'd like to encourage you early on to begin the habit of sketching. So so many artists do not understand that sketching is like athletes hitting the weight training room. It stretches the eyes and ability of the visual memory to quickly see details, relationships of shapes, etc., and thus become a ready source for accuracy.

Sketching makes you an expert of your subject matter before you even pick up the major medium materials.

Many artists do not realize they are putting themselves into a position for frustration, and will assume a poor handling of materials when they struggle, when in fact it often comes down to poor understanding of their subject.

Wildlife art, like almost no other..is a field of mandatory anatomical, biological and even field knowledge. I knew of an artist that put 200 hours in a painting he competed against mine. A competition I won, btw....but, he place a red pine cone in the painting under a white pine tree.

He must have simply walked out his back yard and grabbed a cone thinking, "this will be cool!" but...the judges that judge wildlife art are not art experts but rather often experts in wildlife management, etc; Thus, becoming a stickler for detail is one thing that defines one good wildlife artist from another.

My students often want to have me come help, sometimes "fix" their works in which they are struggling. I refuse to offer advice until they can prove to me they reached for their sketchbook, and did a number of quick black ink ballpoint pen sketches. Often, in so doing the sketches, the eye sees the problem.

In addition, the sketches take only a few minutes, and you can apply light washes of watercolor over the sketches to get a sense or feel of color that you will do later in oils, acrylics, or in your case pastels.

I'll encourage you to take time to look at my Wetcanvas ArtSchool lesson on sketching- http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/Drawing/Sketching/

Meanwhile...here's a quick ballpoint pen sketch I did of your photo. Notice that I estimated approximately how big the head of the dog was in relationship to the body. What is nice about sketches, is you can make notations to cue yourself in on for when you are working later.

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My own personal criticism of your piece here is that I am bothered by so little information given as concerns the body. It doesn't feel right to me to see it cut off this way. The head also looks a bit like a decal, pasted on top of the body.

Now....I am not wanting to sound mean. I know this is your first attempt, so don't get me wrong, I'm trying to encourage you.

I get the feeling that if you sketch this a number of times...pay attention to subtle shadows, muscularture and the way the fur lays over the anatomical structure of the dog, etc., that you would in doing this piece again make a bit more convincing piece.

As is...for a first attempt, you've done a considerably decent piece here! The habit of sketching will elevate your skills quickly! Good luck!

Larry http://lseiler.artistnation.com

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Kath
10-10-2000, 04:21 PM
Thankyou everyone for your comments.

Carol and Animal - I agree about the reddness. I want to work on more confidence with the pastels (physically more pastel on paper) which perhaps would help build up the colour and texture of the fur.

Sassybird and Tammy - Thankyou for your kind comments. As an update on little Boysie, he made it home to the USA but unfortunately died 2weeks later.

Larry - You don't sound mean at all. Since I'm just starting your constructive comments are very helpful.
I had felt also about the 'decal' quality of the head but was unsure how to rectify it.
Although I'm new to sketching (well all art actually) I enjoy it so that will be no chore. Sometimes when sketching I find it hard to find a balance between being too 'tight' or being so 'gestural' that it looks like a big mess. http://www.wetcanvas.com/ubb/smile.gif I guess that comes under the big heading Practice and Lots.

Thankyou again everyone, I find this feedback so helpful. You guys are great!
Bye for now
Kathleen


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arlene
10-11-2000, 08:36 AM
Kath,
Larry has said it hundreds of times, and I'll back him up...the best way to improve is with practice, practice, practice...and sketching is the best practice of all.

Try sketching both loose and tight, both have their place.

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tammy
10-15-2000, 10:10 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kath:
[B]Thankyou everyone for your comments.

Sassybird and Tammy - Thankyou for your kind comments. As an update on little Boysie, he made it home to the USA but unfortunately died 2weeks later.

I'm so sorry.
I have a soft spot in my heart for animals and little children.

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Tammy "the I don't know what kind of Artist, artist"