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Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 01:20 AM
Apologies for this being so late, but I'm afraid we suffered some technical problems with uploading images and then things went downhill from there.

Anyhow, the bottom line is I will be hosting this month's challenge and the reference images (fairly challenging I think) are given below.

They are all photographs I took at one time or another so you can see my idiosyncracies reflected in the challenges.

Crop them, change them, interpret them, warp them, do whatever your muse prompts you to do.

Do one, two or all. There are 4 images to choose from (I couldn't decide which to eliminate) so you have a good choice. They represent everything from the serious and serene to the stupid and silly; something for everyone!

So here they are:


First, "The Barfly":

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2010/108067-Barfly.jpg

Second, "Parallel Parking:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2010/108067-9-4-2008_10-54-56_AM_0061.jpg

Third,"Reflections on a river."

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2010/108067-99-160-43.jpg


And least as well as last, "I think the Guide's a little squirrelly!"

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Aug-2010/108067-IMG_0087.jpg


Enjoy. Post you WIP if you wish or just the finished piece. Please remeber to tell us:
a. What size it is.
b. What type of support was used.
c. What brands of OP were used.
d. Anything else you think might be interesting about the work.

Hope to see a bunch of y'all try one ore more even though it is late getting up and most importantly of all:

HAVE SOME FUN DOING WHATEVER YOU DO CREATIVELY. OTHERWISE, WHAT'S THE POINT IF YOU DON'T ENJOY IT.

Let the little kid in you run wild or the pensive artist in you try something new, for a change. (Hmmmm. "Something new for a change"; seems like if it's new it must be a change, doesn't it????)

Bill
:heart: :heart: :music: :music: :heart: :heart:

GOSH
08-06-2010, 02:44 AM
Hi, Bill! Thank you for hosting this month's challenge.

Your pictures look tempting. :clap:

davepuls
08-06-2010, 04:12 AM
Wow - what a range of images. I think I'll be trying the "reflections" one, as this definitely suits my style of subjects best - I can almost see the impressionist "brushstrokes" already...

Pat Isaac
08-06-2010, 07:46 AM
Great images, Bill. Those reflections are gorgeous.

pat

ArbySD
08-06-2010, 08:33 AM
Great! This will be a real challenge. I can't tell you how much I learned last month!

oldrockchick
08-06-2010, 08:49 AM
These are so cool - what happened to the car? eek bad driving? lol The squrrel uis cute but those reflections are inspiring.

btw I'm so glad we can now have FOUR refs - so much more choice. I wanted 4 last time but Pat wielded her big stick and only let me have three. I like lots of choice so I prefer 4 to choose from.:clap:

Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 09:40 AM
Hi, Bill! Thank you for hosting this month's challenge.

Your pictures look tempting. :clap:

GOSH, this is the kind of temptation it is OK to give in to!

Love to see what you do with these.

Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 09:43 AM
Wow - what a range of images. I think I'll be trying the "reflections" one, as this definitely suits my style of subjects best - I can almost see the impressionist "brushstrokes" already...

Thanks, Dave. I think you are correct that the reflections are great material for an impressionist rendition. Can't wait to see it.

I have really grown fond of the imagery one can get, everything from realism to abstraction by photographing reflections of gently rippling water from various distances. Some images you could never paint easily without capturing the constantly changing kaleidoscope of colors and patterns.

VladK
08-06-2010, 09:46 AM
Bill, very nice photos. I especially like reflections. Thank you for hosting.

Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 09:48 AM
Great images, Bill. Those reflections are gorgeous.

pat

Thanks Pat, I tried to provide something for everyone's taste from the serene to the silly! Sometimes we forget that the Impressionists were ridiculed for painting "everyday life and objects" rather than ethereal and romanticized allegories. What seems quaint and lovely in their paintings to day would have seemed as commonplace as some of these images. We often don't really see the world all around us as the fodder for images that a century down the road will seem as quaint as the olive groves and wheat fields and bridges the Van Gogh's painted.

Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 09:52 AM
Great! This will be a real challenge. I can't tell you how much I learned last month!

Every stroke you make is a learning experience whether you are happy with it or wish you had done it another way.

What we often feel as disappointment in a piece should be seen as explorations that have shown us what doesn't work for us and opens paths to new ideas about how to accomplish our creative vision!

Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 09:57 AM
These are so cool - what happened to the car? eek bad driving? lol The squrrel uis cute but those reflections are inspiring.

btw I'm so glad we can now have FOUR refs - so much more choice. I wanted 4 last time but Pat wielded her big stick and only let me have three. I like lots of choice so I prefer 4 to choose from.:clap:

Well, she knows if she injures me to badly she'll have to find a new Guide and where would she find someone as "pliant" and "obediant" a little ole me? Not to mention the fact the salary of $0 is not exactly something people are lineing up for.

Now, the real test for you, LIN, is can you tell me where the first image (BARFLY) was taken????? The clock is ticking!

:evil:

Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 10:04 AM
Bill, very nice photos. I especially like reflections. Thank you for hosting.

Thanks, Vlad. Seems like the reflections are picking up steam as the most popular. Perhaps I will have to try one of the others. I'm sure RG or GOSH will give us a take on the Paralell Parking:lol:

Look forward to seeing your interpretation of the reflections. It's a favorite of mine, too. One of a series of reflection pics I took last fall alond the Wisconsin River when I was enthralled by the images reflections make as the focus of a picture rather than a sidebar to the actual object.

When you have a beautiful sunny day with white clouds in a brilliant blue sky, along with jus a tad of gentle movment on the surface of the water you can create some incredble images.

halthepainter
08-06-2010, 11:43 AM
Bill, thank you for taking over the duty.

I think I'll give the squirrel a try. The half Hudson is a bit wierd for me and giving us the bird, now really....????:lol:

Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 01:13 PM
Bill, thank you for taking over the duty.

I think I'll give the squirrel a try. The half Hudson is a bit wierd for me and giving us the bird, now really....????:lol:

It's really good to have you back around, Hal. Your sense of humor has always been refressing and you often have a different perspective on things that makes us think.

Hope all is going well and.....what can I say? I gave you the squirrel, too! And good eye on the Hudson, I wasn't sure if anyone would notice or could read the logo.

Have to explain that one another time!:thumbsup:

Bill
:wave: :thumbsup: :wave:

RainySea
08-06-2010, 01:16 PM
I like the squirrel, too. . .

Scarefishcrow
08-06-2010, 01:23 PM
I like the squirrel, too. . .


I thought he was kinda cute, too, Rainy! Look forward to seeing what you do with it.

Just wondering if anyone is going to brave "Half of a Hudson"? :lol: :lol:

halthepainter
08-06-2010, 01:48 PM
Hope all is going well and.....what can I say? I gave you the squirrel, too! And good eye on the Hudson, I wasn't sure if anyone would notice or could read the logo.

Have to explain that one another time!:thumbsup:

Bill
:wave: :thumbsup: :wave:

Looking forward to it.

Pat Isaac
08-06-2010, 03:33 PM
Well, she knows if she injures me to badly she'll have to find a new Guide and where would she find someone as "pliant" and "obediant" a little ole me? Not to mention the fact the salary of $0 is not exactly something people are lineing up for.

Yup, can't beat that salary.....:lol:

Pat

GOSH
08-06-2010, 06:29 PM
I'm sure RG or GOSH will give us a take on the Paralell Parking:lol:


How did you guess? :thumbsup:

SunFace
08-06-2010, 11:57 PM
I came here out of curiosity. I have never been able to work with oil pastels, so I look forward to seeing all your works! :heart:

IrishRose
08-07-2010, 12:55 PM
Hi Maria! Me too :)

Scarefishcrow
08-07-2010, 02:20 PM
I came here out of curiosity. I have never been able to work with oil pastels, so I look forward to seeing all your works! :heart:

Every journey starts with the first step! Give them a try!

Bill
:heart: :music: :heart:

Scarefishcrow
08-07-2010, 02:21 PM
Hi Maria! Me too :)

Now is as good a time as any to start!

Scarefishcrow
08-07-2010, 02:22 PM
How did you guess? :thumbsup:

Lucky Guess?????:evil: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

halthepainter
08-07-2010, 04:03 PM
I came here out of curiosity. I have never been able to work with oil pastels, so I look forward to seeing all your works! :heart:

Maria and Irish Rose, go into our OP Library and check out the prior months' challenges. There are many examples of prior work and some showing the steps enroute to the finished pieces.

oldrockchick
08-07-2010, 04:11 PM
your pic is not familiar to me Bill but it looks like the type of bar (and seagull) one would find at the end of the pier at a British seaside resort. ... might be one I haven't been to.

IrishRose
08-07-2010, 04:19 PM
Hal, thanks for the info :)

Here's my challenge painting :) 3 x 5" Specialist and Neopastel :)

halthepainter
08-07-2010, 04:22 PM
your pic is not familiar to me Bill but it looks like the type of bar (and seagull) one would find at the end of the pier at a British seaside resort. ... might be one I haven't been to.

Is that possible???:evil:

Also, I noticed in the reference photo that, Victoria is really glaring at the seagull. Do you supposed it made a deposit????:eek:

halthepainter
08-07-2010, 04:25 PM
Wonderful job Rose, especially in such a small format. (It saves the OP sticks that way) Surprised you didn't do it as an "ACT.":thumbsup:

IrishRose
08-07-2010, 04:28 PM
Hal... that's my next challenge.. and for sure, it does save the OPs! I definitely found by this exercise that I DO NOT like Specialist OP and will be using the colors for backgrounds only. The crumbs that it leaves behind really messes up the other colors because it's hard to brush the larger pieces off. Not a problem with any other oilies I've used before. These are supposedly artist quality and nearly the same price as Neos... I would have rather bought a 48 set of Neos instead.. ah.. live and learn.

Thanks for the kind words :)

RainySea
08-07-2010, 04:57 PM
That painting is very nice, Rose. . . especially being so small!

I have a work that is 9 x 12 which I did entirely with the Specialist on Bristol Vellum over a year ago. I was not overly thrilled with them either as compared to Neopastel, which I really like. It has held up well though which I was not sure if it would being on paper like that. I'd done it when first starting out in OP. I think it was like my second one or something. . . I have not used the specialist op since then but I do like the colors.

IrishRose
08-07-2010, 05:16 PM
Rainy, thanks :)

I'm glad I'm not alone in my thoughts about Specialist. I remember my kids at one point having the Expressionist and knowing that was student grade, I figured I'd give the artist quality a chance. Well, thank goodness I got the set for $50 bucks on Ebay. It sells for 88 dollars at Blick and I got free shipping too... so I guess I can't complain. I will be using them for backgrounds but definitely not details. I found that if a dark crumb breaks off, then it's disaster esp if working on a small scale like I do :) I appreciate your thoughts.

lonelm
08-07-2010, 05:29 PM
Wow Rose great job on such a little painting. Beautifully done.

I kept checking back to see if one was coming this month and I am so glad I did. Love the refs they are all stupendous, now to decide which one to do.

IrishRose
08-07-2010, 05:45 PM
Thanks Judy. Do join in!

ArbySD
08-07-2010, 07:56 PM
Rose, your painting is beautiful! Thanks for starting us off. :clap:

IrishRose
08-07-2010, 08:43 PM
Robin, thanks :)

davepuls
08-08-2010, 12:29 PM
Great job Rose, beautiful painting!

Here is my painting of the reflections - slightly larger: 8x6 inches, on Arches watercolour paper.

In a new experiment for me, I did an under an underpainting in artist quality watercolour (just ultramarine, and then added cadmium yellow over the top where the green should be). The rest is Sennelier oil pastels, but some of the watercolour is showing through.

Please do let me know what you think!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2010/188291-Reflections_800.jpg

lonelm
08-08-2010, 03:47 PM
Lovely job Dave. I like the under painting idea to minimize the white spots. It is very nicely done.

SunFace
08-08-2010, 05:45 PM
Well, I will think about it and see f I have time to do something. This has been a busy month, and lately I have been wanting to learn all the mediums, and seem to get in all the challenges ! :eek:

I do like the Cadillac photo the best! Do you have a link on how to work with them? When I once tried them I seem to get all those white marks in the paper .....:confused:

IrishRose
08-08-2010, 06:42 PM
Dave.. wow... gorgeous painting! I am a huge lover of ultramarine.. it really works well!

halthepainter
08-08-2010, 06:45 PM
Great job Dave.

Scarefishcrow
08-08-2010, 09:54 PM
Maria and Irish Rose, go into our OP Library and check out the prior months' challenges. There are many examples of prior work and some showing the steps enroute to the finished pieces.

Thanks, Hal! That's a good point. :thumbsup:

Also check the Library Forum called WIPs (Works in Progress) that contains threads from the studios of individuals that post stages in the completion of paintings they are working on as they make progress on them!

You can find it here:
http://wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=435

The Library Forums all represent the accumulated knowlege of OP's and techniques since the start of this Channel. Check all of them out:

http://wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=394

Good luck!

Bill
:heart: :music: :heart:

Scarefishcrow
08-08-2010, 10:05 PM
your pic is not familiar to me Bill but it looks like the type of bar (and seagull) one would find at the end of the pier at a British seaside resort. ... might be one I haven't been to.


:clap: :clap: Close enough, Lin! Pretty good eye!! How about Brighton Pier??? :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

What a mind!

Bill
:heart: :music: :heart:

Scarefishcrow
08-08-2010, 10:46 PM
ROSE: Good job with the reflections in such a small format. One thing to remember is that of the spectrum of working qualitites, Specialists are definitely at the most firm and dry end of the "artist quality" OPs (although I would like to know where you get NeoPastels at anywhere close to the price of specialists).

NeoPastels are one of my favorites as a compromise betweem creamy texture and firm enought to control. Each brand has its own unique character and usefulness depending on what you are trying to achieve.

DAVE: You did a good job and the texture of the wc paper gives it an interesting appearance. Just IMHO, I might suggest a bit more blending of the OP to give it a bit less hard edged appearnce in places, but that's just my take and not a big deal.

Anyway, it is well done and thanks tp both for your sharing the outcome of your interpretations.

Bill
:thumbsup: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

ArbySD
08-09-2010, 07:55 AM
There must have been a lot of electronic spasms last night! I think I ended up with 6 posts in one forum.

I just took another look at the bird photo, and I see what you mean about the queen's expression. Wasn't Victoria the one who said, "We are not amused?" :lol:

ArbySD
08-09-2010, 07:57 AM
Dave, I think the watercolor underpainting works well. I love the colors in the reflected clouds.

IrishRose
08-09-2010, 08:50 AM
Thank you, Dave. I tried commenting yesterday, but WC was totally having issues! I love your painting, Dave. Your blues are much brighter and really livens up the reflections. I LOVE Ultramarine Blue... you did a great job!

SunFace
08-09-2010, 12:31 PM
Well, I will think about it and see f I have time to do something. This has been a busy month, and lately I have been wanting to learn all the mediums, and seem to get in all the challenges ! :eek:

I do like the Cadillac photo the best! Do you have a link on how to work with them? When I once tried them I seem to get all those white marks in the paper .....:confused:

IrishRose
08-09-2010, 12:33 PM
Maria.. I didn't have any trouble downloading and printing the photo.. no white marks either. I just do a regular download. I don't understand what you mean??

SunFace
08-09-2010, 12:33 PM
I have been having many problems with this website .... wonder what is wrong?

davepuls I like your reflection of the tree a lot!

Scarefishcrow
08-09-2010, 12:49 PM
I have been having many problems with this website .... wonder what is wrong?

davepuls I like your reflection of the tree a lot!

The site problems are due to the fact that they are working on the system servers trying to deal with some problems that have been hanging around for a while.

When they are working on the system it often causes slow downs and sluggish response.

Bill
:heart: :music: :heart:

Pat Isaac
08-09-2010, 03:52 PM
Nicley done, Rose onthe small format.
Good job, Dave and the underpainting works well.
WC is a little better today.

Pat

IrishRose
08-09-2010, 04:27 PM
Thank you, Pat :) That means a lot to me!

VladK
08-09-2010, 10:53 PM
Hello, here is my squirrel. Honestly, I hate them when they ruin my garden, but they are so cute when I don't think about it :wink2:

So, Sennelier OPs on very dark(black+alizarin crimson acrylics) toned WC paper, primed once with dilluted colorfix primer (for small tooth), size is about 6"x8". I spent about an hour.

Thank you in advance for your comments.

VladK
08-09-2010, 10:58 PM
Rose, very well done for this size, love your colors
Dave, good job on reflections, nice feel of color

davepuls
08-10-2010, 04:59 AM
Vlad - great squirrel! Watercolour paper prepared with acrylics - I've always wondered what's the benefit of acrylic on watercolour paper, but it seemed to work well. I need to do more experimenting with both watercolour and acrylic underpaintings. I find the problem with OPs on watercolour paper is the white "holes" in the painting due to the texture, but the underpainting solves this.

Dave

IrishRose
08-10-2010, 09:13 AM
Vlad.. so true about those pesky squirrels! I love the fact that you did an underpainting with acrylic... I haven't tried it but always wanted to know how others liked it or used it. I'd say it's a fantastic technique. You definitely captured the feeling of surprise this little guy felt when he was caught in the camera lens. Great color and close up!

IrishRose
08-10-2010, 09:18 AM
ROSE: Good job with the reflections in such a small format. One thing to remember is that of the spectrum of working qualitites, Specialists are definitely at the most firm and dry end of the "artist quality" OPs (although I would like to know where you get NeoPastels at anywhere close to the price of specialists).

NeoPastels are one of my favorites as a compromise betweem creamy texture and firm enought to control. Each brand has its own unique character and usefulness depending on what you are trying to achieve.

[B]

Bill, somehow I missed this ... thank you for for your comments.. as for the Specialists.. I just bought a 50 set on Ebay for 54 dollars (haggled down to free shipping too).. and saw on Blick that the box of 50 goes for $86 dollars, which is the SAME price as the Neopastels tin of 48. So I just don't understand how two sets of pastels, one which is obviously inferior (to me ;)) could cost the same. I hardly see a contest here. But then, everyone is different. I found sooo many crumbs when doing backgrounds and it's death if the background is dark and one of those crumbs go unseen, only to end up somewhere else on a lighter part of the painting. I don't find that at all with the NeoPastels.

I did just get a tin of NeoPastels on Ebay (48 set) for 39.00 plus free shipping, so I must have done something right :)

I truly am in love with the NeoPastels more than any other brand, though the Holbeins are a dream.. just an expensive one at this point!

Thanks again for more links :)

halthepainter
08-10-2010, 09:31 AM
Vlad your squirrel is fantastic, love him. :thumbsup:

I'm also working on the squirrel, 11 by 14 inches but I can only work on it in small snatches of time at the moment and it will take me awhile.:rolleyes:

Pat Isaac
08-10-2010, 04:59 PM
Definitely has that pesky squirrel look, Vlad. Gret use of color.

Pat

ArbySD
08-10-2010, 09:41 PM
Rose, you are the ebay queen!:thumbsup:

IrishRose
08-11-2010, 07:53 AM
LOL Robin... for almost 11 years now. :) I can find nearly anything!

RainySea
08-11-2010, 08:25 AM
Hi Dave. . . I like your use of the underpainting. The texture on watercolor does make it hard to get away from the white dots showing but using the underpainting did away with that! I keep saying I have to try it sometime, but never have yet. I like the cloud reflection/colors.

Vlad, I cannot see your squirrel. . . it does not load for me. Its weird as some images (like Dave's and Rose's) show up fine but others are just not there like yours in this thread and the first one Toshi posted in hers (although her second one shows). Wonder what is the deal with that, I mean why do SOME show and others NOT? I can't figure.

VladK
08-11-2010, 11:03 AM
Thank you Dave, Rose, Hal and Pat.

Hi Hal, long time no see. Welcome back!

Rainy, I swear it was a squirrel:lol: Seriously, I think they are still working on server. I uploaded my image as attachment, and this only worked recently, insert did not work, now looks like those inserted are shown, attached are in different location, thus invisible. Hopefully, they gonna fix it soon.

By the way, I'm hosting landscape challenge this month and you all welcome to join: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633661

While I was updating, they fixed it. Everything is working again:music: :clap:

RainySea
08-11-2010, 06:52 PM
I still can't see the squirrel or your images on the landscape challenge either. I will be patient and hope it works for me soon :)

halthepainter
08-11-2010, 11:13 PM
This is a WIP of my "Squirrel in the Forest Dark and Deep."

11 by 14 inches on Canson, black art board with clear gesso ground, All Erengi's.

I overworked the squirrel and will do more when things firm up a bit. I'll work on the fur texture some more and do some detail work on the eyes and will reevalueate the background.

I like Vlad's squirrel much better.

I just wanted to get something in before I set this aside for a couple of days. The flash seems to have over emphasized the contrast by making the lights considerably lighter.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Aug-2010/140488-wc_op_challenge_squirrel_wip.jpg

davepuls
08-12-2010, 02:17 AM
Vlad - the landscape challenge sounds great, but I also can't see the images. Looks like the image uploader is working, but attaching images is not. I would love to see those photos and join in!!

Hal - great squirrel, I love what you've done with the dark background.

Pat Isaac
08-12-2010, 08:27 AM
Great start, Hal and I also like the dark feeling.

Pat

VladK
08-12-2010, 09:47 AM
Hal, great start, it already looks very nice, and I like your dark background, it gives depth and contrast. Three bark is well done.

Dave, thank you for looking, please check post #50 on page 4, Paula reposted the images so they are available now. You are very welcome to join:wave:

Oops - now I don't see my squirrel:(

IrishRose
08-12-2010, 10:50 AM
Wow, Hal!!! That's awesome.. love how you changed the lighting.. kind of spooky too.. Very well done!

halthepainter
08-12-2010, 12:19 PM
Thank you Pat, Vlad, and Rose.

I didn't think the squirrel's tail would show up well against the trunk, so I curled it away from the trunk. Of course Vlad proved me wrong. His squirrel's tail works very well against the trunk.

SunFace
08-12-2010, 01:40 PM
Hal, very nice. Love the bold colors!

GhettoDaveyHavok
08-12-2010, 02:05 PM
DUUUUUDE! The bird on the first one looks amazing!

...Must... Attempt!

gakinme
08-12-2010, 11:33 PM
Rose, Vlad, I can't see your images at all. Can others see it and is it only me who can't see it?

Steve, nice broken reflection of the trees. Perhaps zig zag the trunk a bit more. But I like the colors.

Hal, wow, a true nocturnal animal there! The whole scene looks spooky too. I think your squirrel is not very friendly.

Beautiful_Butterflies_Studio
08-13-2010, 07:16 AM
Rose, Vlad, I can't see your images at all. Can others see it and is it only me who can't see it?.

I can't either......... HELP:eek:

halthepainter
08-13-2010, 08:38 AM
Hal, wow, a true nocturnal animal there! The whole scene looks spooky too. I think your squirrel is not very friendly.

I figured the squirrel was giving it to whomever took the photo. Squirrels, in the woods, will often chitter at anyone disturbing their domain.

Scarefishcrow
08-13-2010, 12:25 PM
I can't either......... HELP:eek:

Add me to the list not able to see attached images.

Actually, I can see Rose's. bit can't see yours, Vlad.

Gremlins on the loose. Howcome others can see them:

Could you try uploading the image again?


Bill
:evil: :music: :evil:

Pat Isaac
08-13-2010, 03:28 PM
Don't know what the problem is as I can see them, but uploading again helps.

Pat

RainySea
08-13-2010, 04:08 PM
Hal, great squirrel. . . love the tree bark and texture especially. And his fluffy tail.

halthepainter
08-13-2010, 05:07 PM
I worked on the Squirrel a bit more, trying to enrich his colors. However all I succeeded in doing was to create mud with the previous colors bleeding up into the new layers. To get rid of the mud, I cooled down his colors but not as much as the photo shows.

This photo was taken in natural daylight and for some reason the squirrel's colors are washing out. The rest of the colors ring true. The previous photo was taken at night with flash and many of the colors didn't seem to show up.

I'm not sure I'll do anymore with him. I'm out of ideas and I'm afraid any more work on him will just mess up the painting even more.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2010/140488-wc_Op_squirrel,_aug_challenge.jpg

Pat Isaac
08-13-2010, 05:16 PM
Everybody read the announcement at the top of the forum regarding missing images...

Pat

IrishRose
08-13-2010, 06:16 PM
I didn't find any announcement?? :(

VladK
08-13-2010, 09:03 PM
Hal, nicely done, only if you can don't use a flash - it discolors the image. Remember you advised me last year only natural light. I read - better in the evening and northern light. I personally use Home Depot's natural light lamp.

Pat I realized it depends on the browser and version of Windows. From home machine (Win7 + Google Chrome) I see all the images, from Blackberry - only attached, no inserted, and etc. I tried different points of view (win XP, IE7, IE6) and somehow it does not work the same way.

Please let me know if you see my INSERTED image on page 4. If not, I'll upload and ATTACH it. Thanks.

jachang
08-14-2010, 12:22 AM
[quote=gakinme]Rose, Vlad, I can't see your images at all. Can others see it and is it only me who can't see it?

I've been having a problem seeing many images on the site also. Someone said that if you upload using the little mountain icon instead of as an attachment, it will work, and you get the image inside your post. The attachments don't seem to be visible to a lot of people. Aaargghhh...I'm missing lots of good stuff.:crying:

Jean

Pat Isaac
08-14-2010, 08:23 AM
The announceent is at the top of every forum. In the studio forum it is just above the beginning of all the threads.
Yes, Vlad I see your image there.
I always use the little mountain to put in my images. Just seems easier to me and the image is inside your post.

Pat

IrishRose
08-14-2010, 09:27 AM
I use the mountain too.. it's the only way it works for me. Pat, will check it out again... maybe the announcements are hidden too??? hehe.. no, probably just me!

halthepainter
08-14-2010, 09:52 AM
I use the mountain too.. it's the only way it works for me. Pat, will check it out again... maybe the announcements are hidden too??? hehe.. no, probably just me!

Rose, to see the announcement: back out of this thread. Go to the top of this screen and click on *Oil Pastel Studio" and it will take you out of this thread. Just below where you would click to start a new thread, you will see the announcement.

Just in case, I've added the link.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/announcement.php?f=393

Pat Isaac
08-14-2010, 10:04 AM
Thanks, Hal. I was just going to do that.

Pat

IrishRose
08-14-2010, 10:15 AM
Thank you, Hal. That link is the only thing that works for me. I've signed in and out and even tried other parts of the forums to see if I can find it. It started to frustrate me.. but thank you... now I have the link! ;) Geesh, why is it always so hard??

gakinme
08-14-2010, 12:46 PM
I still can't see a lot of the images. Vlad, sorry, I can't see yours either.

Here's my car. I was revisiting my Mungyo Gallery Oil Pastel. I got to be lying if I say I still like them as much as I used to. It's hard and it keeps dropping these little bits of pigment along the way. :lol:

65 lb red cardstock primed with clear Colorfix pastel ground. 8.5 x 11 inch
Walnut Hollow oil pencils

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Aug-2010/86669-op_car2.jpg


Since Walnut Hollow Oil pencils are no longer in production and Blick sold the last pack (I want to kick myself not buying the last 36 pc pack at half price), Pat, you mentioned that you like Lyra?

Does Lyra come close to Walnut Hollow Oil on doing details on top of Sennelier? Which Lyra brand? Can you give me a link please?

Thank you.

Pat Isaac
08-14-2010, 01:07 PM
Here is a link to the pencils. http://www.dickblick.com/products/lyra-rembrandt-polycolor-premium-oil-based-colored-pencil-sets/

Nice strong color in the car....yeah, you get spoiled using the good oilies..

Pat

halthepainter
08-14-2010, 01:16 PM
Nice job Sandra. I was curious if anyone would try the "Half Hudson" ;) :thumbsup:

gakinme
08-14-2010, 02:31 PM
Thank you, Hal, Pat.

So, Pat, these Lyra's are just as oil friendly as Walnut Hollow Oil for real? They really show up on top of oil pastels?

Pat Isaac
08-14-2010, 03:16 PM
They have worked for me and I also like the Pablos by Caran D'ache.
Here is a link to the Pablos. I think these may be a little softer.
http://www.dickblick.com/products/caran-dache-pablo-colored-pencils/

Pat

SunFace
08-14-2010, 03:40 PM
gakinme Love the Cadillac!

halthepainter Your squirrel is amazing! I think you did a great job.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

halthepainter
08-14-2010, 04:09 PM
gakinme Love the Cadillac!

Cadillac, what Cadillac?? :lol: :lol: It's a Hudson. You must not be a geezer like Bill and Me, otherwise you would be familiar with the long extinct brand.

The Hudson was an upscale car and if memory serves it went out of business in the late 50s or early 60s.



halthepainter Your squirrel is amazing! I think you did a great job.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Thank you Maria, you are most kind.

robertsloan2
08-14-2010, 05:25 PM
Hal, your squirrel is gorgeous. I love the way you made him lighter so that he pops out as the focal point of the painting. Beautiful.

Sandra, wow! You did the half a car! I'm impressed. Vehicles are incredibly tough to do well and you got its proportions and shiny metal texture so well. Gorgeous painting. I wouldn't have dared try it, but you got it just right.

Yep, I got spoiled by the good artist grade ones too, except for a couple of specific cheap brands - Pentel and maybe Loew Cornell or Niji. You managed to do so well with a less controllable pastel - congratulations!

Today I did one: here's my version of the squirrel.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Aug-2010/70184-August-OP-Challenge-Squirrel.jpg
August Oil Pastel Challenge
Squirrel in a Tree
5" x 7"
Pentel oil pastels used with W&N Sansodor turpentine substitute
Pentalic Nature Sketch 130lb off white heavy drawing paper.
Photo reference by scarefishcrow.

I also tried my new can of Sennelier Oil Pastels Fixative on it, with four thin coats after I'd scanned the squirrel.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Aug-2010/70184-August-OP-Challenge-Squirrel-Fixative.jpg
Scanned after using Sennelier D'Artigny Oil Pastel Fixative
After the fixative dried, running my fingers lightly over the painting did not pick up any residual color (it did before the fixative). Wiping the scanner bed did not pick up any crumbs or residual color. I don't see any difference, the fixative seems definitely clear.

This may reduce the amount of smearing on the back of the page before this one. I also found out with this painting that the Pentalic Nature Sketch paper stands up very well to thinner washes, so I may use more wet techniques with oil pastels on it.

halthepainter
08-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Beautiful squirrel Robert. The fixative didn't seem to change the colors much if at all.

I would still like to find a way to frame without glazing. It would be great to get relief from the reflections and the weight.

During a recent show one of my paintings was hung above eye level and the glare and reflection from the overhead lighting obscured most of the painting.

gakinme
08-14-2010, 05:40 PM
Robert, great vibrant colored squirrel! Did you read one of the thread on this Sennelier fixative. It was said that it started flaking off after a while.

Pat, I remember you said you didn't like Pablo as much but liked Walnut Hollow better. I've tried a sample of Pablo and didn't like it either. Walnut Hollow surpassed Pablo in laying down colors on top of oil pastels. That's why I am so interested in Lyta because that is one brand I haven't tried yet.

Thanks for the links in any case.

Scarefishcrow
08-14-2010, 06:11 PM
Sandra: Good job on the HUDSON. This was really quite a tough challenge to get the half of the car as well as the soft mirror image reflected in the wall. You did well.

Robert: Great job on the squirrel! I like your crop and bold loose strokes of color.

Hal:Like the changes alhough I thought the first was fine.

Vlad: I know your must me well done, just can't see it for some reason. You are right about the various browsers and I have tried to suggest that they need to have the techies describe the optimal configurations for various browser/OS combos so things like the uploader work correctly.

Great work all. Hope I get a chance to participate myself before the month is done!!!:eek:

Bill
:thumbsup: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

SunFace
08-14-2010, 06:20 PM
Robert,

Awesome job!

I am not sure if I like your oil patels renditions better than the soft ones. I specially like your strokes!

halthepainter
08-14-2010, 06:47 PM
Hal:Like the changes alhough I thought the first was fine.

Bill
:thumbsup: :clap: :clap: :thumbsup:

Bill, I was anxious to get something posted and posted a flash photo that came out quite dark. I thought the first, darker photo was pretty neat but alas my second photo, taken in natural light, was more accurate.

robertsloan2
08-14-2010, 06:55 PM
Thanks! I don't know if it'll start flaking after a while. But I think its being in a sketchbook where the page may bend as it turns would be a tougher test of flaking than if it was just on a wall sitting still and vertical. I'll watch it for changes.

Maria, I like using both oil pastels and soft pastels. Sometimes the techniques are different and always the results are different. So that's really a matter of personal taste. Glad you like my squirrel.

That pose was very difficult. Getting him facing the camera like that made it hard to give his face depth and get the shape right, but after much trial and error, I got it.

VladK
08-14-2010, 09:44 PM
Sandra, amazing work and so rich colors.
Robert, great job on squirrel, I like contrast you've achieved. And nice try on fixative. I also tried some time ago and it worked perfectly. RG said it's gonna be new Sennelier glazing for OP, so it'll completely eliminate the need of under the glass framing.
Bill, thank you, now i have to attach my picture:wink2: sorry for being late - thought they'll fix it before

halthepainter
08-14-2010, 09:53 PM
Vlad your squirrel is delightful. Well done.

ArbySD
08-14-2010, 10:19 PM
Everyone has done such a good job on the squirrel! Sandra, way to go on the Hudson! I keep looking at each challenge photo in turn and still don't see how I am going to approach any of them. I'll get something posted by the end of the month. Until then I'll sit in my comfy chair and watch everyone else create!

robertsloan2
08-14-2010, 11:24 PM
Vlad, thank you! I love how yours came out, so painterly. Gorgeous. What oil pastels did you use? Looks like they were softer ones than I used, your transitions on his face are so elegant and controlled.

RG said that? Cool. I trust his judgment... maybe I could use it to frame an OP unglazed. It would help a lot, since I have a couple of frames that don't have glass in them that I could use.

VladK
08-15-2010, 12:06 AM
Hi Robert. I used Senneliers only on that one. But I also sometimes use Erengis, that are harder and have nice choices of colors. I made my decision which ones to buy based mostly on your website. So thanks again :D

And I also use Walnut Hollow oil pencils for very small details and signature.

Yes, RG said that in one of his posts I believe on April or May, he said he read it somewhere. Because I was experimenting at that time with Sennelier's fixative (3 layers) and then 2 layers of golden varnish. It went not bad, except I used also Erengis and they tend to change color. Sennelier must go with its kind for chemistry to work:wink2:

truck driver
08-15-2010, 01:02 AM
I cant find where it is mentioned what I said.

RG

truck driver
08-15-2010, 01:14 AM
Hi Robert. I used Senneliers only on that one. But I also sometimes use Erengis, that are harder and have nice choices of colors. I made my decision which ones to buy based mostly on your website. So thanks again :D

And I also use Walnut Hollow oil pencils for very small details and signature.

Yes, RG said that in one of his posts I believe on April or May, he said he read it somewhere. Because I was experimenting at that time with Sennelier's fixative (3 layers) and then 2 layers of golden varnish. It went not bad, except I used also Erengis and they tend to change color. Sennelier must go with its kind for chemistry to work:wink2:


What I said was Natural Pigments is working on a solution to the problem. For a sketchbook sennelier works fine. For polished finished works. I have to recommend glazing under glass at this point in time. I doubt you will have any issues with cracking in the sketchbook, slight darkening over time perhaps.
The major issue I have with these is they can NOT be removed at all for cleaning.

The flaking issue is a matter of both the substrate, and the fixative its the combination of the two that is a issue.

RG

VladK
08-15-2010, 09:03 AM
Hi RG, I finally found that post, we were discussing the varnish topic in April OP challenge: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=615442&page=7

"This summer there will be a varnish that can be used with oil pastels. However at this point there is none that I can recommend with any confidence at all."

Sorry, I meant a varnish there, not glazing (I do a lot of glazing :wink2: ).

Thank you RG. And you are correct - the OP varnish is long due, as more and more artists use OPs, and it would be perfect to preserve and display works without the glass. Hopefully, the varnish product will be out there soon.

truck driver
08-17-2010, 06:42 AM
Hi RG, I finally found that post, we were discussing the varnish topic in April OP challenge: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=615442&page=7

"This summer there will be a varnish that can be used with oil pastels. However at this point there is none that I can recommend with any confidence at all."

Sorry, I meant a varnish there, not glazing (I do a lot of glazing :wink2: ).

Thank you RG. And you are correct - the OP varnish is long due, as more and more artists use OPs, and it would be perfect to preserve and display works without the glass. Hopefully, the varnish product will be out there soon.

I'm going to update that tidbit a touch. It appears that it will be a little longer. As I get more information I will keep you up to date.

RG

SunFace
08-17-2010, 01:34 PM
Vlad gorgeous squirrel.


I am at owe since I worked on the car. is my first oil pastels, and I found them quite difficult to work with. I really appreciated Roberts website with all the juicy tips and recommendations.

I worked on the car (I have been calling it a Cadillac and I do not know what car it is! :lol: :D :lol: ) And I was really hesitant to post it, since is not all that good. I first blended all with mineral spirits, and then went back over it with the pastels.

I do not have good quality materials at all. Only the student grade type and I real thought that crayola crayons would have even be better!) I had got them for a college drawing class a long time ago because it was on the list, and always wanted to see if I could do something with them.

Anyway, here it is. I found it really hard to apply any values on it.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Aug-2010/154374-Car.jpg

IrishRose
08-17-2010, 02:25 PM
Maria.. wow, this is a great first painting! If this is how good you are with student grade, you'd be awesome with better tools. Are you thinking of continuing with them or is this not the medium you usually work in? You are a natural!!

robertsloan2
08-17-2010, 03:18 PM
RG, thanks for clarifying that. I like the Sennelier fixative in my sketchbook, usually any oil pastels smear onto the opposing page. It doesn't always hurt the sketch but it annoys me and means I can't have anything on the opposing page. I like the surface I got with the Sennelier.

I am looking forward to it if Natural Pigments does come up with a good solution to the problem. A varnish for oil pastels that's removable without damaging the paint layer would be wonderful, being able to do them without framing would be great. Especially with substrates like cradled gessobords available that are designed to be hung without framing.

I can also understand that research is trial and error, often taking longer than hoped to come up with an invention that'll work. If it doesn't already exist, then inventing it takes a lot of creativity and some luck. I'll be patient, but I'm glad you're here to keep us advised as soon as it does come out!

Maria, that's a great first painting. One trick for adding more oil pastels if the surface is saturated - you can scrape away some of what's there before adding the patch of shadow color using any kind of scraper. A non serrated butter knife will work well for that. I use the blunt nail cleaner blade on my nail clippers all the time for scraping oil pastels, it's my favorite tool.

You can also scrape in tiny highlights sometimes, especially if your first layer under where the highlight's going to go is white or the light color you want the highlight to be. Last, if you let the painting sit for a few days, sometimes it hardens up a bit and you can add a couple more layers then that would just mix in if you'd added them sooner.

Hope these technique tips help! I'm going to have to do some more site articles soon, it's been a while.

RainySea
08-17-2010, 03:38 PM
During a recent show one of my paintings was hung above eye level and the glare and reflection from the overhead lighting obscured most of the painting.

Oh, Hal. . . I know how that must have made you feel as that SAME THING happened when my item was displayed at the exhibit in June. Folks had to look up at it and that made the glare so you had to move around the get an angle to see the various parts of the painting for the glare. UGH. :(

RainySea
08-17-2010, 03:43 PM
Robert and Vlad. . . both of your squirrels are lovely. both of you got really nice texture in the tree.

Sandra, lovely work on the car using red paper! And Maria, your is nice as well even if using student grade. And your first one, wow. . . very nice!

Pat Isaac
08-17-2010, 04:15 PM
Welcome to the forum, Maria.....:wave: Nice first OP with the student grades. Sometimes you can add more layers if you let the OPs set up overnight.

Pat

halthepainter
08-17-2010, 04:40 PM
Well done Maria.

halthepainter
08-17-2010, 05:33 PM
Since Bill gave us the Bird, I felt I should give the Bird right back at him.:evil:

The Bird was disturbed by Queen Vic glaring at him and I painted the Bird (Jonathan Seagull) as he arrived at his new location.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Aug-2010/140488-wc_OP_seagull.jpg

So Here's Johnny. (seagull that is)

I see I need to do more work on this. I didn't notice the tilted horizon until I loaded the photo into my computer.
I also had trouble with textures and I worked outside on my north facing deck this afternoon, 87 degree heat and my OPs got quite slick.

Anyway, I want to put this aside for a few days, so here it is: 11 by 14 inched, cream colored mat board, all Erengis.

As always suggestions welcome.

Pat Isaac
08-17-2010, 05:41 PM
:lol: Great take on the photo, Hal.... like his new location.

Pat

SunFace
08-17-2010, 10:00 PM
Thank you so much for the nice comments! You guys are too much!

Robert, that is an excellent tip. I can see myself using the knife in my oil paintings several times, so I totally understand what you are saying.

In fact, thanks everyone for the tips and warm welcome! :heart:



:grouphug:

paul444
08-18-2010, 08:43 AM
Dave...You did a great job with the reflections.

Hal... An excellent squirrel, That was a good idea to move his tail to the other side.

Sandra... Your car looks great.

Robert...Your squirrel is great. It looks like he's ready to pounce.

Vlad...A lovely squirrel, he looks very comfortable there.

Maria...Your car looks great. Excellent for a first with oil pastels.

Hal... A great gull, I like his new location.

Hope I haven't missed anyone, well done everybody. :thumbsup:

paul444
08-18-2010, 08:48 AM
Here is mine, I too decided to do the squirrel, seems a popular choice this month.:) . Anyway he was fun to do.
Its 6 X 8 on watercolour paper using Neopastels.



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2010/82968-4.jpg

halthepainter
08-18-2010, 08:52 AM
Beautifully done Paul. He's a real cutie.

IrishRose
08-18-2010, 09:40 AM
Hal, and Paul... love both of the paintings!

LOL Hal on "giving the bird" back to Bill!:lol:

Paul.. that pesky squirrel found his way into many hearts this month :)

davepuls
08-18-2010, 11:36 AM
Paul - great squirrel painting! I love the texture scratched into his tail and the colours on the branch are fantastic.

SunFace
08-18-2010, 05:17 PM
Hal and paul what can I say. I am amazed at what you guys can do with this medium!
:clap: :clap: :clap:

halthepainter
08-18-2010, 05:31 PM
Thank you Rosa and Maria.

VladK
08-18-2010, 09:23 PM
Hal, masterfully done, love your colors.
Paul, great work. I like how you did textures. And thank you for a feedback.

Scarefishcrow
08-18-2010, 11:48 PM
Sandra, amazing work and so rich colors.
Robert, great job on squirrel, I like contrast you've achieved. And nice try on fixative. I also tried some time ago and it worked perfectly. RG said it's gonna be new Sennelier glazing for OP, so it'll completely eliminate the need of under the glass framing.
Bill, thank you, now i have to attach my picture:wink2: sorry for being late - thought they'll fix it before

At last I can finally see your squirrel, Vlad. Great job on the textures of the tree and fur.

Scarefishcrow
08-19-2010, 12:05 AM
Welcome to the Forum, Maria. I think you did a great job for a first OP. Have you worked with other media before? One thing that is curious is that your car (it is a Hudson) is the reverse of the orientation in the picture and I wondered why?

Below is some info that might help you find your way around:
Just to help you get oriented to this place, click on the link in my signature line called <GO FIRST> (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7172380&postcount=1) and it will take you to a thread that contains links and overviews of all the subforums in this Channel and what is in each one. There are also links to basic OP info and guidelines about posting, critiques, etc.

The following link contains an annotated list of links by topic discussed for recent threads that deal with issues commonly asked by people starting out in OP. Looking through those with give you some additional insight into materials, techniques and various issues dealing with OP:

<FAQs LINKS> (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7494753&postcount=1)

That should save you some time searching around.

This place is great because there are people of all experience levels and we try to have everyone help everyone else. So if there is any way we can help, we will do our best to assist you.

If you have any questions, just start a thread in the OP Talk (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=432)forum and ask away. In the OP Talk forum is a weekly thread called the Oil Gusher which is a thread started each Monday that is a"no topic" thread. People can just say hi, let others know what's going on in their life, catch up on what going on with others, or just meet folks.

Hope you share the fun of working in OP with us! Lots of
Look forward to seeing your work around the forum!!

Welcome to the OP Family!

Bill:thumbsup:


Vlad gorgeous squirrel.


I am at owe since I worked on the car. is my first oil pastels, and I found them quite difficult to work with. I really appreciated Roberts website with all the juicy tips and recommendations.

I worked on the car (I have been calling it a Cadillac and I do not know what car it is! :lol: :D :lol: ) And I was really hesitant to post it, since is not all that good. I first blended all with mineral spirits, and then went back over it with the pastels.

I do not have good quality materials at all. Only the student grade type and I real thought that crayola crayons would have even be better!) I had got them for a college drawing class a long time ago because it was on the list, and always wanted to see if I could do something with them.

Anyway, here it is. I found it really hard to apply any values on it.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Aug-2010/154374-Car.jpg

Scarefishcrow
08-19-2010, 12:07 AM
Paul, Great job. Love the depth of color you got into this and the the wonderful textures.



Here is mine, I too decided to do the squirrel, seems a popular choice this month.:) . Anyway he was fun to do.
Its 6 X 8 on watercolour paper using Neopastels.



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2010/82968-4.jpg

Scarefishcrow
08-19-2010, 12:10 AM
Hal, as always you enliven the challenge with an interesting twist. I think it looks good. I'm not exactly sure where he is landing, but considering the came from the bar its a miracle he made it at all.:lol: :lol:

Since Bill gave us the Bird, I felt I should give the Bird right back at him.:evil:

The Bird was disturbed by Queen Vic glaring at him and I painted the Bird (Jonathan Seagull) as he arrived at his new location.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Aug-2010/140488-wc_OP_seagull.jpg

So Here's Johnny. (seagull that is)

I see I need to do more work on this. I didn't notice the tilted horizon until I loaded the photo into my computer.
I also had trouble with textures and I worked outside on my north facing deck this afternoon, 87 degree heat and my OPs got quite slick.

Anyway, I want to put this aside for a few days, so here it is: 11 by 14 inched, cream colored mat board, all Erengis.

As always suggestions welcome.

Pat Isaac
08-19-2010, 07:52 AM
Love that squirrel, Paul. The textures are wonderful.

Pat

Sandra39
08-19-2010, 04:12 PM
Hi All:
Being a new member, I am still jumping from place to place to look around. It's time to post an August Challenge OP. Hopefully I can upload the picture.

I chose the "reflection on a River" for a beautiful capturing of the reflections of the trees and bushes. I added a group of Swans frolicking in the river. Those who know me would probably have seen this Mother swan and her brood in watercolor medium before. But they were larger features on full size paper 11X15.
This time they are done as a miniature. The mother swan measures 1"W, 1.5"H; the little one in the front is 7/10"W, 1/2"H. The one at the rear end of the mother is miniscule. I had fun working on them.

Here it is:

Oil Pastel (Erangi and some Senn.) on Canson paper
Size 11"X16.5"
(Size is unusually long due to copy machine trying to capture a long photo.)
I will have to get customized mats to fit this one.

CXC Welcome.

Sandi

halthepainter
08-19-2010, 04:16 PM
Try again Sandi, use the mountain button at the top of the post box.

Sandra39
08-19-2010, 04:23 PM
Thanks Hal. It works this time. I added a cropped pic. so you can see the swans closer. Colors seem really darker than in the painting.
Sandi

halthepainter
08-19-2010, 04:30 PM
Sorry Sandi, perhaps somethings wrong with my access to the WC but I don't see your images?????:confused:

Turpintine45
08-19-2010, 07:31 PM
Hi Sandi I can see you. I love the Swans. This a lovely bright sunny painting. Jen

halthepainter
08-19-2010, 08:43 PM
Hi Sandi, I'm finally able to see your attachments. Lovely work, I like the swans.

SunFace
08-19-2010, 11:21 PM
Very nice Sandi. Job well done.:clap:

SunFace
08-19-2010, 11:54 PM
Thank you for the welcome Bill! :heart:

I really had a hard time with the piece. I changed the orientation because it looked odd to me the way it was. I liked the photo, but not the composition. I thought we could play with the images.:confused:

I have worked with oil paints before, and took some drawing classes. I am also struggling to learn soft pastels. I really love them, but sometimes dislike the dust. Oh well.

My total experience is less than 3 years, in any type of art. But I got so fascinated with it, that I want to try every media out there. Maybe that is a little crazy? :eek: I have found that my favorite medium, and the one I think I can produce better work are oil paints. I love the texture you can achieve with them and the end results. But I usually spend quite a bit of time with them, and go for days to finish a piece. I like to let layers dry, look at it, maybe worked it again. Other mediums such as the pastels, give the chance to do a relatively quick piece. Sometimes just for learning purposes.

I did have a phenomenal painting teacher for a couple of years, and took a couple of drawing classes in college. I will sure check out the links you gave me! But have learned mainly on my own and just coming to wet canvas.

I :heart: wet canvas and all the people in the forums! :grouphug:

davepuls
08-20-2010, 02:14 AM
Hi Sandi - welcome to the OP forum! Your reflections and swans painting is beautiful, I'm so glad you were able to post it here. Having tried this photo myself I realise it is harder than it looks! Keep up the good work!

VladK
08-20-2010, 09:49 AM
Hi Sandi, very well done, and the swans are gorgeous.

Scarefishcrow
08-20-2010, 12:31 PM
Sandi, Welcome to the Oil Pastel Channel and all its forums. I think you did a great job with the reflections and the swans add a great personal touch!

Hope to see you around lots and below is some info and links to help you understand all the resources available and where to go for what! Hope it is helpful.

Just to help you get oriented to this place, click on the link in my signature line called <GO FIRST> (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7172380&postcount=1) and it will take you to a thread that contains links and overviews of all the subforums in this Channel and what is in each one. There are also links to basic OP info and guidelines about posting, critiques, etc.

The following link contains an annotated list of links by topic discussed for recent threads that deal with issues commonly asked by people starting out in OP. Looking through those with give you some additional insight into materials, techniques and various issues dealing with OP:

<FAQs LINKS> (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7494753&postcount=1)

That should save you some time searching around.

This place is great because there are people of all experience levels and we try to have everyone help everyone else. So if there is any way we can help, we will do our best to assist you.

If you have any questions, just start a thread in the OP Talk (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=432)forum and ask away. In the OP Talk forum is a weekly thread called the Oil Gusher which is a thread started each Monday that is a"no topic" thread. People can just say hi, let others know what's going on in their life, catch up on what going on with others, or just meet folks.

Hope you share the fun of working in OP with us! Lots of
Look forward to seeing your work around the forum!!

Welcome to the OP Family!

Bill:thumbsup:


Hi All:
Being a new member, I am still jumping from place to place to look around. It's time to post an August Challenge OP. Hopefully I can upload the picture.

I chose the "reflection on a River" for a beautiful capturing of the reflections of the trees and bushes. I added a group of Swans frolicking in the river. Those who know me would probably have seen this Mother swan and her brood in watercolor medium before. But they were larger features on full size paper 11X15.
This time they are done as a miniature. The mother swan measures 1"W, 1.5"H; the little one in the front is 7/10"W, 1/2"H. The one at the rear end of the mother is miniscule. I had fun working on them.

Here it is:

Oil Pastel (Erangi and some Senn.) on Canson paper
Size 11"X16.5"
(Size is unusually long due to copy machine trying to capture a long photo.)
I will have to get customized mats to fit this one.

CXC Welcome.

Sandi

Sandra39
08-20-2010, 03:29 PM
Jen- I love you for being so loyal. I love all your pastel works too.

Hal-Appreciate your help and nice comments. It means a lot to me.
Love your white squirrel and the beautiful BG. Also the "Bird" and the sky colors. Look like he had found a nice new home.

Maria- Thanks for your nice words. I like your artwork on the Red Hudson. Colors are stunning. The way you turned it around makes the painting real fresh.

Davepuls-Sweet of you for welcoming me with nice & courteous words I am a fly who wants to die in honey!
Your "Reflection" is very strikingly beautiful with strong colors. I love it.

Vlad-Thanks a bunch . Love your beautiful squirrel. The yellow/green BG set the critter off nicely.

Bill- You are a great guide whom I can follow around! Thanks for nice comments and for interesting info. for newbie. I feel at home already.
And almost needless to say-your squirrel is very beautiful. I love all the artworks presented here.

Sandi

Pat Isaac
08-21-2010, 09:45 AM
Nicely done, Sandy and I like the addition of the swans, adds some interest to the landscape. Takes me a long toime to do an OP also for the same reasons.

Don't be a stranger.

Pat

Sandra39
08-21-2010, 02:25 PM
Pat- Thanks for your nice words. I for sure will try to participate more.
One question, anyone who may be able to explain:- I put in a few names on my buddy list and they sat there doing nothing. How do you work the buddy list? Is there a link to do something with it? Or it's just a list for you to have to remind yourself who are your buddies??:confused:

Sandi

halthepainter
08-21-2010, 04:38 PM
Good question Sandi. I also have added names to my buddy list in the hope that I would be alerted anytime they posted an image or started a thread. Alas nothing has happened. If there ever was a function for the buddies list, it seems to have been lost.

Sandra39
08-21-2010, 08:27 PM
Hal- Thanks for your info. I guess that's it. If it doesn't work then so be it.

BTW, I checked your link to your bio and albums, very impressive! Your works are gorgeous! My favorite is "Halarts" and inside I love them all but the favorite is "Boardwalk Autumn". It has softness balancing with strong colors in the right places. I like your treatment of all the skies. Beautiful.

Sandi

halthepainter
08-21-2010, 10:02 PM
Hal- Thanks for your info. I guess that's it. If it doesn't work then so be it.

BTW, I checked your link to your bio and albums, very impressive! Your works are gorgeous! My favorite is "Halarts" and inside I love them all but the favorite is "Boardwalk Autumn". It has softness balancing with strong colors in the right places. I like your treatment of all the skies. Beautiful.

Sandi

Thank you Sandi, you are most kind.:heart:

Scarefishcrow
08-22-2010, 01:39 PM
About the only thing it seems to do is place a + beside their name in the list of online members. You can quickly access you buddy list from the quick links selection in the bars at the top of the page.

Otherwise I can't seem to find any other functionality.

Bill
:wave:

oldrockchick
08-22-2010, 03:21 PM
Hi all finally got mine done....

Had to wait till it had set up a bit before I could scan it.


Here's my version of

'Reflections on a River'
A few DR, Neos etc, topped with Senns
On Gesso and CFIx primed WC CP heavyweight paper
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Aug-2010/179312-OP_Reflections_fin.jpg

Sandra39
08-22-2010, 03:54 PM
Lin- I like your color palette, beautiful and very pleasant to the eyes. Very nice.

Sandi

Sandra39
08-22-2010, 04:03 PM
Bill- Thanks for the info. but how do we get to the online members page. I found the Directory Page by clicking on Member Service that bring a drop down menu including Directory. When I scroll down the directory to see one of my buddies name, there is no + sign nor the bar quick link on top of the page. Maybe I was on the wrong place?

Sandi

halthepainter
08-22-2010, 04:09 PM
Bill- Thanks for the info. but how do we get to the online members page. I found the Directory Page by clicking on Member Service that bring a drop down menu including Directory. When I scroll down the directory to see one of my buddies name, there is no + sign nor the bar quick link on top of the page. Maybe I was on the wrong place?

Sandi

Sandi toward the top of this page, right side you'll see quick links. click on quick links and you'll see a buddy list. Anyone you previously designated as a buddy will show up there with any threads they've started.

Thank you Bill for the info. I found a buddy, I had forgotten about, whose paintings I love. I just perused about a dozen of his paintings since I last remembered to look him up.

Lin about time you posted here. Lovely palette. Great job.:thumbsup:

Sandra39
08-22-2010, 08:48 PM
Thank you both Hal and Bill. The Quick Link really works. You guys are so helpful!

Sandi

SunFace
08-22-2010, 09:33 PM
Lin, Beautifully done!

Scarefishcrow
08-23-2010, 10:29 PM
Lin, great job with the tree reflections. Looks like I will be pressed for time to get to do one of my own challenges!

But so far we've had some great participation and great works:clap:

hollyga
08-24-2010, 07:33 AM
HI Sandi & Lin - you both did beautiful work on these reflections on the water. Water continues to elude me - I guess I need to do a LOT of practice work. Wish I had time to do this months challenge - I would have tried this one. Sandi, your addition of the swan and signets added great interest to this scene! Lin, love your photos of last weekend's outing - looks like you had great fun and certainly got lots of good ref. photos. I went back thru a lot of your posted photos and can't remember if the pics of the smithy were in the current set or a past one, but I love them - - my DH would be all over that smithy in a heartbeat!

oldrockchick
08-24-2010, 08:03 AM
thanks holly and Bill

I do agree that the addition of the swans in your work give it an edge Sandy. It breaks up the reflections niocely. In the ref and my piece it just looks' upside down' lol so the4 swans give it a sense of direction.

Bill - come on, get ya finger out laddie!!! It's MY OP challenge next month so I'm hoping you will do that one!!

Boy have I got some fun in store for you guys... not difficult or too challenging - but FUN!

Pat Isaac
08-24-2010, 08:18 AM
Nicely done, Lin. I love this image and may have time to do it at some point.

Pat

VladK
08-24-2010, 11:20 AM
Lin, great work, nice colors.

Scarefishcrow
08-24-2010, 09:42 PM
Bill - come on, get ya finger out laddie!!! It's MY OP challenge next month so I'm hoping you will do that one!!

Boy have I got some fun in store for you guys... not difficult or too challenging - but FUN!
Lin, I hope so. My sister was here from the 11-22 and she helped me work on organizing my studio (:clap: You can actually see the floor and the top of the movable island) so I couldn't pass up the assist.

She left Sunday at some unearthly hour in the morning that I didn't realize existed. My stepdaughter arrived the following night at 11pm.

Have to work on getting the OPS newsletter out this week so I will look forward to finally using my studio space. Go easy on us!

Bill
:heart: :music: :heart:

P.S. As my days in my 50's dwindle down to a precious few as October 11th nears I suspect not many would call me a Laddie!

(what a shameless and blatant plug for my birthday; I'm sooooo ashamed. However not ashamed enough to delete it you noticed.)

Sandra39
08-25-2010, 11:01 AM
Holly- Thanks for nice words. You conquered the FIRE, of course you can conquer WATER, or anything else you put your mind in, I am sure.
Lin- Yes, I thought the photo, even though lovely, at times it looks like it's upside down too and that's why I put the swans in. Thanks for nice comments.
I've promised to participate more frequently but something comes up and I will have to be out of town for two-three weeks. Will try to peek in to check your challenges for Sept.
I am excited to see them. If I am lucky enough to come back home in time, I might have time to participate.

Thanks Bill for providing clever challenges for August.
Sandi

paul444
08-25-2010, 11:56 AM
Sandra... Lovely reflections, I to like the addition of the swans, it adds another dimension to the painting.

Lin... Beautiful reflections, nicely done.

Sandra39
08-25-2010, 05:18 PM
Thanks very much, Paul You are very kind.
Sandi

VladK
08-26-2010, 09:58 PM
Reflections: Senns and Erengis on 8"x10" charcoal paper
C&c are always welcome

Sandra39
08-26-2010, 11:22 PM
Vlad:- How pretty, I really like this. You made it almost like it's your own picture, not copy from the photo. Expanding the river bank and adding more colors works well. Love the pretty cloud reflections and the variety of greens on the tree branches. Well done.
Sandi

halthepainter
08-27-2010, 11:17 AM
Nice job Vlad, great textures.

stee71
08-27-2010, 12:35 PM
Bill my apologies for not getting much done this month, but well done to everyone else, i love seeing so many interpretations of the same source material. I started the reflections but will have to finish it next month (if i have time outside of work that is....drat the day job). for now here is the start i made, i'll post the finish if it ever happens :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Aug-2010/177539-IMG_4236_600_x_800.JPG

VladK
08-27-2010, 12:45 PM
Thank you Sandi and Hal.

Steve - good start

SunFace
08-27-2010, 12:57 PM
stee71 Very nice. I specially like the colors you used. Is like a whole different photo!


VladK Nice reflections too. What can I say? Beautifully done!

SunFace
08-27-2010, 01:01 PM
After reading on Bill's links, I decided to monster my courage and give it one more try.

I picked the seagull, but I did not want to get distracted with background, so I could concentrate on the bird and try to do better.

I have noticed that I do like to make an under painting, by blending with mineral spirits, and then going back on top. This time I used pastel paper, and I did not like it ... always prefer my bristol vellum.

Here it is. Please let me know what you all think. Did I use the sticks properly? I had a lot of trouble with detail.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Aug-2010/154374-Seagull.JPG

halthepainter
08-27-2010, 01:06 PM
Steve, fantastic job on the reflections.

Maria the birds looking good but did you give him an eagle's beak??? Perhaps I'm just not seeing right. (I'm old you know :confused::D )

Sandra39
08-27-2010, 04:27 PM
No, Hal, I think it has a little morsel of something in its beaks. Maria I like this bird, its wings are nicely fluffy.
Sandi

halthepainter
08-27-2010, 04:37 PM
No, Hal, I think it has a little morsel of something in its beaks. Maria I like this bird, its wings are nicely fluffy.
Sandi


Oh??? In that case I stand corrected. :cool: (symbol, in my case, doesn't represent "cool" but blind. ;) )

SunFace
08-27-2010, 10:42 PM
OMG so embarrassing. Yes, I totally miss the peak ... in my defense, while working on it I was starring at an eagle painting I am working on thinking what I would do next...:o

Thanks Sandi for coming in my defense! :heart: Hey, this is my second OP ever!

Bill, age is only in our minds! I have a friend that says that live realty starts at 50. :D

VladK
08-28-2010, 12:42 AM
Maria, nice bird:wink2: See, I don't call it eagle:lol:
Seriously, I really like your textures, great job.

Spice3514
08-28-2010, 05:34 AM
Dear everyone,
I'm sorry to say I havnt participated this month, no (acceptable) excuses, but I've really enjoyed seeing everyone's work. If I had found the time, it would have been the reflections picture but I have a question for those who painted it .....

Sandi, Vlad, Lin, Steve (and anyone else I inadvertently missed)

Did you turn the picture upside down to do the reflections?

Would love to know.

Best,

Pat Isaac
08-28-2010, 08:28 AM
Great start, Steve.
Like the color in the bird, Sandi and looks good against the blue sky.

Pat

halthepainter
08-28-2010, 10:20 AM
Bill, age is only in our minds! I have a friend that says that live realty starts at 50. :D

Maria, back in the dawn of television there was a TV show called "Live Begins at 80."
Don't you believe it, it's all propaganda.:rolleyes:

Sandra39
08-28-2010, 05:57 PM
Hal- Now you are one COOL man:cool:, not blind and I am a women advocate. We women never do anything wrong, we only forget to do it right! LOL.
Sandi:)

Sandra39
08-28-2010, 06:05 PM
Pat- Love to take the credit but the "Bird" was done by Maria.
Steve, You started off a nice painting. like to see when it's done.
Sandi

halthepainter
08-28-2010, 06:09 PM
I am a women advocate. We women never do anything wrong, .
Sandi:)


Sandi my wife would agree with this part of your last message.

It kind or reminds me of a movie about mountain men in the rockies. They claimed that they had never been lost, although they had been a mite confused for a couple of months. :D I'm always confused, it's a good thing I've always had a navigator or one type or another. :confused:

Sandra39
08-28-2010, 07:49 PM
Brenda- I did mine upside down as you see in the photo because I started painting from the trunks. There are connections of branches and limbs from the first big branches at the bottom trunks to the smaller ones at the top of the trees. (Which is what you see in the photo as the bottom of the picture). It's getting pretty confused, isn't it?
Sandi

Pat Isaac
08-28-2010, 07:53 PM
Sorry about that Sandi.....and Maria....took much on the brain sometimes. Not old, just multitasking.....:lol: :lol:

Pat

Scarefishcrow
08-28-2010, 09:23 PM
Vlad:Good job on the reflections and nice depth.

Steve: You need not apologize. You notice I haven't even gotten as far as you and I'm retired (BTW, Hal's right; don't believe that "Golden Years Stuff"; they ain't! You keep moving because if you stop you worry you might not get started again!:lol: )

Maria: So the beak's a little like an eagle's; the important thing is you took a chance and tried; the question is, did you enjoy doing it?? Nobody is a Van Gogh first few tries with a new medium. I think you did quite well and if you enjoyed it then hope you will grace us again in the future. (P.S., what is the medium you are working on the eagle painting in?? Just Curious.)

Hope I haven't missed anyone. If so please forgive me. Steve I look forward to your finished version. Not like the world's going to end if you finish after the end of the month! Always great to see you around and I know how much you love to paint trees!

Pat, it's ok. I've made worse mistakes than mixing names up. Look at it this way, it is nice to have so many people contributing (art or commentary) that we occasionally get names mixed up! It means we are doing well.

Can't wait to see what Lin has up her sleeve for September. Now that my studio is actually usable after so long maybe I can participate. Then again it looks so nice I hate to risk messing it up!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

Bill
:heart: :music: :music: :heart:

VladK
08-29-2010, 11:23 AM
Thank you Bill. Great challenge it was.

Sandra39
08-29-2010, 09:18 PM
Vlad & Bill I second that!
Sandi

hollyga
08-30-2010, 05:27 AM
Bill, it was a great challenge month! Sorry I couldn't participate - too much life got in the way this month and not enough time left over for art. Everyone did a fantastic job!

SunFace
08-30-2010, 09:42 PM
Thanks everyone for such nice comments. I am encourage to try some more.

Bill I mostly work with oil paints, but have learned to love soft pastels too. I think an artist should have some knowledge of all media! Or am I too ambitious?

Scarefishcrow
08-30-2010, 10:21 PM
Thanks everyone for such nice comments. I am encourage to try some more.

Bill I mostly work with oil paints, but have learned to love soft pastels too. I think an artist should have some knowledge of all media! Or am I too ambitious?

Absolutely NOT! I wholly agree and believe that you learn things in one medium that you can use innovatively in another.

I also think it keeps your perpsective and work fresh if you take breaks from one medium and work with another periodically.

You also need to develop a sound understanding of what each medium can do and what it cannot; also what the best practices are for using various media. So often people launch out without understanding what the limits of various media are that will insure their works have a good chance of surviving through time!

Bill
:heart: :music: :heart:

Pat Isaac
08-31-2010, 08:08 AM
I totally agree....and I often work in other media not just OPs though they are my fav. Many artists I know work in other media from time to time.

pat

oldrockchick
08-31-2010, 08:54 AM
Dear everyone,
I'm sorry to say I havnt participated this month, no (acceptable) excuses, but I've really enjoyed seeing everyone's work. If I had found the time, it would have been the reflections picture but I have a question for those who painted it .....

Sandi, Vlad, Lin, Steve (and anyone else I inadvertently missed)

Did you turn the picture upside down to do the reflections?

Would love to know.

Best,

No, I did mine the right way up.

I' never invert. I think if I did the relfections would be too 'perfect' and then not realistic to being reflections. i like the margin or errors from workign upside down. Although oddly enough I must be half- Australian as I find I can see images and even read writing that is upside down, in fact when needs be I can sketch maps and write upside down ..... am I weird ?

Anyway... I'll post the new OP Challenge later tonight so it is ready for first thing in the morning (as I'll be in bed still :lol: ) For thsoe wishing to make an early start.

Thansk for hosting this month and the cool refs Bill.:thumbsup:

halthepainter
08-31-2010, 09:15 AM
Bill thanks for hosting. You did great especially since you had to come in on an emergency basis. I enjoyed your challenges. :thumbsup:

Mmadsen
09-01-2010, 07:16 PM
Sorry folks no time, no time. But here's my express attempt:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Sep-2010/131193-op_Aug_Challenge.JPG

on masonite 5" x 7" board with senns mostly . . .

Happy September, can you believe it?

Mark

GOSH
09-11-2010, 05:42 PM
Mark, that's beautiful.

Pat Isaac
09-11-2010, 05:44 PM
Really like the painterly feel in this painting.

Pat

oldrockchick
09-12-2010, 09:33 AM
Very very nice Mark

Sandra39
09-12-2010, 12:55 PM
Mark- Very, very nice. I love the way you did the water. And this is an express painting? I love to see when you paint at leisure.
Sandi

robertsloan2
09-21-2010, 02:42 PM
Mark, that's so beautiful. Love that scene.