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kevinwueste
08-03-2010, 12:41 AM
I thought we might try something a bit different ( wait I did do the clowns so OK fine) and put some classic cast/sculpture heads up for the August Challenge. Much of the Classical Atelier learning process begins with very careful charcoal, graphite and painted studies of such casts, so - how about us ?

I believe there is so much we can learn from working on these shapes! In fact, if you get the chance to work from one in life, so much the better but this can be a good introduction. Most of these are from the Metropolitan Museum in NYC, USA or the Grand Central Academy in Midtown Manhattan where I recently attended a workshop. All of their students study from casts for the first year of school. It's very intense but the work is amazing.

Good luck, I hope you will have fun!


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2010/164138-Cast_One.jpg

Below - a Rodin of course, my idol..



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2010/164138-cast_four_rodin.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2010/164138-cast_seven.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2010/164138-cast_five.jpg

the Sculpture below was in the American Wing but I apologize for not getting artists' names for so many of these. Stunning nonetheless!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Aug-2010/164138-Cast_Two.jpg


http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../Community/images/02-Aug-2010/164138-cast_six.jpg

roy-p
08-03-2010, 06:23 AM
Delicious! Screengrabbed the bunch

llawrence
08-03-2010, 10:15 AM
Very nice lighting on some of these, they'll be perfect for studies. Going for the charcoal...

skappy
08-03-2010, 03:17 PM
I ll be there with watercolors
Robert

jennf
08-03-2010, 10:26 PM
Lovely! And much more fun than clowns, IMHO. ;)

Looking forward to these. Thanks for organizing this, Kevin.

Jennifer

trevors
08-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Thanks Kevin here is my first effort 22 x 30 inch watercolour paper ( thought it was rives) :rolleyes:

Charcoal.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Aug-2010/105971-statuepost.jpg

Lauren F-M
08-04-2010, 06:17 PM
Delicious! Screengrabbed the bunch

DITTO! :thumbsup:

This is a great idea, Kevin! :clap:
Looking forward to trying a few of these. Good late-summer practice between bouts of eating fresh corn on the cob. :rolleyes:

kevinwueste
08-05-2010, 04:29 PM
Trevor that is cool! I am working on two of them over the next day or 4.. kw

Lauren F-M
08-06-2010, 09:55 AM
Trevor -- wonderful (pastel?) of the lady to start us off this month! :clap:

trevors
08-06-2010, 12:30 PM
Thanks Mr K maybe I will try another?
Thanks Laren its supposed to be charcoal and some of it is vine and the lighter tones are labelled compressed charcoal grey selection but its not the same texture as pastel or charcoal!

roy-p
08-06-2010, 12:41 PM
Trevor... wow! This is impressive :clap: :clap:

MSegev
08-07-2010, 01:00 AM
Kevin, your references are invaluable for skill enhancement of any aspiring artist - many thanks for sharing! Hey, you're already a great asset for the WC community and soon will be a fantastic educator.
My favorite is n.3 but really wish I could give them all a try. Can't tell when unfortunately, since I have some annoying work to finish first.

pintor
08-08-2010, 01:46 PM
Here are my drawings done on a 8 1/2 x 11 in. toned paper using a mechanical pencil, a #2 pencil, and a white colored pencil.

Here are two handsome guys:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2010/96813-gordo.jpg (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Uploader/upload_image_save2.php#)http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2010/96813-oldie.jpg (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Uploader/upload_image_save2.php#)
And one very beautiful lady :thumbsup: !!!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2010/96813-diana.jpg (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Uploader/upload_image_save2.php#)

Marianne S
08-08-2010, 06:44 PM
Hi Kevin,
Your work is truly amazing, spent most of Sunday at your blog site. Fantastic figures, if only I could be that good!! Here is my humble effort of the first image, done by bad light last night, charcoal pencil on cartridge paper. Marianne
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Aug-2010/22527-DSCF0216.JPG

Marianne S
08-08-2010, 06:49 PM
posted twice in error

bluebirder
08-09-2010, 10:09 AM
Just had to have an attempt at this fellow, oil on paper 7x10 inches http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Aug-2010/118046-DSCN9892.jpg
just prussian blue and white
Steve

Yako
08-09-2010, 02:18 PM
Hi! i'm new here :) :wave: . I've been lurking for a while. These are my first postings here, i usually post only in the digital forum.

Portraiture is not my strength but i want to give it a try. I think here i can learn a bit. Crits are welcome (but please be light these are my first steps in this area) The lady is done with 2B pencil & and bond paper. The nude is done digitally with a wacom tablet and procreate painter classic mainly pencil and watercolors

Marianne S
08-09-2010, 09:04 PM
Looking at my drawing in the cold light of day, I realise that I've completely missed his left ear, not to mention the shadows. :lol:
Marianne

mianong
08-10-2010, 01:56 AM
I am in awe of the rendering that is learned in a classical atelier. I would love to know how to take my relatively quick (three hours?) 12x8 oil on paper painting to something that the academy would accept.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Aug-2010/205642-cast_painting.jpg

Any pointers, books, criticisms would be appreciated. I am interested in "Classic Still Life Painting" by Jane Jones. Has anyone read this?

Thanks again for the great references,
Max

Also, I couldn't resist sketching the figure in the background.

doppler
08-10-2010, 10:31 PM
Great refs Kevin and excellent work so far!!:clap: :clap:

This is my take on one - 1/4 sheet Arches rough and transparent watercolour

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2010/141006-busted1wc.jpg

Somehow I've made him look more snooty than grim!

Lulu
08-11-2010, 12:55 AM
wow, what fun!
and thanks so much for the ref images Kevin, has been an opportunity for me to 'play'.
About 10 x 8" 'something' rough, and W&N yellow ochre, indian red and Windsor blue.

This guy made me scared just painting him! lol

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Aug-2010/1118-OlGrumpyBumAug11.JPG

doppler
08-11-2010, 03:53 AM
Looking GREAT Lulu!

123harry
08-11-2010, 04:09 AM
Good work appearing here.
mianong: I particularly like the stone rendering in your study, captures the expression of the bust too.

mianong
08-12-2010, 08:42 AM
123harry, thanks for the critique.

I agree there is lots of great work here. I think I would like to try another (maybe in charcoal ) and attempt to emulate the great classical cast drawings. I've got to develop more patience and knowing how to correct mistakes without destroying my paper.

Also, the Met has a great database on its website.
http://www.metmuseum.org/works_of_art/collection_database/

I just found out the little boy is "Emile Gauguin, the Artist's Son, as a Child" - Paul Gauguin

Hopefully by next week I will be able to post another.

kevinwueste
08-12-2010, 08:14 PM
I'm glad you are all having fun with my Met/GCA photos! I am in the midst of a W.I.P. on this one.. just lots to sort out still.. this is tiny about 4" or so head size.. all hb and 6b graphite in my sketchbook while watching tv :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Aug-2010/164138-cast_drawing_8_12_10.jpg

doppler
08-12-2010, 11:24 PM
Fabulous sketch Kevin !!
Here's my take on that one ... the epicure ...
1/4 sheet Arches rough ... transparent watercolour.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Aug-2010/141006-The-epicureWC.jpg

C and C welcome.

Lulu
08-12-2010, 11:31 PM
I really like that Kevin!
And Annie, wowee! fantastic! and how on earth did you do that background in w/c???

doppler
08-13-2010, 01:39 AM
Lulu thanks ... there's an underpainting of permanent alizarin crimso/burnt sienna mix then when dry ... sepia over the top. And again in the darker bottom parts.

roy-p
08-13-2010, 08:25 AM
I'm in a bit of an awe at the wonderful work posted so far, and kind of hesitant to post this Conte Carbone piece :eek: ... I really need to attempt it a second time, and the rest of the refs too, just not finding the opportunity (so far). Ugh..!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2010/148165-pc1-aug2k10.jpg

Thanks so much for looking anyway :)

kevinwueste
08-13-2010, 04:08 PM
Prosenjit - love it - what are you worried about mate ??

Annie - love it -f eels like stone ! there are so many shapes in this head that's why I love it and the sad feel of the tilt of his head and gaze.. You have captured that nicely .. His nose might be a tad long but it doesn't take anything away from the piece.. one thing is - you have chosen a few very hard edges/transitions for the terminator shadows ( core shadows) vs the softer, rolling turns on the form.. is that an aesthetic decision - if yes - cool - if not, they are all so much softer and will help build form..

Lulu - very soft and subtle - nice!!

Mianong - really lovely soft rendering !!

kevinwueste
08-13-2010, 07:37 PM
More work on the dude.. I am including an upside down view to show how light logic can be easily checked ( when the light is from above, say, it will be brightest at the top followed by a decay of light as it flows down the forms..)

and weirdly - things can look good upside down too! Art people also use this to check for shapes and correct proportions/perspective..

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2010/164138-cast_v_2_resize_upside_down_view.JPG

the tv sofa drawing environment is not optimal !

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2010/164138-cast_3_resize.JPG

and the current - right side up! I still plan to work on the transitions some more.. good practice!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2010/164138-cast_v_2_resize.JPG

bethanyt
08-14-2010, 03:25 AM
Beautiful, Kevin!

123harry
08-14-2010, 04:51 AM
More good stuff. These busts are good subjects! Masterly pencil study, Kevin. What sort of paper is that in your sketchbook?

WC Lee
08-14-2010, 06:46 AM
here's my quick sketch attempt on newsprint .. though I did start to render it more but just couldn't keep my interest into finishing it :D think I kind of slimmed it down too much

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Aug-2010/122017-charcoal_20100814_bust_sketch_12x9.jpg

Bella Jo
08-14-2010, 09:58 AM
Hi. This is my attempt at one of the busts. (Graphite pencil in sketchbook). As soon as I scanned my drawing it looked awful to me. Edges too hard and not enough variation in values I think. Also I have lost the boy's soft expression. Hmmm, back to the drawing board....http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Aug-2010/218071-003.jpg Any help greatly appreciatled.
Thanks.

kevinwueste
08-14-2010, 08:54 PM
More good stuff. These busts are good subjects! Masterly pencil study, Kevin. What sort of paper is that in your sketchbook?

Thanks Harry ( and BEthany !) - this is Strathmore field drawing - not paper I would recommend for this type of work but it was.. handy ? :o

HEre is perhaps my final update on this.. lots of tiny increments of work may be hard to see on the screen but I'll post because I put so much time in!! about 15 hours or so now.. more..

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Aug-2010/164138-cast_v2_8_14_version_a.JPG

bethanyt
08-14-2010, 10:31 PM
I can certainly see the advantages to this model- no fidgeting, no enquiries as to warm/cool/comfort, no breaks for food, no need to pay! Ha ha!

doppler
08-15-2010, 02:27 AM
Here's another ... cropped from 1/4 sheet - didn't like the rest. I'm not real happy with this one ... face and shadows wrong ... breasts a plastic surgeons delight.
Watercolour

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Aug-2010/141006-Statue3wc.jpg

...Kev ... thanks ... watercolour is always an accident ... waiting to happen, happening ... there!

Love your epicure and your mini-demo above.

roy-p
08-15-2010, 05:07 AM
Annie, that is a super watercolor! :thumbsup:

Kevin, thanks - I need to learn to keep pegging at a drawing until its as near as possible to how I'd ideally want it to be. I have this low freshness threshold, which is entirely arbitrary and subjective - if I go beyond that I quickly lose all focus/interest in the drawing. Nevertheless, I've tried to keep working at it, but the dominant mood during such times is that I'm basically doing patch-up work on something already un-salvageable, and that I'd better throw it away and pick up another sheet. Of course the paper one uses is an important part in this process, as cheaper papers will not be able to take prolonged work.

But its really worth one's repertoire to learn the skill of slowly building up a drawing, in layers of progressive details. The patience, the ability to keep focused is as much a part of one's skill set as other, more tangible abilities.

As regards worries, I'm disgusted at this ones lack of freshness - ugh! Wonderful exercise, that 15 hours journey you've undertaken.

skappy
08-17-2010, 08:32 AM
Nice charcoal take Trevor

Jose I like the combination of graphite and white

Marianne your drawing is good

Nice monochrome Steve

Kareen I cant see your picture it does'nt shoe up I think i'm not alone you should repost it

Annie both portraits are very good nice strong contast and not muddy

Max I Like the textures you'v e got this is very good

Lulu this is a very nice soft watercolor I wanted to do something light and
ended up with a pile of mud

Nice sketch Prosenjit

Masterful graphite Kevin and thanks for the tip

Lee you've a great start and should go back to it

Bella Jo it is never a lost of time you've got more experience you can only get better welcome in the club

Annie I agree with you this last one could be deadly you've got some nice shadows colors

Robert

skappy
08-17-2010, 08:46 AM
Now it is my turn

This is watercolor size A3 I started with light clean washes on the statue and when I added the backgound i lost some of the shape [ I do not use drawing gum] then I started fiddling around modify and so on trying to get something out of it and ended up with a pile of mud, headache and that out of proportions:) so I tried to add the light and glass roof to distract a bit and play more with washes ans shadows:lol: the bin being ful I finaly decided to post it
It is not a lost of time I hope I ll be better next time
Robert:cat:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Aug-2010/157927-P992.jpg

doppler
08-17-2010, 07:19 PM
Looks very good to me Robert! You've definitely got a much better likeness and roundness of form than I.
Love your roof too :thumbsup: and your description of the working :lol: .

skappy
08-18-2010, 02:46 AM
Thanks very much Annie I just got up and having coffee I did'nt go in my studio yet the painting looks better on the screen that what I remenber of it.That is true the roof is a good distraction at least there is something straight:lol:
I agree with you for the accidents with watercolor you do not always do what you want but sometime what you can and some accidents can do it for you it is like fishing you have to be patient and optimistic:)
Robert:cat:

123harry
08-18-2010, 05:15 AM
Annie: I think you've analysed the shadows well, not easy to do with this subject.

Robert: You've captured the marble solidity of that figure. I like the subtle tones too.

goodmang
08-18-2010, 09:14 PM
Hi everyone, this is my first posting on the Portraiture forum. I had a great time with this challenge. I still need to finish many of the areas, but I thought I would post this version...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Aug-2010/71862-IMG_0735.jpg

gingersnap
08-18-2010, 09:24 PM
Hello

Kevin thank you for the great references.

The work on the challenge for this month is fantastic!! You all inspired me to pick up my pencil after a long hiatus. I did the male bust . 2 hours work. could continue, but may choose another. I do not know how to re-size my photo. No image. :(

ginger

skappy
08-19-2010, 02:54 AM
Thanks Harry I just start to feel better about it as it is not in front of me anymore with the original reference

Nice job Greg

Robert

Journeyman
08-19-2010, 08:28 AM
Thanks for the excellent photos Kevin. Here is my version of the stoney faced man.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2010/95424-August_Portrait_Challenge_01.jpg
Willow charcoal and white chalk.

Donít think I captured that stone look :wave: Dave

gingersnap
08-19-2010, 02:04 PM
dave this is fantastic!!! ginger

kevinwueste
08-19-2010, 02:10 PM
Dave he does have the "stone" feel! Ginger - if you have windows ( at least in the past 5 years or so) you can pull up your image in Microsoft Office Picture Manager and select "resize" from the "Picture" menu item, type in 800 and 800 in the boxes, hit "ok" and save.. now you are ready to post. Photoshop, PS elements, painter and art rage all have features to do this as does the image tools on a Mac. Does that help?

MSegev
08-19-2010, 03:22 PM
Oh, wow, so many great entries, a real pleasure!
Kevin, that's an obvious portfolio keeper, outstanding! I wonder if the photo isn't too dark, judging by the white of the paper.
I'm still stuck with commissions, so it doesn't look like I'll get to any of the challenge references.

gingersnap
08-19-2010, 07:10 PM
Hi,

It took 2 hours of learning photoshop /uploading here to get this image on.... I seriously need a computer course!

2b pencil. 2 hours. I realize there are proportion issues. Oddly, I drew him to look like my hub's uncle.... I guess subconsciously I thought they looked alike!

I really enjoyed this exercise. I am seeing some patience and growth. This is the best place to learn.

Kevin , thanks for the photoshop suggestion.

Here it goes.....ginger



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2010/104994-augustportrait.jpg (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Uploader/upload_image_save2.php#) http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2010/104994-augustportrait.jpg (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/Uploader/upload_image_save2.php#)

Journeyman
08-19-2010, 07:11 PM
Two wonderful watercolours Annie and Robert such a difficult medium and you have both mastered it :)

What medium have you used Greg it looks very 3D? Almost like you have made it of plaster!

Hi Ginger and Kevin :wave:

Good to see lots of old friends on this thread and some marvellous work :thumbsup: Dave
PS
You must have posted while I was replying Ginger :) Nice job

Kayelny
08-20-2010, 03:25 AM
Here is my first submission to Portrait challenge: Boy in Orange and Green. I love painting and drawing statues. Thanks for the reference photos. Watercolor 10X14 Arches 140 CP; Windsor Newton burnt umber, burnt sienna, fr. ultramarine, Windsor Blue. The Photo does not capture the rich shades of greens in the back ground...

C&C Welcome. Thanks for looking...

gingersnap
08-20-2010, 09:16 AM
Kayelny, watercolor is a tough medium!!! This is great! ginger

Striver
08-20-2010, 11:00 AM
Excellent subjects
Les

Kayelny
08-20-2010, 06:46 PM
thank you ginger

kevinwueste
08-20-2010, 06:53 PM
Ginger - you got the sense of him for sure..

Kayelny - some nice rich colors in your watercolor - reminds me of Dali a bit..

doppler
08-20-2010, 08:27 PM
Greg, Dave,Ginger and Kayelny ... these are looking GREAT!!!

Kayelny
08-20-2010, 09:53 PM
Thank you Kevin and Doppler. May I just say that I really like everyone's postings!

123harry
08-22-2010, 07:12 AM
This is difficult! I'm going to call it a draw now. I think you could profitably spend a year on this one. Well set, Kevin!
This is an experiment. A number of people have posted work on this forum done using grisailles and glazing. I thought I'd try this by painting the red and blue tones in the grisaille and adding the yellow tones in glazes.
This is the grisaille. I'll get the glazing done and post the result.

Grisaille Aphrodite

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Aug-2010/186003-WC_Venus_1.JPG

skappy
08-22-2010, 07:04 PM
Great start Harry Im looking ofward to see it finished
Robert

gingersnap
08-22-2010, 07:11 PM
Harry
I know you said you are doing more, but I really love it as is! Ginger

kevinwueste
08-23-2010, 01:10 AM
Harry- looks great man!!!

Fleffyjen
08-23-2010, 05:45 PM
Well done, Harry, great atmosphere and shine already!

Violetta
08-26-2010, 05:01 PM
Some really wonderful work has been posted in this challenge and as I'm very new to portraiture, I will only say how much I have enjoyed each and every one. Well done all!

At first I wasn't going to enter this challenge, since I've only painted one portrait, but as the month went on, I found myself drawn more and more to one particular image--Rodin's young woman. As you may already know, Rodin did this particular piece for an elegant young aristocratic lady, Anna-Elizabeth de Noiailles, a poet, an intellectual and the daughter of a princess. However, he made no attempt to soften her prominent nose and as a result, she refused the piece. Rodin then titled the piece, "Madame X."

Here is my rendition of Madame X, done in pink and white, with a slight change in her hairstyle. This is 9 x 12 on Arches #140 CP and I used white gouache with alizarin crimson watercolor. Since this is a learning experience for me, I would appreciate any and all comments and suggestions. Thanks!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Aug-2010/102127-Madame_X_resized.jpg

treeshark
08-26-2010, 07:48 PM
This is such a fine looking fellow I couldn't resist a quick stab at him.

http://www.treeshark.com/BlogPosts/Drawing/Head1.jpg

123harry
08-26-2010, 08:24 PM
Judy: That lady has character! I like her haughty but slyly amused expression.

Rob:Vigorous characterisation. Great sketch. I liked your website too.

123harry
08-28-2010, 06:19 AM
Mmm.....I'm not entirely convinced about this! I've done some glazing with raw sienna, crimson and violet. I don't think I'll do any more as it's getting a bit murky...leave well enough alone! Interesting experiment anyway.

Aphrodite

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Aug-2010/186003-YAphrodite.JPG

MSegev
08-29-2010, 01:10 AM
Wow, very impressive work from everyone :)
Dave and Ginger, I'm especially proud of you guys, great job!
Treeshark and Harry, I would say quite spectacular!

Bella Jo
08-29-2010, 02:50 AM
Hi everyone. I have really enjoyed all the great work posted. Thankyou for the references Kevin and thanks for the encouragement Skappy. This is my reworked effort. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Aug-2010/218071-August_10_012.JPG
Andrea.

pauldavidartnewyork
08-29-2010, 11:15 AM
"Aphrodite At The Met", Oil on Canvas, 8" X 11" . Hi, this is my first art posting here at WetCanvas. I've been painting for for one year and a week now, since my wife bought me an oil painting set for my birthday (THANKS sweetheart!). I recently photographed this same statue in the American Wing of The Met myself, to try to paint it someday...but when my wife found it was this month's challenge, and painted it herself in watercolors to post here, I figured I'd also give it a go too! I did it in just a week, to get it in before this week's submission deadline, so this is the fastest I've ever completed something (although I still may correct this or that). My palette for this work consisted of Permalba white, W&N flake white, raw & burnt umber & sienna (all Williamsburg), cad red light (Utrecht), alizarin crimson (W&N), violet (Maimeri Puro), ultramarine blue (Williamsburg), pthalo blue (Grumbacher), cobalt blue deep (M Puro) & Azure blue (Sennelier). [all single pigments except azure & violet]. I try to limit my colors when I start a painting, but always end up ending up adding a few as I go. Thanks for looking! (C&C welcome).

Kayelny
08-29-2010, 12:05 PM
checking out the postings again: Violetta, Harry, Kevin, Doppler, WC Lee, Bella Jo - 2nd version is great!, Skappy, goodmanG and journeyman - these are all great works. I learned alot from each of your works. Thank you so much for sharing!
pauldavid- glad you finally posted something! you should upload more of your artwork and get involved in this great site~!!

roy-p
08-29-2010, 12:09 PM
Thank you so much for your comments, kind folks of portraiture! :) As usual, I'm in thrall of the quality of work posted here, and Kevin's pics undoubtedly has an important role to play in this. So its an all round :clap:

Here's a conte sanguine sketch of the man with the fierce expression, in about 2 hours, after which I painted it over with soft pastels. On A3 size paper

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Aug-2010/148165-contehead-aug2k10.jpg

The pastel...

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr327/roy-p/sk/pastelhead-1024-aug2k10.jpg

Has been a great month of challenge, wish I could've contributed more.

llawrence
08-29-2010, 03:48 PM
Great work on these, everyone - Kevin, I'm in awe of your skills.

Here is mine, finally - I didn't wind up using charcoal, but a single ordinary mechanical pencil so I could work on it at work. :D - so it's about 1/2 value range. 9X12, cropped quite a bit. See the coffee stain? - adds character, I think. :thumbsup:

kevinwueste
08-29-2010, 05:39 PM
Llawrence - coffee is like ready-made patina! He has a stone-y feel - very nice.
Prosenjit - Great works and I like how you are unabashed at taking these things in your own directions!
Paul David (artwork) - really nicely done and his this Met "glow" - i think the background is effective as well. Nice shapes and some good soft
transitions! Your painting could benefit ( to these eyes) from continued attention to the turns of form on the head ( nose, eye brow ridges, sockets) - I think it can only get to the next level but it is very nice at this stage! Keep an eye on the relative chroma(s) in the sculpture - they will stay more gray than I am seeing here.
Bella Jo /Andrea - very nicely done! a great attitude is in that drawing!
Harry - still has goodness going on - keep at it! ( I say!)
Treeshark - a nice structural drawing for sure! Glad to see your participation!
Judy/Judith - this is a wonderful, subtle beginning - I wonder if you pushed some of the forms just a bit more - could you realize the shifting forms and dimension of this Rodin Madam X ?

doppler
08-30-2010, 06:15 AM
Here's my last busted head .. took way too long for me ..
Watercolour 1/8th sheet .. about A4
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Aug-2010/141006-Last-busted-wc.jpg

It's been a great challenge Kevin .. thank you!!!

pauldavidartnewyork
08-30-2010, 11:40 AM
Thank you very much for your compliments and critiques, Kevin! Aphrodite's face does need more work for sure. I think I also need more value gradation under her right arm, especially coming around to the side of the breast. Could you take a moment, if you have a spare one, to elaborate a bit more on your CHROMA suggestion? Thanks again, and I look forward to taking more challenges!

MSegev
08-30-2010, 11:43 AM
Whoa Prosenjit, both are great and full of drama, but for some reason the first one strikes me particularly powerful. There is so much character in that face!

Pauldavidartnewyork (Paul?) welcome to WC! What a great, skillful, entry. Hope to see more in the future.

Bella Jo and Annie, very nice!

pauldavidartnewyork
08-30-2010, 12:33 PM
Hi Mary,

Thank you so much! I will certainly keep my eye out for interesting challenges to submit in the future. I've peeked into your blog, and I love your renditions of classics! I've done some late 18th century copies myself (Sargent, Chase, Pratt Bobbs, etc), and hope to someday reach your league! I especially love your Ingres Rothschild. Thanks again for the encouragement.

kevinwueste
08-30-2010, 12:43 PM
Thank you very much for your compliments and critiques, Kevin! Aphrodite's face does need more work for sure. I think I also need more value gradation under her right arm, especially coming around to the side of the breast. Could you take a moment, if you have a spare one, to elaborate a bit more on your CHROMA suggestion? Thanks again, and I look forward to taking more challenges!
Paul - I would say the HUE family is a bit brown-y yellow shifted in your painting ( don't get me wrong it's good stuff and for 1 year you are doing great!).. the thing about these "white" casts/sculptures is their colors tend to be always some family of gray and usually, the colors (hue) are in close proximity to each other with very subtle chroma ( color intensity shifts). The biggest chroma swings are very subtle here - going from the pink-y-gray family to the gray-blue-violet reflected lights of, well the lighting in the place/ceiling skylights and blue overtones of the background. In painting, we have three key tools at our beck and call: Hue ( the color), Value ( the brightness and darkness of the forms) and Chroma ( color intensity). I used a "D" to represent your H/V/C choices in a few locations in the image comparison below to amplify this response ( or clarify or really screw up what I am trying to say!).

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Aug-2010/164138-Met_Casts_compare.jpg

Also, the side-by-side view can help us see how subtle those light to dark transitions really are ( that's what makes this so very NOT EASY!!)..
I hope that makes sense! -Kevin

kevinwueste
08-30-2010, 12:47 PM
Annie/Doppler - excellent shapes and the play of light is -- wow!

Violetta
08-30-2010, 06:48 PM
Thank you everyone who commented on my "Madame X". I have learned so very much from viewing everyone's entry, reading the comments and from doing my own piece. Despite previously swearing I wouldn't attempt portraiture, after now completing my second portrait, I'd say I'm hooked. I guess it just goes to show, "Never say never." :D

Thanks for this challenge and for your suggestion, Kevin.

Judy/Judith - this is a wonderful, subtle beginning - I wonder if you pushed some of the forms just a bit more - could you realize the shifting forms and dimension of this Rodin Madam X ?

I've deepened the shading and can see greater dimension, something I'll carry forward into the next portrait.

kevinwueste
08-30-2010, 07:35 PM
Thank you everyone who commented on my "Madame X". I have learned so very much from viewing everyone's entry, reading the comments and from doing my own piece. Despite previously swearing I wouldn't attempt portraiture, after now completing my second portrait, I'd say I'm hooked. I guess it just goes to show, "Never say never." :D

Thanks for this challenge and for your suggestion, Kevin.



I've deepened the shading and can see greater dimension, something I'll carry forward into the next portrait.

Judy - that's great to hear about your new world of drawing/painting people! Please feel free to post your update if you like as well!!

Kevin

Kayelny
08-30-2010, 08:15 PM
Re PaulDavid art picture - having seen the real life painting - I have to say because pauldavid did not -that the photo does not truly show the colors in real life (IRL). some how the colors IRL are different. It is difficult to get an accurate photo of artwork sometimes...the real painting has a blue rather than a brown tendency...IMHO

Violetta
08-30-2010, 09:08 PM
Here is my update for Rodin's Madame X. I had some difficulty getting the shading softened enough. I kept picking up the underlying gouache. It's not perfect but it's certainly been a learning experience. Thanks!


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Aug-2010/102127-Madame_X_redo_2.jpg

Seeing it on the screen I can see the shadow on her neck is probably too dark toward the center and not graduated enough going down to her shoulder. Like I said, a real learning experience.

kevinwueste
08-31-2010, 12:12 AM
Re PaulDavid art picture - having seen the real life painting - I have to say because pauldavid did not -that the photo does not truly show the colors in real life (IRL). some how the colors IRL are different. It is difficult to get an accurate photo of artwork sometimes...the real painting has a blue rather than a brown tendency...IMHO
I hear you - it is so often the way with photography..

Violetta/Judy - all progress - and the analysis will help you push through toward new things ( there are always new problems to solve in drawing and painting - especially of people!)

lovin art
08-31-2010, 02:38 AM
Beautiful work Guys and Dolls!!

spose Im to late now Sir K, the months over and all.........sulk sulk...:( :D

Hang on,' I still have till midnight my time !!!:evil:

llawrence
08-31-2010, 03:02 AM
You've got all the way till tomorrow, Sandra - let's see it!

roy-p
08-31-2010, 03:29 AM
Thanks a tonne - Lawrence, Kevin, Mary.... It has been a wonderful month!

lovin art
08-31-2010, 03:33 AM
You've got all the way till tomorrow, Sandra - let's see it!

:lol: your on Louis !!:evil: got a basic sketch down....slave driver !!:D

lovin art
08-31-2010, 06:34 AM
I made it, just:D !! Thankyou Kevin, wonderful ref and Im pleased I sat down and did her even thought it was rushed :rolleyes: ...oh well better late then never I say ! Congrats again everyone!!:clap: :clap: :clap:


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Aug-2010/186639-004.JPG
I added some colour !!:thumbsup:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Aug-2010/186639-006.JPG

Bella Jo
08-31-2010, 08:35 AM
Wow, more great work has been posted since I last visited!

Thanks for the comments Kevin, Kayelny and Mary. I have had fun attempting this challenge.

pauldavidartnewyork
08-31-2010, 10:16 AM
Wow, thanks for posting this expansion and comparison, Kevin!

Paul David:wave:

llawrence
08-31-2010, 11:26 AM
Nice job Sandra even if it was rushed. Glad you made it.

I think doing the casts was a great idea for a portrait challenge. Hope to do another one like that sometime?

kevinwueste
08-31-2010, 02:33 PM
Sandra! Great to see your contribution under the wire!! NIcely done and expressive! I hope we might see another entry or two by the end of the challenge!

-Kevin

kevinwueste
08-31-2010, 02:36 PM
Wow, more great work has been posted since I last visited!

Thanks for the comments Kevin, Kayelny and Mary. I have had fun attempting this challenge.

Glad you could join Bella JO!


Wow, thanks for posting this expansion and comparison, Kevin!

Paul David:wave:

You're welcome Paul, I hope we'll see more of your work in the future!!





llawrence Nice job Sandra even if it was rushed. Glad you made it.

I think doing the casts was a great idea for a portrait challenge. Hope to do another one like that sometime?

Llawrence, maybe we can make this one a theme challenge..

Kevin

lovin art
08-31-2010, 05:32 PM
Thankyou Louis and Kevin, I was rushed and I can see how trying to get her down in a hurry was not good.:rolleyes: ....but I had fun, thanks guys!!:thumbsup:

I agree with Louis these are grand, another one would be good!!...:D

kevinwueste
09-01-2010, 01:10 AM
I think what we have planned for next month will be a nice follow-on to this!! I'm glad you guys enjoyed this month's challenge!