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eyecandy2
07-15-2010, 11:27 AM
MY IMAGE(S):
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/upload_spool/07-15-2010/114934_SoloSm.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/upload_spool/07-15-2010/114934_Pas_de_Deux2Sm.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/upload_spool/07-15-2010/114934_Pas_De_DeuxSm.jpg


GENERAL INFORMATION:
Title: At the Ballet
Year Created:
Medium: Oil
Surface: Linen
Dimension: 24 x 30 and 24 x 36
Allow digital alterations?: Yes!

MY COMMENTS:
I have been working on the series of ballet dancers and I would like and honest critique on this series. Two of the pieces are 24 x 30 in oils and the other of the solo dancer is 24 x 36 in oils. I was priviledged to be able to take some photos of a ballet performance and so able to make these paintings. If only Degas had a camera!

MY QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP:
Please feel free to tell me what you think of these paintings and my execution of these beautiful people.

DanaLJensen
07-15-2010, 07:46 PM
I think the first painting of the solo dancer is really well done....i just feel that the lights are too close to her hands and are a little distracting. As hands are all part of a ballet dancers pose and draw much attention....which brings attention to her right hand which looks like she is missing a finger??

I love the pose of the second one and you have done an amazing job on the tulle. Gorgeous! The main thing that distracts me on that one is the lady's face, is very flat from the nose to the chin...just a straight line. The man's right foot is a bit mishapen?

I'd say the first one is my favourite! Lovely!

Bis007
07-16-2010, 07:55 AM
MY IMAGE(S)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Critiques/upload_spool/07-15-2010/114934_Pas_de_Deux2Sm.jpg
Allow digital alterations?: Yes!
MY COMMENTS:
I have been working on the series of ballet dancers and I would like and honest critique on this series. Two of the pieces are 24 x 30 in oils and the other of the solo dancer is 24 x 36 in oils. I was priviledged to be able to take some photos of a ballet performance and so able to make these paintings. If only Degas had a camera!
MY QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP:
Please feel free to tell me what you think of these paintings and my execution of these beautiful people. Hi eyecandy, yes they are talented and gifted performers.

Comment to 2nd Pic-only cos of re-post. I have seen the original. It is nice to captured these in real life and share it thru art. They are beautiful pieces. The ballerina is perfect! - she is happy.I like how you did the fabric. I think the male behind her is distracting from looking at the actual painting "her. My eye went to the expression on the male, his hands, feet etc.,Can't put his body part together. "- maybe is just me.I could be reading it wrong. My apology.

This area in ques: IMO "only"-
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jul-2010/119201-ballet_cropped.jpg
Can you see a face under her armpit area? the dark below her elbow -is that a bow from her dress or his?- Maybe that is the reason, I cannot see him properly.I did some change to her chin/neck with a curve/ adjust the nape of hairline for that kind of hairdo.etc.,- Dunno. not so confine, she looks like she is dancing away very happily. Others might advise better. BG blues around both arms -needs some blending. It is perfect as is.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jul-2010/119201-ballet-topost.jpg
Alt for comparsion "only" without the male person/dancer. Below is another ballerina (Cprght I got from Web) I used as ref only to show similar pose. They can manage. (just an idea for your series). http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jul-2010/119201-ballet_ref1.jpg
They are very nice painting Eyecandy -nice to photographed these talent live. Saw a few shows meself. Do more. Google Mark Haegeman. They are beautiful all 3 of them.:thumbsup:. Just wanted to see how she will look without him and maybe you did not intended that. My apology.

Harry Seymour
07-16-2010, 11:33 AM
Phil--these are nicely done-notwithstanding above comments. Also, I fine the man's face in the 2nd painting to be somewhat distorted. The colors are beautiful.

eyecandy2
07-16-2010, 11:49 AM
Thank you for your comment. I didn't realize that the lady could be in that position without support. If it doesn't bend reality, I would love to remove the guy from the picture. I also realize that she would look more graceful if I slenderized her neck as you have pointed out. Thank you for some wonderful comments.

Bis007
07-18-2010, 03:22 PM
Thank you for your comment. I didn't realize that the lady could be in that position without support. If it doesn't bend reality, I would love to remove the guy from the picture. I also realize that she would look more graceful if I slenderized her neck as you have pointed out. Thank you for some wonderful comments.Hi Phil, hope your reply was addressed to me, "notwithstanding" Glad you agree with above Alt. This is a beautiful ballerina and agree the guy seems added on hapzardously after,because you were'nt sure if She could stand in that position without someone holding her. Agree also, ballerina do have graceful/slender/ necks and they tend to show it in their performance not to mention they are somewhat contortionists, hope you incorporate the changes in the Alt if you wish. Tis a learning process to know what others think of removing him. Without him, you have a nice painting. I think. Love to see your changes. (The Ref-credited to M. Haegeman in above and Alt is to show this is possible with some facial/neck changed).

Nothing is better than photographing them yourself live as you did. (They are all wonderful artists just like you-you have captured them on canvas). :thumbsup:

Check out this site. ( learning ref only).
http://www.dance.net/topic/7172104/1/Ballet-Photos-Misc/The-Bolshoi-s-Females-A-Small-Introduction-for-Newbies.html.

Pic # 1- maybe you can tone down her lipstick a bit and the right of her neck? dunno.

DanaLJensen
07-18-2010, 06:30 PM
I think Bis007's alt is great. Makes it such a strong image! Might become my new favourite!! ;)

eyecandy2
07-19-2010, 07:04 PM
bis007, I do thank you for your help. I think that your suggestions are right on. I have already sleanderized her neck but maybe not enough. I'm working on it and I'm still pondering the removeal of her supporting partner. I do thank you so much. I do try to produce decent works of art.
Phil