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WC Lee
03-19-2010, 07:14 PM
Weather is getting warmer and I built a new pochade box :) The outside dimensions are 11 x 18 x 2.5 inches and here are some pictures of it, maybe it will offer some ideas to someone that is building themselves one.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2010/122017-new_pochade_1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2010/122017-new_pochade_2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2010/122017-new_pochade_3.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2010/122017-new_pochade_4.jpg

The dividers can come out to put in a box set :) it will fit 2 mount vision boxes of 25 or the Sennelier 80 half stick set. Or toss in a piece of plywood or glass and use it for oil painting :D

OK, off to cut some memory foam for it .....

Kathryn Wilson
03-19-2010, 08:25 PM
VERY nice! It looks so professional - you must be a whiz of a cabinet maker.

adventureartist
03-19-2010, 08:43 PM
Wow! You must have saved some $$ making that yourself! Looks great!:thumbsup:

PETE K
03-19-2010, 08:54 PM
This is great looking do you have a patten on it. if not you may want to get one. it looks that good.

DAK723
03-19-2010, 09:54 PM
Great work! Very professional!

Don

robertsloan2
03-19-2010, 10:06 PM
WC, this is great! Are you sure you don't want to build these as a sideline? I like how you created the easel, that looks so clever and effective. It also looks like you could stash some paper between the cover of the pastels area and the outer cover that becomes the easel.

Please do draw up the design and share it unless you're thinking of selling pochade boxes on the side. I'd be seriously tempted. I could hand-pick 25 more Mount Visions to create my "chromatic tints and shades" set and have them all out with me, or put pieces of everything I've got into the sections by hue on the foam the way Deborah Secor does.

Also, where do you get memory foam? I might be tempted to try and build my own if I could get the foam to put into it.

Paula Ford
03-19-2010, 10:24 PM
:clap: WOW! That's fabulous WC! You are multi-talented :D

WC Lee
03-20-2010, 12:48 AM
Kathryn: thanks :) believe me, it looks a lot better from a distance :D don't know if I would make much of a cabinet maker but I do like to build things though it usually don't look too good.

Drusilla: thanks :) I just couldn't justify spending that much money on a commercially available pastel pochade box. Also, none of them have the specifications that I wanted, all of them have something I like about it but not everything.

Pete: thanks :) lol no patent on it but if you do see one come out that looks like this, you know where they got the idea :D

Don: thanks :)

Robert: thanks :) yep I'm sure I don't want to do this on the side considering ther tools I have. I would just stick some paper in a tracing paper pad, clip it and stick it in my backpack along with a board and roll of tape.

Don't have to draw up the design :) the lower part is based on the Heilman box and the top part is based on the EasyL :)

You can order memory foam cut to order from http://www.foamonline.com/

Paula: thanks :) yepo, I am Jack of all trades but master of none :D

Studio-1-F
03-20-2010, 10:02 AM
That is a s-e-r-i-o-u-s-l-y fine piece of work, WC!! :thumbsup: Bravo!

Tell me about your hinging, please. Can the top be angled away from the bottom? Or is the max angle 90 degrees? What is the brace-like item that you have used on the left side, between top and base? I can't see it clearly enough in the pix you posted. How does it work? Can you post a close-up, please?

This is a nifty box. Gadzooks but I'd love to have access to a wood shop. And the skills to make such a thing without the risk of slicing off a digit. [sigh]

Jan

saramathewson
03-20-2010, 11:51 PM
WC, what a beautiful box!

i would love one of these!!!

Sara:)

robertsloan2
03-21-2010, 12:28 AM
WC, thank you! I might try to design my own someday, if Karl gets the tools for the wood shop he wants. Being able to get the memory foam for it would make it feasible and that'd be so much cheaper and probably more personally convenient. Heck, I might get some small layers of memory foam and do the cigar box Karl gave me as a small pochade -- layer of foam on the bottom, layer of foam glued to a mat board insert to lay on top of the pastels, then a little space for a small pad of Pastelmat or some boards or cut small paper on top of it.

Then attach two little jewelry chains to the sides and the lid so that when the lid's opened it sits upright leaning back at a slight angle and I've got -- a very small pochade, wooden, easy to put on my knee when I'm sitting on my field chair. The memory foam is the one thing I'd need to do that right.

WC Lee
03-21-2010, 02:08 AM
Jan: thanks :) right now I got 2 butt hinges on there but will change it to a piano hinge when I get a chance to visit the hardware store. As for the brace, it is a curved lid support and I have it to open the lid to approximately 90 degrees. Will be changing that too once I think of a good way to do it.

The main thing that is needed is the table saw to cut the sheet of hardwood, everything else can be done with simple hand tools.

Sara: thanks :)

Robert: you're welcome :) Memory foam is good but regular foam will work too but just make sure you get the softer type. I tried the cigar box route, for both pastels and oil, but it is just too small.

Studio-1-F
03-21-2010, 10:04 AM
As for the brace, it is a curved lid support and I have it to open the lid to approximately 90 degrees. Will be changing that too once I think of a good way to do it.
Thanks, WC! The best solution I have seen is Alla Prima's friction hinges, so you don't even need a brace. The worst solutions are the ones where you end up with these pieces of hardware (thumbscrews, knobs, rods, etc.) sicking out, on the side of the box and getting all caught up in the backpack. (Not so good. (http://www.lorimcnee.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/pochade-hardware.jpg) Also not good (http://www.easyeasels.com/Cass%20025.jpg), in my opinion.)

Be sure and keep us (me!) informed if you find a good solution to this.

Jan

WC Lee
03-22-2010, 02:45 AM
I ordered a torque hinge similar to the alla prima's fiction hinge but I would have to modify some things though probably will just add another curved lid support on the right side to give it more stability and save the hinge for another box, one that is planned with it in mind. One thing I am not sure of is if it will hold with the pressure of applying pastels. I know the hinge will work for oil painting since there is very little pressure when using a brush.

WC Lee
03-23-2010, 03:26 AM
okay, I just added a curved lid support on the right side and the lid is a lot more stable when opened, just waiting on the handles and D loops. In the meantime, I took all the senneliers and great americans out of my other homemade pochade and loaded it all into this one, mounted it on the tripod, placed a colourfix primed mat board up and all ready to paint. Then it struck me, I don't know what I want to paint :D nothing looks interesting to me and it has been like this all day.

Anyhow, here is a pic of the box with the sennies and GAs :) this box doesn't hold all that much, 200 half sticks at most. Notice how most of the pastels are in such good shape? Shows how much I used these :D I like this one better than my last attempt, easier to set up and the cover help protect the pastels in case I decide to move it without latching the lid (like I did with the other one, not a pretty sight ... I meant me, almost having a heart attack :D the pastels was fine, I stopped myself before major damage occurred and only one broke in half

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Mar-2010/122017-new_pochade_5.jpg

oh BTW, ignore the unorganized way I placed the pastels.

WC Lee
04-15-2010, 09:30 PM
Made an dust catcher for the box .. using magnets to hold it in place

Here it is detached, a metal plate is glued to the bottom part of the canvas support.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Apr-2010/122017-DSCF0525.JPG

This blurry picture shows the back of the dust catcher where the magnets are glued on, I also added some strips of foam to minimize any dust that might slip by through the back door :D

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Apr-2010/122017-DSCF0526.JPG

then finally with it attached ...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Apr-2010/122017-DSCF0527.JPG

artist_pw
06-23-2010, 12:19 AM
Hi - this box does look great. My sweet hubbie made me a box, but it folds like the Heilman. I'm glad you posted a source for custom memory foam, because I've been meaning to get some, and I think another thread had one listed that I found to be no longer available when I tried it a few months ago. I looked at this site, and it offers different densities of the foam from very soft to extra firm, and I'm curious if anyone recommends a particular one for this purpose. Any advice is appreciated.