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trafford
03-01-2010, 06:25 AM
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Odilon Redon

A little Victorian, a little religious, a little romantic and a little erotic...with a dash of fantasy..SYMBOLISM (1885-1910) Our art movement for March.

Here is a link to more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolism_(arts)

and some artists:

GUSTAV MOREAU (1826-1898)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Moreau

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JAN TOOROP (1858-1928)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Toorop

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trafford
03-01-2010, 06:36 AM
A few more artists:

FRANZ VON STUCK (1863-1928)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Stuck

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ODILON REDON (1840-1916)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odilon_Redon

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trafford
03-01-2010, 06:56 AM
and of course:

GUSTAV KLIMT (1862-1918)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Klimt

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Please look into other artists in this movement besides the ones here and be inspired or copy or write about. Symbolism covers a wide field of styles and subjects so there should be something for everyone.

We are copyright free here...so enjoy.

I will post some youtube links later today.

artbyjune
03-02-2010, 10:40 AM
Oh WOW, Janet. A terrific project. I just adore Odilon Redon's work!!!

azulparsnip
03-03-2010, 01:00 AM
This looks like a real adventure.

trafford
03-03-2010, 11:58 AM
Here are some videos:

Redon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brlid63Be7Y&feature=related

Klimt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDZXUPi-6OQ&feature=related

Moreau
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gojnciLNn4Y

Toorop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-celp_36-N0

von Stuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WMEc9VLl5w

azulparsnip
03-03-2010, 12:49 PM
whoooohooo - I hope my ancient browser can sustain

trafford
03-03-2010, 01:20 PM
That's OK. My p/c is a torment. Either kicks me out or freezes...and no Youtube. I'm sitting at my sons gorgeous Mac at the moment...which seems to be able to do everything that I want it to, but I have to wait until he's at work to use it.

artbyjune
03-03-2010, 03:06 PM
Super-duper...videos!! I am off to look...

azulparsnip
03-08-2010, 12:27 PM
here is the last collaboration we did - here is my husbands poem and my image rife with symbolism.
If a thing should fall
it's not the end
we roll it up
and start again
when the sun sets
in the west
we turn to the east
and hope for the best
as through a glass
the sand will drop
less and less
until it stop
but when it comes
to the final grain
the glass is turned again
and starts again

There is an end
and it will come
but not until
these days are done
and when we think
this is the end
eternity
will just begin.

artbyjune
03-08-2010, 02:25 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Mar-2010/106623-treespirit1a6k.jpg

'Tree spirit', 6 by 12 ins approx, acrylics on cartridge paper.

This painting started out life maybe a year ...or was it 2 years ago...and got scrunched up, thrown in the bin, and retreived. I thought I saw a figure in it...which looked like a spirit and so I added some paint to it tonight to make it a bit clearer.

I rather like that Redon forest spirit idea. I think I'll try a few more, or one more anyway, on the forest/tree spirit theme.

artbyjune
03-08-2010, 02:29 PM
Love the poem and illustrations Robin. Are you doing a book? I want to do a book of poems. I have about 30 written now, but I am too lazy to type them into the computer. They were in my old pc but it crashed and is inaccessible...

azulparsnip
03-12-2010, 12:43 AM
That is a cool "spirit" Isn't it neat when a image just appears like that. I think from your comments it happens frequently to you. How nice.
Thanks but Nah, we're not making a book. Andy mentions sometime maybe putting them up on a website or something but it's not all that important to me.
You mean your poems are trapped inside the dead computer?

gakinme
03-12-2010, 01:34 AM
Robin, your husband's poem as usual is filled with hope. Very nice. I see angels. Are they molding bread? The imagery of bread and wine and Jesus? The cold air coming down is pretty cool.

June, love your very dapper tree spirit complete with suits! Neat recovery there.

artbyjune
03-12-2010, 06:06 AM
I like to find imagery in shapes of colour...sometimes it works out; sometimes not. As for the poems...they are in the old pc and I cannot access them. However, I have printed versions as they appeared in the magazines...so I just need to re-type them all...a task I am not keen on. Need to give myself a talking to to get them done.

I am being really lazy this week ..

trafford
03-12-2010, 09:19 AM
Robin. the poem and illustrations are great.....maybe you two could put together a picture/poem blog. Can that be done?

June, what a wonderful tree spirit. Please do a few more. He also looks a little like Puss in Boots (without the boots)

Here's a quickie, done in sketch book with water soluble ink pencils.

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artbyjune
03-13-2010, 02:27 AM
hi Janet. Your lady looks very peaceful there in the water. Its a lovely upbeat 'doodle' that would also make a good painting later!

Puss-in-boots! I never thought of that but his/her face is quite catlike.

I was toying with the idea of a poetry site...well, it could be a poems and pictures site. The webs host does free sites with forums and members so it could be a community site. Just a thought. Here is the host if you wish to start a site of your own : http://www.webs.com (http://www.webs.com/)/

I got started on a poems and pictures site...which might work as a community poetry site...have to wait and see. Its at:
http://poemsandpictures.webs.com/

You can publish poems and your illustrations to poems there. Forums etc. :thumbsup:

brianvds
03-13-2010, 05:07 AM
Great work thus far, by everyone who posted any. Not sure I will have time for this project, and I'm quite out of inspiration anyway!

gakinme
03-14-2010, 01:57 PM
Janet, cute flowers along the edge. I like yellows! She looks relaxed on the water.

I've joined your site, June.

Your oil pastel piece is very pretty. You can't enlarge it by clicking on it? I want to see the fine details.

artbyjune
03-15-2010, 03:17 AM
Glad to have your company on the poetry and illustrations site, Sandra. I am finding my way around to make it more interesting. I hope to see your work there when you get a chance to post...poems and/or pictures!

trafford
03-24-2010, 06:11 AM
A Symbolic doodle...might make an interesting painting, Hmmm! :heart:

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gakinme
03-24-2010, 10:39 PM
That is cute, Janet. The flower wilting in the sun and in the middle of nowhere. Hat shaped boats floating. Very creative. Love the rocks and pebbles and branches and blades of grass on the island.

artbyjune
03-25-2010, 12:48 AM
This would make a good painting Janet!

trafford
03-25-2010, 01:44 PM
A few more from the sketch book:

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Inspired by Jan Toorop-magic markers

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Inspired by Kasimer Malevich-magic marker and ink pencils

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Inspired by Wassily Kadinsky-oil pastels

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artbyjune
03-25-2010, 06:05 PM
WOW. You are into this art movement janet. I love them. Very stylish design in the first; love the figures in the second; and the terrifying sea dragon in the last one. three very different 'moods'.

gakinme
03-25-2010, 09:38 PM
Janet, I love the monster!!! It has superb colors and enough waves to show its moving!

trafford
03-26-2010, 07:12 AM
Thanks June and Sandra. The sea monster is my first use of oil pastels and I'm interested to know what other things you can do with them, as this feels like only a big crayon drawing. I think you can add turps (?) to make it more painterly. You use them a lot Sandra...what do you say?

As we are winding down this thread...I couldn't resist posting this really weird painting by Hugo Simberg (1873-1917) I just love it.

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Garden of Death

gakinme
04-17-2010, 12:20 AM
Haha...that Garden of Death is so fun. Great find there. I have to check this artist out.

Janet, you could use turp with it or odorless spirit/ rubbing alcohol. It will melt the oil pastel and you will feel like you are painting oil. Which to me still is strange. If I want brush and paint, I'll just reach for my oil paint. It's two step process of laying crayon down first and then dissolve. But perhaps people like it because it dries almost instantly as compared to oil. Then of course, if you want to use a brush, just use acrylic. It's super fast drying too.

Oil pastel indeed is like huge crayons with intensity and softness. I like it because sometimes, you don't want to deal with the dust from soft pastel, the monotone of graphite or charcoal, the exactitude of pen and ink and try to escape from the very demanding watercolor planning. Out comes oil pastel. I usually like to do them big and fast, unsmudged. The sketchy feel to it is very satisfying.

I just got a book on Symbolism from the library and was planning to read it this weekend. Perhaps I could come up with something.

gakinme
05-09-2010, 05:20 PM
I finally got around to look at the symbolism movement book I got from the library. I haven't had the chance to read the wordings yet because I was in a hurry to try out the pix.

This one, I made sure he was dead first.

Sennelier Pastel Card 9 x 12 inch
A mix of hard and soft pastels

Image based on Mikhail Alexandrovich Vrubel's Seated Demon 1890. So nice to see a good looking man in an old painting without them being plump. Very advanced painter.




http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-May-2010/86669-setupmay.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-May-2010/86669-mikhail_alexandrovich_vrubel1.jpg


Here's one that's entirely Sennelier Oil Pastel. The same image as the one in soft pastel based on Mikhail Alexandrovich's piece.

65 lb cardstock golden yellow 8.5 x 11 inch


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-May-2010/86669-mikhail_alexandrovich_vrubel2.jpg


This image is modeled after Frantisek Kupka. Thank goodness I didn't copy it exactly. I just noticed he hasn't died long enough. LOL. We're so morbid over here.

Sennelier oil pastel
Fabriano Artist Journal 7x9 inch

The set up: I used my manikins for different lighting and pose. You could see the image below the box that I took reference from.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-May-2010/86669-setup2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-May-2010/86669-frantisek_kupak1.jpg

trafford
05-10-2010, 11:25 AM
Thanks Sandra for showing us the progress. I see you are using the colored page sketch book you bought. You really do get an awful lot of work done. :thumbsup:

gakinme
05-11-2010, 08:52 PM
Thank you, Janet. I wish I am not working but do nothing but draw and paint all day. But then, I wouldn't have been able to buy all these supplies without working. Thanks for looking.

gakinme
05-14-2010, 12:29 AM
The more I look at this book on Symbolism, the more I love the period. I still have to understand why they do what they do by reading the text carefully but I'm in a hurry to copy some of their work.

At lunch time, I did this piece of Franz von Stuck's Sin 1893. It's a personification of an evil woman but I think I made mine more evil than his. I am totally vowed by the artist of the Symbolism movement. They are so advanced in their depiction and they all look so modern yet most are in late 1800's and early 1900's.

Here is the fast watercolor sketch.

Academie Heavyweght Sketchbook 8.5 x 11 inch
Daniel Smith Watercolor
Vine charcoal for black since I didn't have black watercolor with me
Niji waterbrush

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-May-2010/86669-wc_evilwoman1.jpg


Today I got my new set of 24 sticks of Faber Castell Polychromos hard pastel. OMG, it's everything that I wanted in pastel. I was smiling so much throughout the whole piece, so very happy.

65 lb black cardstock 8.5 x 11 inch coated with Colorfix Primer black color
Carbothello Stabilo pastel pencil - yellow
General's Charcoal pencil - white
Cretacolor pastel pencil - black

OMG, this colorfix primer is so much better than the Golden Acrylic pastel ground. It's so much finer and smoother. I laid the first stroke with Cretacolor and it was blotchy and at once I changed to the Polychromos. OMG...it's like night and day. The smoothness of this hard pastel is incredible. I can't wait to see what the pastel pencils are like when they arrive.

The fine details are completed with pastel pencils.

I am thinking of doing one in oil pastel possibly because I have the full range of colors in oil pastel at the moment. Thank goodness weekend starts tomorrow at 5. I can't wait!!!!

Here's the original (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=sin%2C%20franz%20von%20stuck&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi) by the long gone artist.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-May-2010/86669-fchp_evilwoman.jpg