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brandywyne13
12-28-2007, 12:51 AM
Thank you Connie, I have been working with the circles and lines everyday before I try anything else. I think I am actually improving. I did the chair again it is beginning to look like a chair.

So on to lesson two. Hope your holidays were joyous.

Dana

Capt Elaine
12-28-2007, 09:30 PM
Hi all... I started this week... not exactly sure how we did a quantum leap from straight lines to 20 spheres... hope to do those tonight... I didn't scan my straight lines... but here's my chair ... along with my black and white print out of the chair...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Dec-2007/76608-Chair12282007.jpg

I did the kitty for the weekly drawing thread... so I'm going to use it as my pre-class picture...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Dec-2007/76608-Kitten12282007.jpg

Off to draw 20 spheres... then on to lesson 2...

Thank you for doing this set of classes... I know I'm behind, but it looks like Dana and I started about the same time... :wave: Hi Dana... great Lab you've got there... can't wait until you are able to do a fabulous drawing of her.

Capt Elaine
12-28-2007, 09:35 PM
Oops -
Dana - the cirlces show the lines but you should be getting the edges just from the ends of the lines, not with a hard outline.

I dont' understand this :confused:... guess before I attempt I need to see if I can find and example of what you're talking about.

Capt Elaine
12-29-2007, 09:00 AM
Well I don't know if I did them correctly or not... I did look back thru this thread at what people did in the past... and to me Dana's circles look exactly like the example JayD did on page 4 of this thread.... I did try to do a circle without actually drawing it... using lines only... didn't turn out too good... but here's half the page...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Dec-2007/76608-Circles12292007.jpg

brandywyne13
12-29-2007, 01:37 PM
Thanks Capt.

I am trying to do circles both ways for pratice. My DH is in the hospital for triple bypass surgery this morning and I will be leaving in an hour and a half to be there when he comes out of surgery. When I get home this afternoon, I will scan and show my latest attemps at circles.

Dana

cmwynn
12-29-2007, 06:46 PM
I took the time to check back on the assignment and I was wrong, you are supposed to draw a circle first then fill it with lines to show the light and dark parts. That chair is diabolical, the view shows three legs but we all know there are four.
Dana - I hope your husband recovers quickly, drawing is one thing you can do in the waiting room.
Elaine - glad you are joining too, it is good to have someone going along at the same pace.

Capt Elaine
12-29-2007, 08:58 PM
Oh Dana... I hope everything went well for your DH... My DH has congestive heart failure, so I understand :heart:

Thanks Connie... on to lesson 2.

brandywyne13
12-30-2007, 10:13 AM
Good Morning Capt,
Surgery went well, he is in ICU now. Surgery took 4 1/2 hours. I will be heading out about 7 am to get to the hospital about 8 and stay the day with him. Got my sketch book handy, as well as a scarf I am crocheting.
I understand about the congestive heart. His mom died from it. I hope you and yours are well this year.

Blessing,

Dana

Kissy
01-01-2008, 01:07 PM
Hello all, new to the site. I used the chair photo as my preclass picture. Great assignment to get me back into drawing, along with the circles. I kind of jumped around on this thread before posting, it's huge. I used a regular old mechanical pencil, next time will try one of my son's #2 pencils. I used the "non-chair" spaces 1st to draw the chair. Also, the circles were difficult to draw without drawing a circle shape 1st, and on some I tried using my left hand(interesting). Comments/crit. welcome as I have taken 1 drawing class wayyyy back in high school. I hope the drawings are visible.

Be blessed

Leila



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2008/127386-lchair.jpg



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2008/127386-circles.jpg


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2008/127386-circles_II.jpg

alfredart
01-01-2008, 02:20 PM
Leila, glade to see you made it over here and got a really good start on the lesson. Line work is very good and you're working in some good values as well. Perspective is off a bit on the chair seat but over all... very well done. You did very well on your circle practice, very nice cross hatching and line work there as well. I can see it won't be long and you'll be flying through these classes.

Welcome to Wet Canvas and 101!

Peace,
AL

ctopaz
01-01-2008, 03:33 PM
Well, here are my spheres. I have not redone my pre-class assignment yet. I was hoping to get more done over the holidays, but with family in town it just wasn't happening! That and my daughter kept stealing my sketchpad to do "artist stuff". :D Oh well...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2008/116197-DSC05887.JPG

I guess I need to work on lighting for these pictures; my scanner didn't do a good job with this one so I used my camera.

ctopaz

Kissy
01-01-2008, 05:51 PM
Thanks AL,
I am too thrilled to have found this website, looking forward to others' insight/help to improve.
I pray to keep up with lessons. Suggestions on areas of needed practice welcome. Off to get some more practice!

Leila

ctopaz
01-01-2008, 09:11 PM
Here's my pre-class assignment, redone with straight-line shading. I tried to define the contours more with shading than with an outline. I'm happier with the shape of the head in this one, but I think I did better on the facial features in the pre-class drawing.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2008/116197-Micayla-lines.jpg

ctopaz

brandywyne13
01-01-2008, 09:29 PM
Hey ctopaz, I love the circles, and your redraw of your pre-class drawing has taught me a lot.
Kissy, this is the type of class that I love, work at your own speed. My speed is reverse this week. Just try and know that the people here are great.

Dana, another newbie here.

alfredart
01-02-2008, 12:30 AM
ctopaz, nice work on the line drawing.:thumbsup: Ain't it cool how many values you can get from just drawing straight lines?:)

Peace,
AL

crazy_fijkus
01-02-2008, 01:33 AM
Well, I got a number of images that I drew for the first class together.

1. Preclass image, before:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2008/126943-Mitsubishi_Zero_1.jpg

2. Lines image:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2008/126943-Line_Exercise.jpg
3. Circles image:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Jan-2008/126943-circles.jpg
4. Preclass image, after:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Jan-2008/126943-Mitsubishi_Zero_2.jpg
If there was anything that I missed, or anything that I need to work on, please let me know.

ctopaz
01-02-2008, 02:49 PM
Dana - thank you for the kind words! You are but one example of the great people that can be found here. :) I hope your DH is recovering well from his surgery.

Al - thanks! It took a bit to get the hang of it, but it was cool to see what could be done with just straight lines.

ctopaz

alfredart
01-02-2008, 03:44 PM
crazy_fijkus, looks like you're doing just fine. Big difference in the line drawing of the plane. Much better.

Peace,
AL

crazy_fijkus
01-02-2008, 07:22 PM
Thanks.

I'll be moving on to lesson 2.

-Roy

Grasshopper
01-12-2008, 01:54 PM
Here's my straight lines (allegedly), and my spheres (kinda' sorta').:D

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jan-2008/23562-Class_1_drawn_straight_lines.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jan-2008/23562-Class_1_spheres.jpg

Kissy
01-12-2008, 02:50 PM
Ahhh grasshopper,
I see you have found WC, you are in the right place! Sorry, I could't resist, I love your name, makes me think of the 70's tv show Kung Fu. I just started on these lessons also. I think you have a great start and hope you are excited about the help and encouragedment you gain from the guides here.
Oops, forgot to sign!

Blessings,
Leila

Grasshopper
01-13-2008, 10:28 AM
Thank you, Leila. I've been using that name for about 8 yrs. or so now. I got it from that show. I always feel I'm learning...

I'm very excited about the help and encouragement. WC rocks.

cmwynn
01-13-2008, 11:15 PM
Grasshopper - your circles are a little rough but we will give you lots of practice on them in a coming lesson. You do show that you can put the highlights where your want them and have the idea of rudimentary shading. That is the object here, so go one with lesson 2.

DancesWithRabbits
01-21-2008, 02:23 AM
Ok, so I've been working. :angel:
First, I did lines
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2008/7329-lines.jpg
Then I did spheres
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2008/7329-spheres.jpg
Then, because I didn't think my preclass subject was very suitable for perspective of straight lines, I did the chair.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2008/7329-chair.jpg
...and now that I've uploaded it I see that the seat perspective is off. :rolleyes:
Anyway, then for good measure I redid my preclass drawing (the first one is here (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221326&page=35).
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Jan-2008/7329-eye.jpg
and it turned out kinda cool after all. I think my proportions may have been better the first time, but this time I was a lot more conscious of the underlying shapes. Anyway, thanks for allowing me to participate, y'all. I can tell I'm going to learn sooo much.

And I'm catching smiley-itis :lol: :lol: :lol: :cool:

cmwynn
01-24-2008, 10:40 PM
DanceswithRabbits - good work on lines. One thing I would bring out is that the light spots on the spheres are supposed to be highlights. That doesn't mean just a dot, they can be spread out, but you have drawn most of the objects highlights. And, yes, that chair looks a little wonky, but generally you drew it well. An improvement on the eye, just keep practicing and someday -- . It does take lots of work but only practice will get you where you want to be.

DancesWithRabbits
01-25-2008, 08:53 PM
Connie, are these any better?http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Jan-2008/7329-spheres2.jpg

Judibelle
01-27-2008, 07:22 PM
Hi...I'm anxious to jump in here, but not quite sure where or how...I had been following this thread a while ago, but had no scanner. So I just sort of did it on my own. Unfortunately, I didnt keep the sketches. I remember doing the spheres, but will do them again . Menwhile, here are my lines and the pre-assignment sketch. I did try a chair, which I will also try to post.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Jan-2008/103700-scan_2_perspective.jpg

oops well, this isnt the one I expected, but glad it uploaded anyway. It was my try at the perspective class. It looks like I've been jumping around a bit, and I guess I have! I'll try to keep in pace with each class...
JB

Kissy
01-29-2008, 11:01 PM
JB,
glad you jumped on in, you seem very excited. Don't be anxious though this has been a great learning experience for me too...from learning how to use a scanner to drawing a circle...and the guides have been very helpful. Hope you have a great time exploring and developing your talent.

Kissy
01-29-2008, 11:02 PM
JB,
glad you jumped on in, you seem very excited. Don't be anxious though this has been a great learning experience for me too...and the guides have been very helpful. Hope you have a great time exploring and developing your talent.

OOPS...tried to change original post and ended up making a double post!
:rolleyes:

Judibelle
01-30-2008, 03:05 PM
Hi Leila....yeah, I am excited about really getting into the basics. Having never had any instruction, I feel like this is really the place to come for it.

So I went back and did some cubes, and then tried the boxes.... I 'get it' in my head, but have a hard time transferring it to my own drawings.
Gonna try to upload those now...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2008/103700-scan_04_jpeg_cubes.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Jan-2008/103700-Jpeg_scan_05_boxes.jpg
My boxes need a lot of work to get them to look right...oh, well..i'll keep trying...
JB

Judibelle
02-01-2008, 12:36 PM
...thought I posted some more boxes, but seem to have lost them. well, i'll try again. Maybe they ended up in another thread....dunno....
Anyway, here are a couple more boxes.... JB

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2008/103700-scan0002.jpg__more_boxes.jpg

EdieB
02-01-2008, 11:18 PM
Hi - I'm new to the class. I had this great idea:D I'll read all the posts, I didn't get every far before I started skipping pages. I did learn from the ones that I read. 1. I need to remember I'm a Beginner, and for some artist this is a refresher class. 2. I need to practice a lot, I took a class in Feb 2006 (5, 3 hour classes)but have not been PRACTICING for several month and have lost what I've learn. I would also like to change my original post which I posted on the Pre-class thread. Here is my "Chair from Hell" as someone earlier rightly named it. :o but I did do it:eek: I'm having trouble with uploading my lines and spheres. I know my chair is way off , I started to do a second one but it was even worst. So I'm going with this picture for now. I'm still working on "How to Draw what you see". http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2008/114247-chair_2.jpg

Willemien
02-02-2008, 06:07 AM
Hi Edie,

I also was struggling with the chair from hell, as you rightly called it.
Then someone told me to put it in two boxes (cubes) one for the upper half, one for the seat and the legs.
This trick did it for me.

Good luck,
Willy

Willemien
02-02-2008, 06:09 AM
Hi Edie,

I also was struggling with the chair from hell, as you rightly called it.
Then someone told me to put it in two boxes (cubes) one for the upper half, one for the seat and the legs. Place the cubes not right from the front, but in the same direction as the chair is placed
This trick did it for me.

Good luck,
Willy

EdieB
02-02-2008, 04:40 PM
:wave: Hi Willy, Thank you I'll try the box idea. I have not posted the lines and spheres. I read somewhere about a download program that I could use (if its for a Mac?) to help with uploading items. Thank again Edie

Willemien
02-02-2008, 06:28 PM
Hi Edie I have no idea what download program you mean.
There is some useful information in (homepage) Wetcanvas - town centre - Welcome forum new users. (the sticky ones).

Best regards, Willy

jlaffoon
02-05-2008, 12:05 AM
Hello, I just started the lessons and I'm posting my chair drawing. I'll put up by challenging drawing later as it is going to take a longer time to finish. I'm really happen I found this forum, the ability to have subjects to focus on and draw is great!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Feb-2008/29999-img001.jpg

Anda G
02-05-2008, 12:18 AM
jlaffoon, welcome! I see that you are brave in your first choice of pictures . That :evil: Chair! I had such a hard time with it when I took that lesson. I hope you enjoy all of the classes.

Andagail :wave:

EdieB
02-07-2008, 05:40 PM
I still learning to resize my photo's - Here is my spheres and lines. Now to the book
Edie
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Feb-2008/114247-Lines_1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Feb-2008/114247-spheres_1.jpg

Judibelle
02-07-2008, 05:40 PM
Hi ...I think I'm finally in the right place at the right pace...and finally found the instructions for the circles. Not sure I have them right, but here they are:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Feb-2008/103700-scan0002.jpg_circles.jpg
Not quite sure what to do from here...
JB

Judibelle
02-07-2008, 09:11 PM
Dont think I ever got to post my Preassignment picture...will do so now.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Feb-2008/103700-scan0003.jpg_church.jpg am working on perspective. I think my lines got lost somewhere...but will continue from here if that is ok.
thanks...JB

cmwynn
02-08-2008, 05:10 PM
Sorry, folks, I am back in the land of the living after some medical issues but have been deliquent about checking the lessons, so here are a few days worth of comments:
Danceswithrabbits - yes, certainly an improvement. These look more like highlights than the ones last time.
Judibelle - the boxes all look great. You seem comfortable with the "line of sight", the object of lesson two. I am not sure you really got the point of the spheres drawn with straight lines - usually called hatching or cross-hatching. You don't seem to have any hightlights, just areas not as heavily drawn over. The pre-class assignment is mostly for you to be able to measure your progress, so that is fine.
Edie - I don't know who came up with the photo of that chair but would gladly strangle him. It seems too complicated to me, with so much not shown that it really is hard to see what you should be drawing. You got it mostly right and Willy's suggestion of treating it as two separate boxes should help a lot. Your exercises for this lesson are on spot, so you are ready to advance to lesson two. Part of the learning experience is getting your drawings and such actually on line. There are infinite details to get right, so just being here is a triumph.
jlaffoon - glad to have you here. You also started with one of the hardest parts, that chair, and have had more success than most of us did. The first lessons seem almost too basic, but believe that it will help in the long run.

Judibelle
02-08-2008, 06:23 PM
thanks, Connie....You are right...I dont get the concept of the spheres...if we draw straight lines, how do we get circles to look 3-dimensional? Seems like they would have to be curved. And I probably didnt get the concept of drwing the straight lines, either, if it was about hatching and crosshatching. which I obviously dont get...
Did go back and look at some of the earlier drawings of the circles, and still dont get it. Many of those lines were curved in the circles...
Well, got my work cut out for me now, for sure!
JB

EdieB
02-10-2008, 11:47 AM
:wave: Connie, I'm glad you are back and I hope feeling better. I have not try the chair using the boxes yet, it is next on my list. Yes I feel good about doing this, learning to let go, relax and enjoy just doing. I've already learn that I need to practice each day even if it just to doodle. Thank you. Edie

Judibelle
02-10-2008, 02:58 PM
Havent been able to get WetCanvas the last couple of days...glad it's back now...
I did practive some more circles, but not sure I 'have it' yet.. also tried the dreaded chair, which I am posting as well. JB
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Feb-2008/103700-scan0003.jpg__chair_and_spheres.jpg

Willemien
02-10-2008, 04:14 PM
I think you did the chair quite well.... good for you. I was really struggling.
With the spheres.... Put some high lights. It is not just the movement of the lines. If you look at other posts, maybe you get an idea.

Best regards, Willy

jlaffoon
02-10-2008, 04:35 PM
The site was down for a day or so. I was worried but I'm glad its back up. Here is my drawing of the shaded circles. For some reason it won't rotate.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Feb-2008/29999-img002.jpg

jlaffoon
02-10-2008, 04:42 PM
Judibelle, I like the spheres but I believe Willemien is right tho about the highlights. This would be for where the light source is shining directly on the object. On the other hand seeing your made me realize how good you are at the shading of the object. Yours are much more accurate than mine in terms of the overall shading.

Judibelle
02-10-2008, 07:57 PM
Hi Willy and Jlaffoon...Thanks for your comments. I dont quite get it yet, how do do the highlights. Jlaffoon... I particularly like the shadows . I think your highlights stand out quite nicely.
well, back to practice, practice practice!
JB

jlaffoon
02-11-2008, 08:35 PM
Hi, I was messing around this morning with cubes and perspective. I completely understand the theory behind perspective but applying takes some getting used to.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Feb-2008/29999-img003.jpg

Judibelle
02-12-2008, 07:39 PM
Wow Jaffoon...I think you applied it very well! Looks great, to me!
I cant believe I'm still struggling with the spheres...after several aborted tries, does this look any better? Have to admit, I'm frustrated with them!
bit I'm determined to keep trying til i 'get it'! JB

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Feb-2008/103700-scan0002.jpg___spheres_3.jpg

jlaffoon
02-14-2008, 12:52 AM
They look good. I'd darken the edge farthest away from the light source a bit more and don't forget the cast shadow just to give them a little more depth.

Judibelle
02-14-2008, 11:42 AM
thanks, jlaffoon...I did just that, and hopefully have a better handle on it now...

Judibelle
02-14-2008, 01:28 PM
Hope this does is for the circles/spheres. I'm hoping to move on to the next now...
JB
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Feb-2008/103700-scan0004.jpg__spheres_w_shadow.jpg

cmwynn
02-14-2008, 10:58 PM
Judibelle - I think you have it! These look so much better. I know you are going forward as well but it is good to understand these basics.
jlaffoon - good spheres, not sure the perspective stuff isn't a fantasy, a la Escher. They do belong in Lesson 2. The major points there are to understand the "line of sight" and a quick lesson on vanishing points and size changes in distant objects.

Judibelle
02-15-2008, 08:51 AM
thanks, Connie....Looking forward to doing the perspective thing...I definitely dont get the line of sight and change of size thing on paper. Only in my mind...
JB

jlaffoon
02-26-2008, 12:55 AM
The lesson called for something to draw that was difficult for me. Well I found this picture in the references images and it was HARD! Now if I can only figure out how to do this using straight lines. Let me know what you think, I really appreciate comments. :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Feb-2008/29999-banner002.jpg

cmwynn
02-27-2008, 11:49 PM
jlaffoon - this does look like a complicated image to draw. Just keep it so that later you can try doing the same thing again, hoping to have improved by doing all these lesson.

Linda39F
03-04-2008, 12:11 AM
Thanks very much for your comments, Deirdre, and for the nice welcome. Actually, I was a bit worried that I'd picked something too easy.

Here's my lines and circles exercises.

I know I didn't need to do 2 pages of lines, but I was sort of having fun with it. I have hope for myself regarding the lines as I can actually get some straight and parallel ones going sometimes, so I think with more practice it'll become easier to get consistantly good lines. Now, the circles were a bit of a struggle for me. I feel like I learned something in the process, but still it was a hit and miss process because I really didn't know what I was doing.

I'd love any feedback on any of these, including what I should be doing differently, need to improve on, do over again, etc.

In the meantime I'm going to start working on that notorious chair.

*Deirdre*
03-04-2008, 07:20 AM
Hi again Linda...hope I don't confuse you but I've moved your original drawing and my comment to the Pre-class thread...which stops this thread getting even bigger! My fault for not spotting it earlier!:o

Have you managed to get hold of a copy of the book (How to draw what you see- Rudy de Reyna)this course is based on yet? It will help to have it by you all the way through, though it's not mandatory.
Also...there is a way of not having to read the whole of the thread...use the pdf files (http://www.atreesse.com/wetcanvaspdf.html)
You've done well with the basic exercises...I especially like your 3D circles/balls for their tonal values! I do think that perhaps there was another way of tackling them using straight lines...but am unable to demonstrate it without scanning facilities...so when my other pc is fixed...I will do some! :D Good luck with the chair!:D

rogmonpi
03-04-2008, 04:15 PM
Hello, I just started the lessons and I'm posting my pre-class drawing and the chair drawing. :clap:
I'll put up by challenging drawing later as it is going to take a longer time to finish.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2008/112582-Scan0001.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2008/112582-Scan0002.jpg

Linda39F
03-04-2008, 05:39 PM
Here's my chair results. The first image is of my quick sketch to see what I was in for. :eek: The second image shows the chair I drew using the thumbnail on the pencil measuring technique. Hope that's not considered cheating - :o. I tried to push the darks with my HB pencil, but felt like I was starting to gouge the paper so I backed off some. Oh, and I didn't do any blending here, just pencil shading. In any case, it came out much better than I imagined it would. It's time now for me to attempt my pre-class drawing using straight lines - gulp!

Deirdre - Thanks for moving my pre-class drawing to the proper place. Sorry about that. I bought the book on eBay and should be getting it in the mail any day now, and I'm really looking forward to using it along with these classes. I would really, really love to know how to make those circles 3-D with just straight lines, so if you are able to one day scan some examples that would be awesome. It's great having your guidence.

rogmonpi - Hello! It's great to have someone else in class. That's an awesome car you've drawn for your pre-class assignment. I love going to antique auto shows.

Any comments and critiques are always appreciated!

cmwynn
03-04-2008, 08:33 PM
Rogmonpi

Linda39F
03-07-2008, 12:34 AM
Deirdre, if you're available to continue with your guidance... I did receive Rudy de Ryna's book today and will start reading it to better follow along with these classes.

I've attached my "straight line" version of my pre-class drawing (except for the outlined shapes).

If you (or some other kind soul) would please review my previous chair post and this one and offer some feedback, why I'd be most appreciative! I'm willing to rework or do over anything that I didn't do well enough on or misunderstood what I was supposed to be doing. I don't want to go on to class #2 until someone says I'm ready for it.

Thanks bunches!

*Deirdre*
03-07-2008, 04:32 AM
Linda...there will always be one of us able to come and comment...we may need a nudge now and again...if we're sleeping!:evil: :wink2:

Your line drawing is very good, but you're not quite there yet with the shading using the cross hatch method...but that also means you are getting there!! As I said, when I have my own pc and am able to use the scanner...I'll show you what I mean. As for your chair...it's excellent! The only difference...and I looked hard:evil: :D Was our top left edge of chair...wrong angle and you missed off the floor plane...which you had in the line drawing...helps to ground it! ...but not far wrong...well done!:thumbsup:

nuguy
03-10-2008, 04:08 AM
Hi
I'm nuguy. I've been lurking on WC trying to find my way around and see what's all available. I found this Drawing and Sketching section that is just what I've been looking for. Starting at the beginning of the threads seemed to indicate that these Basis 101 classes were all over - so I kept browsing them and doing some of the lessons on my own. Today I jumped ahead to the end of this first class and found recent posts. Can I join this class?
I'd really like to.

I am currently working on the suggested pre-class assignment. Will post it if it's ok to join. Have also done some of the suggested assignments.


The chatter in these threads is fantastic and very informative. How nice it would have been to been in all that exciting and challenging opening of Basic 101. Have learned so much just lurking and working on my own. Hope it's possible to join.
Thanks,
Sonny

*Deirdre*
03-10-2008, 06:03 AM
Hi Sonny! You are welcome to join all the classes! They are all still current....start with pre-drawing.

Then the first 5 are mandatory for all...then you can join whichever ones you like...or better still...follow the whole course!:wink2:

Jesterjangles
03-11-2008, 08:17 AM
Good morning,
I'm getting ready to do spheres and the chair (that's why I won't be back for a while) LOL Anyway, I did a pre-class assignment and don't know what is meant by 're-doing it in lines only'? Am I misunderstanding? Jesterjangles

Jesterjangles
03-11-2008, 10:05 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2008/81928-scan0002.jpg

These are my cross hatched (somewhat round) spheres. I worked on a sheet of 4x6 paper and it was more challenging to get anything to look like circles than a standard piece of 8x10. The forth one in is the only one I'm satisfied with. I'll continue to practice for them to all come out like that. (I'd done two sheets of 8x14 prior; but they hit the bin before the scanner!)constructive opions greatly appreciated jesterjangles

naoip
03-12-2008, 05:20 PM
Hi what a wonderful thread !! I'm andy i' 42 and new to drawing,i had hoped to jump in at the deep end and use pastels,but i think i was trying to run before i could crawl :o..

Anyhow i've decided to do the basic class in pencil,busy drawing straight lines and circles at the moment..Anyhow thks for a really inspirational forum & tread :wave: andy

naoip
03-12-2008, 09:23 PM
Hi again i just read that post not relevant to the class will be removed,so wanted to stress i will load the assignment asap (need to buy a scanner)..

If ive followed this right,i need to draw :

A pre-assignment sketch.
then straight lines from various angles.
then circles filled with straight lines at various angles.
then re visits my pre-assignment sketch but draw it using straight lines.

I warn you this isn't going to be pretty :D

aj

art dreamer
03-13-2008, 12:40 PM
The last post I see is in 2004. Is this still an active class?

Willemien
03-13-2008, 05:53 PM
Hi art dreamer,

I am not sure where you looked, but the class is still active (maybe not so active as in the beginning) if you look at the last pages (and then backwards) you'll see what I mean.

Best regards, Willy

Jesterjangles
03-13-2008, 07:15 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Mar-2008/81928-scan0005chair.jpg This is the best I can do on the chair, after several attempts. Suggestions and constructive comments welcome! jesterjangles

*Deirdre*
03-14-2008, 06:52 PM
Hi Everyone!:wave: Yes...we are always active...even if it seems like we're sleeping! Which we could be...given the different time zones!:wink2:
If you don't get a reply after 12 or so hours...send a pm to one of the guides or moderators...we all help out when we can!:wink2:

JJ...I like what you've done with circles/balls...if you need them to be rounder try starting with a very light pencil, draw a box , divide into 4 by drawing a cross. then draw the circle using that as framework - before erasing it. You have grasped the shading quite well, though it never hurts to practice...well done!
As for your chair...again...you've done quite well...followed the general shape, slightly wonky/ wobbly in places...and the horizontals are not quite there yet...but an excellent try...no need to redo! Onwards!:thumbsup:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Mar-2008/33616-81928-scan0005chairjj.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Mar-2008/33616-28065-Chairframed.gif

Jesterjangles
03-14-2008, 09:51 PM
*Deidre* Thanks for reminding me that you aren't on Eastern Standard Time ! :0) I appreciate your comments on the circles and chair. I'm ready to make a meal out of perspective:lol: I mean I hope I get it this time, is what I really mean. Thanks much for your input. Jesterjangles

nuguy
03-16-2008, 04:28 PM
Hi again, Deidre:wave:

With PCA post approved, I'm ready to put up my class 1 drawings. Here are the straight lines and spheres with lines. I've been doing pages of them as well as the spheres with straight lines nearly every day. I'm working right handed using both the writing position and the cupped hand position illustrated by JayD's images. I've had a time of it with the cupped position thought. But the drawing from the elbow with using the whole arm is much more comfortable. I sit at my kitchen table with a drawing board braced against it which tilts it somewhat.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Mar-2008/132445-Lines.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Mar-2008/132445-SpheresAndLines.jpg

I also did the chair. I tried it using boxes but it didn't turn out as nice as the thumb and pencil measure one. I placed my horizon line at the first brace across the back of the chair above the seat and my vertical line is the corner of the two walls behind the chair. From there I measured the distances above and below the horizon line ... eyeballing the chair part shapes and the empty spaces between them. This seemed to work a lot easier for me than trying to draw the chair inside the boxes. I suppose there is something I don't yet understand about the 2 stacked boxes???
Anyway, here's my chair.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Mar-2008/132445-Chair.jpg

I actually liked doing the chair though I've never drawn a chair before in my life. I think it was the shadows on the walls and floor that inspired me. I've loved those kind of shadows since I was first crawling on floors. And the chair reminds me of those my grandmother had then. Just looking at the picture I could almost feel the texture of the wood. I loved the lines and curves too.

Am anxiously looking forward to your C&C.:)
Sonny

Willemien
03-16-2008, 05:07 PM
specially the chair... well done :clap: :clap: :clap:
maybe the horizontal lines are a little (but then just a thinny little) out of balance but i know what struggle mine was.

*Deirdre*
03-16-2008, 06:17 PM
Sonny...good exercises! And regarding the chair...very well done...just a little fight with 'what you know to be there' against 'what you can see' on the chair seat...but overall an excellent attempt! It would have been even better had you 'pushed the darks' but by the end of the course...you will!:evil:

I find I can 'see' better if I put my drawing and the ref together...like this
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Mar-2008/33616-chairs.gif
Only it's YOUR drawing!!:evil: :D There is one other difference...but I think you will spot it now! No need to redraw! Onwards!:thumbsup:

MadParrot
03-22-2008, 07:11 AM
Hi, looks like with the db issues my a few posts got eaten, but now the mighty forum beast has been appeased, I shall repost mine:

Great to see a thread like this active for so long. :).

Firstly the challange photo, here is the reference, a sweet little baby butcherbird who was begging for food and ignoring me and the camera:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Mar-2008/80616-bird_edit_tiny.jpg

The free-for-all version:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Mar-2008/80616-bird1.jpg

And the lined version, I was quite pleased with the head, but not the rest (I've never been able to draw the same thing twice!) Wasn't sure how to do the middle part with just lines.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Mar-2008/80616-bird2.jpg

MadParrot
03-22-2008, 07:17 AM
[cont...]

The circles were fun, my favourite was the one under the one in the top-left.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Mar-2008/80616-circles.jpg

And my (quick/rough) attempt at the chair, which appears to have been assembled in the dark by an amateur woodworking class :D Couldn't decide on the shading
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Mar-2008/80616-chair.JPG

And then there's this, which was done in the spirit of the class (more line-y than the bird anyway :)). On the train, was doing random scribbles, which I chucked a Mr. Squiggle and tried to turn into a pool, which somehow morphed into a monorail by the sea, lol
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Mar-2008/80616-train.jpg

Feedback very much appreciated.

naoip
03-22-2008, 09:45 AM
Wowee my laptop hates this site, ive tried to post 5xs lol..

Anyhow my post/pics have gone and u've guess it,i accidentally deleted them :rolleyes:..Im going to work through the book privately,save ur eyes and take this as a omen rofl :wave:

*Deirdre*
03-22-2008, 07:26 PM
Tom...Don't give up! Wait a few days and see if our posts turn up again...if not then redo a little and I'll comment again...same as I'll do with any others that were mislaid during the downtime.

nuguy
03-22-2008, 11:54 PM
Thanks Deidre and Willemien!:wave: :thumbsup:

Some horizontal lines are definitely off!:(

Wow! Thank you, Deidre, for putting the ref photo side-by-side with my drawing. That really makes everything dramatically obvious. You are right! The darks of my drawing are far too light. I can now see several other things that are off too! The back of the chair looks ok to me. But the seat and the rails below are not horizontal. And the right leg (facing the chair) is not far enough to the right either. And the cross peice at the front of the seat is too deep. To say nothing about the floor boards not running in the right direction! What an eye opener - and I didn't even spot these things! It seems I've got a blind-side to overcome???

Thank you both for the great C&C... much appreciated!:)

Deidre? When you say "Onwards!" ... What's my next assignment?

Sonny

BTW ... my phone line just got repaired today. I've been unable to get on-line since I made the post to this class 1 thread. Then, when I first got on to WC, it was down for technical reasons. I'm so glad they got WC back up. I'm anxious to do whatever the next assignment is.

*Deirdre*
03-23-2008, 12:00 AM
Deidre? When you say "Onwards!" ... What's my next assignment?

Sonny
I'm anxious to do whatever the next assignment is.
Over to class 2 of course! That will put things in perspective, you'll see!:wink2: :D

Philbow
04-01-2008, 09:59 PM
I haven't yet succeeded in drawing exclusively from the elbow. I am able to manage well enough with larger, broader work but still revert to "writing" from the wrist for smaller detailed work. I am working on a compromise; the under-hand grip, with motion from the elbow transmitted through the wrist as a pivot. So here are the results.

Kind regards

Phil

art dreamer
04-03-2008, 09:00 PM
Here are my three assignments. They are a bit out of focus. Would love your comments! Don't try to sit in that chair! I could not find the vanishing point on the chair. I drew this upside down and tried to concentrate on the negative space.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Apr-2008/65995-wet_canvas_art_class_lines.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Apr-2008/65995-wet_canvas_art_class_spheres.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Apr-2008/65995-wet_canvas_art_class_chair.jpg

gothicpsyche
04-05-2008, 11:23 AM
Hi, gothicpsyche here, a new member.:wave: I'm really glad this class is still going on! I learned lots of new things, especially:


Drawing on a flat as opposed to an angled surface is a bad habit. I use a drawing board, so I get an angled surface at times. ;) I'll keep this in mind and do so in the future.
Never draw from the wrist -- always try to work with your elbow. Thank you so much for this tip -- it really feels much freer doing this.
The underhand position. I've done it a few times, but somewhat randomly. W00t for a new way of handling pencils!
New stuff such as: electric eraser :eek:, light sources (ott light, magnifier light), and drafting brush.

I posted my drawing challenge in the pre-class assignment thread (found here (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6686198&postcount=545)), but thought I should put it up again :o :
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/130218-WetCanvas_pre-class_studies.jpg


I know I have lots to improve on -- I had a hard time doing the crinkles and folds on the crumpled paper, and getting the proportion and tonal values of the grapes. The cups in both drawings have skewed perspective too. :(

Straight Lines using the writing and underhand position
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/130218-Line_exercises.jpg
I realized that I'm much more comfortable doing straight diagonal lines than horizontal or vertical ones. ^^" I had to make a conscious effort of drawing using the underhand position and drawing from the elbow -- I caught myself reverting a few times to the usual writing/wrist combination. I'll practice doing this until I improve doing straight lines. ;)

20 spheres
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Apr-2008/130218-Spheres.jpg
[Much larger version here (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2388981045_62a8f948af_b.jpg).]

Doing the spheres was loads of fun, thinking of different spherical objects was really cool. My favorite is the squiggly-line sphere, and the beads one. :cat:

Hope this wasn't too long. I'll post the chair and pre-class assignment attempt 2 tomorrow. Looking forward to feedback and guidance. :)

Cheers,
:music: gothicpsyche

crcarson
04-06-2008, 10:28 PM
I have been lurking here for some time, and have been doing a bit of practicing. Here is my pre-work. I was in Italy last year and was so taken by David that it has motivated me to take up pencil and paper again after many years.

This was done on large newsprint, then I took a photo and adjusted brightness/contrast to show it better. After these initial posts, I will switch to 8.5x11 to fit on my scanner, so they should turn out better.

Helpful comments and criticism is very welcome.

crcarson
04-06-2008, 10:34 PM
Here are my spheres and the chair. All of these exercises have been great fun!

Robin Neudorfer
04-10-2008, 12:42 AM
My goodness.. looks like we have a group of you rascals here and the teacher is missing. Might be spring break.... (here in the states)

Phil - I really like your line quality. One thing that you will want to work on in the future is a wider range of values. Move along.

artdreamer - yes a bit out of focus, so I really can't tell your line quality on the spheres. The chair looks good, and that is a great way to study shapes. I just am having trouble finding the back left leg. Not an issue for me because I think this chair belongs in a bonfire, but I trust JayD had his reasons for picking it. Head on over to the next classroom.

gothicpsyche - fun fun work. I love creativity. You get a sticker today. Move along, but don't loose that sense of style while doing your assignments

crcarson - good work. The statue should go into the pre-class assignment thread. It will be saved there until you redo it. YIKES!
I think you did a great job on the chair. I want you to look at your spheres and then take a look at some others. Your largest is shaped using your line work. Nice. Some of the others are just fancy circles. You need to consider for the future and for your own drawing practice, to think about using the lines to describe the shape. Great work, on to Class 2


Nice work from this class!

crcarson
04-12-2008, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the feedback, Robin. I see what you mean on my spheres. I need to do some more practice on the circles to turn them into spheres.

Robin Neudorfer
04-12-2008, 12:23 PM
What I have learned to do is observe objects in real life. If it is spheres you want to understand, get a basic understanding of how to draw it and its vocabulary, then look around you and watch how light falls on the actual objects. See where the core shadow is, where the highlight is. This will help you along in your practice. It is a fundamental shape of art/design, so it is best to learn it correctly. Once learned it becomes basic vocabulary, and you can go on with producing great art.

Have fun with it.

gothicpsyche
04-13-2008, 05:14 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Robin. :heart: *cherishes sticker*

I redid the still-life drawing challenges, and I hope it turned out better. :o I practiced several pages of spheres and drawing from the underhand and elbow-writing position. ^^"

I also tackled the chair (finally). I just realized that I haven't really drawn much cubic objects, much less a chair in my entire life. :eek:
Attached is my first sketch of the chair.

I started working on the seat first, to get a feel of the perspective. The chair looks wonky and proportions are all off. :crying: The seemingly random shades is me tackling the shadows around the chair.:o I'll be drawing the chair several times to practice more and improve, hopefully. :)

sheri
04-18-2008, 03:44 PM
Hi, got my lesson 1 assignments done. I guess it's on to lesson 2. Oh boy, perspective!! I really like perspective.

Sheri

dfurbee
04-21-2008, 09:06 PM
Hello,
I would love to do this class, but I can not download anything. Is there somewhere else to get the images and information? Thanks, Debra

*Deirdre*
04-22-2008, 04:33 PM
Hi Debra! What seems to be the problem? You have to go to the beginning (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223763&page=53) of the thread to get the tutorials and downloads...is that what you mean?

svoby
04-25-2008, 08:10 PM
hi everyone:wave: well i have been practicing overhand underhand writing position ect for days now:rolleyes: so here are my speres (dont think i did those right) the chair and my pca using only lines:o boy was that a challenge hpe to get feed back...not sure who else is doing the class at the moment but what i have seen its all very good
393356
393358


393357
393359

*Deirdre*
04-26-2008, 12:26 PM
Hi Lindee! I have to say...getting the basis of your homework was not easy...I couldn't find it set out...but did eventually here (http://www.atreesse.com/images/class_1.pdf) I knew it was spheres but couldn't remember the precise details....i.e., was it just any sphere or specifically treated! As you can now see...it was spheres formed by lines to act as shading...and although you have one or two, the rest don't fit the brief. However, given that it wasn't clear or easy to find, provided you practice a few on your own, we won't let it hold you back:wink2:
Your chair was reasonably well done...although I think the perspective was a tad off on our right, where the red arrows point to
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Apr-2008/33616-chair-24408dp.gif http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Apr-2008/33616-28065-Chair.jpg
...and the next class should put it into perspective nicely! Onward!!:D

svoby
04-26-2008, 08:56 PM
thanks Deidre i knew the chair had something wrong with it thanks for showing me....as for the speres ooops uploaded the wrong page i did lots and lots of lines and speres scanned all the pages for future ref and kinda got sick of looking at them lol
well i'm off to class 2...perspective......mmmmm could take a while

wetbeeee
04-27-2008, 08:01 PM
Hi *Deirdre*,:wave:

Thank you for your advice.
I am new and this is my first post in drawing. I was very interested in learning from basics. This is almost my passion.

So here is my first drawing the chair. Your comments will help me learn.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Apr-2008/128214-chair.jpg

*Deirdre*
04-27-2008, 08:28 PM
Hi Wetbeee...the chair is just one of the elements to draw for 'homework'..but as you've done I'll comment now then come back he you've one the others:wink2:

You've drawn a fairly accurate chair, a little too long on the almost hidden backleg and skirting board angle is a tad out, but overall very good!!:thumbsup:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Apr-2008/33616-128214-chairwb_copy.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/27-Apr-2008/33616-28065-Chair.jpg

wetbeeee
05-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Thank you *Deirdre*,

Here is my pre class assignment.

*Deirdre*
05-04-2008, 12:28 PM
Hi Wetbeee...this is good...but it's part of your homework for this class...not your preclass assignment!:wink2:

The pre class assignment is any drawing you'd like to choose that you've ALREADY done, prior to joining the class....it's designed to show progress...pre-class...post class! And you post it in here (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221326)

pford
05-17-2008, 03:31 PM
I've completed class 1 and attached are my drawings (lines, spheres, and the dreaded chair). I'll attach my redraw of the pre-assigment in another post. I have to admit, as a beginner, the chair was rather intimidating but I tried my best. Can I go on to class 2 or are there any modifications I need to do here first? Thanks in advance for your help....I'm really excited about this class....did I mention that before already?:)

pford
05-17-2008, 03:46 PM
Here is my redraw of my preassignment. I only did 2 of the four fruit that were on the original preassignment. Hope this is o.k.

Pam

*Deirdre*
05-17-2008, 05:42 PM
I've completed class 1 and attached are my drawings (lines, spheres, and the dreaded chair). I'll attach my redraw of the pre-assigment in another post. I have to admit, as a beginner, the chair was rather intimidating but I tried my best. Can I go on to class 2 or are there any modifications I need to do here first? Thanks in advance for your help....I'm really excited about this class....did I mention that before already?:)
Pam these are good, although some of your spheres look quite flat, but seeing the lovely fruit you've drawn and some of the spheres...I know you can do it very well.:wink2:
The chair is fine ---you'll be drawing a simpler one later! On to class 2!:thumbsup:

Nansketch
05-28-2008, 08:18 PM
Attached is my drawing of 'the chair.' Definitely had to think about how these pieces went together, a little awkward. 12x8in, 2B, HB and a bit of 4B on cheap sketch pad.

C&C always welcome.

Best to all.
Nancy

(can anyone direct me to directions on how to load as a thumbnail, is there a preference thumbnail vs. large?)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-May-2008/141858-CHAIR_002.jpg

*Deirdre*
05-28-2008, 08:50 PM
Nancy,,,very good attempt on the now notorious chair!:thumbsup:
As for size...click on the link in my signature re uploading and size.
Personally, I prefer them in the post, as you've done, as they still show up to refer to when you're replying to the post...whereas, if you do them as a thumbnail attachment, you can't see them to refer to.:D

arnoud3272
06-14-2008, 07:28 PM
Hi everyone,

I submit my class 1 assignments. I read somewhere in this thread that drawing spheres is a good warming-up exercise, so I did a few each day. I scanned the page that was finished on day 3 or so.
I could not figure how to draw the chair as advised, either "within 2 cubes", or "framed". Eventually I just sketched it and scanned. Then in GIMP (or PS) copied the scan to a partially opaque layer over the reference image, scaled and shifted until most features corresponded and then I could correct the other corner. (illustration attached, I found this in another WC! forum)

*Deirdre*
06-14-2008, 09:01 PM
Arnoud...these are all quite good...even the chair, which is notoriously difficult...yet you found a way around it. I especially like the spheres...they will come in very useful! You'll see!:wink2: On to class 2!

arnoud3272
06-15-2008, 03:23 AM
Thank you Deirdre, I am on my way...

arnoud3272
06-27-2008, 08:08 PM
Hi,

I see that my post survived the migration troubles, but the attachments were lost.
For the record, here they are again.

*Deirdre*
07-15-2008, 02:42 AM
Thanks for replacing them Arnoud!:D

Bramblerose
07-22-2008, 05:19 PM
Well,
Here are my attempts. I hope they are aceptable. :)



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Jul-2008/104361-class1lines.jpeghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Jul-2008/104361-chair.jpeg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Jul-2008/104361-class1spheres.jpeghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Jul-2008/104361-apple_lines.jpeg

*Deirdre*
07-26-2008, 05:29 PM
Bramblerose...Hi! These are fine...the chair is not quite there...but it is a hard one...and you did well. Try an ordinary chair...with 4 equal legs!:D

nicolaluna
08-05-2008, 11:08 PM
hello....

very new to wet canvas and wondering, is this class still open? i see the start date is listed as 2003 but theye are still replies.... without going through 5 yrs. worth of posts, can anyone help me by pointing out where i might get started in this class?

is there any general classes guideline or faq, for classes only?

thanks very much!

nicole :rolleyes:

*Deirdre*
08-06-2008, 06:20 AM
Hi Nicola... Welcome to D&S and our classroom...which is always ongoing, even though the original classmates graduated a long time ago! :wink2: The thread you need is here (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221326&page=15)


So...check it out, do your pre-class assignment and post it in there...then you can start here. :wave:

mij
08-09-2008, 11:59 AM
I tried uploading my efforts. Having resized them in the middle of trying and now everything seems to have disapeared. Oh dear, newby alert! Where have I put it? :rolleyes:
jim

mij
08-09-2008, 12:26 PM
I'll have another go.
This should upload my circles, chair and redrawn shed which was nearly all straight lines anyway. I hope I've done right :)
jim

arnoud3272
08-11-2008, 09:08 AM
Hi Jim,

Welcome to the class!
I started a few weeks ago, felt rather lonely with nobody on a comparable level to discuss.
I like your water color works very much. My favorite medium is carving in stone, not much affinity with colors. I think you managed the chair very well. I had a long struggle with it. Then originally it popped up again in class 2! But now you are free to draw another chair, because it was too difficult. Too difficult for class 2, not too difficult for class 1, do you see?
BTW, I think that your scan of exercise 1 of the assignment - the page full of straight lines - came out very light / lol.

mij
08-11-2008, 10:12 AM
Hi there arnoud, it is comforting to have company on any journey for us hoomans innit :) Although methinks you are getting another jim and myself mixed up. I've only put up a couple of water colours and unless you have been particularly diligent in reading back posts you are unlikely to have seen them let alone remember them.

I didn't post my pages of lines .. so yes, they were so feint you didn't see them. :thumbsup: I didn't think we had to so presumed some peeps were over zealous doing H/W. There's always a teacher's pet somewhere innit :)

Ok I'd better get on with the chair and boxen before teach gets back ...
perhaps I'd better sign differently so that peeps don't get their jims mixed up ...
cheers james :wave:

arnoud3272
08-11-2008, 11:32 AM
OK,.. James...

If you click on a member alias you can link to all threads he started and/or posted in. I did see 3 threads started by "mij" in the water color forum. It must be you.

mij
08-11-2008, 02:53 PM
Yes mij it is as jim was already here :) But james will sort it fine unless there is another 'james' lurking here somewhere :)

You can tell that I'm an arnold fan from those 20 minute dvd water colour paintings I put up. I've just manged to order his latest book online and they said it'd be here by 19th august ... but it's out of stock everywhere else! Hmmm I wonder ...

I've taken a look at your site and your carving looks good but very hard work and time consuming. It must take a long time!
james

bjs0704
08-12-2008, 09:26 PM
Hi Jim,

Great job on everything! Be careful when you check things like the chair. Itís easy to get things uneven, like the feet of the chair in both the front and back. The rung on the underside of the chair and the bottom of the seat. Thatís why this is such a great exercise! Your shed and the circles are pretty good too.

Barb:cat:

bjs0704
08-12-2008, 09:31 PM
Hi Arnoud,

I peeked at some of your sculpting work. Very nice!:thumbsup:

Barb:cat:

mij
08-13-2008, 05:01 AM
Thanks barb, I've only just dropped back and seen this. I wasn't sure if things are still being monitored. They obviously are :)
Cheers
james

nicolaluna
08-14-2008, 02:10 AM
Hi Nicola... Welcome to D&S and our classroom...which is always ongoing, even though the original classmates graduated a long time ago! :wink2: The thread you need is XXX

So...check it out, do your pre-class assignment and post it in there...then you can start here. :wave:
hi deirdre~ looks like i"m going to need a scanner or a digital camera before i can participate, silly but i was so excited i forgot about that.

hope to see you soon.... :rolleyes:

Mwp1988
09-11-2008, 03:39 PM
I'm not sure if I did this right but here ya go.
I did the spheres and the pre-assignment which I posted in the pre-assignment thread and then I redid it as the assignment said.

I'm having problems upload the images so I will just link to them

so....

Spheres:
http://summoningdreams.deviantart.com/art/20-Spheres-97652065


Redo Pre-assignment in LINE:
http://summoningdreams.deviantart.com/art/Lines-and-Shade-97652447

bjs0704
09-11-2008, 04:01 PM
Mwp1988 - Nice job! It takes time and practice to get spheres, but, your drawings are looking really good.

One thing to remember - one common mistake is to make ellipses a little pointy, almost a football shape. In your jar, it almost does that.

Great job!

Barb S.:cat:

spclvr
09-12-2008, 01:37 PM
Hi Deirdre, :wave:
I posted my preworks sometime ago. Since then I was in a limbo state, somehow the basics slow me down and I keep staring, hard to motivate myself but I'm here, kicking myself to do the right thing ! I am attaching the chair, spheres and lines. Off to reading chapter 2 perspective, meanwhile pl. let me know my next steps :cat:

*Deirdre*
09-12-2008, 02:19 PM
Hi Sandya...welcome to the class,,,these are all good attempts....you'll soon realise just how hard they were, when you do the next couple of classes. Although these are the boring bits, they are the foundation of all drawing...so worth the time you spend on them! On to the next class!:thumbsup:

bjs0704
09-12-2008, 03:59 PM
Good going! It's great to see your post!

I know that these first pieces can seem to much like an "exercise". It's more fun when you can focus on things that you enjoy more.

You are doing pretty well, so I hope to see more of you work!

Barb:cat:

robertsloan2
09-21-2008, 05:15 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2008/70184-IMG_0009.jpg

Hello! My name is Robert, and while I'm pretty good at drawing, I'm doing a refresher in this course. I've also gotten bumped back from getting interested by topic in the later section on material folds, something I hadn't done since I was taking classes as a kid. Otherwise I'd have gone for the 102 course, since I started with drawing rather than painting and my strongest mediums are still pencil and colored pencils.

I've done a Pre-Assignment drawing that represents a current problem I have. I can draw realistically just fine as long as I have a real object to draw or a good photo. I can combine multiple photos or work from bad photos and change them. I can change the lighting by imagination. But I am having a HUGE problem with a commission I have in progress. I found a good reference for one of the two cheetahs in the sketch (the loosely sketched background one is just lazily loosely sketched to show where it goes), and I have good detailed campfire studies to work from for the fire that they are circling.

What I don't have is a good reference for the foreground cheetah. I tried doing it just from imagination and at first glance, there are two problems. One is that the pose is stiff. The other is that instead of adult cheetahs, my sketches have the proportions of big-headed cubs that are shorter and stockier than the photo cheetahs.

I need help with this and will ultimately need to develop it in a way that I can integrate it with the other elements of the pastel painting I'm doing -- I'll be doing the final version 9 x 12" on dark blue Colourfix paper with pastel pencils for the finer details... but until the sketch is right, I do not want to proceed with the background or the cheetah that I can get right from the photo.

robertsloan2
09-21-2008, 05:17 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2008/70184-IMG_0008.jpg

Straight lines. I read the PDF and did all the exercises. I started this one when I started reading the thread and then found the PDF and read the whole thing.

robertsloan2
09-21-2008, 05:21 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2008/70184-IMG_0012.jpg

More straight lines, without turning my 4 x 6" sketchbook. I usually freehand straight lines and if I slow down, they're cleaner. They're also mysteriously cleaner if I'm doing a horizon or a building where the straight line is part of a context as opposed to an exercise in doing straight lines. I was always pretty good at straight lines in context, and stopped using a ruler years ago unless I wanted mathematical perfection.

Weirdly, when I paid attention to it and did this in my usual way while holding the pencil in writing position, I noticed that my usual habit is to move from the elbow -- not something I realized I was doing most of the time because I usually work very small, ACEO size or 4 x 6". I have disabilities including some chronic fatigue and right-side weakness that make it hard to work with an unsupported arm like working large or vertical on an easel. Yet somehow in my habits I went to balancing my elbow as a pivot on my leg or arm of the chair when drawing. I pay attention to ergonomics to try to reduce the stress on my body -- I'll get tendonitis or something if I don't do things exactly right to compensate for my skeletal crookedness and always have to work slumped to the left in a squashy armchair with padded arms.

But I worked from the elbow without even thinking about it and that's freaky. I think it's because I usually support my wrist in some way or I get too tired.

robertsloan2
09-21-2008, 05:23 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2008/70184-IMG_0011.jpg

This is in underhand/cupped position. Some of them are actually cleaner and straighter than my usual position, but they also wound up wider and more angled. I don't usually use this position much, it's not as comfortable but it is just as controlled. Where I use it most often if I do at all is in shading when I want the point of the pencil on a very shallow angle to the paper.

robertsloan2
09-21-2008, 05:26 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2008/70184-IMG_0010.jpg

It took major mental effort not to curve the hatching and crosshatching lines around these spheres. My freehand circles aren't perfect, but they're usually not too bad and if I'm drawing something spherical like a marble, I will usually go lightly and then compensate for the irregularities while shading it. Or before inking it, which is another thing I've done often.

Getting back to these basic exercises has been good. It always is. Heh by the time I'm sixty maybe I'll be doing Michelangelo's perfect freehand circle thing... I could not see how to do a wicker one without curving the lines to show the globe, and I stuck to straight lines throughout.

robertsloan2
09-21-2008, 05:28 PM
(Bops self on head for not setting out one of the marbles for doing the straight-line crosshatching exercise!)

robertsloan2
09-21-2008, 05:39 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Sep-2008/70184-IMG_0013.jpg

I had to do it. These things have been driving me nuts in Prismacolors for about three months now and I'm loony proud of it when I get them looking transparent. It's that recently that I first did. So this is my best sphere-constrained-to-straight-lines shading.

*Deirdre*
09-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Hi Robert...glad to see you've joined us! It's always good to do refreshers, whether we need to or not, it keeps you focussed!

You've done well with the lines and spheres, especially the last one...I would suggest you give the chair a miss at this stage....you'll come across it later anyway! On to class 2!

NB...Please try to keep all your pictures together in one or two posts! Makes it easier all around and doesn't push too many posts down the line!

robertsloan2
09-21-2008, 06:36 PM
Thanks! Much appreciated -- I'm sure I'll get to the chair later. Most of my serious art is wildlife, landscapes, florals and occasional portraits, so I don't have a whole lot of practice doing home furnishings of various kinds the way I would with a rose or a bird or a cat.

I split my posts up into separate posts so that it wouldn't be one honking long post with all those pics in it, but I'll keep that in mind -- I guess it does take up less space that way. Sorry.

macCALICOmac
09-24-2008, 11:05 AM
Hi
I am new here, and very excited to start this, albeit very nervous...

I have not done 20 spheres, and tried to save paper by doing smaller drawings? Is this wrong?

Hope it's ok.

It's the spheres (one I didn't like I crossed out), my chair (which looks horribly skew) and a rough sketch of a picture that has been intimidating me (minus the ice - I have no clue where to even start with the ice, so I have just roughly outlined it).

I hope I got a full understanding of what was required, if not, I will try again.

Thanks
Pippahttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Sep-2008/155147-Class1.jpg

*Deirdre*
09-24-2008, 02:54 PM
Hi Pippa...welcome to the classroom! These are good...so on to the next class officially!:wink2: Could you please pop your pre assignment in the pre assignment thread ?

macCALICOmac
09-24-2008, 02:59 PM
OOPS! Sorry, will do right away... thanks! :)

Amit_S
10-05-2008, 08:38 AM
Hye!
This is my 1st post here:)
I would like to thank wetcanvas and all the moderators who are currently working on this drawing basics class. You Rock!

There was one confusing thing about doing the pre-class drawing with straight lines. In this i'm simply supposed to do the straight lines as a means of shading the drawing? Thats what I've tried to do at this point.

I'm kindda a noob here as I've never had any formal training in drawing.

Here are my drawings

409789

409790

409791

This pre-class subject is from Boris Vallejo

Amit_S
10-18-2008, 12:22 PM
One week+ and still not a single critique:(
Anyways, heres some more stuff:

101:
I didnt read that we are supposed to do this with an underhand grip...hence did it again with that grip. I start my drawings with this as a warm up- circles and straight lines inside them- all underhand grip.
412931

Heres the chair:
412932

*Deirdre*
10-18-2008, 12:29 PM
Sorry Amit_S...had meant to go back...never mind...it's given you more time to practice...and see the difference! :D It's always a good idea, go back read the question several times, be sure you know what is required before investing time in answering. You've done these very well...I'm sure you did the lines too....so on to the next class.:thumbsup: You might want to move the perspectives to the next class? Class 2 of 101 NB I've moved it for you!

Amit_S
10-18-2008, 12:44 PM
Hye Deirdre
Thnx for the thumbs up!
For a moment there I thought my upload did not go through...so we have seperate threads for every class eh...jeez..didnt know that.

Straight lines- yup- I did them too with an underhand grip- howeever for some reason it was just not scanning- the scan used to show up as only a quarter of the page. Had the same use with 3 more pages containing rough perspective drawings....
dont know what the problem is.

Just call me Amit. Thats my 1st name.

bjs0704
10-18-2008, 09:16 PM
Hi Amit - Your lines look great! The chair are looking good too! The perspective of the wall is a little off, but, you will get to that later. Great job!

Barb:cat:

Digi0Person
12-25-2008, 04:33 PM
I hope no one misses this post. I'm looking for feedback, but I just started the lessons, yesterday.

Digi0Person
12-25-2008, 04:34 PM
Hi, hopefully someone sees this post. I have just now started on the lessons. My project is this photo. My drawing below it.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../Community/images/25-Dec-2008/166267-scene_to_draw.jpg

My drawing:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../Community/images/25-Dec-2008/166267-Project_No_Lessons.JPG



Now, I know that this will be a lot of images, but here are the lesson assignments:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../Community/images/25-Dec-2008/166267-Spheres.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../Community/images/25-Dec-2008/166267-Chair.JPG

Sorry, about the sides, my scanner does it when I scan directly out of my sketchbook. Finally, I have the line drawing of my project picture.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/../Community/images/25-Dec-2008/166267-Project_Lesson_1.JPG

Well, that's it for lesson 1.

*Deirdre*
12-25-2008, 08:07 PM
Hi Digioperson...Welcome to the class! Before you submitted your first assignment you should have read the introduction = Pre-class assignment and submitted the requisite drawing... Back tomorrow!:wave:

bjs0704
12-26-2008, 12:42 AM
Hi Digi0Person !

Thatís such a pretty scene!!!


Welcome to class! Itís really nice to meet you!:wave:

Youíve got a nice start! Iím looking forward to seeing more!:thumbsup:

Barb :cat:

FlyingPhoenix
12-26-2008, 01:43 PM
Drawing was my scary part, I like to draw, but never could draw something looks real, flowers and trees are ok, but human face, cups, furniture .... normally I avoided them. But after I found this class, I think I can start again, to improve my draw skill is very important. So here's my pre-class chair.
Thank you, Jayd. I am glad you point out to use elbow not to use wrist to control the pencil. This is "aha" point for me.:clap:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Dec-2008/107675-Pre-class_small.jpg

I will keep doing the rest the assignment. Come back soon.

Amit_S
12-26-2008, 07:24 PM
Hye!
Welcome to WC!

About your 2nd chair- I'm no mod- but really grt work:thumbsup:

FlyingPhoenix
12-26-2008, 08:51 PM
Haha, I am done all the assignment here.:clap:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Dec-2008/107675-Lines_-_writing_position.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Dec-2008/107675-Lines_-_Underhand.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Dec-2008/107675-Spheres_-_writing_position.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Dec-2008/107675-Spheres_-_Underhand.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Dec-2008/107675-Chair_-_Filld_with_Lines.jpg

*Deirdre*
12-26-2008, 09:41 PM
You certainly have done all of class one....what you haven't done is the pre class assignment...found here! (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221326&page=16):wink2:

FlyingPhoenix
12-27-2008, 12:17 AM
You certainly have done all of class one....what you haven't done is the pre class assignment...found here! (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221326&page=16):wink2:

Sorry, that was a misunderstanding. I posted my pre-class drawing here, another chair. I will move it to where it should stay.

Thanks.

Blade21292
01-08-2009, 01:24 AM
woot! Lines lines and more lines... Funny was noticing that I forgot and dated them 2008

*Deirdre*
01-14-2009, 12:53 PM
Jonathan - Welcome to the Classroom...your lines and the chair are fine for this lesson but part of the homework was to produce some 3d balls using just lines....you've done yours well as 2D... but take a look though the thread to see what your classmates submitted...then try doing a few more in 3D please.:)

Cica1
01-14-2009, 07:27 PM
Hi Everyone.... if anyone's here anymore.... I noticed the date on the last post and wondered if this class was still going on... or what's happening with it? I would like to participate, but am not sure how to go 'bout it.

Happy drawing!

*Deirdre*
01-14-2009, 10:49 PM
The date on the last post was today! Are you sure you didn't look at the date the thread was first posted?
Never mind, you've found us! Welcome to the classroom! The first thing you need to do is read the pre-class assignments (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221326&page=16) thread, and follow the instructions to post in that thread...then, when instructed, you can begin the class in this one!:wave:

Cica1
01-15-2009, 12:34 PM
Thanks, *Deirdre*. I can't wait to get started!

Cica1
01-15-2009, 06:37 PM
Ok, Here's my lines, 3D circles, and the line drawing as the instructions say.

Here's my work thus far:

Lines:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jan-2009/170253-lines.jpg

Circles:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jan-2009/170253-Circles_in_lines.jpg


Step 4--redo your original drawing this time in LINES only just like you did with the spheres. This was really easy, cuz the pony is basically all lines! lol.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jan-2009/170253-Pony_in_lines.jpg

Chair:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jan-2009/170253-My_Chair.jpg

nailslinger
01-16-2009, 11:16 AM
Following are lines, balls/circles,line sketch of my pre-assignment picture and the chair. I have completed two additional pages of lines the same size as the one in the picture which I can post if you really want to see them.

My prospective is off in the chair. I drew it as if I were looking down on the seat instead of more eye level as it is photographed.

I believe that I have completed the first class. If I need to sit in the corner or post additional homework please let me know. Perhaps you want me to write "I will not talk in class" or "I will not talk back to the teacher" one thousand times. Seems that was fairly common occurrence for me back in the day.

Richmond

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Jan-2009/115284-c-101.jpg

*Deirdre*
01-16-2009, 01:33 PM
Nailslinger...you have managed to pass class 1 without having to 'sit in the corner'! Phew!:D on to class 2!:thumbsup:

Cica1 you have done the exercises well too, on to class 2!:thumbsup:

radhesh
01-21-2009, 04:58 AM
I posted in class 3 first,
didnt read the rules properly,
i am sorry for that mistake.
I shall now make a fresh start....:thumbsup:
Do I have to do any more homework:D
Thanks for all the great work everyone around here,
Radhesh

ldB08
01-25-2009, 09:07 PM
I can find no mention of preassignments and balls and chairs in lesson 1...no demonstrations...I'm missing something here. I had to go through 4 years of conversations and posts to glean out that the assignment must indeed be balls and chairs and something original, although interesting...I simply do not have the time nor inclination to repeat that time wasting endeavour with each lesson. I see, now, after a good deal of searching around that I can jump back and forth to another site to read the assignment details listed quite plainly in the PDF. The problem is then I miss out on the feedback etc offered here...I would just be working on my own guessing at how it's going along. What do you suppose I am doing wrong from my end.:confused: Computors :( Art:)

kadon
01-26-2009, 02:08 AM
My guess is that you are not doing anything wrong Id. I too have been following this thread hoping to join in and had the same problem...but I've noticed that some people are recently drawing objects that started with this particular thread...just back one or two pages. I was beginning to think of having a go...but will await further advice.

*Deirdre*
01-26-2009, 03:54 AM
The first thing to do is to read the thread titles...then read the one that says read first!
The second thing to do is to start with the first post in each thread, In the first few posts you will find the assignments....

ldB08
01-26-2009, 09:15 PM
I have arrived!:clap: These are the assignment for class 1 which I worked on while bumbling around with the computor learning how to get around WC. :D

Robin Neudorfer
01-27-2009, 03:08 AM
Good line work. That will come in handy often.
As far as the spheres, the lines haven't been used to help create the shape. You will need to be able to do that as you move forward.

The chair is not the same proportion as the photo. If you are going to be drawing from life or photos you will need to be able to eyeball the proportions of the object that you are drawing. It is adequate for this class.

Good job, you have completed this class.

ldB08
01-27-2009, 01:24 PM
Thanks Robin!

Eldy

radhesh
01-28-2009, 10:34 AM
Do i need to do anything else??

I hope i pass;)

radhesh

*Deirdre*
01-28-2009, 11:07 AM
This is good Radhesh...You just need to post the other homework pieces...Lines ect!

Robin Neudorfer
01-28-2009, 12:53 PM
Your chair looks good Radhesh, though a bit unsure. Confidence will come with more practice.

You may move on, but please look at spheres, and similar shapes to see how your lines can help define the form. Practice in a sketchbook, drawing simple shapes, and over time you will see an improvement.

Enjoy

radhesh
01-29-2009, 03:05 AM
This is good Radhesh...You just need to post the other homework pieces...Lines ect!


Thankyou for appreciating my work,
I have already posted the lines and spheres before drawing the chair,
Do i need to do any more homework for Class I,
Thankyou ,
Radhesh

radhesh
01-29-2009, 03:11 AM
Your chair looks good Radhesh, though a bit unsure. Confidence will come with more practice.

You may move on, but please look at spheres, and similar shapes to see how your lines can help define the form. Practice in a sketchbook, drawing simple shapes, and over time you will see an improvement.

Enjoy

Thank you Robin for all the good advise and the appreciation,
I will surely practice more with lines and simple figures and shapes.
Thank you so much,
Radhesh

Rose4U
01-29-2009, 05:59 PM
Took me for ever to get around to doing this lesson :o

Robin Neudorfer
01-30-2009, 03:54 PM
Hi Rosanne -
Really great job on those spheres, that practice will go a long way in the future classes. The lines are fine. do take time and practice all sorts of lines. We use thick and thin, long and short, hatched, etc. This was not expected of this class, but do be aware of the differences and see how they are used in sketching as an expressive drawing tool.

Your chair looks fine except for the left side by the seat. It appears as if the back is bent. It might be a part of the seat that meets the back, but it is at the wrong angle. It would angle toward the same vanishing point as the right side does. If you would fix that and re-post we can move you along.

Rose4U
01-31-2009, 12:34 AM
Thank You Robin,:)
Here is the chair again. It's realy giving me a hard time :mad:

Robin Neudorfer
02-01-2009, 12:43 AM
I don't think it is you Rosanne, I think it is the photo. My frustration with it is that I am not sure it was chosen with a beginner in mind. I think you did a fine job.

Move right along.

trich
02-06-2009, 08:09 AM
I found the face difficult. It's the third version

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2009/106078-circles.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2009/106078-chair.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Feb-2009/106078-portrait.jpg

redhickorygirl
02-06-2009, 07:16 PM
My Lord! That chair!

All angles are different, and now my hair is going in as many different ways!

I didn't redraw the stuffed animal that I did pre-class, but I will repost it here. I'm not redrawing because I used these techniques when I did it the first time, although not first rate.

Please don't make me redraw the chair! Don't beat me, don't beat me!! I promise I'll work on it when I can spend more time on it.

redhickorygirl
02-08-2009, 09:08 PM
Okay, I redrew the chair.

I'm not entirely happy with it, spacing on the back, angle of the top/back, but I do think it's better than the first try. Since I'll be redrawing this from another eye level in Lesson 2, I'll just go with this one, and refine my techniques as I go. May I have your permission to move forward?

*Deirdre*
02-09-2009, 06:40 AM
Trich...you did a good job drawing - so you Can move to class two! You'll do faces much later on so we can discuss it then::)


RedHG...You have also done well...glad you chose that chair...you drew it well! Move to class two!:wave:

NokNoi
02-17-2009, 03:39 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2009/178400-Art_Pictures_005_Resized.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2009/178400-Art_Pictures_002.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2009/178400-Art_Pictures_006_Resized.jpgFinally have finished my lines and spheres, that terrible chair, and the line drawing of my pre-class drawing. I think it has taken me almost as long to figure out how to resize the images as it did to draw them. Now I have my fingers crossed that I have made it into class 2. It is lonely here by myself:crying:

NokNoi
02-17-2009, 03:42 AM
Sorry about the double images. The first time it told me they were too large and I resized them and sent them again. I really am not that pleased with them to show them twice. Will try to do better next time. Luanna

*Deirdre*
02-17-2009, 11:08 AM
Luanna...I have removed the doubles for you! :wink2:

As for your drawing...they are fine...you might want to practice the 3D balls, but it won't stop you going on to the next class!:thumbsup:

mabeloos
04-06-2009, 11:11 PM
Here are my drawings, along with the reference photo that I used. I got discouraged somewhere along the way by the amount of detail I thought I had to include in the drawings, but by choosing a focus for the image, I think it simplified the composition a lot, and possibly improved the drawing a little bit. Phew! It took a lot of concentration...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2009/179965-blue_cabbage_CROP.jpg

This was the pre-requisite drawing:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2009/179965-cabbageHead01.jpg

Here are the lines and spheres, respectively:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2009/179965-wetCanvas_lines.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2009/179965-wetCanvas_balls.jpg

And here is the cabbage drawing, drawn in cross-hatch using 2B, 3B, 4B, and 10B pencils.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Apr-2009/179965-wetCanvas_cabbageHead02.jpg

sharat
04-12-2009, 03:33 AM
Thanks for allowing me to participate in this class.

My posts for lesson one are attached. For me the biggest challenge is to use my elbows and not wrists. Quite difficult when I try doing small lines like in the sphere and getting the shape on the chair. I do see the difference. I get bolder strokes but almost no control! But as you say it will need Practice and some more.

HAts off to WC and the moderators/trainers for doing this course free for us!

Sharathttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Apr-2009/66609-lesson1-lines.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Apr-2009/66609-lesson1-spheres.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Apr-2009/66609-lesson1-chair.jpg

*Deirdre*
04-12-2009, 07:47 PM
Mi - welcome to the classroom! Your work is fine and I also think the cabbage is good...On to class 2!

Sharat -welcome to the classroom! Your work is fine also....the chair is not quite there...but as you will find out...it is a very difficult choice of chair...you'll meet it again! On to class 2!

Terry Renner
04-12-2009, 09:08 PM
This class sounds so interesting, and I'd like to join. However, I can't locate any date more recent than 2004. Is this an on-going project or an archive?
Also, I can't open the first message/information regarding the class, the part before "Class 1". What am I not doing correctly?

*Deirdre*
04-13-2009, 06:26 AM
Hi Terry...welcome to the classroom...firstly, the beginning of this thread is here
(http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223763&page=55)
Secondly...you need to go to the pre-class thread (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555712&page=17) first! and lastly...the last post to this thread wasn't 2004...it was yesterday!!

Terry Renner
04-13-2009, 04:05 PM
Oh, Deirdre, Thank you so much for your help. I just couldn't seem to connect with the introduction site. Haven't read it yet, that's next. Being so new to this site I just didn't know always where to look for the date, so sorry. On top of that my computer isn't working properly, but in a couple of weeks I will get some help there, too. Then, my scanner is not functional, so I have to wait for that, too.
In the meantime, I will start on the lessons if that's OK. It's been a long time since I did much drawing and am afraid I've lost all of any confidence I ever had. So, this appears to be just what the doctor ordered! What a lucky find for me.
The work I've seen so far I just beautiful, quite a nice compliment to the teachers here.
Enough jabber for now, and Thank You for being and making this available.:wave:

mjfsmju7
04-13-2009, 11:07 PM
basic drawing is amazing . I will complete every exercise. Many thanks. mjfsmju7

*Deirdre*
04-14-2009, 03:09 PM
basic drawing is amazing . I will complete every exercise. Many thanks. mjfsmju7
Are you planning to join the class? If so...read the pre-class thread please.

Terry Renner
04-16-2009, 12:14 AM
Deidre, please forgive my absence, really didn't mean to offend anyone. :o I've been pretty busy just figuring out the site/sites here. Have also done some bit of exercises as described for the first class, which as you know I can't exhibit, but maybe in a few weeks. I'm just hoping that I will be elegible to join the classes, and to gain your permission to continue. Am really curious as to what my future work might look like.

I have things sorted out now, have found and read the pre-class material as requested. Very informative and instructive. Love the attitude, as in "the mechanics" of drawing.:cat: Have never encountered that before and highly approve.

Best Wishes to All,

*Deirdre*
04-16-2009, 12:31 PM
Deidre, please forgive my absence, really didn't mean to offend anyone. ,
You didn't offend anyone...I think you misread the post before yours...thinking it applied to you...:wink2: :D

Terry Renner
04-16-2009, 03:23 PM
Thanks, Deirdre. Now I need to know if I should proceed, even without being able to post any pictures for awhile?

wedhatted
04-16-2009, 05:34 PM
Here's my assignments for class 1. The chair was very much a challenge, I still didn't quite get it, the chairs right front leg is too high I think. Or is it the right front that is too low?

Diane

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2009/125661-lines.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2009/125661-lines2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2009/125661-balls.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Apr-2009/125661-chair.jpg

*Deirdre*
04-17-2009, 07:22 PM
Diane...these are fine...you did a good job on the chair...but it's not perfect...don't panic though...the vast majority get it wrong to varying degrees....why? Because it's a really difficult one to draw!!! If I could take it out, I would!!:evil: :D SO...on to class 2!!

wedhatted
04-17-2009, 07:52 PM
Thanks Deirdre. See you in Class 2!

*Deirdre*
04-17-2009, 08:00 PM
Thanks Deirdre. See you in Class 2!:D Nope...that'd be Robin!!:D

jacquip
04-19-2009, 04:31 AM
Hi there
Here are my drawings for class 1. Not really sure what I was meant to do with the lines but tried a few angles and prefer holding pencil underhand for long lines. Tended to be straighter too. Had a play with the circles and came up with a few ideas.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Apr-2009/185124-class1-lines.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Apr-2009/185124-class1--circles.jpg

The chair was hard. I know it still isn't right. The seat is the wrong angle but I kept trying to fix it and it didn't seem to get anywhere. Not too sure about the rest of it. Hopefully not too bad. I put the shadow in to try and give it a bit of depth. I liked the way it angled from the floor to the wall. I hope it got that bit right.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Apr-2009/185124-class1--chair.jpg

Am I ready for the next class?
Thanks for the great info and class. BTW I don't have access to the book. Is it alright to proceed anyway.
Thanks
Jac

Samira Humaid
04-19-2009, 09:42 AM
Hello Deirdre,
Here are my assignments for Class 1. The chair was so difficult!. When I would straighten it from one side, it would start looking lop-sided from the other!!!. Enjoyed drawing it though. http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Apr-2009/79124-Wet_Canvas._DrSk_001.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Apr-2009/79124-Wet_Canvas._DrSk_002.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Apr-2009/79124-Wet_Canvas._DrSk_003.jpg

arnoud3272
04-19-2009, 03:56 PM
Jac - Drawing straight lines is a useful exercise for improving the basic drawing movement. Your lines are rather curves. Try also to vary, in a controlled way, the pressure: from very light to as dark as possible, and the other way round. You don't have to post again, but my advice is to practice this regularly as a warming up.
Your spheres and chair are very good. The chair is hard, but no worries, you get a second chance next class :evil:.
The assignment for class 1 includes also redrawing your pre-class challenge with straight line shading, but I see the original drawing is already for a large part rendered with straight lines, so yes, you are ready for the study of perspective, class 2 :thumbsup:.
BTW, the book is not required, all essential information is given in the class threads.

arnoud3272
04-19-2009, 04:20 PM
Samira -

Your spheres are very good :thumbsup:.
The chair is also up to the standard, given its complexity and besides, well ... it waits for you in next class :evil:.
Your pre-class drawing is very much based on lines, so you may start the next class. Your interest seems to be buildings, that is one of those subjects where perspective really matters. There is some discussion on who invented perspective, but is was definitely further developed by architects.
On your question when to redraw your "challenge", that is up to the pupil to decide. For some subjects it is easier to suggest than for buildings, e.g. a portrait could be redrawn as a free exercise in one of the classes on portraiture.

Samira Humaid
04-19-2009, 04:33 PM
Thanks arnoud.

jacquip
04-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Thanks for the feedback Arnoud. I see what you mean about my lines. I hadn't noticed it before. I will be sure to practice them more.
Jac

kadon
04-20-2009, 12:37 AM
Just posting this on 'quick reply' to see if it works. Have been trying this morning and this afternoon to post images, but nothing happens....so..testing testing.

Kathy

Well that worked...but pics still won't upload:confused: :confused: :confused:

Tried attachments tool...and bingo!

ArtConch
04-20-2009, 12:27 PM
Here is my lines practise. I liked the two different ways to hold the pencil
They really do give lots more control working from the elbow. Took a good few tries before I came up with these. I found it really interesting how different the marks made if you did them turning the paper and not turning
Thanks a lot of this class. I feel lots more confident with my straight lines now. And can see how useful they will be for warm ups. :cat:


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2009/185716-quick_writingposition_lines_csky.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2009/185716-writingposition_lines_csky.jpg

ArtConch
04-20-2009, 12:29 PM
Here are my lines using the palm position.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2009/185716-palm_position_lines_csky.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2009/185716-quick_palm_position_lines_csky.jpg

ArtConch
04-20-2009, 12:33 PM
Here are my 20 circles. It does take a lot of practise to produce confident circles in one sweep from the elbow. At first I felt I was in circle hell LOL
Then eventually I found a way of moving the elbow in the circle direction
a few times to pick up some momentum before lowering it to the paper, that seemed to produce much nicer circles :cat:
Im still waiting for the course book to arrive from amazon, then I will read the perspective lesson advised.
Im going off to work on my pre-instruction drawing using my new found skills. Once I get my book I'll work on the chair. Thanks again for this awesome opportunity to work on my weaknesses :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2009/185716-circles1_csky.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Apr-2009/185716-circles2_csky.jpg

arnoud3272
04-20-2009, 04:45 PM
Hi ArtConch,
On the side: do you prefer to be called by your nickname?

Very good lines practice. I also like the creativity in your circles. As a matter of fact, we were supposed to make them look like spheres :evil:. But you did it on some, and many are decorated with straight lines, so that is OK for now. You will revisit the spheres in one of the next classes.


Im still waiting for the course book to arrive from amazon, then I will read the perspective lesson advised.
Once I get my book I'll work on the chair.
There are many perspective tutorials on the internet, one that I like very much (http://www.scottmcdaniel.net/drawing/perspective/perspective.html) is illustrating it with comics. Sounds funny, and it is, but it is also very thorough.
And :evil: the chair :evil: did not come from the book.

kadon
04-20-2009, 07:24 PM
It's me again Arnaud.....what do I do next? Kathy

arnoud3272
04-21-2009, 04:12 AM
Kathy -
I think you are ready for class 2 :thumbsup:. You skipped the chair, as far as I can see, but if you promise to tackle it in next class, you may move.:evil: In class 1 the chair is just another practice for getting acquainted with the pencil and the basic movement and you don't need that. In class 2, the challenge of the chair is to apply the correct perspective.
Yes, move on :thumbsup:

kadon
04-21-2009, 04:35 AM
Okey dokey Arnaud....sorry about the chair: :crying: ...but will pay close attenton to perspective I assure you: :wink2: Have already bookmarked the link you gave and will study same...I promise.

Now.....to find Class 2....mmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Kathy

cathy~o
04-23-2009, 12:42 AM
Well, here are my lines and spheres, sorry they are so light, they are darker in person, the flash washed them out a bit. I do need to press a little harder though. I tried both methods of holding the pencil and discovered that for me, the writing position gave me straighter lines, wasn't as hard as I thought to work with the elbow either.
Will try the chair tomorrow (I did one tonight but it is my grandson's rocking chair and not the one in the class pic) and see if I can dig up my pre class drawing to redo.
Cathy

arnoud3272
04-23-2009, 04:30 AM
Cathy -
You're doing fine :thumbsup:. There is an article (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=493891) on photographing and enhancing of drawings in the Tips and Tricks section. There are also free image manipulation programs, see e.g. here (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203090)

ArtConch
04-23-2009, 10:19 AM
Hi ArtConch,
On the side: do you prefer to be called by your nickname?

Very good lines practice. I also like the creativity in your circles. As a matter of fact, we were supposed to make them look like spheres :evil:. But you did it on some, and many are decorated with straight lines, so that is OK for now. You will revisit the spheres in one of the next classes.


There are many perspective tutorials on the internet, one that I like very much (http://www.scottmcdaniel.net/drawing/perspective/perspective.html) is illustrating it with comics. Sounds funny, and it is, but it is also very thorough.
And :evil: the chair :evil: did not come from the book.
Thanks for talking the time Arnoud to give me your excellent feedback on my lines and circles. Im looking forward to more information about light and shade in spherical shapes. I think my shading sucks, so thats why I went a bit off the wall with my circles, which were more like doodles that what was asked of for the assignment, so Im so happy you are letting me off the hook for the moment heheheh
Thanks also for the great link to learning more about perspective too, this will help lots. Now that I have the book, im gonna settle down, read the basics and the perspective chapter too, do my chair from the photo
and submit my pre-instruction drawing once more. Ive been busier than expected this week with RL.
Just call me Artconch :cat:

cathy~o
04-23-2009, 03:22 PM
Well, here is my chair, I am pretty sure the back at least is off. Took many tries to get it like this though :)
Not sure what to do with my original pre class drawing, all the shading on it was already done with straight lines and scribbles since I didn't know any other way to shade things then. Should I still do it over?
BTW, thanks for the links, I do have Irfanview but sometimes it just won't do what I want it too!
Cathy

arnoud3272
04-23-2009, 07:35 PM
Cathy -

Your drawing of the chair is fine :thumbsup:. It is a real challenge, even for advanced pupils. You are very dedicated, I think you are ready to start the study of perspective.
Move on to class 2 :clap:!

pug307
04-24-2009, 05:33 AM
Hi Deirdre,

Here are my drawings for Lesson 1 so far.
I'm working on re-doing my pre-course drawing but I'm away from home for a while so I won't be able to finish and post it till I get back.

The spheres were fun hope I didn't ignore to many of the requirements.

regards

derek :D :D
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Apr-2009/137751-Lesson1_1.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Apr-2009/137751-Lesson1_2.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Apr-2009/137751-Lesson1_3.jpg

arnoud3272
04-24-2009, 06:17 AM
Derek -

I was asked recently to assist in this class, or "subbing" as they like to call it here.
Your exercises are really fine :clap:. You were very creative in decorating the spheres :evil:. I like how you use the pencil to vary the tone, from very light to dark. That will serve you well in later classes.:thumbsup:

ArtConch
04-29-2009, 12:37 PM
Finally I had time to do the chair and re-draw my pre-instruction drawing
I hope Ive done these well enough to move on to the next class.
I did find the chair a challenge, but I did notice an improvement in my dog drawing, it was less stiff and less stylized and more volume, and I was happier with this result. Thanks again for this amazing opportunity to improve my skills, you all rock!:clap:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j144/chellesky62/WetCanvas/chair01_s_drawing_csky.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j144/chellesky62/WetCanvas/Eddy02_s_drawing_csky.jpg

tropigalight
04-29-2009, 02:12 PM
Ok....here we go. I've attached my line practice, spheres, and the dreaded chair. The more I look at my chair, the more I see that I don't want to see...teehee. I must admit that I was overwhelmed at first but felt rewarded in the end...whew!

arnoud3272
04-29-2009, 02:27 PM
Artconch -

You did a good job on the chair, it is really a challenge :thumbsup:.
Your drawing of the dog is indeed an improvement :clap:.
Yes, move on to class 2 :music:.

arnoud3272
04-29-2009, 02:37 PM
Bridget -

Your lines and spheres exercises are very good. The shading on your spheres is outstanding :clap:.
Do not worry too much about the chair, you did fine :thumbsup:!

tropigalight
04-29-2009, 02:43 PM
Ok, thanks for the input. Earlier, I posted the pre-drawing assignment on that thread. Hope to improve it in many areas and expand on the subject matter.

ArtConch
04-29-2009, 06:25 PM
Artconch -

You did a good job on the chair, it is really a challenge :thumbsup:.
Your drawing of the dog is indeed an improvement :clap:.
Yes, move on to class 2 :music:.

Woohoo! Im ready for class 2. :clap: Thanks Arnoud for your positive feedback and taking the time to leave it, its most appreciated :) See ya in class too. Wish me a quiet week so I can get stuck in LOL

arnoud3272
04-29-2009, 07:28 PM
Bridget -
As a rule, the last exercise in class 1 is redrawing the pre-class assignment with (the shading in) straight lines. That is mainly intended for more practice in drawing lines. I don't think you need more line practice. So I think you will learn more by starting now in class 2, and taking an extra assignment at the end of class 2, namely constructing the correct perspective for your pre-class drawing (how is that :evil:?)
No obligation, your choice :).

ctidd
04-29-2009, 08:41 PM
I am grateful you are offering a basic drawing course, as I had signed up for one in my home town, but it ended up being cancelled...

Tikafire
04-30-2009, 02:35 AM
I cannot find a copy of the book. Can anyone tell me what the pre assignment is please?

Thank you

Carina

arnoud3272
04-30-2009, 03:54 AM
ctid, Tikafire -
Welcome to the classroom. Read about the pre-class assignment - and post it there - in the pre-class tread (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555712)
The book is not essential.
Oh yes, do not get confused by the dates. You can join any moment :heart:.

pug307
04-30-2009, 06:28 AM
Hi arnoud,

Thanks for reveiwing my drawing and thanks more for the kind words.

I looked at my pre-course picture and I think I do a lot of my shading in straight lines already.

I have posted another version, I tried to fix a couple of faults in the original. The left eye was tilted too much and the nose was twisted. I'm not sure this is much better.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Apr-2009/137751-Lesson1_4.jpg
regards

Derek :D :D

arnoud3272
04-30-2009, 06:57 AM
Derek -
Nicely done :clap:.
Move on to class 2 :thumbsup:.

aleinaD
04-30-2009, 06:40 PM
ok, so here i go, please be warned the images that come next my hurt your eyes, so take necessary precautions and dont stare too long
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Apr-2009/186644-escanear0001.jpg
by now you must be making weird faces

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Apr-2009/186644-escanear0002.jpg
just one more hang in there!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Apr-2009/186644-escanear0003.jpg


if your eyes and screen still work, please dont be tought with me! this is my first attempt :o

arnoud3272
04-30-2009, 07:21 PM
Daniela -
Welcome to the classroom :).

Your home work is very good :clap:.
I take it that the lighthouse is your pre-class drawing? It should have been posted in the pre-class thread. On the other hand it is nicely shaded in straight lines, so it falls in also with the assignments of this class.
Are you brave enough to try the :evil: chair :evil: ?

aleinaD
04-30-2009, 08:01 PM
Daniela -
Welcome to the classroom :).

Your home work is very good :clap:.
I take it that the lighthouse is your pre-class drawing? It should have been posted in the pre-class thread. On the other hand it is nicely shaded in straight lines, so it falls in also with the assignments of this class.
Are you brave enough to try the :evil: chair :evil: ?

thanks a lot!

ehm.. sure is it a photo in the book you guys talk about? ._. cause i dont have it >_<

aleinaD
04-30-2009, 10:03 PM
sorry about the doble post.

i found the chair in the pdf's :P

Peanut Butter
05-05-2009, 01:11 PM
Here is my assignment:

First the lines. I found it much easier to get a straight line holding my pencil the writing style way.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2009/70245-Lines_5-5-09.jpg


Now the spheres. Some of them aren't exactly spherical!:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2009/70245-Spheres_5-5-09.jpg


Now the chair. I had a heck of a time doing this one and it turned out quite wonky!! Way out of my comfort zone for sure!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2009/70245-Chair_5-5-09.jpg

arnoud3272
05-05-2009, 01:57 PM
Laura -

Well done :clap:. Don't be too disappointed about the chair, it is very challenging.
Now we'd like to see a rework of your pre-class drawing "with straight lines". A portrait in straight lines :confused:. Look at this example from one of the greatest of the old masters, Leonardo:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2009/142886-Leonardo_caricature.jpg

Peanut Butter
05-05-2009, 02:40 PM
Thanks, Arnoud!! I will re-do the pre-class drawing and post it hopefully tonight or tomorrow...

arnoud3272
05-06-2009, 07:36 PM
Vic -

Welcome to the classroom :heart:.
The pre-class drawing should really be posted in the pre-class thread. There was some confusion in the beginning of the classes, but the PDF files are clear. Of course you may start on class 1, this one :evil:.
Please post your homework only in the relevant class thread.

Welcome again

mindbender
05-07-2009, 04:16 AM
Hi,
I have begun working on my pre-class assignment now (Cesare's painting of Perseus and Andromeda - so I'll have to add the "nudity" icon when posting it in the Pre-class thread ;-)) and ordered De Reyda's book today so I should be able to begin reading it in a couple of days. Really looking forward to joining this class. :-)

VicFromBayville
05-07-2009, 10:45 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-May-2009/181289-Assignment_1p1.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-May-2009/181289-Assignment_1p2.jpg

arnoud3272
05-07-2009, 12:12 PM
Vic -

(or is it Lido?)

Well done indeed :clap:.
You were very creative on the circles :lol:, they were supposed to look as spheres :evil:.
But no worries, I see you know how to handle a pencil, no need to keep you in this class.
Move on to class 2 :thumbsup:

Peanut Butter
05-07-2009, 01:00 PM
Ok, This is horribly frustrating!:( Here is my second attempt at the portriat, using only lines. It turned out much worse than the first one (my pre-class assignment). I don't know why I struggle so much drawing people. I can draw birds, so why not humans? (Do we ever get to draw birds?:) )

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-May-2009/70245-Nick_2_5-7-09.jpg