Basic 101: Class1 - Drawing Basics - Old thread

[drawingfun]

Corine, your english is pretty good and your drawings too. I am new posting in this forum too, but people are really nice in this forum and in general in all the forums of WC , you'll like it, LIdia

[boop934]

Thanks Lidia !

I've already take part in this forum, but never in Drawing & Sketching. :thumbsup:

I think that we'll find ourselves in another class !!!

The first one is desert, but i saw that ther had been may participants.

I'm going to read the lesson 2 (85 pages ..... :eek: )

See you soon !:)

[jmb57]

Hi Boop & Drawing Fun...great drawings...
i'm enjoying it here, Jayd is away, so dont be surprised if it takes a little while to get some response...
here's my redone preassignment...i'll go practice perspective...
cheers
Janine
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Sep-2006/89272-paint_bottle_1.jpg

[frieda L]

Janine, Corinne and Lydia,
waw, good work. Corinne, I love your pre class drawing. Bienvenue,ton anglais n'est pas mauvais du tout non plus,
I have no advice, just barely finished these myself, just want to encourage you all to go for it. I learned soooo much doing these classes.
frieda

[drawingfun]

Hi Corine and Frieda, I like your drawings a lot, I know it is so hard to read all those pages in the classes, I think I have read most of them from class 1 to 9but they have pdf files of the classes if you want to go quicker so you don't have to read all the extra comments, I also participate in the acrylic forum, it is really nice, and they have classes too. Lidia

[Judi1957]

Hi SD & P - :wave: Nice spheres!:thumbsup: I would like if you could do three more-working at making them more round, more lines and less outline.
The chair looks great. The only thing is it is a tad more squat-which is OK-but check the length of the rear right leg. I think it will pop out at you now.
Great job!:clap:

[Judi1957]

Hi everybody , I have been following the classes for a couple of months but didn't have a digital camera to post my picturesbut now finally got one,anyway, I think I am in class nine but wanted to post my drawings so you can give me advice. I will be posting my drawings in the respective classes , thanks, Lidia

Here are my lines, circles and chair,

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Sep-2006/87248-IMG_0149_edited.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Sep-2006/87248-IMG_0150_edited.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Sep-2006/87248-IMG_0155_edited.jpg

Drawingfun-These all look really good!!!!!:clap:
Pehaps make the spheres a bit more round.

[Judi1957]

Hi !

I'm new here and I hope that it's not too late to take part.
I read all the 117 pages :eek: . I think I can progres in English too ! :rolleyes:
Now, I post my spheres, the chair.

I found a picture of mine which intimidated about attempting, and I drew all the afternoon.

I'm happy to be here, but it's more difficult for me to speak English than to paint or draw. I hope that will go :thumbsup:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Sep-2006/30557-spheres001_resize.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Sep-2006/30557-chaise001_resize.jpg

Corinne :wave:

Lovely! One thing I would work on is making the spheres more round-Great job!:clap:

[Judi1957]

oh !

The pre_class assignments :o

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Sep-2006/30557-verre_modele.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Sep-2006/30557-verre001_resize.jpg


Corinee-Love the glass! :clap: One thing we will be concentrating on in the future will be drawing without showing linage and using values only. I can't wait to see you do this one again down the road. It is a beautiful reference as well!

Is this a photo yours? I would like to use it if so-if I may.

[Judi1957]

Hi Boop & Drawing Fun...great drawings...
i'm enjoying it here, Jayd is away, so dont be surprised if it takes a little while to get some response...
here's my redone preassignment...i'll go practice perspective...
cheers
Janine
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Sep-2006/89272-paint_bottle_1.jpg

Hi SD & P:wave:
I like your choice here. :clap:
A comment would be the threaded glass section where the lid screws on-it should be more vertical.

[boop934]

Hi SD&P, Frieda, Lidia and Judi

SD&P : Whaooo !!! The refraction is perfect for me. The brushes have indeed "the feet in water" (I don't know if this idiomatic expression exists in English and I translate textually)
The surface of the water appears just a little strange to me.
I like your choice too ! :clap:

Frieda : Thanks for your comments and your French :thumbsup: These classes are really excellent ideas. I never found that on the french forums. I think that my compatriots are refratory to the web. They don't know what they miss :wink2:

Lidia : I persist in reading all the pages. I hope that I could thus put away my English/French dictionary :rolleyes: Bravo for yours spheres and chair, it's not so easy to do !

Judi : Thanks for your comments.
Some spheres aren't really round !!! I'm not a good student, I do some of them sitting down, my sketch book on the sofa. :rolleyes:, some others in the car while I waited for my daughter at the college. Humm ..... I have to control my self ! :D
When I saw my chair on the screen, I noted that the left foot did not touch the ground. Must I remake it ?
When I choose this image for my pre-assignements, I hesitated much. This hesitation decided choice considering the instructions of JayD, but for the first time, I couldn't resign me to draw it twice. One using only value, the other one with linage. Do you think I should draw it twice ?
This photo is mine, you can use it when and how you want ??
I'll put it in the RIL with others immediatly !

[jmb57]

Hi Judi,
thanks for your comments, i'll post the spheres later tonight...

Boop and Drawing Fun, I admire you doing all this in another language...i have enough problems in my language...good on you!!! love your drawings...
regards
Janine

[Judi1957]

Corinne :wave:
You are a wonderful student-shame on ya for insulting a student!!:D :lol:

I would like to comment on your drawing position of your work. If the drawing surface is flat - parallel to the floor you will have distortion in your viewing your work which effects your drawing. Elevate the drawing surface furtherest away from you so it is less flat. Go for at least 15 degrees if not more.

[drawingfun]

Corinne , Janine your drawings are great, actually I didn't do my preassignment because I had to drawings that I did of my daughters and definitely need improvement,so I will consider those my preassignments. As soon as I take the picture of them I will post them.
Judy thanks for checking my drawings, I know my circles look kind of bumped to the wall , I'll keep working on them, Lidia

[boop934]

Thanks Judi. I had not thought of the distortion. I will pay attention and I suppose I get used to drawing in this way.
I go back to my sketches
:wave:

[drawingfun]

Hi, here are my preassignments,at that time I didn't know that childrens proportions were different from adults or older children that is why the drawing of my little daughter looks awkward, I have not tried to fix any of them yet, since I know the highlights and shadows and proportions are not right but will do when I get to the portrait class or so, C &C appreciated, LIdia

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Sep-2006/87248-IMG_0232.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Sep-2006/87248-IMG_0231.jpg

[Judi1957]

Hi Lidia:wave:

I think your portraits are wonderful! :clap: Yes you are right on the proportions-so that will be one of your goals for when you do this again for comparison against the portraits you just posted. I think it is Class 26-deja vu.

Everyone:wave:
-it is a good time to write down exactly where YOU feel you need improvement in respects to your pre-Class Assignments. You will be able to check your giant strides forward when you get to Class 26-deja vu and compare.
So take your time and absorb all you can-the difference will AMAZE you.:clap: :thumbsup: :D

[drawingfun]

I definetely need to work on proportions and shades,too afraid to make it to dark and mess it up, but these classes are helping so much and because it is interactive and friendly it makes it easier, Lidia

[Mae Ashley]

Hey, all. I decided to join up, so I have my lines and circles. :D

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Sep-2006/91633-lines2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Sep-2006/91633-circles2.jpg

[boop934]

Hi Mae !

It's a good idea to join us.
Good luck for the others exercises, I think that we will meet again :thumbsup:

[jmb57]

Hi Judy,
well once again, here is the chair and a few speres....
i am enjoying the lines funnily enough, really enjoy being able to see a change in my being able to graduate tone...

-it is a good time to write down exactly where YOU feel you need improvement in respects to your pre-Class Assignments.
well, i think the major areas i needed to improve on with my pre-class assignment was in the area of perspective and tone/value change...
in the pca i initially used a ruler, so the lines were straight, but i didnt vary the tone enough...the 2nd pca i drew the lines freehand, and i think i found it easier... i improved the spheres regarding the base/water line/top of jar seem better proportionly...i think i also improved by keeping my lines going in the same direction/ and using close lines (hatching) for shading instead of rubbing with my finger/tissue...
no doubt there are other areas i can improve on, and i welcome your comments...
i have enjoyed the classes to date, and find myself practicing regularly which i am enjoying and seeing some improvements...so i look forward to your comments and IS IT TIME YET TO MOVE ONTO PERSPECTIVE>>>:wave:

regards
Janinehttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Sep-2006/89272-chair_2.jpg

[Judi1957]

Hi Heather!:wave:
Welcome!!!!! Nice work here. Tis a lil fuzzy to see but it is apparent you defined the sphere well!:clap: :clap:


Hi Janine :wave:
Good assessment of your work! I thimnk your chair lokoks sooo much better-a lil out of proportion compared to the ref-but you DO have the idea. On to Perspective-Whooooo-Hooooo!:clap::clap:

[jmb57]

Thanks Judi for your advice and patience...really enjoyed being here, but am excited to be moving on...see you!!
Janine

[Mae Ashley]

I'm sorry that my pictures are so blurry, but I can only use a digital camera; I don't have a working scanner right now. I hope they're not too hard on the eyes? If they are, I can always try messing with some settings on the camera and Photoshop. But here's my new pre-assignment.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Oct-2006/91633-portraitwithlineshading.jpg
I shaded lightly, so if anyone really wants to see them, I wouldn't mind taken another photo to make them visible. :)

[Judi1957]

Lovely work Mae Ashley!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Good job at getting the angle of her face-she has proven to be a toughie when it comes to that-but not for you.:smug: :cool:

Now write down where you feel you need improvement in respects to this drawing, then on to the rest of the assignments in Class one. Did you see the pdf's that give you the lesson that you can print out for a book of you like? There is a link to them in my signature too.:)

[zRam]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Oct-2006/92515-John_2J.JPG http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Oct-2006/92515-JohnJ.JPG

Ok. Here is my pre-assignment Sketch.

This was very hard for me and it took about 3 hours to do. I'm not totally satisfied with it, but I'm afraid to keep working on it for fear of making it worse.

Problems: I think maybe the head is too thin, I was afraid to do the background I wasn't sure how to do it and wouldn't be able to undo it. It's not perfect, the head is tilted too much, but I at least recognized who I was drawing.

I've never taken lessons, so advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Ronnie

[zRam]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Oct-2006/92515-SPHERES_1.JPG Here are the Spheres...I'm not satisfied with them and I'm not sure how to make them look right.

For the record, my drawings look better before they are scanned.... I think it may stretch things a little.

Operator error most likely. I'm trying to learn how to Scan as well as draw.

Ronnie

[Mary Woodul]

Hi Ronnie, I'm just passing by and I'm sure one of the subbies will come in soon and tell you the right things.:)

I like your pre-assignment drawing. Very good for the first drawing. It is easier to draw the spheres with a soft pencl and remember to move your lower arm with the hand in the movement of the the sphere. You can go over it several times and you will start seeing how they look looser.;)

[zRam]

Thanks Mary...I've drawn all my life and come from an artist family but I've never taken lessons or spent this much time on one drawing before. Normally I try to see if I can draw in as few lines as possible and still get the point across. I've been trying to find a place to take art lessons here in town and stumbled onto this forum. I'll try what you suggested with the spheres.

[Mae Ashley]

Well, I need to work on her hair and try to shade it because I know I need work there. I need to shade more boldly, darker. I also need to continue working on anatomy. I can work on putting in the leafy background the next time I need to redo the pic.

Here's my chair that I did last night.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Oct-2006/91633-chair.jpg

[Mary Woodul]

Thanks Mary...I've drawn all my life and come from an artist family but I've never taken lessons or spent this much time on one drawing before. Normally I try to see if I can draw in as few lines as possible and still get the point across. I've been trying to find a place to take art lessons here in town and stumbled onto this forum. I'll try what you suggested with the spheres.

You will like the classes in the classroom because having the gift of drawing as you do, with these classes it will be refined and you will be surprised at your drawings a little farther along.

[Mary Woodul]

Well, I need to work on her hair and try to shade it because I know I need work there. I need to shade more boldly, darker. I also need to continue working on anatomy. I can work on putting in the leafy background the next time I need to redo the pic.

Here's my chair that I did last night.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Oct-2006/91633-chair.jpg

Mae the shape of the chair looks good to me. You might shade a little more to bring out those highlights. The picture looks cloudy so it is a little hard to see the contrast in your values.

[MICHA]

hi well i'm new in here, i wrote in another classroom thread or post.. still lost.. but i got no answer :(
so i just need to know how do i walk with the class here, do i have to go to the 1st page? i mean there's about 119 pages! what should i do?
thank you
micha

[Robin Neudorfer]

I am sorry that you did not get an answer in another thread Micha. We are all working at our art and many times at other jobs as well, so sometimes there will be a lull in the posts. Sometimes if you skim through the past 10 - 15 pages you get an idea of who is around and what the latest work being done is.
On the main page of the Classroom thread, there is a link to the Classroom Assignments PDF. It is the second thread down. This will give you the main assignments. Occasionally some of the classes have morphed but the subbies will talk you through it all.
Be patient with us and Welcome to Drawing and Sketching.

[Mae Ashley]

Mae the shape of the chair looks good to me. You might shade a little more to bring out those highlights. The picture looks cloudy so it is a little hard to see the contrast in your values.

Ok, I'll keep that in mind for my redo. :)

[Judi1957]

I'll second what Mary said Mae Ashley.
That is one good looking chair! :clap:

Micha :wave:
Welcome aboard!:clap:

[zRam]

I'm reading through the Rudy De Reyna book, doing the exercises in Chapter (project) 2, and I have a question.
It's about perspective. Rudy says to look around you (real life) and notice how everything has a vanishing point that is on the Horizon. When I look around me it seems that everythings vanishing point is actually a little above the Horizon (at least when I'm outside). Am I missing something? I'm trying to understand this in order to draw the chair for this class.

Thanks,
Ronnie

[rghirardi]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Oct-2006/28705-perspective.gif When I look around me it seems that everythings vanishing point is actually a little above the Horizon (at least when I'm outside). Am I missing something? I'm trying to understand this in order to draw the chair for this class.

Thanks,
Ronnie

Your eye level is always the horizon line. If you lay a pencil across your eyeballs, that is the horizon line. That is why you want your eyes in the same position. If for some reason, you move your body, like coming back to the subject another day, you want to have your eyes in the same position when you continue to draw the subject.

The Durer illustration above shows the artist using a vertical object that keeps his eye in the same position. The object between the model and the artist is a window-type object with grid lines that represent the picture-plane.
http://www.physics.hku.hk/~tboyce/ss/assignments/ascent/perspective.html is the site for a better view of the illustration.

BTW, vanGogh's perspective machine was similar to the picture-plane object in the illustration. His had legs that were adjustable to the terrain he placed it on. Also, other artists prior to him used a similar 'machine.' You can build something like it from a window pane or just tape translucent drawing paper to a window or sliding glass door and trace the 'landscape.' The lines you trace will be in the proper perspective based on your eye level or horizon line.

[zRam]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Oct-2006/92515-Chair.JPG OK Rghirardi I think I understand what you are saying. The Horizon line isn't necessarily the actual horizon of the earth around me, but an imaginary one that is based on how hi my eye position is above the painting.

I finally gave up trying to do the chair drawing cubes and such and just drew it. Here it is.

Thanks,
Ronnie

[Mary Woodul]

I'm reading through the Rudy De Reyna book, doing the exercises in Chapter (project) 2, and I have a question.
It's about perspective. Rudy says to look around you (real life) and notice how everything has a vanishing point that is on the Horizon. When I look around me it seems that everythings vanishing point is actually a little above the Horizon (at least when I'm outside). Am I missing something? I'm trying to understand this in order to draw the chair for this class.

Thanks,
Ronnie

Your vanishing point would be your eye level, Ronnie! Hope that helps. I have plenty of trouble with it myself.:o

Ronnie, I think your chair is excellent!

[Robin Neudorfer]

Or better yet... your vanishing points will be on your eye level, and in perspective the eye level is another way to say horizon line.

The eye level represents the height of the station point (this is either the actual or imagined location of the observer. This is a variable determined by the artist). As the height of the artist's eyes changes (such as the difference between sitting and standing), so does the eye level of the drawing. Eye level is the same thing as the horizon line, which is the place in reality where earth and sky seem to meet. The eye level is an important reference line in every persective drawing. The horizon may be blocked from view by tall buildings or it can be placed beyond the limits of the page. Regardless, in every perspective drawing there exists an eye level (horizon) that appears as a horizontal line drawn across the picture plane or an extension of the picture plane. The eye level is a variable determined by the artist.

[zRam]

"your vanishing points will be on your eye level, and in perspective the eye level is another way to say horizon line."


That makes sense. I appreciate the help. This afternoon when I went outside and looked at buildings, I was having a hard time putting the vanishing point on the actual Horizon of the earth. Now I understand it. It was kind of interesting to look around and see the different shapes inside of objects, and their vanishing points etc... i may never see the world the same again :)

It's kind of boring drawing lines and spheres, etc... but I can tell a difference already. Thanks for the kind remarks on my drawing.

Ronnie

[Robin Neudorfer]

Ronnie - It is such an important observation you are finding yourself involved in. At times you may be fooled, but if you squint and take a straight edge, a receipt, or edge of a postcard etc, lay it along the lines of the buildings. Without swaying, (because that can change the vanishing points) take a minute to see where the lines converge.
Don't worry if people stare at you, they will just think you are someone very important and highly intelligent to be making such observations. Which of course you are... all artists are. Others are just jealous.

...and it is all a matter of perspective as to whether or not drawing lines and spheres is boring. If you draw the best line you can, and the best sphere there ever was, then it is a rather important activity you are engaged in. It can also be seen as a great form of therapy, certainly beats the alternative.

[zRam]

Don't worry if people stare at you, they will just think you are someone very important and highly intelligent to be making such observations.


I like the way you think. I'll do that as well as see the work with the spheres and lines in a new way.

Ronnie

[Mylo]

Ok, I dont have natural talent for drawing, but when I saw this page I thought , "mmmm maybe I have a chance", these are the assignments.

Note: Mylo = broken english :rolleyes:

Files Attached :wave:

[Mary Woodul]

Mylo welcome to the Classroom! I am not one of the subbies of the teacher but I was passing by an noticed your post so I will try to tell you what I think.

The first drawing can be you pre-class assignment. If you like to draw you can learn quickly. I can tell.:) The chair of course does need improvement in the shape, size and perspective. Take a look at the previous drawings of the chair and read what is being adviced to improve it. The third exercise is supposed to be free hand so the circles will have to be freehand. Don't worry if you don't get them round. It is an exercise to help you loosen up. I think if you take the chair again and measure the width of the top and go from there measuring things, you will do fine.

[Mary Woodul]

Looking at the cair again, it is not bad, I think it is that the back of it is to short compared to the rest. Start from there to measure. You do have a talent for darwing.:thumbsup:

[Mylo]

thanks, i will work on the chair and freehand spheres, Im very excited about the pre-assignment coz It has a lot of perspective, and need a lot of improvement. thanks for the comments, I guess you speak spanish, Im from guatemala, greetins

[Mary Woodul]

Hola, Mylo! Escribes bien Inglès! I'm glad you are enthusiatic about your darwing and class you will get a lot of benefit from it. Just let yourself loosen up with the spheres and lines, try the chair again and then you will be ready to jump into the perspcetive and the real learning.:D

[Mylo]

k, the chair is giving me a hard time, I cant get a nice outcome, Im posting the spheres too, omg that chair is hell.

[Mary Woodul]

Mylo you spheres are much better. What is confusing on the chairs is that the crossbar between the front legs shoud go over that back leg. Shade the bar from the left leg to the right leg covering the back leg. Right now it looks like it is intesecting the back leg. The only other things is, I see is a problems with perspective but you will learn that once you get to class two.:thumbsup:

[Mylo]

Thanks for the tips, I will try the chair until I get a decent outcome, can I move to class two tho?

[Mary Woodul]

Yes, you can Mylo and I think Judi will be back on Sunday, she is away right now and Robin has had a few things in her way so I would suggest you do it on Monday.

[Rogue Solo]

Hi, I'm joining the drawing class and, as requested, here's my pre-assignment drawing. I used a reference drawing but changed the shading around so its not exactly the same.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Oct-2006/90972-Kitten_Smaller_Image.jpg

Here's one that I did without a reference photo - basically lying on the bed and drawing my feet.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Oct-2006/90972-PIC_0032.JPG

If you want or need other samples as part of the pre-assignment, please let mek now.

Tori

[Mary Woodul]

Tori, welcome to the Drawing and Sketching forum and to the Classroom. Your drawings are excellent and it is nice to see you are willing to take the classes. They are always a help in perfectioning your drawing. If you can please post you pre-assignment drawing in the pre-assignment class thread and then do the three assignments for this class. I know you will fly through with your talent.:thumbsup:

[Rogue Solo]

Sorry about that ... For some reason, I don't seem to find the right place the first time!

I'm working on that now.

Question though -- in some of the responses, people are drawing a 'chair' -- is that required for the first class? All I saw were lines.

[Mary Woodul]

Tori, this is the link to the pre-class assignment thread.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221326

Yes, the chair is part of the assignment and the lines and spheres. I am not the subbie here but I will try to get you the reference for the chair and I'm sure you will get better feedback on your work this week.:)

[Mary Woodul]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Oct-2006/43096-37258-28065-Chair1.jpg

Tori, I found the image of the chair for you.

[Rogue Solo]

Mary, thank you VERY much for finding this for me. I'm having a hard time wading through the threads to find what I"m looking for ... so I really appreciate the help. A friend of mine wants to do Basic 101 as well. He's registering even as we speak, I think.

[UngaMan]

Hello Mary...

I'm friend of Tori's and she told me about this place. I really love to join this classes.

I assume the pre-requisite is the same for everyone... is that correct?

Best wishes!

[Mary Woodul]

Hello Mary...

I'm friend of Tori's and she told me about this place. I really love to join this classes.

I assume the pre-requisite is the same for everyone... is that correct?

Best wishes!

Hi! Welcome to the Drawing and Sketching forum and to the class room. Yes, the assignments are the same for all. You are supposed to take the first five classes and after that you can conitnue taking all of them or jump around to the ones you prefer. The pre-class assignment drawing should be posted in the pre-class assignment thread and then you come to this class and do the spheres, lines and chair. If you have any trouble finding the pre-class assignment thread, the link is in my last reply to Tori.

Nice to have you with us!:thumbsup:

[Mary Woodul]

Tori, glad to be of some help!:)

[UngaMan]

Thanks Mary :)

[Judi1957]

Hi Mylo and welcome!!!!

Nice sketch of the tree landscape!

Your chair looks better but if you observe it next to the original ref I think it will really help you out. :thumbsup: (and I agree - the chair is :evil: )
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Oct-2006/37258-mylo_chair.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Oct-2006/37258-chair_crop.jpg

[Judi1957]

Hey All-:wave: :wave:
We have many of the lessons in pdf format too so that you can print them out and put in a binder if you like. :thumbsup:
The pdf's cover the assignments/instructions only. See the link in my signature.:)

[Judi1957]

Hi Mary!!!:wave: :wave:

Tori and Julio! Welcome aboard! :wave:

Tori-what a great kitty and :clap: KUDOS:clap: for no reference photo on your feet!

[Rogue Solo]

Thanks! I've never worked from photos until I did the kitten for my daughter. Always only from real life. I'm so proud. The first thing I've done that I thought was good enough to hang on a wall. Woohoo!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Oct-2006/90972-Accursed_Chair.JPG

Okay, here's the chair -- do NOT like how this photo turned out so, if it stops raining anytime in the next week, I'm going to try photographing from outside. I'll do the lines next but I do have one question. Where are the instructions for the spheres? I've gone over the first lesson several times and can't find anything on them.

Is this in the book? I don't have the book and can't find the book in any of the local bookstores ...

Tori

[Mary Woodul]

Hi Tori! I think you did a very good job on the chair. I wanted to get the PDF file link for you but I can't seem to access to it but I copied this from the first page of this class. I remember having doing these when we started this course but JayD explains it very well, in these lines.

Everyone operates from an angle. It’s a favorite direction for you to draw. Finding the angle that is comfortable for you easily draws a straight line. Using the wrist will tighten up your control and will produce a shaky line. Using the elbow permits more control of the pencil thus producing a smooth flowing line

(Insert drawings here)

1. Start by drawing a straight line across the paper. Now draw these straight lines over and over except each time, before you draw the line, turn the paper and try to draw a horizontal, vertical and a diagonal line. Do this over and over again until you discover an angle which gives you a comfortable feeling straight line.

Do this using the writing position and then do it again using the underhand or cupped position. See if you can note the difference.

2. Take another sheet of paper and this time, again, start dashing off those straight lines as quickly as you can. This time DO NOT turn the paper

Do this using the writing position and then do it again using the underhand or cupped position. See if you can note the difference.


Again, when you make these lines—don’t worry about being careful—this is an exercise—fire them out as rapidly as you can—try to get them straight but don’t worry if you do not—worry about taxes and death—don’t worry about getting the straight line down the first time. That is what practice is for. Which brings me to another point: PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE!!! Make time to do these exercises and you will create improvement in yourself.

I am not the teacher here and am only helping out when they are away but I think you will be fine if you do the lines and the spheres.

Good work!

[Alecto]

Hi,

Here are my chair and circles. I did the pre-class assignment drawing as well, but I did it on decidedly horrible paper which turns to felt with even a minimal amount of erasing, so I'm unhappy with it and will redo it today. The chair and circles were done on the same paper, but since they're less complicated (and less personally meaningful) I wasn't as concerned about the smudges and felting.

Since I don't have my pre-class assignment to comment on, I'll comment on these instead. The chair I enjoyed doing, but I find I have to bear down too hard with a 2b to get the darks that I like so much. I did the chair with crosshatching, which I never do. I don't know why I chose that for this assignment (my style usually involves tiny blended strokes that follow the object's form -- blended by layering, not smudging). The circles were amazingly tedious, and as you can see I got bored and switched it up. I ended up moving from plain straight lines close together to lines that change in value as they cross the form. I also got tired of spheres and made a few flattish disks and one concave object. I know, it's not 20 or more, but I really, really, couldn't take doing another circle. I was hard-pressed to come up with the variations that I did (my creativity is painfully rusty -- a big reason why I'm here to begin with).

Thanks for looking and for any helpful comments. I look forward to feedback.

[Edit: I should add that I altered the values in the chair from the original photo. I have trouble drawing from photos because when I can't walk around something I have difficulty interpreting its form. To offset this, I recreated the chair using more sculptural (and less realistic) values because the real values from the photo were confusing me. In other words, you don't have to tell me that the lighting is unrealistic -- that was deliberately done.]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Nov-2006/88719-my_chair_first.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Nov-2006/88719-circles.jpg

[Mary Woodul]

I think you have done first class work, very good. The fact that you prefer to draw from life is also a point in your favor. Most people find it easier to draw from photographs. I think you have a natural gift for drawing and it will be interesting to see your work as you breeze by these classes.

[Alecto]

Here is my pre-class assignment. I've always wanted to draw this picture of my sweetheart, but it seemed like such a challenge -- I was never sure that I was up to the task of capturing that "exhausted but happy" look on his face.

I know that I'm supposed to talk about it. First, let me say that I know it's not finished, but I looked ahead and saw that I'd have to redraw it again (maybe several times) anyway; plus, I don't understand the folds of the raincoat around the shoulder and neck area. There's some odd doubling and tripling that suggests many layers sewn together, but I can't make it out. The coat is around here somewhere (in a box), so I'll locate it for the exercise where I redo this image using straight lines.

Again, I did not like using a #2 pencil; it forced me to press very hard to get the darks. The photo looks fine, but in real life the image has areas that are so burnished smooth from trying to go dark that they're no longer dark -- they're highly reflective instead. I had trouble with the facial hair (which I've never done before) and am not convinced that it works. His expression seems more relaxed in the original photo; my drawing has that semi-rigid "smile for the camera" look. I rearranged the darks to make it more readable for me (I can never draw something as I see it, especially if there are abutting edges that are very close in value). He doesn't appear to be looking straight out of the image (as in the original photo), but rather off over my (your, our) right shoulder. I fudged and fudged but couldn't fix that. What I like about it is that I think I managed to keep him looking rugged, and I think I captured the exhausted look without going too far and making him look just plain old.

I look forward to your comments. Thank you for any help.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Nov-2006/88719-baby_007_upload_version.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-Nov-2006/88719-baby_002_upload_version.jpg

[Mary Woodul]

Again you have done an excelent job with this! Once you finish it you can post in the Pre-class Assignment thread and I think you are more than ready to start class 2.

[Judi1957]

As Mary said Alecto--first Class!:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Rogue Solo]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Nov-2006/90972-Balls_in_Sepia.JPG

Here are the spheres -- I've already submitted the chair and a drawing I was afraid to tackle. That leaves the lines which will be in my next post.

Hopefully, these will be okay.

Tori

[Mary Woodul]

Tori, these are very good! I specially like the ones on the upper right. Very nice!

[cowgirl chris]

Just starting the classes and here is my pre assignment work.http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Dec-2006/96194-james_drawing.JPG

[Judi1957]

Wow Chris! That looks fab! :clap:
Write down where you feel you need to omprove-in respects to your pca.

Is this from your imagination?

[cowgirl chris]

Wow Chris! That looks fab! :clap:
Write down where you feel you need to omprove-in respects to your pca.

Is this from your imagination?

I think that I need to improve on my shading and detail work. I don't believe that I am any good at all, not like some of the other artist I see on here. I can not draw people's faces (they always look like aliens LOL). Pretty much I need to improve on all of my techniques but mainly shading and detailing. I can only draw things that I see and not from my imagination. I have never had any art classes to show me the "how to's" of drawing. This is the picture that I used.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Dec-2006/96194-100_0271.jpe

[cowgirl chris]

Oh and I also want to learn to do coloring because I just don't know how to do it. Just think of me as a blank canvas and I am yours to create LOL

[bigs]

OK, posted my ref & precalss drawing over in the prelim thread ( hope that's right).
Now have done lines/circles/chair/ref in straight lines ( must admit I lightly did outline then nothing but straight lines - had to get my ref points right):

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Dec-2006/92218-12.12.2006_0002.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Dec-2006/92218-12.12.2006_0001.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Dec-2006/92218-12.12.2006_0003.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Dec-2006/92218-12.12.2006_0004.jpg

My circles aren't the best ones I've seen - but hopefully I can graduate to lesson 2

Sue

[Mary Woodul]

Hi Sue! I'll step in case Judi or JayD are doing other things at the moment. Good work! I would only check the chair on the left side of the screen, it looks a little confusing to me, I think it is the perspective of the seat or the top of the chair that might me coming down to fast. Yes, you are ready to go to class 2 and start the fun there.:)

[bigs]

Mary, you're right - I think I did the back leg too light - looks like it'd fall over:eek:
Sue

[couturej]

Here are my circles and chair. :)

[Mary Woodul]

Nice work, Janet, I only feel that the crossbar between the back legs is downward and I think the top edge of that back leg should be visible, otherwise it looks fine.

[couturej]

Thank you Mary! :) I see what you mean regarding the crossbar and the top edge of the back leg. Thank you for your help!

[esideeuknome]

I would love any tips on this drawing.....I'm not providing a reference because I just want to know how it is for what it is.....like....for a person i'm drawing...wat should I correct or take in mind....Even though i'm not finished I would love any comments....Plus...May someone provide a demonstration on how their capable of making a resemblance of real skin with graphite.....

[JayD]

I think you probably already know to do this this but please repost this to the appropriate class--May I suggest Anita's portrait class which is, hands down the best of the portrait classes.

[Mary Woodul]

I think you definitely have your proportions right and will have no trouble doing the rest of it right. I agree with JayD that the best place to finish this would be in Anita's Portrait Class. http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331689

As for rendering the skin, I think that is a personal choice. I have seen many graphite artists that hatch very lightly, blend with tissue and get a beautiful skin look and I have also seen others that leave the pencil stroke visible and that also makes a very attractive portriat. There are many threads throughout the forum and in the Learning Center. You can check out all of the WIPs that have excellent demos of the rendering of different artists portraits.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334250

[WesternArt]

My lines. I must have missed some of the other assignments in the 300 some pages. I only saw the one for the lines. Where can I find the other assignments for this??

[JayD]

Class one is about the lines and I see you have done those--the thing with this and the next 4 classes is about those boring repetivie things that we have not done in such a long time--these are loosening up excercises. There was an assignment but I cannot find it: you are to construct a picture of your choice using only a combination of lines--no circle or other geometrics are encourgaged . The idea, again, is to loosen you up.

[eyepaint]

Hi there,

I'm starting the class more than two years after it started - talk about tardy! However, at Judy's suggestion, I'll post my work here in this Draw 101 Class 1 thread.

First is my pre-class assignment - a face that doesn't resemble the person in the photo. I'd like to draw people better so I chose this face to work on. I need to work on the usual facial features, the proportion, the shadows, the hair texture, and I'd really like to figure out how to make an actual likeness.

Ref:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2007/96240-13_audrey_portrait_bw_crop.jpg

My version:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2007/96240-Resize_of_IMGP5688.JPG

Next is my lines and circles.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2007/96240-Resize_of_IMGP5690.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2007/96240-Resize_of_IMGP5693.JPG

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2007/96240-Resize_of_IMGP5694.JPG



Next is my redo of the pre-class assignment using lines for shading. I like how this turned out - already an improvement. I started this drawing with the eyes, nose, and mouth, and later drew the boundaries of the face, whereas for the earlier drawing I drew the egg shape first, drew landmark lines (midway down face, midway again for nose, etc.) Maybe it's more useful to start with the eyes since if the eyes aren't right then the rest of the drawing won't measure up. These eyes still need lots of work.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2007/96240-Resize_of_IMGP5695.JPG


Finally is the chair drawing. I did this perhaps too quickly, and I should re-do it after I learn more about perspective in the class 2 assignments? :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Jan-2007/96240-Resize_of_IMGP5696.JPG

Thank you for reviewing and would appreciate your feedback.

Cheers,
EP

[Fozbot]

EP, someone will be along to critique and help you soon. just remember to hang on to these first drawings. if you stick w/the classes you'll be flabberghasted in a few months at how far you've progressed.

[JayD]

Hi EP, welcome to the forum and you had betten listne to Judi and to Billie--these gals are absolutely the tops. I am glad that you picked something like a portrait to attack. In addition to the classes make sure that you check out people like Eclipse, Reinhard, and sparrowhawk and there are megadozens more here that are going to be more then will to share technique.

Keep in mind that we are using the Rudy De Reyna book how to draw what you see as our reference. You do not have to buy it of course but if you see it in a store be sure to stop and check it out.

everything can be broken down into geometric shapes make sure that you try to observe this point when working out your drawing--work from a centerline so that you achieve symetry with the face and do NOT be afraid to start over--you will find that even the best artist here will start again and again until they get it right. A lot of our experts "effortlessity" is sheer blood, sweat and tears.

You will be asked to return to this photo and the drawing so throw neither out. This drawing is your progress gauge so that you can see how you are progressing and you will be amazed as you move forward. good work on the lines and the circles--bear in mind that these are loosening up excercises to get you to be more relaxed with the pencil.

For now move to the next class and do not be afraid to ask questiosn. Its good to have you hear and happy drawing!!!

[eyepaint]

Hi guys,

Thanks for the welcomes and your note regarding starting from the midline.

I've requested the Rudy De Reyna book from the library and it should be ready for my for Monday.

I'll hang onto these drawings as my preschool (not even kindergarten level, lol) evidence and hope to progress through the early grades.

I've worked on the class 2 assignments and posted them in that thread.

I appreciate your kind words and encouragement.

Take care,
EP

[trentsketch]

I decided to try participating in the drawing class. I'm just posting my pre-assignment for now since I haven't actually completed the circles, chair, or redo exercises.

This is just a photo I found doing an image search online.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Jan-2007/98116-pre-assignment_subject.jpg
And here is my drawing.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Jan-2007/98116-pre-assignment.jpg
Yes, it is supposed to be sideways. No, it's not supposed to be so squished:p Frankly, I'm impressed that I did that well, considering that I tend to not even come close to drawing facesthat look remotely human. My chosen mediums are ceramics and spray paint (but not at the same time), and neither one requires me to do faces that aren't already stenciled/sculpted out beforehand.

[JayD]

Well, first I want to say that this is a lovely choice for a subject and your drawing is not that bad--I have issues drawing things sideways and the solution is to simply, using the computer--turn the picture until I find a comfortable position. I can always turn the drawing back after it is completed. Your drawing is sketchy which is the first phase of a developed drawing. But dont worry about that--this is your reference drawing that will allow you to gauge your progress as you advance through othe classes. At some point you will be asked to redraw this and compare to the original.

Regarding ceramics and spray paint--Stencil is an old and legitimate American Art form--its not an easy technique as some people might think but I am really impressed that you came here to be with us--its hard to move out of a comfort zone--I think you will do really well.

[MICHA]

ok.. i'm confused, frustrated, and after about one month of opening this site, i still don't have a clue of where i have to begin..
first i was lost in here... then i discovered there are pages, then i thought i have to start here (class one) and draw the chair before i read that there are pre assignments! i posted portraitures in another classes but still waiting for anita's comment wich i think she won't ever comment! :(
so help, please :(

[Fozbot]

MICHA, don't worry. it can be confusing and sometimes frustrating to wait for comments and critiques. even though it's recommended to start at the beginning of the classes i didn't. i came in about class #21 and started from there. you can take the classes in any order you wish depending on how comfortable you feel and based on your currant abilities. if you feel you need to backtrack at anytime, do so. i'll PM Anita and let her know you have a piece in portraiture that needs her eye.:)

[JayD]

Micha, if you are an absolute beginner you do the first five classes--if your skills are beyond the basics then move forward at your own discretion. Anita is currently in Saudi Arabia and her hours are not the same as ours so please be patient. Welcome to the classes and I hope that you have loads of fun.

[lneustadter]

I am going to take the Basic 101 class. I will use the Weekly Drawing Challenge Thread 8th Jan - 14th Jan (2007) as my pre-class challenge.

Here is the photo reference (crystal decanter and silver goblets):

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5276799&postcount=7

Here is my drawing:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5296089&postcount=78

I am off to do the Class 1 exercises!

My goal is to do one class every 2 weeks.

Thank you for offering this class!

Laurel

[MICHA]

i know this is late, but i thought to post it since i drew it
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/michasaab/DSC07240.jpg

[Judi1957]

Hi Micha!

Lovely job!:clap: :clap: :thumbsup: You did a wonderful job not showing an outline too!

The only things I see amiss are the front and back rungs-which need to be more parallel with each other. Also look at the front right leg and rear left legs of your drawing and compare it to the ref. What do your skills of observation show you?



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Jan-2007/37258-28065-Chair_grey.jpg

[MICHA]

hi :)
thank you judi for ur reply
yes, the front right leg is much taller and doesn't show similar to the left one, it's drawn too much to the right, the back leges show like the left one is taller then the right one, is that right?

[Judi1957]

You have it Micha:thumbsup: :clap:

[lneustadter]

Here are my spheres and chair.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/41206-Sphere1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/41206-Sphere2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/41206-Sphere3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Jan-2007/41206-Chair2.jpg

Laurel

[Judi1957]

Hi Laurel! Great job!:clap: :thumbsup: One thing to note-a shadow gets less intence/dark the further away from the object.

Your chair is wonderful!:clap: :thumbsup:

[lneustadter]

Thanks for the tip on shadows, Judi.

Here is my original drawing using lines only ... I have used HB, 2B, 3B, and 5B pencils, hatching and cross hatching only. No curves, no blending.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Feb-2007/41206-Drawing101_LineDrawing.jpg

I think I have completed all the Class 1 assignments.

Laurel

[Judi1957]

Nice work Laurel, I think you did a great job getting in the highlights too!
On to Class 2:clap: :clap:

[lizzzie*]

Well, here goes...I hope!
I'm posting my "before" picture, which is incomplete because I got frustrated with trying to get all the different shades of white/grey on the pants and shirt. I also had issues with photographing the drawing - I'm doing something wrong with the lighting I think, so if anyone has advice on that I'd love to hear it. I'm also using a lame camera right now - hope to get a better one soon!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2007/100843-Photo_021607_004.jpg

And here's one more try:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Feb-2007/100843-Photo_021607_003.jpg

Looking forward to this!
-lizzzie

[Judi1957]

Gosh Lizzzie-I remember when I could do that position. I would try again but would probably get stuck!:lol:
I think your drawing is great! :clap:
The camera-our best friend and worst enemy. Try the different settings for different types of lighting (daylight-fluorescent-etc) if you have that option. Daylight is the best setting really. Turn the flash off.
Take the pic at high resolution then reduce it to the WC size allowed. Make the drawing greyscale in your photo shop then tweek the brightness/contrast/etc untill the image looks like the drawing itself.

[lizzzie*]

Thanks Judi - I'll work on the camera thing.

I'm a little confused about the assignments and exercises. I don't have the book - are the exercises described somewhere on this thread? I saw something about drawing spheres...I'm not sure where to begin, but I guess I'll just find one and try to draw what I see, right?:)

[lizzzie*]

Just testing - I tried adjusting things in iPhoto...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2007/100843-Photo_021607_008.jpg

[lizzzie*]

Here's my attempt at the chair. I'm going to try to fix my camera before I post the spheres...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2007/100843-Photo_021807_004.jpg

[lizzzie*]

Here are my spheres:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2007/100843-spheres_1.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2007/100843-spheres_2.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2007/100843-spheres_3.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-Feb-2007/100843-spheres_4.jpg

I didn't set them out very neatly, and I have some practice lines...is that OK, or would you rather have these assignments look more polished? I just wanted to try out some different approaches...

[Judi1957]

I'm a little confused about the assignments and exercises. I don't have the book - are the exercises described somewhere on this thread? I saw something about drawing spheres...I'm not sure where to begin, but I guess I'll just find one and try to draw what I see, right?:)

Hi Lizzzie-Check it out HERE (http://www.atreesse.com/wetcanvasdrawingpdf.html)
Or there is a link to the assignments thread in my signature.

[Judi1957]

Hi Lizzzie-
That is one NICE chair!:clap: :clap: The only thing that seems amiss is the rear leg-a tad thin. Can you detail the chair too for a lil more for practice?

The spheres look pretty good too-but I would like to see a lil more linework if you have the time-perhaps do 3 more.:)

You are doing a great job!

[lizzzie*]

Thanks Judi!
It's funny looking at the chair now - that back leg IS kinda spindly...
I'll work on the details and post it soon. I did the spheres today, and will post them later. I think my lines are smoother, but I'm not too clear on where the shadows and highlights should be. My apartment is strangely devoid of spheres !

[Judi1957]

Lizzie-That is strange on the spheres-but I am looking around here too and I am really not seeing any either. Oh No-a sphereless house! (runs screaming from the room!)

-you could do an egg as it is close:lol:
Of try a few of these-the ones that don't have shadow cast on them by another---also go back and look at some of the other posts. Here is an impressive one that tells a story on the highlights:thumbsup: : http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4727430&postcount=1594

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Feb-2007/37258-balls.jpg

[lizzzie*]

Thanks for the sphere pictures - I love the one with the sun!

Here's my chair with some more details. It's on newsprint, so it was hard to erase when I accidentally made marks where I should have had highlights...I think I'll go with sketch paper in the future.
I forgot to take a picture of my spheres, so I'll post them soon.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Feb-2007/100843-chair_2.jpg

PS - the top of the chair is kind of short, isn't it? For some reason it's easier to see in the photo...

[lizzzie*]

...and here are the spheres.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/21-Feb-2007/100843-extra_spheres.jpg

[lizzzie*]

Hi there...
Is it OK if I start working on class 2?

[TJLind]

It looks like this class is still running so I hope no one minds if I join.
I will be posting my pre-class drawing shortly.

[TJLind]

Here is my preclass drawing. I didn't put in many details because my purpose in taking this class is to learn to draw with pencil. I normally use vine charcoal and find it difficult to get good results with pencil.
Here is the reference photo http://www.wetcanvas.com/RefLib/showphoto.php?photo=68123

[TJLind]

Okay my drawing didn't show up, I'll try again.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-Feb-2007/101939-preclass_drawing.jpg

[Judi1957]

Hi Lizzzie! :wave: YES-fantastic spheres-wow what a difference!:clap: :clap: time to move along to Class 2-see ya there!:thumbsup:

[Judi1957]

Hi TJ!:wave: Welcome aboard!:thumbsup:
I think you did a grand job! What I want you to now is write down where you feel you need improvment in respects to this drawing. I am glad you are interested in drawing--it is the base of all art in my mind. There is a link in my signature for the pdfs for most of the Classes you can print out. It details the assignments only so you will have a clear list of the assignments. :)

[TJLind]

I know that I have extended the sides of the head too far down and maybe out too far. My feathers need to look like feathers, not fur, more detail, shading, the eyes need work so that they have depth.

[TJLind]

Here are my spheres. I only did 6 but I feel that they are a fair representation of where I am at the moment. I will start on the chair today. With the limited time I have to draw it could take awhile before it is finished and posted.

[TJLind]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Mar-2007/101939-spheres.jpg

[TJLind]

Well, that didn't take as long as I thought it would. Here's my chair.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-Mar-2007/101939-chair.jpg

[SebastianE_PL]

Hi everyone! Some nice chairs and spheres i see here : ).
I'm really happy to be joining this class. Here's the source and my preclass assignment (I know it doesn't look like a drawing at all but I'm truely a begginer):
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2007/101665-SourceMin.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/04-Mar-2007/101665-Sketch.jpg

I hope to go through the first lesson tommorow so see you soon.

[Anita Murphy]

Sebastian (Love that name!) - Great picture for your pre class assignment. One thing I notice is that you got away from the problems with photos and the tilt in the buildings and put that right in your drawing :clap: Now hang on to this picture because later on there is a chance to redraw it after you have done some of the lessons and see how much you have improved.

[SebastianE_PL]

I've finally finished drawing those circles (so far I've drawn about 100 and even now most of them propably can't be called spheres). Anyway here they are:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Mar-2007/101665-Spheres1READY.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Mar-2007/101665-Spheres2READY.jpg
I guess I'll have to draw another 100 but hey that's why I'm here... to practice drawing :).
But for now I'll continue my work and try to draw the chair...

[SebastianE_PL]

OK here's the chair. I hope it's better then the spheres : ).
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Mar-2007/101665-ChairReady.jpg
Now I'll redo my pre-class drawing using lines for shading. I can't wait to see the difference ;).

[Flairikal]

Hi! :wave: Being lurking in this thread for awhile, finally came to the conclusion that lurking is not going to help me much (despite many posts saying that). I am pretty much a beginner.
Here is my pre-class assignment. I used the the picture from Weekly Drawing Challenge Thread 26th February-4th March(2007) for it.

Reference picture (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-Feb-2007/33616-15603Basque_man_2BW500.jpg)

And here's my drawing:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2007/102906-pre_class_assignment_002.jpg

I used 2B pencil on a printing paper. I definitely need help with shading.

[Ruthmarie]

Hello! Thought I might follow along with the lessons. I have had no training, but I am to start a year of creative drawing on Thursday. I like to draw animals, I find portraits very difficult. Sooo, I this is my granddaughter. Need some constructive critique for starters. LOL. Ruth




http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2007/98519-BRE2.jpg

[Ruthmarie]

My chair after a few attempts. Too wide, short legs, lopsided, etc. etc. Ruth




http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2007/98519-Chair.jpg

[Ruthmarie]

Sorry couldn't load photo because had same name as pic. Dum dah dum.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2007/98519-BREphoto.jpg

[Ruthmarie]

I have been drawing lines and circles forever this last week. So today this is my final drawing of spheres. What do I have to do next??? Ruth

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/11-Mar-2007/98519-myspheres.jpg

[tswalls]

Here is my pre-class 1 assignment, my class 1 chair and spheres.
I am 62 years old and have been trying to learn how to draw. I am full time employed. Hope to learn how to draw by the time I retire.

C&C Welcome
Tom

[Judi1957]

Hi Flairikal:wave: Welcome to Class! I knew I saw that face before. Really good job!:clap: Now write down where you feel you need improvement in respect to this drawing-ans on to the rest of the assignments!

Hi Ruth and Welcome...to the place where for most of us this is all the training we have-and we can thank JayD for all of this!:clap: :clap:
What a cutie of a grandaughter. C & C-I would like you to do that here with her portrait-just like you did on the chair.. It will help sharpen your eye for detail. I will say that portraits are difficult at first. Especially a baby and a young child. A lil off and you can add or subtract a year or so from the subject. On adults that is generally not so noticable. Good job on your spheres!:clap:

Hi Tom and a big Welcome to you too! Nice work overall! I think you have a good grasp on some fundamentals already!!! :clap:

[tswalls]

Judi Thank you for the encouragement.:) and taking the time to instruct.
Tom

[Flairikal]

Hi Judi.:wave:, thanks for the C&C. :)
I feel that for the drawing:
- the eyes are a bit too near
- the mouth is a bit too far from the nose
- the shading needs to be worked on, it looks uneven.
- the picture looks flat (might be the shading)
- the nose looks out of shape
- the right side of the face is wider then supposed to be
- The hair look non-existence
I think my drawing don't look like the reference picture. Thus, I shall stop here before I list out everything out of place. (Will probably take one whole page:lol: )

Here are the circles:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Mar-2007/102906-circles_resize.jpg

And the chair:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Mar-2007/102906-Chair.jpg

And now I shall go work on redrawing the pre-class drawing using lines.:D

[gakinme]

Hi Judi,

I have decided to follow these tutorials since I don't really want to bore others with my sloppy drawings. Here are the assignments. I tried to use only lines but...ahem..I kept forgeting.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4589/chaircl7.jpg

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/7880/sphere1ue9.jpg

I also am not sure which pre-assignment picture to submit because if you have me redo it in only straight lines, it would be very hard because these are portraits.

I'll show you two. One in charcoal of 1 week ago and one in pencil yesterday. The difference is the first one is with grid, and the second one is freehand.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Mar-2007/86669-kimura_600.jpg
Kimura Takuya (I have other Asian stars drawings but this is the best one.)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/669/oldvietnamese2600bp0.jpg
80 year old Vietnamese that I dare distort in looks.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/danielwufan/vietnam/people1.jpg

[Ruthmarie]

Hilarious. As I progressed with this I just got worse, even with grid lines.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/24-Mar-2007/98519-BB2.jpg

[Judi1957]

Hi Tom! :wave: Hope you are still with us here.

Hi Flairikal:wave: Your powers of observation are sharp:clap: and will get even sharper! Your spheres :clap: and seat look good-look back at the chair and see what lines need corrected.

Hi gakinme:wave: Beautiful charcoal girl! I see you like grids-and there is nothing wrong with that. We all have the tools which help us along. The only one not promoted in Class is tracing. Spheres look good!
The chairs seat seems a bit off there.

Hi Ruth!:wave: Not worst at all! :clap: With every drawing-something improves-though we might not know where-the practice takes us forward.

[tswalls]

Hi Judi
I am still around. Working on lesson 2. Haven't posted anything yet. Soon I hope:confused:
Tom

[gakinme]

Judi,

I have reworked the chair. Please let me know what else you think needs improving. And when should I start moving onto the next chapter.

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8236/chair2600wc8.jpg

I don't like using grids. It's because I can't recognize shapes perfectly yet that I have to resort to grids when I draw something as beautiful as Asian stars. I don't dare distort their looks. That's why I hope I could learn to do free hand drawing with these tutorials. Btw, Kimura Takuya is the most beautiful male star in Japan for the length of his 20 year career. Very feminine like yet very manly. I don't suppose my drawing skills show that yet. :D :D :D (I can't post his photos here but here (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=kimura%20takuya&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi) is a link to see all his many sides.

And no, I don't trace at all. I don't even have tracing paper or light box at home. That would defeat the purpose of drawing free hand, wouldn't it? :lol: (or even following this tutorial for that matter....hahahaha)

I have a question though. I am a bit worried about outlining. Like for this chair, I don't dare put a dark line at the top of chair panel because I've been told that in real life, many things do not have lines(but in the end I still did it in many places). Is darkening the background the only way to show the outline of the shape of the chair.

I actually started with just a chair without the background but because of my phobia of a direct outline line, I am trying to use the shading to outline the chair. If I didn't shade the background, is it acceptable to just leave the white parts (unshaded parts) of the chair entirely out without an outline on the top.

I am also worried about the method of shading. I don't know why I don't dare use straight lines to shade the vertical limbs of the chair as though I fear that it would show as lines. Somehow, I only dare do horizontal lines shading and for a small area, it's difficult and in the end I resorted to smudging it with my finger.

For some reason, there is this image in my head that all surface areas are comprised of many horizontal lines and not so much vertical lines.

Totally confused these days.

But here is my long term goal: To draw with my eyes, to draw without photo references, and to create things from my mind totally and not have to have realistic objects in front of me...briefly, to become an artist truly.

I want to be able to create city scapes of futuristic societies in black and white, crooked streets of fairy land, imagined people doing imaginary things in imaginary landscape or environment by pencil, pen or charcoal. Not paint, not digital art.

Sandra/gakinme

[Flairikal]

Judi,
I've looked at the chair again and attempted to correct some of the lines. Hope it looks better now. Haha.
Here it is, the chair redrawn:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Mar-2007/102906-chair_redrawn_resize.jpg

And the redrawing of the pre-class assignment in lines( I shaded in lines. The scanner did not manage to catch some of the lighter lines)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-Mar-2007/102906-Redrawn_Preclass__resize.jpg

I manage to correct some places I feel is wrong.

[vmiller]

Judi, I have posted my preclass assignments at Re: Basic 101: Pre-Class Assignments and FAQs -- PLEASE READ (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221326&page=32)

I am working on the spheres and I had a hell of a time finding the Chair photo

Chair for Preassignment (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-Oct-2006/43096-37258-28065-Chair1.jpg)



do you want me to repost my pre class here? 'cos the cat walked all over it! lol
I will post my spheres and chair here in next few days.
Do you want me to pm you when I have posted?
vicki :cat:

[vmiller]

What a dummy I am. the chair is in the notes
Vicki

[vmiller]

here are my exercises
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Apr-2007/104840-chair001.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Apr-2007/104840-spheres002.jpghttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Apr-2007/104840-spheres003.jpg

Vicki

[RooGal]

I had a hard time finding the chair as well. Finally just went to the Sticky PDF files, much easier.

Here is my chair and my circles. Do I just move on to Class 2 now?:confused:
Cheers!
Pam

[nancyl746]

My pre, I hope I am posting to oright place
Tear it apart please
Nanc
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Apr-2007/54789-Molly_WC_6.jpg

[Judi1957]

Hi Sandra!:wave:
Nice work! :clap: I love your goals! True-in nature there are no lines so to speak but shading is actully lines isn't it? Technique-that will be the key:thumbsup: ---and practice.:thumbsup:

Hi Flairikal! Nice work! I really think the man looks great!:clap:
Vicki! Love your redo of the :evil: chair!:clap:

Hi Pam (sorry I am late). Great chair and spheres!:clap: Try reworking the chair now with shading-making the lines disapear. Then on to Class 2!

Nancy! Ohhhh that dog is Fab!:clap: :clap:

[RooGal]

:) Thank you Judi, I knew you hadn't forgotten us. I have added shading to my chair. Looking forward to moving to the next class although I'm not sure why - perspective gets confusing to me at times.

Cheers ~ Pam

[barbaara]

Hi!
I started then width chair and bubbles. Did I must include the line practic too?

[barbaara]

I try ,and try, and nothing happened!
I lost my pictures !

[barbaara]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-May-2007/107203-Picture_004.jpg

[barbaara]

:smug: At last!!!!!!http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-May-2007/107203-Picture_006.jpg

[Amazingreys]

Well! Here I am last but hopefully not least.
Attached are my pre-assignment drawings, my spheres, and my chair.
A brief intro: No art since high school (25 years ago, ugh). Got interested in cp about 2 years ago...realized I needed to begin with the basics, and now I've found this class albeit I'm behind most everyone by a few years.

I don't know how to do any of this but it has been a great challenge so far and I'm very excited about improving my drawing skills.

My preassignment drawing is from a photo I took. I have always wanted to paint it but found it too intimidating.
My drawing is amaturish (but that I am, lol) and I am unhappy with it for the most part. HOWEVER I am THRILLED that I tackled the picture. Doing a drawing freehand was very challenging and liberating! I am looking forward to revisiting it at a later date.
The spheres were a fun exercise but harder than I anticipated. Although I didn't have much trouble with the straight line exercises, CIRCLES were tough! That said, I have submitted less than the required 20. I was lazy and thought I wanted to get on to the CHAIR. That's what I get for thinking!
Oh, the chair. This was SO difficult for me. I see many flaws, I found it so difficult to draw this with all the angles etc. It looks like a funhouse chair lol.
I am sure the perspective class will help.
That said, let me know where I need to go from here.
Looking forward to your comments.

[*Deirdre*]

Dana...I am impressed with your drawing skills! You have done very well with the exercises. The only 'flaw' I can see is the chair seems to be rotated 3 or 4 degrees, which is enough to make it seem out of kilter...the angles ect., are fine as far as I can see.:wink2: Well done!:thumbsup:

[JayD]

Dana, put the kitty pic away for now--you will be redrawing it later--to show us your improvement.

[JayD]

Barbara, good work on the spheres and I loe the chair--I noticed that you grounded the chair--it seems to have given you good bearings. Nice work--move onward!

Dana, I think, as I said before your line elements are almost flawless--you have quite the knack for observation. If you draw an object, always think about its form and function, how it sits and what purpose that it serves. Dee makes a good observation about the rotating of the chair. You should give this a try again--just for fun and see it you can line this up--but the chair itself, the delicate handling is beautiful.

[Amazingreys]

Sorry about the double kitty post....once I moved on to this thread I thought maybe I should have posted it here instead of the pre/faq thread...away, away it goes! :lol:
Thank you for your kind comments. My chair IS skewed, I noticed that when I scanned and posted it.
I'm a bit intimidated already about the perspective class...perhaps I'll give that chair another what for! :evil:

Thank you for the comments and suggestions, and the encouragement as well!

[cmwynn]

Barbara - Great starts. I think the most important thing you will learn from these lessons is to see better, that is to observe rather than just look at objects. Your sphere seem to be balls bouncing around.
Dana - you should be thrilled. Doing something you have wanted to do for a long time can be very satisfying. Nothing beats practice and more practice. Don't rush these steps, they really are important in the long run.

[Zarathustra]

Hi Dana. There's no doubting your drawing skills are very good; you've the knack for observation so I can't really comment on the first two. The chair's good too (I dread drawing such things!), but as the others said, just a few subtle degrees out can destroy the accuracy. Perhaps the best way to draw a chair is to start with a 3D cube - if you construct it within that framework you should find it all comes together. I'm sure the perspective class will help you in that department. You'll find you can draw a chair from any angle or perspective. :)

[loulop]

OK, here are my first assigments
First are lineshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Jun-2007/9991-Lines_1.JPG
And more lineshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Jun-2007/9991-Lines_2.JPG
Then the circles with lineshttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Jun-2007/9991-Circles_with_lines.JPG
and finally the pre-assigmenthttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/07-Jun-2007/9991-Penguins.JPG
I am really enjoying this classes, I am serious about being a good drawing person. Tomorrow I will be drawing the chair.
I think this is way more difficult than painting.:o
Lourdes

[barbaara]

Welcome!:wave:
Your lines more straight then my was!

[loulop]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jun-2007/9991-Chair1.JPG Ok here is my chair, go on to lesson 2?
Is that what I do now, read the perspective and then do the assigments?
Thanks Lourdes

[cmwynn]

Lourdes - love the penquin drawing, but as you will here over and over again, it needs more darks. That will come with confidence. You have a fine start with all those lines, not sure the spheres should have an outline, makes then look very two dimensional. Again they would improve with more contrast.
On the chair, read over the advice Zarathrustra gave above about boxing the chair in by starting it with a 3D shape then putting the lines for the chair to fit that space.

[Mustbenuts]

Hi All, I hope I'll be allowed to join Barbara, Dana and Lourdes in the lessons. I haven't checked here in a while. I didn't think there was anyone home but had started doing the exercises anyway. Very glad to see the classes still going. I definitely need the help. So, here's my ref. photo and pre-class drawing. It's better than I expected after so long but there are clearly some problems. One of them is the eye and I can't pinpoint how to fix it.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Jun-2007/107653-Welkin_Head.jpg

and the drawing
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Jun-2007/107653-Wel_Draw_1.jpg

Thanks, Andrea

[Mustbenuts]

Here is my version of the Demon Chair and my spheres. The spheres were too boring and I tried making one of them into an apple. Now, in my defense, I used only straight lines. :lol:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Jun-2007/107653-ChairDr0001.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/10-Jun-2007/107653-SpheresDr0001.jpg

Thanks for looking, Andrea (Feelings not easily hurt.)

[barbaara]

Welcome to join !:clap:
A month I sitting here alone and think that class is abandoned. I am so glad that you with us.Your horse is amazing!

[cmwynn]

Sorry to be so slow answering, these lessons do get buried quickly.
Andrea - glad you are drawing, nothing else helps you "see" better. On the horse's eye, I think you have made it too large relative to the face. The apple is a good change, these exercises may seem too simple but do matter in the long run. This particular chair was designed by some fiend just to confuse us all. I want it to be lined up as a rectangle but it isn't. Yours is fine.
Barbaara - I have answered several of your lessons, hope you are continuing on.

[selfish]

hello Everyone !
I just founded this web site and .... I will be more than happy to take part in this class
this is the orginal picture
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9283/chairxu4.th.jpg (http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chairxu4.jpg)

and my sketch
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/5369/obraz021zi2.th.jpg (http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obraz021zi2.jpg)

[cmwynn]

Hi! selfish? You seem to be looking at the chair from a different angle that is in the reference. The seat should not be that big in proportion to the rest. I have to say I prefer yours to the one we all had to draw. Go back and check the backrest. The left side is too low. Glad you are doing this, so try the straight line spheres, too. They seem simple but will help you along the way.

[Mr. Wry hands]

Hello!
Here are my snowballz! =)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jul-2007/111192-spheres2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/12-Jul-2007/111192-spheres1.jpg
i'm waiting 4 Ur suggestions, comment, etc =)

[Volodya]

Hi, I hope I'll be allowed to join in the lessons. I find the site very useful and interesting. Here's my pre-class drawing and ref. photo I borrowed from you, Andrea :angel: . I am a beginner and definitely need the help. In fact this is my second drawing, the first one was an apple on my table :rolleyes:.I didn´t pay much attention to the hair... and focused on the values.
Thanks, Volodya http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/14-Jul-2007/111697-003.jpg

[cmwynn]

Two brand new members! Glad you are joining us, this is a great way to start.
Mr. Wry hands - the lines in the spheres show a good grasp of the shading necessary to show form, but there is no need to outline them. I cannot tell at this resolution whether you are using straight lines or just masses of tones.
Volodya - focusing on the values is of prime importance. I hope the lessons will help you give more confidence, and from this, use darker lines and shapes. The horse really does look good, just a little light.

[Mr. Wry hands]

Thanx for Your comment, cmwynn!
Well actually there are a lot of short straight lines (2-5mm long). is it ok?

[cmwynn]

Yes, that is right. I just couldn't tell, a problem with scanners and such. They are wonderful, but sometimes hide what we most want to see.

[selfish]

CMWYNN - huge thanks for comment ..
well .. I saw the diffrent angel while I was drawing it ..
but .. i dont know .. I just couldnt change it .. ;)

here is my new .. but I lost the orginal picture somewhere :/
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9650/hiperrealizmkq7.th.jpg (http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hiperrealizmkq7.jpg)

[barbaara]

Wow! Wonderful dark! How You made it?

[cmwynn]

I had to look carefully to see whether this was a drawing or the reference. Great contrasts, makes the metal shine.

[JaxJax]

Hi...anyone ??? :clap: ...Im hoping that this class is....still running....I know that I am VERY late joining this class....by a couple of years....or so :D ....plus....I have been lurking for a few weeks as well....reading the threads and....waiting to see if....anyone else was going to post....anyway...I am absolutely useless at drawing....yet have always had a yearning....to learn....I am also learning watercolours as well....but....I have come to realise....with that medium...I really need to learn to draw first.....soooo....I have put that on the backburner....while I "attempt" to get more proficient with a...pencil....well....I cant get any worse.....:lol:

I have yet to do my choice of PCA....but....I have done the....chair....the lines....and the spheres....with the lines....even though....my freehand circles arent very good...I have learnt that....I can do much better....straight lines with.....a cupped hand position and....drawing them....diagonally...and that...I cant even draw a decent wiggly line....with my left hand...let alone a straight one :D :D ....I must admit....if only to myself...well there doesnt seem to be....anyone else here...that I am....quietly quite pleased with how my chair turned out....although for some reason....my shadows arent showing on the scan...mind you...that is a definite plus point....cos they definitely are....bad :lol:

Anyway....here is my chair

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2007/111935-drawn_chair_2_PCA_resized.jpg

Here are my lines

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2007/111935-drawn_lines_PCA_resized.jpg

and here are my spheres....with a couple of "joke" ones thrown in....I didnt do 20 either....

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-Aug-2007/111935-drawn_spheres_PCA_resized.jpg

[joane]

Saw your recent post and had to look in. You will find so much to learn from here on WC--it still boggles my mind and I don't know what to work on next. I have done most of the basic classes and am working on the 102's--still go back to the basics when I get stuck or look at some of the threads that pertain to what I am doing. Keep working on it--you won't be sorry! Good luck!

[JaxJax]

Thankyou very much Joane....I wasnt sure if there was....anyone around in here....soooo...its nice to see you....even if it is only a....flying visit....Im certainly going to give the rest a go....although...Ive got to pick something for my PCA first...thats going to be a hard one....especially as I need sooooo much help in....every single area
Thanks again

Jacqui

[barbaara]

Heia!:wave:
Welcome and dont worry about emty classes. Keep work and practice. I am stocked in shadow class width three and think you soon catch me. I like the chair, not bad at all!:thumbsup:

[JaxJax]

Hello Barbaara....nice to meet you...and thankyou for the compliment about my chair....that certainly makes me feel a bit better about it...I have been seriously worrying as to whether I was....even good enough to join these classes....knowing how bad I really am....that chair took me over....3 hours to do....I had to concentrate like mad.....:lol: ...anyway...I have to find something to draw for my....PCA...but I have already had a look at....class 2...and I am dreading it already....perspective is a real....bugbear for me....as it seems to be for...quite a few people...at least Im not alone in that fear....:lol: ...anyway...hope to catch up with you....very soon
Thanks again

Jacqui

[JayD]

Barbara and Joane, thank you for commenting to JaxJax--we are short staffed here right now--still trying to fix it--but the classes--there are SOOOO many. You guys are the next generation so please feel free to jump in and lend a hand--and for the record, the classes never close--just some of us old timers are starting to doze off...zzzzzzzzz...there I go again!

Jacqui, you this chair is the arch nemesis of the classes. A couple of things.

1. I would like you to take a stab at redoing the chair. Only this time before you start I want you to construct two boxes stacked one on top of the other--use very light lines for the boxes. Next, I want you to draw the chair within those two boxes. Keep in mind that the bottom box is the bottom part of the chair and that the top box is the top part of the chair.

2. For your lines in the background--use a ruler and try to maintain less shaky lines where the walls intersect.

The class is based on Rudy de Reyna's excellent book How to Draw What You See published by Watson Guptil. The principal ideas in the book revolve around subjects simplified as geometric shapes.

Your drawing is good but this excercise should give it some more punch.

Love the little daisy by the way. NOW. the point of doing all of those circles is that this is a continuous excercise--do hundreds and hundreds of them--so many that your parents think you are psycho--all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy--These circles are your finger excercises and will help you to loose.

Nice work, Jacqui--i look forward to seeing your others posts in the classes!

[JaxJax]

Thankyou soooo much for that Jay....I shall certainly take on board what you have said....and I shall definitely redo the chair....I knew it wasnt right but.....I also know that I have no natural ability....whatsoever....soooo...I am really going to have to work at it....having said that....I totally love doing it....soooo...I shall put in as much work...and "finger exercises" as I need to...and then some more :lol:

As to the...."shaky lines"...I do have an excuse for that...but...you dont want to hear about my health problems....sooooo....now that I know I can use a ruler for them.....hopefully they will be....a thing of the past :)

I bought De Reynas book....at a very good price....from Amazons Marketplace....when I was first reading through the classes....soooo....I now also need to do some more.....reading

Thankyou again Jay...and of course Thanks again also to Barbaara and Joane....for helping me along the way....I really appreciate it

Jacqui

[alija1001]

Hi I have just joined to. I am not very good at drawing and sketching so I thought I would try to do some sketching. I tend to read a lot so hopefully I will try to do some drawing when not reading. I hope that is ok.:clap:

[JaxJax]

Hello Gill....nice to meet you :clap: ...and you are more than welcome here....especially by me...as it will mean I have a "learning compadre" :lol: ...I cant be here constantly either....due to my "health problems"...soooo....we can stumble along together....although....looking at your tiger picture...you seem somewhat "skilled" anyway....another bonus is that....we are not even that far from each other....geographically speaking...as well
Jay...I havent redone the chair yet....unfortunately my hands have been playing up....sooo...I cant even "hold" a pencil...let alone actually use it...I will get it done ASAP....as well as my "finger exercises" :lol:

Jacqui

[Willemien]

hi,
I am also new here. Just signed in and reading, reading, reading......
there is a lot of interesting stuff on the WC, and I could go on reading until I drop, but now it is time for action. So I did my 'first assignement" :lol: and than I go on to the basis lesson, I had a hard figuring out what to draw, because I want to do it all. At the moment I am struggling with perspective, but as I understood, that will be a subject for the next lessons, so I did a face.
It was in the 60ths quite a well-know person in Soul music. Lets look if anybody recognizes him:smug: They eyes are not very well done. On the picture they are totally black, without pupil or highlights, so I did it myself and now I see, they could be a little bit smaller. Also the ear gave me a lot of problems
All t&C more than welcome.

Best Willy

http://album.zoom.nl/user/21306/images/388/3412906/bRHyJF.jpg

[Willemien]

This evening I have done (I don't know how many) spheres. Awesome exercise and I understand that for the next few weeks it will be good to try them every night. The lines only went quite well, but those in the spheres did not want exactly where I wanted them to go.

http://album.zoom.nl/user/21306/images/388/3416593/YaugXy.jpg
http://album.zoom.nl/user/21306/images/388/3416592/sDEhOH.jpg

[alija1001]

Hi everyone well here is a few sketches I have done over the last couple of days. C & C welcome.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2007/78136-Bottle.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2007/78136-Fir_cone.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2007/78136-Pictures_Painted.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/13-Aug-2007/78136-Wine_glass.jpg :clap:

[Willemien]

And last: the chair. As reference points I took the floor and the wall. i did not but them in cubes, because I understood this is in the next lessons. The shading I tried to do as lines. I had quite some difficulty with the round forms in the chair, like in the back of the chair and the legs. Let's see if they will improve in the next lessons.

Do I have to redo the portret with line-shading??

[JayD]

Hi, GILL--you have a great attitude--you get that those excercises are for ongoing practice--you have NO idea how much that pleases me. Keep doing them--they will help loosen you up.

Regarding the bottle, I like the centerline--its the right idea. I would like you to redraw the bottle though. The point of the center line is to help you establish the symetry of the object. Try to get the two sides of the bottle to match as much as possilbe and then do a repost! Great work so far.

I have a love hate relationship with that chair--I like seeing what you folks do with it but that chair is one bugger of a monster to draw sometime and you all should be commended for drawing it.

WILL--I want you to put soul guy away for away but DO NO TOSS IT. Go through the classes and at one point you will be asked to redo the drawing. Its going to be what you will be using to gauge your progress. IF you want to redo the portrait with line shading I would certainly encourgae you to try it but do NOT toss the first one. It has a lot of potential.

Regardng the chair--nice work--but I want you to go ahead and cube it for fun and then use it as a reference for the next lesson.

[Willemien]

I did the chairs again, using cubes (not made by a ruler).
The second drawing is the first one I made. I saw that the seat was not according to the one on the photo, althought, in my humble opinion, the proportions are better. So I did one again, where the seat matched the photo better. This one was more difficult.

[JayD]

The basis of the beginning 101 classes are that the things that surround us are broken down into geometric shapes. Get these shapes down and in theory you should be able to draw anything. This chair excercise is a good example of that premise. Thank you for doing this again. The chair looks much better and we got to see the principles in action.

[alija1001]

Hi here is my chair first attempt. C & C welcome.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/16-Aug-2007/78136-Pictures_Painted.jpg

[JaxJax]

Hello Gill and everyone else :clap: :clap: ....well done with your chair Gill....its certainly not an easy one.....thats for sure.....heres my second attempt...after putting it in....boxes...Ive still got....a heck of a long way to go....but even I can....see a difference with this one....compared to my first....I have also being doing my homework Jay....LOTS and LOTS of circles and straight lines....they are also definitely getting much easier....the more I practice :lol:
Thankyou for looking
Jacqui


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/19-Aug-2007/111935-second_chair_in_boxes_2_resized.jpg


C & C Welcome

[KUNBAR.06]

Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'd like to ask something. I started reading all the threads from the start and I saw someone mention something about a .pdf file format of these lessons. I tried looking for it but I couldn't find it, does anyone still have that file and would be so kind to share it ? Thanks you.

[tswalls]

You should be able to find them at this link.

http://www.atreesse.com/home/wetcanvaspdf.html

Tom

[KUNBAR.06]

Thanks Tom for the response I found them. :D

[KUNBAR.06]

Ok, I've been reading the pdf files and it's awesome. I'm a total noob to classical drawing ( when I was a kid I drew quite nicely but because of the lack of time and no one who could teach me the basics I quit drawing ). I'm still young so don't go too far :P Anyways, I always wanted to learn to draw correctly and this forum is excellent !!! I love web design and digital art but because of the lack of skill I never was able to put my ideas on paper correctly, I hope this will change, I'm taking these classes really seriously :D

Btw, here is my first drawing ( it's obvious I'm a noob, but I'm actually surprised that it ended up like this, I was expecting something way more ugly ).

This is the original image:
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8757/img4781be4.jpg

The sketch:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/696/kidstoycarki5.jpg

// the sketch itself is bigger but I scaled it down so it can be viewed normally.

C & C welcome, huh, I have a long road ahead of me ( i know, the perspective isn't too good and the shadows need working too, especially the car and the legs of the kid... I always hated drawing cars and body parts, so I thought I'll face my fears... ). :D

PS: woops, I just saw I missed a shoe... hah

[barbaara]

Welcome:wave: you start is very good! Lot of practicing and patient!:thumbsup:
I wait you in class 10.

[JaxJax]

Hello and Welcome Kunbar :clap: :clap: ....and anyone else that might be....."lurking"....come on in....we are all very friendly...and I for one am....no good at drawing at all.....soooo....you cant be any worse than me.....sooooo please feel free to join us
Kunbar....your first picture is....awesome....I love it...and to my inexperienced eyes....apart from the perspective....which you already mentioned....it looks rather good to me....cant wait to see what you do with the....."dreaded chair"....I havent even found a piccy of anything...that I feel I can even "attempt" to draw....as my first picture....but....I really must crack on with it....cos....hopefully...I can only get better....cant see how I could get any worse.....:lol: :lol:
Take Care

Jacqui

[JayD]

Kunbar, welcome to Basic 101. I am glad you dropped in. This truck is interesting in that you picked an object that pretty much sums up what this class is about. Geometric shapes. What I am going to want you to do is to put this picture aside and save it for later. When you get further along I will want you to redraw the picture and then place this one by its side so you can see your improvement.

Hi, Gill, Welcome! You're chair is a good start--look at Jacqui's chair and you will see that she has grounded the object by using the corner as a reference point. I would like you to make one more attempt at this chair. Post it and then you can move on to the next class.

Hi Jacqui!!! A much chairier chair--go ahead an move on because you wil probably see this lovely piece of furniture later but try to pick out the geometric shapes in this chair. You have the two cubes stacked but what about the legs, back, etc. Good work!

[KUNBAR.06]

Thanks for the kind words guys, I know that I still have a lot ahead of me and I'll try to give my best :D Thanks JayD for the advice, I'll do that, anyways, I still have to redraw the car by using only lines ( if I'm not mistaking and my memory isn't cheating on me ). Thanks again, I'll be posting the circles and everything else soon. :D Peace.

[alija1001]

:wave: Been practising lines and circles also did the boat again.
I am getting more confident in drawing.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Aug-2007/78136-Pictures_Painted.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Aug-2007/78136-Pictures_Painted_001.jpg http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Aug-2007/78136-Pictures_Painted_002.jpg

[KUNBAR.06]

Ok, here come the lines and circles ( btw, yeah, I know, there are some potatoes and eggs there, but I dew those on purpose... for fun... It's really nice looking at it and seeing how I evolved a bit from the first 2-3 bigger and ugly circles to the nicer and shaded ones... ).

line:

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7633/linesfz2.jpg

// btw, I had better lines too but those pages were way too busy to post :) Anyways, I got the idea, needs more practice though :D

circles:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9449/circleskr6.jpg

// PS sorry for the lined paper, but that was the only thing I had near me when drawing these...

Cheers.

[alija1001]

Hi have done another chair. Yes this looks more stable on the floor. Does this mean I can go on to basic 101 class 2. Yiphee:lol:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/23-Aug-2007/78136-Chair_1.jpg

[JaxJax]

Thankyou sooooo much Jay....I know its not perfect...not by a long way...but...I think I am going to keep this as....my piece for redrawing....in the future....hopefully when I have....improved a great deal....and Thank you for letting me.....move on....I just have the dreaded perspective to get my head around now......lol

Gill your second chair is sooooo much better.....well done

Love everyones circles and lines as well....been doing a lot of those....myself....but I wont post any more....you have seen enough already.....lol

Jacqui

[Dougwas]

Hello all. I figure it is time to make the plunge and start this great course. I just started getting back to art about a year and a half ago. When I say getting back, I mean a long long time ago in high school. I have been hanging around in the Pastel Forum and have learned a great deal from all the helpful artists there (I love getting my hands dusty) but now I think it is time to improve my drawing skills.

I have lurked here long enough. I am looking forward to this challenge. Here is my pre course drawing.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Aug-2007/102199-PreCourse_Sketch.jpg

Thank you for looking,

Doug

[Dougwas]

Well, I got started right away and did a couple of pages of lines and circles. I won't bore you with the lines but I will share my circles with you. When I was shading with the lines I always wanted to use the side of my pencil and shade them. Habits. I also attempted the dreaded chair:eek: . I know the right front leg isn't quite right but I am fairly happy with it. I need this course, because I need to start drawing more difficult subjects to improve and get more confidence.


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Aug-2007/102199-Sketching_101_Chair.jpg


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-Aug-2007/102199-Sketching_101.jpg

Thanks for looking,

Doug

[JayD]

Hi, Doug and welcome to basic 101. I have a quick question before I comment. How do you hold your pencil?

[Dougwas]

Hi JayD. That is a harder question than I first thought. I use the writing position when drawing and the underhand position when I am shading. Thanks for the welcome. I am looking forward to this.

Doug

[JayD]

Hey, Doug--time for comments:

Right off the bat, I suspected that you were using the writing position for your drawings. You have a tightness to your drawing style currently and that is due to the writing position that you are using--the writing position is generally more useful for doing detail.

You are also drawing from your wrist.

I would like you to go back to the beginning of this thread to the lessons and you will find pictures of my daughter Jen holding the pencils in various positions which I would like you to examine.

Then I would like you to attempt the circles again only this time hold your pencil further toward the back loosely using either an overhand or underhand position--do NOT use the writing postion and ONE other thing. Do NOT draw from your wrist--draw from your elbow--stand up if you have to. Do the circles as many times as you can focusing on loosening up your style abit. Doing this at this stage is very important.

Good Luck and don't forget to repost!:)

[Dougwas]

Hi JayD

I can see the difference already. The funny thing is that I always hold my pastels in the underhand position but when I put a pastel pencil in my hand I automaticly put it in the writing position. When I was getting ready to do these circles I started to laugh because when I looked at my hand, I was holding the pencil in the writing position. I am going to show everybody that you can teach an old dog new tricks.

Another thing that I noticed was when I used the underhand position I was drawing from the elbow just like when I use pastels on an easel. I will make sure that in the future I will use the underhand position and draw from the elbow. Thank you for your instructions.

Here are the underhanded circles (sound like they are cheaters :lol: ).

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Sep-2007/102199-Underhanded_Circles.jpg

Thank you,

Doug

[Dougwas]

Hi again JayD

I decided to try drawing the chair again, but this time using the underhand position. I can definitely get used to drawing that way. I felt more relaxed and it didn't matter if got an angle wrong because I can just draw over it. I think I was worrying too much before about getting that "perfect picture" and now I feel free ( If that makes any sense).

Here is my second attempt at the chair. I think you will see the difference.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/01-Sep-2007/102199-Underhanded_Chair.jpg

Thanks

Doug

[JayD]

Doug, I like this one much better--its got a looser feel to it. Keep practicing this chair even when you move on--this is not an easy suject and it would be good to come back to as you improve.

[StancyMcKatt]

Hello everyone.... How are ya'll? I got lost for quite awhile, but I'm back again. :o

I'm sorry for dropping out like I did, Technical school got the best of me. I graduated from that at the very last part of last year. I've spent most of this year on artwork, photography, cleaning out a lot of junk, and generally making progress in lots of little things. :)

I thought that a good place to jump in after so long (over two years... Yipes! :eek: ) would be to start at the chair and go from there.

[Jonas Calhoun]

Gotta start somewhere--I'm literally at the "can't draw a straight line" section. I'll be working through these as fast as I can, but I might only be able to complete a class every two weeks for a while.

Anyway, here's my lines:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/15-Sep-2007/107844-lines.jpg

I wrote arrows to show the direction they went. Some I did in the underhand position, most I did in the writing position (if a particular group says 'underhand', otherwise it's writing position). I found the writing position much more comfortable, but time will tell.
I also found that the faster I went with the lines, the straighter they were. Any thoughts on that?

Oh, and I'm using a Derwent 3B pencil on a Canson sketch pad--it's what I've got at the moment--I'll be running out and buying a bucket of supplies soon though.

Thanks,
Dan

[Jonas Calhoun]

Maybe I can slip this in before anyone notices...

Looks like the PDF posted a while ago didn't include the second batch of instructions JayD left--maybe some kind soul could update it for the future? I didn't realize there was more until I started combing through the past posts (and tried to figure out why everyone drew the same chair!)

Anyway, here's the rest of my stuff for Class 1:

The Circles with lines...I'm not too happy with this, they just don't jump out at me like I would expect them too--I'm going to keep playing with this one.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Sep-2007/107844-circleswithlines.jpg
Next are the two pre-instruction drawings redone with lines. I'm happier with this, I simplified the chair a bit--wanted to get the technique of hatching down rather than all the perspective and such. I think playing a little looser with the realism helped me to understand the point of this exercise. But then I lost it when I did the candle--it again just doesn't feel right. Back to the drawing board for more practice on the candle!
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Sep-2007/107844-PreInstructionwithlines.jpg

And finally, the so-called "Demon Chair". I'm not sure why everyone hates this, although it might be because I'm not too familiar with art as a whole--I actually enjoyed doing this chair. I think I need to play around with shading a little more, but the proportions finally started to feel right to me on this one. Obviously I still need practice, but I'm happy with where I am so far...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Sep-2007/107844-demonchair.jpg

Comments anyone? I'm on to Class 2.

Thanks,
Dan

[doodledee]

Hello all, Since this seems to be a dive right in class, I'm jumping!

I've done the pre-drawing and chose to draw a child from life because that is the most intimidating subject for me. I feel quite a bit of pressure drawing from life, even more so with a child that you know is going to move any moment. To heavy handed and you get a little old person! Porportions are different from adults and I have yet to find any significant amount of written info on children's porportions.

Also attached are lines & circles.

[doodledee]

Here's the chair, 2nd photo of chair w/vanishing point, horizon line and a redraw of pre drawing. The chair was a bit annoying, looks like there is 2 light sources making the shadows a bit confusing also seems like the photo is a bit skewed or is that my crossed eyes?:lol:

[JayD]

Jonas, dont work at a breakneck pace--take you time--also focus on doing these drawing from your elbow and not from your wrist-you will find that you can draw a straight line, just takes a bit of practice. Keep going at this and do not get discouraged!

Regarding the candle, you are thinking in 2 dimensions--you have to draw what you cannot see as well as what you can see--every aspect of a 3d object counts whether or not you can see every part of it.

Doodles, I love your chairs, chairs are the gorgons of this class, you know--but I did notice something interesting--you seem very comfortable drawing inanimate objects but I don't see the same kind of comfort drawing the child--at some point, further into the classes. I would like you to come back and redo the child--not now, but later so keep that in mind.

Crystal, I missed your post, I am sorry--its a nice chair but dont concentrate so much on getting the detail--I need you to focus on drawing from your elbow and not from yor wrist--draw loosely and above all, think of the object as a solid three dimensional form which posseses volume. I would like yo to try this chair again, just for fun.

[Esterlin]

Hello everyone! First timer and looking forward to participating in this class.
I'll try to get over my not-owning-a-scanner problem and post the assignments as soon as possible. :)

[doodledee]

Will do JD, thanks for looking at my drawings

[JayD]

We'll try to be here more often, doodles!

[artyst]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Sep-2007/117801-scan0004.jpg

[artyst]

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Sep-2007/117801-scan0001.jpg

[JayD]

Hi, Artyst--is this your preclass piece? Class one is for drawing basics.

[artyst]

Hi, Artyst--is this your preclass piece? Class one is for drawing basics.

I'm sorry. I posted this piece in the wrong place. :( I'll correct the problem.

[Amethyst Angel]

Hi

I am assuming I can just join in...

I have been practising the lines which was really good...I found what feels comfy and works well for me! I will continue practising.

I have also done my spheres...which as I have never done these before, I found difficult, only because I realised where is the light coming from and how do I make them look round LOL. As I said I am a real beginner, but so far am enjoying the journey!!!! :)

Well off to do the chair........

[JayD]

Hi, Trish--great first set--let me make an observation. It looks to me like you might be drawing using a writing position. Go back to my original post at the beginning of the thread where I give the lecture and you will see that we have posted several writing positions. The writing position is used for detail modeling so I would like you to go back the redo these spheres.

use any of the mentioned postions EXCEPT the writing position--also, I want you do draw loosely and FROM YOUR ELBOW. dont worry abot being perfect. Art is not perfect--only the ideas that it represents.

Redo these drawing and then post. I look forward to seeing your stuff!

[MineAlways]

Hello every one
I have just joined a few days ago and I am working on my assingments

I have the circles and lines done, I am still working on my pre class assingment and the chair

Thank you for having this class it means so much to me
I cant wait to get started!

I will post my pictures later

(do you want me to post when I am done with each one or just wait untill I am done with all?)

[mom x 4]

Where do I post the pre-class assignment? I've been posting in this forum for a little bit, but I finally decided to take the plunge and go through the basics class (like I probably should have from the beginning, lol). I have done some of the first pieces, but that was a while ago, so I'm going to do them again to get a fresh idea where I'm at with this.

[wascally wabbit]

I'm a little confused already! :( Over the past couple of days I drew over 100 circles (practice makes better - if not perfect :D) and I spent all day redrawing my boat. I was tempted to leave the terrain and concentrate on the boat and hut as I've no idea how to tackle terrain and the last picture looked like I didn't care. I didn't though because I thought (!) I knew the purpose of the exercise was to:
learn how to hold the pencil;
learn to draw from the elbow; and
learn to draw straight lines.But then I was browsing through the thread while my tatties cooked - thinking how hungry I was and that I'd tackle the chair tomorrow - when I got to page thirty-three and there's talk that the exercises were also to learn contour shading and following the geometric shapes which is what I was tempted to do but refrained myself from doing! :eek:

So I'm a little confused now and don't know whether I need to draw the picture again. Luckily I realise (I think) that when drawing the chair I can use contour shading, hatching or cross-hatching and it doesn't matter which.

Hmmm, I imagine this is what it's like writing in a diary. Dear diary, today there was supposed to be snow... :lol:

Anyway, even though I don't know if I did the right thing or not I think this picture is a little better. The shape of the boat is wrong and it looks like one side has collapsed, and I've still no idea on texture or rendering grass or heather, but still there is a (very) little depth. Oh and I was bad and used a mechanical pencil - sharpening was driving me insane!

- Wabbit


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Dec-2007/125214-class1.jpg

[wascally wabbit]

I shan't lie, I didn't enjoy drawing the chair at all! It's the devil's chair :evil:, and if I were in possession of it I would have burnt it long ago! I'm not sure I could sleep knowing it were in the same house as me.

I didn't draw cubes or extend to the horizon because I haven't learnt to do that yet, perhaps after I've done that class I shall redraw but at the moment I feel I'd rather poke my eyes out with a bread stick. I'll take solace in knowing that it could have been worse and that I shouldn't try to run before I can walk! :lol:

- Wabbit


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Dec-2007/125214-chair_sketch.jpg

[Willemien]

Hi Wabbit,
Your chair isn't that bad at all. Me too, had major problems with drawing the chair, until I got the advice to put it in cubes, (see former posts) that made it a lot easier,

Good luck,
Willy

[wascally wabbit]

Thanks Willy, although I think it looked better before I went away and came back to look at it again! :D I just took a stroll to the supermarket and was thinking of the chair and all the things I could whinge about so I think it's best I leave it for the moment before I get too hung up on it. :lol: Hmmmm, no doubt I'll come back to it after the perspective class so I can give it the opportunity to kick me while down again lol.


Wabbit

[artyst]

I shan't lie, I didn't enjoy drawing the chair at all! It's the devil's chair :evil:, and if I were in possession of it I would have burnt it long ago! I'm not sure I could sleep knowing it were in the same house as me.

I didn't draw cubes or extend to the horizon because I haven't learnt to do that yet, perhaps after I've done that class I shall redraw but at the moment I feel I'd rather poke my eyes out with a bread stick. I'll take solace in knowing that it could have been worse and that I shouldn't try to run before I can walk! :lol:

- Wabbit


http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/09-Dec-2007/125214-chair_sketch.jpg

What an interesting commentary. It sounds a little like Edgar Allan Poe's style.

The chair looks great. :)

[wascally wabbit]

Edgar Allan Poe? No no, nothing like that - just pure hatred for the chair! ;)

Thanks for commenting on my chair --- now I feel I can move on to the next class before someone comes along and tells me to draw it again. :clap:

[juliaiam]

Hi. My name is Julia. I moved to San Francisco from Las Vegas about six months ago, and I was silly enough to sell all of my painting supplies before moving! I'm rebuilding my painting arsenal, so it's time to brush up on my skills :heart: This class is great for the sheer fact that it has me drawing (I have the tendancy to want to perfect an idea for a whole set of pieces in my head before starting one)...thanks is what I'm saying. I look forward to your comments and criticism.

This first attachment is just my practice lines.

[brandywyne13]

Well, I did my pre class and placed it in that thread. So here goes for the first assignment. I did the lines, and it was easier with the underhanded position. The circles were more difficult. Twenty seemed to get the better of me but here it is:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Dec-2007/125915-circles1.jpg

The chair is awful. I see so many errors, in this case I feel blessed that I am such a beginner and will improve. I hope.:o

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/20-Dec-2007/125915-chair1.jpg

I didn't redo my pre-class. It is a little close to my heart right now:crying: .

Dana

[crazy_fijkus]

Howdy!

Well, I have completed the preclass peice, which is here.

Pre-class image (http://crazyfijkus.deviantart.com/art/Portriate-of-a-Mitsubishi-Zero-73051862)

More will come later, obviously.

-Roy

[cmwynn]

Oops - I haven't checked in here enough lately. If your response is slow, just give one of us a PM to nudge us (gently) along.
Julia - Glad you are participating. I feel strongly that any drawing practice will improve painting in the long run.
Dana - the cirlces show the lines but you should be getting the edges just from the ends of the lines, not with a hard outline. Chairs look simple but they never are. Keep at it, we all start somewhere. And the point of the pre-class assignment is to have something to compare when you get better, not to correct it now.
Roy - Glad to have another new face here. I wish you would post your image on WetCanvas itself rather than an outside site. This one is just not opening for me.