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mroy27
10-29-2009, 11:18 AM
Hello All,
I am primarily a self taught artist who is truly inspired by Daniel Gerhartz and Pino's work. I am not sure if they qualify to be in the 'Masters' category and if not then feel free to move this thread to wherever it suits. I recently started doing some paintings based on their work. Of course I have very tiny copies of their work and can barely see what is going on in terms of colors and values and the internet versions aren't that dependable either, so took some liberty. Here are my latest attempts. Any critique or comment to improve them is highly appreciated.
Thanks
Manju

The first one is based on Her Favorite Place by Dan and is 20 by 24 inches, oil
The second one is based on Reflections by Pino and is 15 by 30 inches, oil

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Oct-2009/33409-Her_Fav_Place_WC.jpg

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-Oct-2009/33409-Reflections_WC.jpg

I also did another Dan Gerhartz painting and here is the thread to that:
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8251519#post8251519

LGHumphrey
10-30-2009, 05:29 PM
Gerhartz and Pino are modern masters in my book. You've made lovely copies.

BeeCeeEss
11-06-2009, 09:01 PM
I'm not familiar with Dan Gerhartz, but I'm a big fan of Pino's work.

I really like the upper painting for its composition and the pose of the woman. The colors have a soft and dreamy quality.

The lower painting is certainly Pino-esque for its bold splashes of color and the suggestive handling of the fringe on the bottom of the shawl.

Both are nicely done.

Beverly

greensyster
11-15-2009, 03:30 AM
I think you will learn from and enjoy http://talyajohnson.com/tali-blog/

Tali has generously written up her experience and lessons learnt when at Dan's workshop in August this year.

!becca
11-15-2009, 09:07 AM
mroy, I am familiar with these paintings. You seem to have the mood captured.

Greensyster, thanks for the link. Gerhartz is one of my two favorite portrait artists, loved the summary.

dcorc
11-15-2009, 10:30 AM
Hi Manju.

I get the impression that you are using glazing much more than I think either of these artists probably do?

I think they both probably paint in a more direct fashion? (Pino may use glazing more than Gerhartz?) - trying to hit the correct colour for each brushstroke as correctly as possible. Read Talya Johnson's blog from the link above, its very informative. Getting colours "tiled" in, and then working on selectively softening and blending edges and transitions within the painting session.

If we look at Dan Gerhartz's original, at his website:
http://www.danielgerhartz.com/display_image.aspx?painting=HerFavoritePlace

a couple of things strike me about it - firstly, the general background is markedly darker than you have in yours - and this allows the figure to stand out.

Secondly, you've delineated the trees and branches, with curving lines, much more than he has - he's suggested them with straight strokes of paint, where branches catch the light - this approach makes you "see" more than is actually there. a lot of the smaller branches and twigs show up for a while and are then lost again, rather than being drawn - this is an issue of putting down what can be seen. more than what you know is there.

The combination of these two aspects results in a difference of emphasis between your painting and his, I think. In his, the emphasis is much more strongly on the figure, whereas in yours, the drawing of the branches in the background draws the eye much more strongly to them.

Please don't feel too criticised by my comments, your painting is very nice, I'm commenting in the hope that its helpful to you.


Dave

mroy27
07-17-2010, 12:10 PM
First of all big apology for resurrecting a thread that is so old. My reasons for doing this, all my notifications for this thread had gone straight to my spam folder and I never realized that I actually had received such valuable critiques for my attempts, such wonderful links for learning. I did check the first few times and got disillusioned that I did not receive any critique. The only reason I went back to check this one out is because I just yesterday learnt that Pino passed away in May. Again I am few months late about that too. I am saddened by his death so much, I always felt he was or rather is my guru.

Thanks you !becca, Beverly, LGHumphrey for your comments.
Thanks greensyster for your thread. Actually I follow Tali's work a lot. She is superb.
And last but not least Dave thanks so much for your critique. That's exactly what I am looking for and since the time I posted those paintings I have learnt a lot, at least I would like to think that I have learnt a lot.

I am posting some more paintings that I did. I wish I could through my painting post a tribute to Pino too...

The first is my attempt at Music Lover by Pino. 20 X 24
Second is I think is by Gerhertz, I need to check his exact title. 16 X 20
And the third is Dancer by Pino, it is 30 X 40...
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jul-2010/33409-Music_Lover2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-Jul-2010/33409-Autumn2.jpg

mroy27
07-17-2010, 12:14 PM
Dancer by Pino....an artist who opened my eyes to who I am...

LGHumphrey
07-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Good to see you and your work again Manju.

Yes, what a shame about Pino, he was an inspiring artist.

LGHumphrey
07-18-2010, 05:43 PM
Manju, what about Morgan Weistling, do you know his work? I've opened a thread on the Portrait Forum for copies of his work--he has given his permission--and several people have expressed interest in painting copies.

Would you like to do a copy?

mroy27
07-19-2010, 05:56 PM
LGHumphrey: I would absolutely like to copy one of his work ..his work is stunning and right up my alley. I just went and saw the thread that you have started. Well, let me see what I can do but how did you manage to get his permission? Do you know him!?

LGHumphrey
08-05-2010, 04:43 PM
mroy27, sorry to be so late, lost track of this thread. I don't know Morgan personally, I simply e-mailed him and asked if it's OK for students to copy his works and post them for example at the end of a course or on the art forums, and he generously gave his agreement, only asking (needless to say) that his name be mentioned.