View Full Version : Oldies but Goodies - Marc Chagall - Sept 5 - 18
09-05-2009, 01:18 AM
This month we are learning about Marc Chagall from Russia.
Marc Chagall (1887–1985), born in Belarus to a Hassidic family, began his education at a traditional Jewish school in Vitebsk. After studying with a local artist for several years, the artist moved to St. Petersberg in 1907 and continued his studies at the Zvantseva School. Chagall moved to Paris in 1910 and his inventive imagery won immediate recognition in the city's avant-garde circles. Here he began to assimilate cubist characteristics into his expressionistic style. He is considered a forerunner of surrealism. The artist returned to Belarus in 1915 where his support of the Bolshevik Revolution led to his appointment as Commissar for the Arts in Vitebsk in 1918. During his tenure, Chagall founded an art school and museum but, disillusioned with the political environment of Russia, he returned to Paris in 1922, where where he spent most of his life.
Chagall's dream-based imagery was revered by contemporary Surrealists yet he refused to join the movement, preferring to pursue his individualistic path. Chagall maintained a consistent style throughout his long career. His frequently repeated subject matter was drawn from Jewish life and folklore; he was particularly fond of flower and animal symbols. The artist translated his imaginative folkloric imagery to stained glass and designed windows for cathedrals in Metz and Reims. Among his well-known works are I and the Village (1911; Mus. of Modern Art, New York City) and The Rabbi of Vitebsk (Art Inst., Chicago).
He designed the sets and costumes for Stravinsky's ballet Firebird (1945). Chagall's twelve stained-glass windows, symbolizing the tribes of Israel, were exhibited in Paris and New York City before being installed (1962) in the Hadassah-Hebrew Univ. Medical Center synagogue in Jerusalem. His two vast murals for New York's Metropolitan Opera House, treating symbolically the sources and the triumph of music, were installed in 1966. Much of Chagall's work is rendered with an extraordinary formal inventiveness and a deceptive fairy-tale naïveté. Chagall illustrated numerous books, including Gogol's Dead Souls, La Fontaine's Fables, and Illustrations for the Bible (1956). A prolific artist and dazzling colorist, Chagall's vast oeuvre of both religious and secular subjects has gained worldwide recognition. A museum of his work opened in Nice in 1973. His name is also spelled Shagall.
Here are some of his links. From some of his quotes, he basically want to be free to create what he wants and did not care if he mutilated the figures in his paintings. He wanted to freely express himself.
Feel free to create art that are similar to his.
09-05-2009, 12:46 PM
Sandra...a great introduction to Chagall. One of my favourite painters!!
09-06-2009, 05:59 PM
I"ve never seen the middle one with what looks like circus performers on thre horse with the violin and flowers....such soft. luminous, light-shadowed depth to so much of his work...including this gentle piece!
Quite like that one!
09-08-2009, 06:58 PM
Hi Ladies, Sandra, thanks for hosting this thread, June, I love your Chagall cat its soft and sweet:thumbsup: . I mite have a go at one of these, i found this site on the net here's the link http://www.geocities.com/sulawesiprince/russia/art_images/chagall1945.html its got some cool paintings of his, it also has a link to Marc Chagall at the Weinstein Gallery, check it out...........
09-08-2009, 08:49 PM
Hi everyone. I think we have to be careful of copyright here as I believe the copyright extends for 70 years after an artist's birth (not 70 years after the making of the artwork). And I just checked to see Chagall died in 1985.
I know it is usually OK to make small studies (and studies of parts of artworks) for learning purposes...however to be on the safe side of copyright law, I think we should limit work in this thread to studies in the style of Chagal...and not post direct copies of his artwork.
I will check up on the wetcanvas rule about this and get back to you.
09-09-2009, 11:03 AM
OK, June...this is bits and pieces from different Chagall lithos with some touches of my own...done in a sketch book. I think this would be all right, as it isn't a direct copy.
India Ink and caran d'ache crayons.
I want to do more....but I'll wait and see what you find out. I would like to do one that is completely my own but in his style....if I can manage it. :heart:
09-09-2009, 11:40 AM
Yes, June. I noticed he is a contemporary artist. That's why I also wrote that we should create art similar to his rather than direct copy just to be on the safe side. But come to think about it, we should just use his soft style and create our own art to be totally safe.
Many of his pieces are not soft like this. They have disjointed body parts here and there. I chose the more soft looking and complete pieces. When I first googled his works, I was like, "Oops, what am I getting into here? Surreal stuff?" But the more I search, the more I notice he has a style of his own.
lovin art/Sandra, hope you would create some art too.
Janet, good interpretation of his style. I saw many pieces of his that looks just like this with a lot of floral decorations! Neat colors!!!
09-10-2009, 12:56 AM
Here's the reply I got from asking about this in the admin
'I believe the rule is that the artist must be well dead for 70 years before one can 'copy' the work and post it anywhere. It cannot be sold nor exhibited. '
So I think its pretty clear. I will start a thread on the copyright issue ASAP.
09-10-2009, 01:49 AM
Thanks June, at least we know whats the go with the copyright issue, looks like i have to get my thinking cap on and come up with some idea's....Trafford this looks great, very nice art.....:wave:
09-10-2009, 04:50 PM
June, I don't agree with that interpretation of copyright law, but stand to be corrected.
There's a thing called "fair use" which would seem to allow an educational site like this one to show copies, though of course NOT for sale.
09-11-2009, 11:57 AM
Here are a couple of 'Chagall Inspiration' sketches.
India Ink and Caran d'ache crayons.
That takes care of MC for me. Beautiful artist :heart:
09-11-2009, 05:46 PM
Wow Trafford, these are very yummie, wonderful:) i just love them, my fav is the ballerina, i have been havein a go at one, my bestfriends getting married today so i thought maybe along the lines of the bride on her way to church or somthing like that.....very nice....
09-11-2009, 08:48 PM
Beautiful, Janet. They are so whimsical, both of them. You especially have a light touch to the theme and the delivery of these images! The ballerina really feels like she's twirling and the cat maestro has such a great costume and air!Inspiring.
09-12-2009, 05:32 AM
Thanks for the comments Sandra and Sandra :) Chagall makes for great doodles. I could do more, but there is still Pyle (copy away, he died in 1911) and the Fauves, plus paint along.
Have a nice weekend. :heart:
09-13-2009, 02:26 AM
Janet, haha...yes, as soon as I get to, I'll copy away all of Fauves movement.
Here is an imitation of Chagall's stained glass pieces. He has a piece called The Dream of Jacob that I got from a book but I couldn't find it on the web but at google here (http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&sa=1&q=chagall%2C+stained+glass&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0), you could see a lot of his stained glass work. They are of course mostly biblical in context.
I used a plastic transparency, a Bic Permanent marker for the black lines and the figures I doddled on a white sheet first of my two lovebirds and then I copied it from above and put Dr. Ph. Martin's Bombay Ink in each segment.
This is the first time I could improvise my lovebirds without the need for manikins anymore. In case you wonder who are these lovebirds, they are gay people that I write about in a long long story with a couple of friends.
I'm sure Chagall wouldn't have minded me copying his style with gay people since there are quite a few gay ones in the bible too.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I should have really done this on paper. What was I thinking about? Paste this on my window for my husband to see? :p :p
09-13-2009, 04:52 AM
Wow, lovely Sandra,:) well i dont know about your husband but mine would think its the go-ahead if he saw this hanging on our window:lol: i love it, the colours are wonderful and vibant in this peice....well done....just got to start on mine now.
09-13-2009, 09:38 AM
You are so inventive Sandra....nice stained glass.
I'm afraid we can't copy the Fauves either since most of the artists died within the last 70 years. I still don't understand why we can't post an original work, not to copy but to learn from, but what do I know...we certainly don't want to make a big deal out of it....There are plenty of artists who died before 1940 to work with and we can link the others.
I'm going to work on H. Pyle next. Keep painting :heart:
09-13-2009, 10:57 AM
Thank you, Sandra, Janet, for your comments. Sandra, sounds like you have a very easy going husband. Lucky you!
I often draw naked men together and I don't show it to him though I show it to my kids. My daughter used to shield her eyes but now she looks over my shoulder and just say, "Oh, one of those." LOL.
Janet, okay, I'll watch when they died and copy only those who died before 1939. We are really morbid here. LOL.
09-13-2009, 04:38 PM
I'll watch when they died and copy only those who died before 1939. We are really morbid here. LOL.
You said it,:lol: it is a shame we can't copy them if only for study. i wonder what the artists would say on the matter!.....if they were still here with us.
09-13-2009, 09:00 PM
Here is my second piece a la Chagall. He had a piece of self portrait that was just superb. He was actually very skilled in portraits and I don't understand why he did more of the fragmented and flying persons instead. His David in Profile (1914) and this Self Portrait (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=chagall%2C+self+portrait&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=&aqi=) are superb.
This is Jang Dong Gun, my favorite Korean actor. Here was my draft which I scanned in case I messed it up. Then I put Winsor & Newton Water Mixable Oil on it. OMG, at one point, he was like roasted and I didn't know whether to junk it or not. I have no concept of how to do skin color. :lol:
The Aquabee Super Deluxe 93 lbs sketch book held up today. As long as you wait until it dried and then splatter more paint on it, it's fine and it doesn't even curl.
I really had fun with this piece. This is the first time I find myself thinking it looks quite like him out of all my previous works (http://www.wretch.cc/blog/gakinme/7672304). But my daughter cringed at the oil painting and said it looked like Michael Jackson. "NO!" I said. No way. I went to ask my boys and the youngest thought it looked like Jang Dong Gun and the middle one said it looked like Michael Jackson. I gave him the same clothes as Chagall and didn't do the plant because I simply love his hair. There was a time he had long curly hair like that! :o :o :heart: :heart: If you haven't figured out yet, I'm a star chaser...hehehe...
09-14-2009, 12:53 AM
And another tribute to Marc Chagall. I have to try drawing flying people no matter how. This piece is inspired by his piece, The Painter to the Moon (http://www.encore-editions.com/artists/chagallmarc/thumbs/The_Painter_to_the_Moon_1917.jpg).
"Lovers to the Moon"
Academie Heavyweight Sketchbook which continues to surprise me. I put almost 5 washes consecutively without waiting for it to dry and it's stronger than the Aquabee Superdeluxe 93 lbs sketchbook. This Sketchbook is no more than 80 lbs and at some site, it says it's only 50 lbs. Good thing I have 8 of them.
I personally find my rendition too sweet and simple. Photoshop fresco filter does a better job.
09-14-2009, 01:14 AM
Sandra, your on a roll girl, these are all very lovely you've done a great job with the portrait and the skin colour is fine, i must say the second one is my fave and the shopped version is cool to. Well i sat done and started this, i was stumped and found this hard to do, i have no creative flare today and i have no good paper to do this on at the moment so i just started on a peice of A4, i love all of Chagall's wedding theme's and my girlfriend got married on the weekend so i am dedicateing this in her in the like of his work.....its not very good and i didn't think it was good enough to put on here with all your work....please forgive me:lol:
09-14-2009, 01:22 AM
Sandra, thank you for your comment. Your piece is cute. You have so much going. A tree growing out of a pot with an interesting head, some animals and night and day. It's a wish for her peaceful life from now onwards, night and day, non-stop? I'd like to live in a stained glass window house too! I was looking at this genre of his and I couldn't come up with doodles with so many things happening.
I was tempted to do something along the line of this piece (http://www.chess-theory.com/images1/04007_marc_chagall.jpg) but when I study it more, it looked not only difficult but a bit disjointed if not depressing. I'm in the mood for love paintings.
09-14-2009, 01:55 AM
thanks Sandra, you are being to kind:) , it could have been better maybe the next one:lol: yes there is a lot going on in this type of work of his, and it can be abit confusing, i think you really have to study some of it and then keep going back over it to get a feel for it......i agree that peice you talked about looks abit mindblowing...i'm all the the love too.:D
09-15-2009, 07:17 PM
Hi Sandra, I love that cat playing the violin...very Chagall-type of imagery!!
09-15-2009, 07:18 PM
Trafford, you caught the Chagall-look very well. Love those pieces.
09-15-2009, 07:20 PM
Gakinme, I like your people...and their pose reminds me of Chagall's resting poet. Do you know that one?
09-16-2009, 07:27 AM
Charming painting lovin. So much to look at and very Chagall. The bride looks like she is going to have a very happy day. :heart:
09-16-2009, 07:29 AM
Sandra, your portrait looks so much like Johnny Depp to me....though I know he wasn't the model. Good work. :)
09-17-2009, 10:17 AM
Thank you, Janet, for your comment. He looks like Johnny Depp? That is funny. My daughter at one point thought I was drawing Orlando Bloom. Cute.
June, thank you for your comment too. I haven't seen The Resting Poet. I saw the Poet, the Reclining Poet.
You know, there are really a few more pieces I want to do of Chagall's, especially the Praying Jew style and the proper portraits type. He was very thorough on the fabrics fold but there's not enough time. The Fauve Movement is really calling me this week.
09-18-2009, 09:58 AM
OK ...got this done this morning...very slap-dash but fun. 'Hommage to Chagall: Bride with rooster and chicken':D
Acrylics, 8 by 12 ins, paper.
09-18-2009, 11:59 AM
June ...so beautiful! A Chagall inspiration...Would be a great Fauve also. :heart:
09-18-2009, 01:45 PM
June, definitely very Chagall down to the expression of this girl!!! Nice work there.
09-18-2009, 05:22 PM
Two for one: fauve Chagall!!
09-22-2009, 07:14 PM
June, this peice is oh so lovely and very in the like of his work, i love the colours in this you should frame this.:clap:
09-24-2009, 01:13 AM
Many thanks for the positive comments about the 'bride'. I was tempted to 'pretty' her face but deliberately left her as is. I loved painting the chooks!!
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