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05-01-2009, 02:59 PM
(Austrian Painter, 1855-1927)
I went to an exhibition of Marianne and Edward Stokes' paintings recently and enjoyed it very much.
I particularly liked Marianne Stokes' egg tempera portraits. Some were actually quite small (5 by 7 ins).:thumbsup:
So I thought we could add an extra challenge this fortnight and do a study in egg tempera of one of her works...but only...if you feel inclined.
Otherwise, the rules are the same as usual. We have a fortnight to study her work, add links of interest, and make a study-copy of one (or more) of her paintings in any medium, any size, that suits us.
05-01-2009, 03:01 PM
05-01-2009, 03:02 PM
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Marianne_Stokes (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Marianne_Stokes) (best selection of images)
05-01-2009, 03:11 PM
She was influenced by the 'rustic naturalists' in her early work, but began to show an interest in Medieval Romance and Biblical/religious paintings later. She was interested in the pre-Raphaelite movement and the influence can be seen in her work, e.g., the angel above.
She and her husband travelled widely in Europe on painting excursions. He painted mainly landscapes and she documented Slovak costumes in paintings of women and girls. Her Madonnas have been used on Christmas stamps in UK.
Have a look on the web for her work. Links above to start you off.
05-01-2009, 03:14 PM
Egg tempera is traditionally made using dry pigment and egg yolk, but if you want to try a quick and easy version, you can mix egg yolk with watercolour paint.
05-01-2009, 04:01 PM
Please explain mixing egg with watercolor? Sounds interesting and worth a try.
She's a lovely artist...check this out on Utube, it's beautiful.
05-01-2009, 07:55 PM
June, thank you for the references. I didn't wait for your recipe for tempera and tried it out with other media.
I've never heard of her before but I chose this pix called Aucassin and Nicolette (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marianne_Stokes05.jpg) and I wanted to stretch my skills on General's Pastel Chalk. OMG, what an eye opener! This is only half a sheet of Strathmore Black Artagain and it's 9 x 6 inch in actual size. It's very vibrant.
The actual piece is slightly brighter but photoshop refused to give me fine grains and deeper colors in real life.
And as usual, I misjudged the size and had only enough paper to do up to the knee and have to forgo the legs. :lol: :lol: I only have 12 colors and I just don't have that light grayish tan color for the lady.
And I have to thank you for the challenge because I think this is the first time I learnt to blend facial colors with pastel and do fingers without them looking like sticks.
Photoshopped with auto function.
05-02-2009, 08:05 AM
Sandra the soft pastels on black paper are very striking and vibrant. I haven't used Strathmore paper myself...does it have lots of 'tooth', like colorfix paper?
05-02-2009, 08:07 AM
The metal armour comes out very well in your pastels. Do you know the story behind this Medieval kngiht and his lover? I haven't heard of these two before.
Trafford, I loved watching the Stokes video on Utube. Many thanks for that link.
I put a recipe for egg tempera on this thread but my pc deleted it. I am so annoyed. I will have to redo the thing. I'll put it in WORD first this time and repost. Oh the trials!!:o
05-02-2009, 08:58 AM
Making egg tempera with watercolour paint.
You will need
1. watercolour paints (pans or tubes)
2. a fresh egg
3. an egg yolk separator
4. a wooden skewer
5. a piece of kitchen paper towel
6. a glass cup
7. your palette and brushes
8. distilled or filtered water
9. a drop of clove oil or white wine vinegar (optional)
A handy tip to remember is to use only glass, plastic or wooden utensils with egg tempera, as metal will react with the paint.
1. Separate the yolk from the white using an egg separator or by rocking it between the two halves of the broken shell. Put the white to one side, as you won’t need it for the tempera.
2. Place the unbroken yolk sac in a piece of kitchen paper towel and then holding it over the cup, pierce the yolk membrane and let the runny yolk pour down into the container.
3. Put half a teaspoon of distilled or filtered water in with the yolk and mix.
4. Add a drop of clove oil or white wine vinegar to the yolk and water if you wish to deter mould growth and prevent insects from eating your paint. (Ants particularly love egg tempera paint!)
5. Now put this to one side and mix up one of your watercolour pigments with water to create a thick creamy consistency of paint.
6. Put some of your watercolour paint on your palette well and add the same volume of the egg yolk mix to the paint and mix together.
You can use the paint mix at full strength or you can thin it to make washes as per normal watercolour painting.
05-02-2009, 09:17 AM
Thanks, June. I know how annoying it is when you are in the middle of a long explanation or letter and get bounced out, and then have to redo the whole thing.......I do appreciate it, though, and will do some studies using the water color/tempera method.
Gaknme, nice pastel work. I like it on the black.
Here is a little painting I did a long time ago that reminds me some of Stokes angel. Wish my colors were truer.
I'm really intrigued with THE ANGEL OF DEATH, may give that a try :heart:
05-02-2009, 02:28 PM
Yes your painting is reminiscent of Stokes, Trafford. I love the clear colour and the woman's pensive look.
Looking forward to seeing your 'angel of death' if you decide to do it.
05-02-2009, 04:36 PM
Thank you, June, trafford, for your comments and thank you for the egg tempera recipe. Why do people put eggs to it? Does it make the painting smoother?
June, the Strathmore Black Artagain is only 60 lbs and lightly textured. When I use Pastel Chalk, some would evitably flake out and you have to dust it away. It is designed for soft pastel and charcoal work but I haven't tried real soft pastel sticks yet. Only Pastel chalk pencils. I'll give it a try tonight to see how it goes.
05-03-2009, 01:20 AM
Sandra, with egg tempera, you can build up layer upon layer and each layer is protected from mixing with the underlayers by the yolk. You can achieve effects that are quite substantial and rich, akin to oils, but with its own special silk glow.
05-03-2009, 05:27 PM
Thank you, June for the input. Alright, I did try it. Don't laugh. I am terrible with a paintbrush and watercolor and acrylics. You know I could do better with pencil and Chinese brush. :lol:
I made my own watercolor egg tempera following your recipe and I didn't realize it would paint like acrylics. Half my egg yolk has almost solidified now and the paint is not so liquidy anymore after I left it for a few hours. Yeah, it's scary to use colors like this. The original painting is here (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marianne_Stokes01.jpg).
The drawing is around 6.5 square inch on Canson watercolor paper, smooth side.
05-03-2009, 09:25 PM
This one is based on Marianne Stoke's image here (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Marianne_Stokes_Candlemas_Day_.jpg) and I did it on Strathmore Black Artagain paper 9x12 inch using the set of 48 SMi soft pastel sticks. The original had a lot of color and dusty. I dusted it out and sprayed it with fixative and it has less color. But no way I'm putting the unsprayed piece on the scanner.
I think this black paper is better with the finer Pastel Chalk pencils because it has less tooth.
05-05-2009, 08:43 AM
:clap: :clap: for trying out the tempera, Sandra. I rather like the tempera baby. A tip for keeping the egg tempera liquid is to cover the mixing pots/palette with plastic food wrap. Also when not using the egg yolk, cover it too, and if you put it in the fridge, it keeps runny for re-use.
05-06-2009, 09:20 AM
A quick copy in pencil and watercolour on cartridge, about 8 by 12 ins.
Not a very good scan, I'm afraid. Plus it was done on cartrdige, it would look better on heavy watercolour paper. I don't think I'll re-do it tho.:wave:
Here's the original drawing, which was covered over by the colour.
See you later.;)
05-06-2009, 10:43 AM
Thanks, June, for the tip on egg tempera. Just hope my husband won't take it out for scrambled eggs. haha...
You have a very good approximation to the quiet disposition of the girl.
05-07-2009, 03:46 PM
I like your choice of medium, goes very well with the atmosphere of chivalry.
what a nice rendering of the "dutch" girl. I live close to the Netherlands, but they don't look like that anymore :lol:.
OK, here is my contribution to this project, pen and ink, water color pencils.
"An Angel" after Marianne Stokes.
05-07-2009, 10:08 PM
Sooo much lovely work already posted!!!! I am "stoked" !!!!!!
I can't comment specifcally at present. I'll be back soon though.
05-08-2009, 01:10 AM
Arnoud, your angel looks regal. Love it. I wonder if I'll have time to do that one. Probably not.
Its very interesting to copy the work of the past.
05-08-2009, 02:22 PM
Everyone is speeding ahead here.
SANDRA...Like the baby in egg tempera, but I'm curious, the shadows seem to have a shinier quality, is that the result of the egg tempera? Trying to learn what I can about the medium.
I love the fact that you took Candlemas Day and used another medium. Very good.
JUNE...Cartridge paper...hmmmm :confused: Had to look that one up, to find it has other names in USA, though I like the sound of the words cartridge paper myself...and your dutch girl is lovely.
ARNOUD3272....Beautiful in watercolor pencils...love her fingers.
Still want to do The Death Angel...will have to get a move on...Janet :heart:
05-09-2009, 12:00 PM
Arnoud, you gave her a slightly pensive look. I like the way you lighten the whole piece.
The lighter effect is using less color and more egg tempera. But the entire piece is edible. LOL.
Cartridge paper I understand is almost the equivalent of our Bristol vellum in the US. The UK uses that and I believe Dale Rowney is one of the company that has cartridge paper.
05-09-2009, 03:39 PM
Cartridge is an all-purpose sketching paper -but bristol vellum sounds good. We have Bristol paper here, which is actually very nice for egg tempera, as it is a kind of white card ....nice and stiff.
05-11-2009, 11:25 AM
Here is a death quickie in the sketch book.
and the original,,,want to take some more time in the future and do this again
05-11-2009, 11:40 AM
Haha...Janet, you really gave this a very comical look. Cute. I was thinking of doing this piece too.
05-11-2009, 12:42 PM
Hi Janet, I love the way you captured the division of the painting into areas of red and black. Reminds me of the Japanese approaches.
05-15-2009, 01:23 AM
gakinme - the couple (guy with armor) has a Chagall look to it, lovely. The baby looks like a teletubby. The textures and line combo is nice. Bravo for trying the tempera. Nice job on the lady with the candle.
Trafford - I enjoyed the u tube on Marianne - what a wonder artist, She had humor, good strong compositions and tenderness and mysticality. I like the fall colors and spring pink with the red haired lady. The Angel of Death is delightful, just!!
June - goodjob for a quickie. Looks just like the original. the back of the dress has nice depth and the red scarf also . That looks like it has great potential to easily look flat.
Arnoud - lovely piece. I like the shape of the lips and the finger language
I got the drawing done tonight and hope to get into some tempera tommorrow or Saturday.
05-15-2009, 01:29 AM
Perhaps this image is better
05-15-2009, 09:40 AM
A magical illustration, Robin...can hardly wait to see your finished painting. Love the little owl guy up in the corner.
Marianne Stokes, a two week winning artist :clap:
05-18-2009, 09:46 AM
Here it is finished. I rather like the egg tempera. Gotta be careful and not confuse it with tempura:lol:
There was alot to this piece. I liked her attention to detail and fairytale sensitivies. That little dwarf in the left front corner looks so wretched.
Thanks for hosting, June.
05-18-2009, 01:23 PM
Love it Azul...you even got the little owl and the lurking deer. :heart:
05-18-2009, 01:35 PM
Lovely fairy tale. I like your handling of the T. And I can imagine it as children's story illustration.
I'd like to do some children's illustrations sometime. Maybe we could do a feature on those children's illustrators we like, next month...as a separate project from the oldies & goodies. What do you think? Would there be enough interest in it?
05-18-2009, 02:35 PM
Robin, very nice piece. I like the colors you used. It's so much lighter and cheerful.
Yeah, I'd like to try children's book illustrators work too. That's the direction I would like to develop too.
05-18-2009, 06:32 PM
Thanks June and Gakinme - Yes, yes, I'd love to dabble in the children's illustrations area. It would be a nice change.
05-20-2009, 11:21 AM
I did this in watercolour,hope I was able to catch the theme.
05-20-2009, 11:52 AM
You certainly captured the theme, New Breeze. WOW!
05-20-2009, 01:58 PM
Very nice colors especially the scarf part! Good expression too.
05-21-2009, 09:45 AM
Thanks Sandra and Trafford for your appreciation.
05-22-2009, 02:44 AM
Newbreeze, I love this one. The colours are so clean and bright. It captures the theme beautifully.
05-22-2009, 04:33 AM
I've been interested in participating in one of these for a while now, just struggle to find the time. I know I'm past the date on this one but since I got around to having a go I thought I'd post anyway :P
Media is Photoshop and a Wacom tablet, not sure whether that's allowed but its the easiest thing for me to access right now. As you will be able to tell, I just sat the original next to a new window and painted using the paint brush tool on various settings. I also did a tiny bit of burning and at the end added some texture overlays, one to the background and one over the top, both low opacity and soft light / overlay blend modes.
Thanks for setting this up, its great to really look at an artwork and learn about it by copying and it been ages since I've done any.
Was hard to choose which work to copy, I also loved the baby with the cherries and the girl with the chicken. Went with the Angel in the end because I liked the simplicity of the composition and something in her face spoke to me. Not that I managed to capture that softness, might have another go when I get some more time.
Thanks for looking!
05-22-2009, 06:37 AM
My 4 year old was very interested in me drawing and set up next to me to do her own version (in pen, which I'm not sure what she did with as I can't find it). She then did another copy which she painted on and was very, very pleased with.
I scanned it in to include here, hope that's okay. Water paints and pastel on photocopy paper :P
05-22-2009, 06:55 AM
Hi Emlish and welcome to the classical forum projects. I hope you find time to join in with more of them. BTW, any media welcomed.
I love your rendition of the angel..poised an elegant....and as you say, its fun to copy the works and you learn much more than just reading and looking. I wish I had time to do more of them myself.
I do love your daughter's angel. She has done so well to get the pose of the angel and I love her colours too. A happy angel!
05-22-2009, 12:11 PM
Thank you for the welcome, I'm Cathryn by the way, I should make a sig with that in it.
Its so inspiring to see everyone's interpretations of the artworks, I will have to make time to visit this site more often :)
05-23-2009, 01:51 AM
Wow, Cathryn, impressive rendering with the wacom tablet. The face is very well done. Love your four year old's rendition. Great abstract art! Do keep it. It's very refreshing colors!
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