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paul444
04-30-2009, 10:51 AM
Welcome to the May challenge, I am posting three images for you to choose from,

A street performer from Paris.

The ruins of ' the Holy ghost ' church in Basingstoke.

A seagull on the river side at Hamble.

Take one or any of the three references below and paint your interpretation in oil pastels. You can crop, photo manipulate, tweak, alter the format, do whatever you want to the source image to set it up for your painting. Just use your chosen references as inspiration, then post the results here for viewing.

Please include the kind of support (type, brand, weight) used, brand or brands of OP used, and the size of the painting and any other information about special techniques you might have used. Any other comments welcome.

But most of all enjoy yourself.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Apr-2009/82968-street_performer__wc.jpg




http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Apr-2009/82968-holy_ghost2__wc_.jpg



http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Apr-2009/82968-seagull_wc_.jpg

GhettoDaveyHavok
04-30-2009, 11:32 AM
That seagull looks nice and fluffy... Mmmmmmmm....BIRDY.

Great pictures! These are great choices for OP challenges.

Scarefishcrow
04-30-2009, 01:44 PM
Paul,

Thanks so much for taking time to host the May Challenge! What wonderful images. The mime is so tempting since it's a chance to try a face without the complications of getting the nuances of skin tones that can be so daunting. But that old ruin is so enticing as well. And the gull is irresistable.

I can see it is one those months where I spend most of my time deciding and not enough painting!!!!


Bill:thumbsup: :clap: :wave:

Pat Isaac
04-30-2009, 04:50 PM
Thanks, Paul for these great images.

Pat

truck driver
04-30-2009, 08:04 PM
Paul, I dont know if I have time ... I gotta do all three...... just have to..

RG

GhettoDaveyHavok
04-30-2009, 11:32 PM
Uuuuuhh....

This just ain't looking right so far...

4x6" Strathmore 140 lbs. watercolor paper....

Sorry if the paper is weird. I was just finding a way to have the outline visible (my scanner couldn't find it, so I had to scan it with some random document to get a scan). I am horrible with software.

oldrockchick
05-01-2009, 08:57 AM
Ah Paul almost a set from my own collection, I havd musicians from Strasbourg, castles and ruins from all over and seagulls from Suandersfoot. I feel really at home with these :clap: :clap:

Bet you can't guess which I will do first guys ?

Scarefishcrow
05-01-2009, 10:09 AM
Crys,
What bothers you about the sketche??

Bill:wave:

paul444
05-01-2009, 10:11 AM
Hi everyone.

I'm so pleased you like the pictures.

Bill, sorry there are no blue flowers to help you choose..
RG, that would be quite a challenge to do all three, but which one first ? and what about work.. ?
Crystal, you have made a great start , the paper looks fine and it will all be covered in oil pastel soon anyway.
Lin, glad you feel comfortable with these.

I've just made a start on the mime artist, he's drawn out and I've started painting the bowler hat.

Scarefishcrow
05-01-2009, 12:54 PM
Hi everyone.

I'm so pleased you like the pictures.

Bill, sorry there are no blue flowers to help you choose..
.

Good taste in images AND a sense of humor!:lol:

I'll struggle through, Paul. Your concern is most touching!:rolleyes:

I have a feeling this blue flower thing is going to dog the rest of my days!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bill

oldrockchick
05-01-2009, 12:57 PM
Never mind Bill... there's always July :evil: :wink2: :lol: :evil:

truck driver
05-01-2009, 02:51 PM
The ruins of the church 1st..

second will be the mime.

RG

Pat Isaac
05-01-2009, 03:27 PM
This looks fine, Crys. A good start.

Hmmmm...the blue flower, maybe next month..:lol:

Pat

gakinme
05-01-2009, 04:08 PM
Wow, neat photos this month. I might join in too. Thank you, Paul, for the references. I'm into learning how to draw coats so the first one is handy.

Scarefishcrow
05-01-2009, 06:09 PM
This looks fine, Crys. A good start.

Hmmmm...the blue flower, maybe next month..:lol:

Pat

Hmmmm...well,well,Pat! Would you look at that GULL! Doesn't it AWFULLY FAMILIAR to you? Bet you try it, huh?
:evil: :lol: :evil:
Bill

Pat Isaac
05-01-2009, 06:16 PM
I was hoping you wouldn't notice that.....:eek:

Pat

robertsloan2
05-01-2009, 07:28 PM
Paul, all three of these are so interesting. The mime reminds me of New Orleans and there's something intriguing around the mouth -- a change in the actual outline of the mouth from the painted mouth. The ruins are gorgeous and I'm not sure if I'll be able to do them justice. The one I know I've got to do is the gull, that is so awesome complete with its blued shadow. I love the texture of the ocean with it too.

oldrockchick
05-01-2009, 07:46 PM
Wow, neat photos this month. I might join in too. Thank you, Paul, for the references. I'm into learning how to draw coats so the first one is handy.

Ohhhh hello, look who fell into our party :wave:

Welcome, Sandra.

truck driver
05-01-2009, 09:18 PM
I can with near certainty say that bill will get his blue flower very, very soon. You could consider it almost a promise that certain invdividuals must keep.

RG

bchlvr
05-02-2009, 12:05 PM
Hi all! Jumping in head first I guess. First oil pastel and no idea what I am doing. I buy all of these supplies so I figured I might as well use them and the challenges seem like a good way. My first one is the seagull...I plan on trying the rest before the month is out. CrayPas Specialist and Sennelier on 9X12 Wallis paper.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-May-2009/74106-Seagull.jpg

Pat Isaac
05-02-2009, 12:30 PM
Hi Linn, and welcome to the OP forum. ...:wave: Nice to see you again. Nice job on the gull, sure looks like you know what you are doing. I like you nice strong color.

Pat

oldrockchick
05-02-2009, 12:36 PM
Hi Linn ( another one - I'm Lin :p hope they dont' get confused ) :wave:

Nice to see you venturing into OPs. This is an extremely friendly bunch of people.

Your seagull is really good. OPs are tricky at first and take a little getting used to, but I see you have them under control. Looking forward to seeing more of your pieces.

Shirl Parker
05-02-2009, 01:23 PM
...A street performer from Paris...

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-Apr-2009/82968-street_performer__wc.jpg


I drew this guy before, a hundred years ago! He had more makeup on that day.:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-May-2009/113427-Clown.JPG

oldrockchick
05-02-2009, 03:04 PM
Wow Shirl is that the same dude?

Pat Isaac
05-02-2009, 03:29 PM
Same dude, looking at you....nice sketch, Shirl.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-02-2009, 05:58 PM
Hi,Linn! Welcome to the Oil Pastel Channel! Looks like you knew what you weredoing to me!
You've been around WC! for a while, I see, but the following info will help you find your way arourd our little corner! Hope it is helpful!

Just to help you get oriented to this place, click on the link in my signature line called <GO FIRST> (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7172380&postcount=1) and it will take you to a thread that contains links and overviews of all the subforums in this Channel and what is in each one. There are also links to basic OP info and guidelines about posting, critiques, etc.

The following link contains an annotated list of links by topic discussed for recent threads that deal with issues commonly asked by people starting out in OP. Looking through those with give you some additional insight into materials, techniques and various issues dealing with OP:

<FAQs LINKS> (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7494753&postcount=1)

That should save you some time searching around.

This place is great because there are people of all experience levels and we try to have everyone help everyone else. So if there is any way we can help, we will do our best to assist you.

If you have any questions, just start a thread in the OP Talk (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=432)forum and ask away. In the OP Talk forum is a weekly thread called the Oil Gusher which is a thread started each Monday that is a"no topic" thread. People can just say hi, let others know what's going on in their life, catch up on what going on with others, or just meet folks.

Hope you share the fun of working in OP with us! Lots of
Look forward to seeing your work around the forum!!

Welcome to the OP Family!

Bill:thumbsup:



Hi all! Jumping in head first I guess. First oil pastel and no idea what I am doing. I buy all of these supplies so I figured I might as well use them and the challenges seem like a good way. My first one is the seagull...I plan on trying the rest before the month is out. CrayPas Specialist and Sennelier on 9X12 Wallis paper.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/02-May-2009/74106-Seagull.jpg

Scarefishcrow
05-02-2009, 06:00 PM
Shirl, great use of your artistic license!

Bill:wave:

bchlvr
05-02-2009, 07:04 PM
Nice sketch Shirl!

Thanks for your comments and welcome to the oil pastel forum. I visited here awhile back...it may have still been a part of the pastel forum...don't remember. I became discouraged very quickly with the oil pastels and never even did a complete painting...just some scribbles on a section of paper and gave up...even after buying the Senneliers which I thought were the real answer. Of course I had the most problems with the bird and keeping him separate from all of that water. For blending this time I used the rubber shaper blenders I had bought for regular pastels...made blending a lot easier but not sure if I over blended. After the beautiful oil pastels I see on here though I wanted to try again. I have problems with the regular pastels also "just too dusty" but I try with those also. The colors you all get with your oil pastels and the different styles are marvelous!

paul444
05-03-2009, 11:56 AM
Sorry Bill, looks like you might be getting a blue flower after all.

Hello Sandra, welcome to the challenge.

Robert , I'm sure you could do any of the images justice, looking forward to seeing your gull.

Hi Linn, Welcome to op's, your gull looks fantastic, well done.

Great sketch Shirl, it could be him..

gakinme
05-03-2009, 09:24 PM
Lin, I do visit these challenges from time to time. :cat:

Thank you for the reference photos, Paul. Here is my rendition. I had fun doing this.

Pentel oil pastel on Japanese brown craft paper sharing the half page from the grapes from last time. This measures 7 x 8 inch.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-May-2009/86669-op_clown.JPG

Scarefishcrow
05-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Sandra,
What a wonderfully expressive interpretation of the mime! Very good.


Paul it appears to be my "cross to bear" for blue flowers to periodically be tossed my way!:lol: Oh well, could be worse things, couldn't it?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bill

robertsloan2
05-03-2009, 10:41 PM
Linn, your version of the seagull is great. I love the painterly look you got with it and the beautiful proportions. It glows with the light, it's great.

Sandra, your version of the mime is striking! Shirl, that's a trip that your old drawing was the same mime in different makeup. I can see it!

Here's my version of the seagull, in Cray-Pas Specialists on smooth side Canson mi-Tientes, Moonstone color. I went looser with broken color on the background and had to blend a lot to get the hues.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-May-2009/70184-Seagull.jpg

I might redo it in a different way, since I'm not 100% happy with it and at first had wanted to get the shadow more prominent too. Also wound up with the tail going offstage anyway when I got its head placed well. I like how the broken color looks on the background though and the way I got the waves. In the photo there wasn't enough definition between the wave highlights and bird's highlights and what I did worked to create some. 7" x 9"

Scarefishcrow
05-03-2009, 11:52 PM
Robert, I like the Way you did the water.
I think the upper parts of the bird are pretty well done.

I think the legs and feet have some problems. The leg color is fairly intense and bright to be in the shadow plane as they are. And the feet look as if they are being viewed from a higher viewpoint the way depicted.

Head is well done!

Bill:wave: :thumbsup:

Linn, your version of the seagull is great. I love the painterly look you got with it and the beautiful proportions. It glows with the light, it's great.

Sandra, your version of the mime is striking! Shirl, that's a trip that your old drawing was the same mime in different makeup. I can see it!

Here's my version of the seagull, in Cray-Pas Specialists on smooth side Canson mi-Tientes, Moonstone color. I went looser with broken color on the background and had to blend a lot to get the hues.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/03-May-2009/70184-Seagull.jpg

I might redo it in a different way, since I'm not 100% happy with it and at first had wanted to get the shadow more prominent too. Also wound up with the tail going offstage anyway when I got its head placed well. I like how the broken color looks on the background though and the way I got the waves. In the photo there wasn't enough definition between the wave highlights and bird's highlights and what I did worked to create some. 7" x 9"

robertsloan2
05-04-2009, 03:27 AM
Thanks, Bill. Yes, I think you're right. I also placed the feet just a bit too close to each other, in the reference there was a gap between them about the width of one toe and a little shadow showing.

It's a good first go though. I may try it again later with Holbeins on homemade Colourfix or real Colourfix, though I might have to use some special effects in an underpainting if I want to keep the broken color ... or at least mix a wash that's close to the Moonstone to get that concrete effect. I might be able to get the concrete entirely with scumbling oil pastels... that would really be a challenge. Especially since Holbeins are narrower than the Specialists.

Of course (duh) I could actually open both boxes and just use the Specialists for that exact section, go in with a little more gray if I'm not putting it on that color.

I'll have to go through what I have in Colourfix and see if some color screams out at me "do the seabird properly on me."

bchlvr
05-04-2009, 06:59 AM
Sandra...great job!

Robert...like your loose style. (I'm going to try the Canson next time.)

Pat Isaac
05-04-2009, 07:24 AM
Love your mime, Sandra. Looks as if you had fun doing it.
Nice gull, Robert and that eye is piercing....

Pat

gakinme
05-04-2009, 09:44 AM
Thank you, Robert, Pat, Bill, Linn, for your comments. I had great fun doing this one!

oldrockchick
05-04-2009, 10:32 AM
Oooh you are all early starters.... Good morning *cough* afternoon lol. Actually I've been up since noon but watching films, just watched 'The Battle Of Britain' the 60s epic.

Sandra, great rendition of the mime, you are so good at people.

Robert - I like the water too. It is much more realistic in terms of movement.

I still havent' decided what to do, I'm feeling a bit laggy from yesterday to be honest. I doubt I would surprise anyone if I said I would do the ruins first :D

paul444
05-04-2009, 11:14 AM
Sandra, an excellent mime artist, you have captured a great facial expression.

paul444
05-04-2009, 11:24 AM
Robert, a great seagull. I like the way you have depicted the water it gives a good sense of movement. I also like the strong light on the gulls back.
An excellent first piece, looking forward to the next one.

paul444
05-04-2009, 11:26 AM
Looking forward to seeing your ruins Lin.

oldrockchick
05-04-2009, 11:31 AM
Looking forward to seeing your ruins Lin.

well Paul - today I FEEL like an old ruin :lol:

paul444
05-04-2009, 11:34 AM
Just had to check I didn't say '' in ruins '' :lol:

GhettoDaveyHavok
05-04-2009, 10:31 PM
Perusing the forum (and it seems missing a day is missing a lot) and you guys are starting out the thread well.

Linn, I totally dig the water of your OP painting of the gull.

Sandra, nice job with your interpretation of the mime dude! He looks kind of like he's going "Don't you love my eyes? *blink, blink*"

Robert, your gull looks like he's looking back going "Hhhhmmm" and about to do something bad. :evil:

robertsloan2
05-05-2009, 02:21 AM
Thanks! I'm happy with the gull and going to do him again in another way, probably on Colourfix with Holbeins. I might still use Specialists for the water since that worked so well.

LOL Crystal, yes, he does look like he's up to something! When I lived in San Francisco I used to go down to the Bay with French bread or sourdough and they'd all come flocking in to get some -- whether I'd been planning to feed birds or just brought along a sandwich to eat.

ddpatterson
05-05-2009, 02:02 PM
Here's my effort for this week: I somehow managed to change his expression somewhat and finished his hat. The bird: not pleased with it, pparticularly the water, but am learning OP's, so will not slash my wrists or throw my crayons around in a fit of temperament. (At least, not THIS time!) :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2009/183463-op2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2009/183463-op1.jpg

Pat Isaac
05-05-2009, 02:17 PM
You adre doing wonderfully.I love the expression on the mime....and I like the touches of pink in the water and on the bird.

Pat

oldrockchick
05-05-2009, 05:04 PM
Excellent mime artist DDP
One thing I find with some refs is that at first they look easier than they ar when coming to do them I usually find this with birds (and flowers) so you have done quite well really.

ddpatterson
05-05-2009, 05:35 PM
I know what you mean about flowers and birds -- I'd much rather do people and that was a real shocker for me, because I rarely photograph people, yet I hate doing landscape paintings, flower paintings, etc., etc.

Thanks, all, I appreciate your comments and, oh, just everything at WetCanvas.

bchlvr
05-05-2009, 08:51 PM
Great job on both DDP!

paul444
05-06-2009, 10:02 AM
DDP
The mime artist looks fantastic, I like how you have used a limited pallet on him.
The facial expression is great.

An excellent job on the gull too, I also like how you have added the pink throughout the painting tying it all together.

Well done.

GhettoDaveyHavok
05-06-2009, 10:04 AM
DDP, totally dig the color tone with the mime! I also like your interpretation of the gull!

robertsloan2
05-07-2009, 09:38 PM
Both excellent, DDP! I especially like what you did with the gull, putting the corner of the concrete into the composition really helped it.

paul444
05-08-2009, 07:26 AM
Here is my version of the mime artist which I finished off this morning.
Its 10 X 12 using sennelier op's.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-May-2009/82968-mime_artist.jpg

paul444
05-08-2009, 07:31 AM
Looking at the post I've just made, I would just like to add that the colours are a lot more vibrant in real life.

Pat Isaac
05-08-2009, 07:47 AM
Fantastic, Paul. You have a great expression on the mime. The colors may be more intense in RL but I do like what you have done with the background

Pat

bchlvr
05-09-2009, 12:14 AM
Great painting Paul! I thought your colors were nice and vibrant as posted...must be fabulous in real life.

paul444
05-09-2009, 01:38 PM
Thanks Pat and Linn for your comments.

Shirl Parker
05-09-2009, 01:49 PM
With that chin Paul, this looks a little like the Jay Leno of the mime world.:lol: :lol: :lol:

paul444
05-09-2009, 01:56 PM
:lol: :lol: I can see him there too now.

oldrockchick
05-09-2009, 03:45 PM
Well done Paul on your mime artist. I love the colouring and expression.

GhettoDaveyHavok
05-09-2009, 11:29 PM
I'm so close to burning my gull OP painting in the furnace along with the burned graphite drawing...

Paul, I love the bright colors to the mime! Excellent!

Shirl Parker
05-09-2009, 11:35 PM
Seems a little drastic!

robertsloan2
05-10-2009, 03:40 AM
Well done, Paul. You really captured the likeness and even the textures like the feather flower are so accurate. You caught the feel of his performance too.

Crystal, don't burn your gull paintings. Date them, stash them in the back of a folder, don't look at them for a year. Then when you get frustrated with something else, take them out and see how far you've come. Really, it's worth saving things even if you're not happy with them. There's often something good in a piece you didn't like that's more noticeable later on -- and it's always good to see progress.

paul444
05-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Thanks everyone for the nice comments.
Crystal, sorry to hear your gull is not going so well, is there no way you can save it ?

ddpatterson
05-12-2009, 12:17 AM
Crystal, no! Don't destroy them. My sister (a set designer) used to sweep into my world and "steal" my stuff before I tore it all up. I hide things from her (and myself) now and lo, and behold, a year or so later, it wasn't really so bad. If I still THINK it is, I cut it up and make collages or color refs out of it (most of these are from my watercolor romance in 9 volumes -- i.e., years of torturous on again/off again relationship with those blasted watercolors of mine! arggggggggg. So, I can relate to your feeling about things, but just stash them someplace.

Paul, I love your mime. great colors and gee, just everything came together in it. Makes me happy to look at it.

truck driver
05-12-2009, 12:42 AM
Crystal, If i burned all of my bad drawings, I wouldnt have any left.. Though I can go back and look at the ones I did a year ago and tell how far I've come. Not to say there isnt a long, long, long road ahead to get to where I'm even decent.. but I can tell at least maybe I found the road.

RG

truck driver
05-12-2009, 12:45 AM
Paul, I'm gonna have to do the Holy Ghost church bigger bro. It is currently a pretty decent pencil drawing. However I think my 9x6 sketch is gonna turn into a pen and ink, - watercolor thing.. Yeah.. Thats what I'm gonna do.. Pen and ink with a watercolor wash. Then i'll do it bigger for OP..


RG

oldrockchick
05-12-2009, 06:29 PM
Argh
I wanted to do the old ruins but I'm having problems. You see A4 is way too small to get any architecture in with OPs. I have tried all sorts of scaling and I just dont' have anything big enough to do it on except some old card and I need to stick it to a huge board and I just don't have room on my desk. It would be WAY to fiddly to try to do such a piece on A4 or even A3. So I guess I'll have to leave that one. :crying: Even if i did it it would be a right pain to photgraph it to show you as I would have to tape it to a fence lol

I'll have a go at one of the others instead I think.

paul444
05-14-2009, 06:19 AM
Sorry to hear your having troubles with the ruins, I'm going to have a go at this too, looks like I'm going to have to go a bit bigger than I originally planned to.
RG I'm sure we would all like to have a look at your pen and ink version too.

GhettoDaveyHavok
05-14-2009, 09:23 AM
Crystal, don't burn your gull paintings.
Too late. :(

Crystal, If i burned all of my bad drawings, I wouldnt have any left..

RG

:lol:I'mma have to slap you silly for saying that! You're being too harsh on yourself now. You're works aren't bad at all.

oldrockchick
05-14-2009, 10:48 AM
Sorry to hear your having troubles with the ruins, I'm going to have a go at this too, looks like I'm going to have to go a bit bigger than I originally planned to.
RG I'm sure we would all like to have a look at your pen and ink version too.

I went to Dobbies Garden Centre yesterday and there is a shop with the shop called 'Nature's World' or ewhatever. They were selling Royal Langnickel canvas boards from 1 depending on size. So I bought some. Having looked at them though I think I need to prome them with Gesso. I dont have any Colorfix until my next art order.

Might try it on one of those, about the same size as my Arbury Acrh.

i am hoping to finish that this weekend but I have review deadlines to meet and I've been all over the place all week and pushed for time.

paul444
05-15-2009, 06:05 AM
Lin,
I have not tried oil pastels on colorfix , Lately I usually use watercolor paper with a coat of gesso, seems to work o.k.
I'll have to have a go with the colorfix, I think I've still got some left under the stairs. [ my art store ] .

truck driver
05-15-2009, 06:14 AM
heck I just use watercolor paper without the gesso most of the time.

RG

oldrockchick
05-15-2009, 11:09 AM
heck I just use watercolor paper without the gesso most of the time.

RG
I've been using murano or W & N Tints pastel paper without primer, gesso or colorfix for the last 2 years. Only used WC paper straight a couple of times. It's reading what all these 'pros' use that make me think if I am to do things I want to last I should use primers etc...

I still use the pastel paper for the WC stuff though, but for my own original works I'm thinking maybe I should make the effort to prime. *shrugs* I dunno how much is necessary to do to keep things archival.

I'm just thinking that if these R Lang boards have no priming at all, as it doens't mention any, maybe there might be problems with the canvas rotting or other problems. Maybe Bill can shine a light on that?

robertsloan2
05-15-2009, 11:24 PM
Lin, that sounds like a great idea. I hope you can get some ground on it to give it more tooth. I know all the canvas boards I've seen are already pre-gessoed but have a very slick surface to the gesso except for the threads. I did one piece in Erengi on those and a little Sennelier, and really wished I'd put Colourfix primer on it.

I am going to have to try that sometime. Glad you found something big enough to let you do it!

truck driver
05-16-2009, 12:40 AM
Lol I guess what one needs to ask oneself.. is do i want this to be around in 500 years? I do realize if your selling your artwork, that it does matter, you want your product to be the best possible. So I guess the question is to gesso, or not to gesso, how much damage is done by the oil in the ops we use to the paper, and I would assume that part of this story is the weight and composition of the paper we use.

In my case thats currently 130 lb. Cotten rag paper, cold pressed. I can see cotten absorbing some oil, I can see wax grabbing the paper and also protecting it. I've heard some people talk about what they think might happen, but i've never heard anybody discuss this in a serious manner.
Its not like we are using zinc or something and letting our paintings eat themselves from the pigment level out right?

Pigment, Oil, Wax, Surface, Sizing, even the gesso you are putting on a support could actually harm it more than it helps. The issues of lightfastness, and archivelness are at a forefront today more than ever.
The evidence suggests that guys like JMW Turner could of cared less. Evidently they did, and even though a huge amount of there artwork exists perhaps thats what pushes us to go to the extremes we do.
Bill help me out i'm floundering here. :)

RG

Scarefishcrow
05-16-2009, 11:33 PM
I'm so far behind I see my own Rear End! Just wanted you to know I'm alive!

I'm begging you, RG! NO BLUE FLOWERS IN JUNE!:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

Bill

truck driver
05-17-2009, 08:48 AM
You see Bill, I would love to help you, but I'm afraid its completely out of my hands. The single greatest women on earth has total control of the destiny of blue flowers in june. You oughtta know for sure I wont argue with Gosh.

RG

oldrockchick
05-17-2009, 05:27 PM
After ahving got frustrated and abandoned the ruins I decided it was time I did one of these OP challenges for this month.

This is my start on the street performer.

I'm experimenting.
I'm using blue stock card, no idea how many layers I will get but I decided to map it our with an underdwaring using the Polychromos pencils and these applied really well.

I changed the composition and cropped it and decided to change the colour of his tie.

This is my start with the underdrawing before applying my first layer of OP.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-May-2009/179312-OP_May_Street_Performer_underpainting.jpg

Pat Isaac
05-17-2009, 05:36 PM
What a great start, Lin. I like his expression. Looking forward to the finish.
Pat

oldrockchick
05-17-2009, 07:56 PM
He's finished.

The OP layers were fine for the most part, although it was harder to use the shapers as they did lift off some of the pastel in places. While I liked the card for the Polys I wouldn't use it again I dont' think for OP. Have to experiment now and then though.

Well here he is.. my version of the street artist. I altered the composition and colour of the bow for my own take on him.


Sennelier and Neopastels over Polychromos underdrawing
10" x 8"
Blue stock card

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/17-May-2009/179312-Street_Mime_OP_WC_OP_May_09.jpg

Pat Isaac
05-18-2009, 07:19 AM
Wonderful, Lin. he is just great and I like the light blue background, works well. The red bow carries the red of the flower around the painting.

Pat

Mmadsen
05-18-2009, 01:39 PM
Hey gang,
Sorry so late to this one but I'm slowly getting up to speed and getting a few things done. We have a baby due today (nothing happening yet) so I may be a while again but hopefully not.

I really like the mime Paul and great pics this month.

Sounds like everyone is having the same issue with the ruins. I've barely gotten past the sketch phase but I did find that a scumbling of dark grey and light gray overlayed with pure white seemed close to the texture of the castle walls. I was tempted to pick a surface to highlight and use stronger values but I ended up sticking with the theme. It reminds me of most of the time I've spent in England with the moisture to stay in the grey realm plus it's moody which can be cool. I think the color is still too cold but I'm down the path a little so I think I'll stick with it.

8 x 10 ish on grey blue strathmore pastel paper w/ senns. Thanks for looking.

Markhttp://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/18-May-2009/131193-09_05_18_Ruins_v1.JPG

Pat Isaac
05-18-2009, 03:07 PM
Great start, Mark and I like your crop. It does seem a little cool, but that is your prerogative. Might be a nice take on the old ruins.
Happy new baby....let us know.

Pat

oldrockchick
05-18-2009, 03:16 PM
Mark - The colours are perfect. Remember it is of North East England, which is rarely anythign other than cool. It also gives just the right mysticalism (is that a word :confused: :p ) for the piece.

Glad you found a good way to crop it. I may come back to this later - we shall see.

Scarefishcrow
05-18-2009, 04:12 PM
Lin...Wonderful mime. Love the color work in the jacket.

Mark...You can't be farther behing the me. I just saw my own rear end turn the corner!!! You have a great start.

Hopefully I will get to check out all the other works in the thread as the week progresses!

Bill:clap:

bchlvr
05-19-2009, 05:38 AM
Lin...great job on the mime!

Can't wait to see those ruins completed Mark!

Lisa Cree
05-19-2009, 08:52 AM
Hi All! I'm new here... I was inspired by the mime, so thought I would give it a go - I think it is a great idea to have monthly oil pastel challenges, because it is not an easy medium to master at all. Well done to everyone so far! :thumbsup:

Here's mine (attached):- all comments and critics welcome

Pat Isaac
05-19-2009, 09:09 AM
Hi Lisa and welcome to the oil pastel forum....:wave: That is a great mime and I really like your interpretation. What kind of OPs did you use and what is the paper? We ask a lot of questions...
Looking forward to more of your OPs.

Pat

Lisa Cree
05-19-2009, 09:14 AM
Hi Pat, Thanks for your welcome :wave:

I used "pebeo" mark oil pastels, and the paper is 125g/m2 (60lbs) A3 from which I cropped about three cm from the bottom. I hope that answers your questions.

Pat Isaac
05-19-2009, 09:25 AM
It does, thanks. I have not heard of those OPs, and there are many out there that I keep learning about..

Pat

favoured grace
05-19-2009, 10:20 AM
Hi All! I'm new here... I was inspired by the mime, so thought I would give it a go - I think it is a great idea to have monthly oil pastel challenges, because it is not an easy medium to master at all. Well done to everyone so far! :thumbsup:

Here's mine (attached):- all comments and critics welcome

Well done,Lisa,there is so much character in the face.
Deserves praise
Regards
favoured grace

favoured grace
05-19-2009, 10:25 AM
Well done Lisa,
Very nicely captivated.:wave:

paul444
05-19-2009, 11:44 AM
Lin,
An excellent mime artist. I really like the red bow, it ties in nicely with the flower, and the blue background sets it off perfectly.

Hi Mark,
A great start to the church and I think the crop you have chosen is excellent.
Congratulations with the new baby.

Hi Lisa,

Welcome to the OP forum.
Your mime artist is beautiful. I love the facial expression you have given him.
I'm so glad he inspired you.

Hi Favored grace,
Welcome to the OP forum, please feel free to join in at any time.

GOSH
05-21-2009, 10:20 PM
Good effort from everyone so far :clap:

Of course, I wish I could post my mime but the camera has no battery and the scanner doesn't work :cool: . I'd like to show my study of the mime before I commit to painting the other more complete study.
I am having trouble with the creases of the jacket. In a black and white copy the value difference in hardly noticeable and I am not good at painting fabric (or drawing it). The bow on the mime is rather sad. Too bad his jacket didn't have a more striking color to contrast against the face. Perhaps I can change the color into something brighter?...lets see.

I'm eyeing the seagull tonite. Let's see what my twisted mind will come up with as my brain already sees a way to "tackle this subject in new and refreshing ways" :evil:

Scarefishcrow
05-22-2009, 05:11 AM
Lisa, a great debut!

Welcome to both Lisa and Grace. Hopefully the info below will help you find your way around!

Just to help you get oriented to this place, click on the link in my signature line called <GO FIRST> (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7172380&postcount=1) and it will take you to a thread that contains links and overviews of all the subforums in this Channel and what is in each one. There are also links to basic OP info and guidelines about posting, critiques, etc.

The following link contains an annotated list of links by topic discussed for recent threads that deal with issues commonly asked by people starting out in OP. Looking through those with give you some additional insight into materials, techniques and various issues dealing with OP:

<FAQs LINKS> (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7494753&postcount=1)

That should save you some time searching around.

This place is great because there are people of all experience levels and we try to have everyone help everyone else. So if there is any way we can help, we will do our best to assist you.

If you have any questions, just start a thread in the OP Talk (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=432)forum and ask away. In the OP Talk forum is a weekly thread called the Oil Gusher which is a thread started each Monday that is a"no topic" thread. People can just say hi, let others know what's going on in their life, catch up on what going on with others, or just meet folks.

Hope you share the fun of working in OP with us! Lots of
Look forward to seeing your work around the forum!!

Welcome to the OP Family!

Bill:thumbsup:

GOSH
05-22-2009, 10:25 PM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-May-2009/143278-S7300656.JPG

Got some batteries. This is a photo of the study done in the back of some used printer paper with Sennelliers.

GOSH
05-22-2009, 10:48 PM
And so far this is the next study that I thought of making into the final picture but there are some things I don't like about it like the crop similar to the photo, the size of the head in relation to the neck and torso, and the background needs to be a little more interesting. Of course the necktie and the folds of the fabric are two things I'm having some terrible time with.
Mimes and kitties, now ain't that adorable? :rolleyes:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/22-May-2009/143278-S7300657_.JPG

Pat Isaac
05-23-2009, 07:26 AM
You have really captured his expression well, Gosh. I think the neck on the second one is a little too thin and making it fatter would make the head seem fine. What a cute kitty.

Pat

GOSH
05-23-2009, 11:55 AM
You have really captured his expression well, Gosh. I think the neck on the second one is a little too thin and making it fatter would make the head seem fine. What a cute kitty.

Pat

Thank you, Pat. I'll get right to fixing that.
Gee, things are really slow around here. Where is everybody? :confused:

Pat Isaac
05-23-2009, 12:14 PM
May be because of the holiday weekend...

Pat

oldrockchick
05-23-2009, 01:09 PM
Thank you, Pat. I'll get right to fixing that.
Gee, things are really slow around here. Where is everybody? :confused:

Half of us are moving house lol, planning, packing, dying of exhaustion etc

paul444
05-23-2009, 01:31 PM
A great study there gosh, your preliminary sketch looks good too , (Pat has already mentioned the slim neck ). I like the crop you have used on this too.
Looking forward to the next update.
We are having a spell of good weather here in the u.k. this weekend so I for one have been out enjoying it , while it lasts..
Lin , good luck with the move, a hectic time at best.

Scarefishcrow
05-23-2009, 04:43 PM
Thank you, Pat. I'll get right to fixing that.
Gee, things are really slow around here. Where is everybody? :confused:


Memorial Day Weekend!!!!! Official beginning of the "tourist season" for summer until labor day.

Those that aren't moving (as in home) aren't moving (as in bones)! Between the Dentist, Physical Therapist, Orthopedist and my impending deadline to have everything cleared away for studio construction as well four master's to answer to (3 cats, 1 dog and a wife); oops, forogt Pat, make that 5) and worrying about what sort of hideous blue flower torture you are planning for me, there doesn't seem to be much time for anything else. Notice some of my recent posts have been at 4am in the morning before I made it to bed!


It waxes and wanes. Leave them alone and they will all come home wagging their tails behind them!!!


Ooops. Sounds like time for my medication again! BTW, GOSH, love your mime study. You are so talented and RG speaks highly of your great beauty, generosity of spirit and compassion for those that have trouble drawing blue flowers. Did I ever mention that before????:angel:

Speaking of which, Pat, notice we haven't seen EP around much since she got me into this mess!!!!


Bill:heart: :music: :music: :heart:

Scarefishcrow
05-23-2009, 04:43 PM
Thank you, Pat. I'll get right to fixing that.
Gee, things are really slow around here. Where is everybody? :confused:


Memorial Day Weekend!!!!! Official beginning of the "tourist season" for summer until labor day.

Those that aren't moving (as in home) aren't moving (as in bones)! Between the Dentist, Physical Therapist, Orthopedist and my impending deadline to have everything cleared away for studio construction as well four master's to answer to (3 cats, 1 dog and a wife); oops, forogt Pat, make that 5) and worrying about what sort of hideous blue flower torture you are planning for me, there doesn't seem to be much time for anything else. Notice some of my recent posts have been at 4am in the morning before I made it to bed!


It waxes and wanes. Leave them alone and they will all come home wagging their tails behind them!!!


Ooops. Sounds like time for my medication again! BTW, GOSH, love your mime study. You are so talented and RG speaks highly of your great beauty, generosity of spirit and compassion for those that have trouble drawing blue flowers. Did I ever mention that before????:angel:

Speaking of which, Pat, notice we haven't seen EP around much since she got me into this mess!!!!


Bill:heart: :music: :music: :heart:

Scarefishcrow
05-23-2009, 04:43 PM
Ignore. Accidental double post.

Pat Isaac
05-23-2009, 05:44 PM
Yes, don't forget this master.....:lol: :lol: :lol:
Please take care....you are needed...
Oh, yes, EP??? Hmmmmm....

Pat

oldrockchick
05-23-2009, 08:18 PM
Eye paint is often seen hanging around the WDE forums :P

It is 1.15 am and I have JUST (after having a trip to new house for some missed measurements) finally finished all my floor plans!!

I met some of the neighbours today. One has 3 cats and 3 kittens and happily brought one for me to hold and cuddle, only 3/4 weeks old awwwww.

truck driver
05-24-2009, 05:18 AM
Memorial Day Weekend!!!!! Official beginning of the "tourist season" for summer until labor day.

Those that aren't moving (as in home) aren't moving (as in bones)! Between the Dentist, Physical Therapist, Orthopedist and my impending deadline to have everything cleared away for studio construction as well four master's to answer to (3 cats, 1 dog and a wife); oops, forogt Pat, make that 5) and worrying about what sort of hideous blue flower torture you are planning for me, there doesn't seem to be much time for anything else. Notice some of my recent posts have been at 4am in the morning before I made it to bed!


It waxes and wanes. Leave them alone and they will all come home wagging their tails behind them!!!


Ooops. Sounds like time for my medication again! BTW, GOSH, love your mime study. You are so talented and RG speaks highly of your great beauty, generosity of spirit and compassion for those that have trouble drawing blue flowers. Did I ever mention that before????:angel:

Speaking of which, Pat, notice we haven't seen EP around much since she got me into this mess!!!!


Bill:heart: :music: :music: :heart:

Oh lord, man I shoulda warned you. That wont fly, your digging yourself a large hole. I think I heard her mutter something about lots of blue flowers and large green trees with a whole lotta darks and some really bright light shining through on them. This could get ugly. I'll do what I can to help man but oh lord, what have you done...

RG

truck driver
05-24-2009, 05:21 AM
btw its 2:00am and I just got home from work, I leave monday down to crockett,ca..

RG

paul444
05-24-2009, 06:46 AM
Looking forward to the blue flower... it seems inevitable now Bill.

Shirl Parker
05-24-2009, 09:49 AM
... as well four master's to answer to (3 cats, 1 dog and a wife); oops, forogt Pat, make that 5)...

Am I the only one to question Bill's arithmetic skills here?

Scarefishcrow
05-24-2009, 12:21 PM
Am I the only one to question Bill's arithmetic skills here?

Probably not after your keen eye spotted it. I could claim a technicality that one of the cats lacks the intelligence to be connted, but I won't!

Shirl, it's awfull hard to slip anything past your eage eyell

Bill:lol:

Pat Isaac
05-24-2009, 01:59 PM
I don't do math.....:rolleyes:

Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-24-2009, 05:22 PM
I don't do math.....:rolleyes:

Pat

Apparently neither do I!:lol:

aolaranora
05-24-2009, 07:35 PM
Hopefully I will get to check out all the other works in the thread as the week progresses!

Bill:clap:

Pick me, pick me!.. :clap: :clap: :clap: :lol: :lol:

(as for checking of other works!)

Don't you hear many little voices, Bill ?...:lol:

truck driver
05-24-2009, 09:45 PM
Am I the only one to question Bill's arithmetic skills here? He's taken enough higher level math that he can make any number = any other number...


RG

Scarefishcrow
05-24-2009, 11:39 PM
DD, Trying to catch up and wanted to compliment your efforts an both the Gull and Mime. Great textures and interpretation!

Bill:clap:

Here's my effort for this week: I somehow managed to change his expression somewhat and finished his hat. The bird: not pleased with it, pparticularly the water, but am learning OP's, so will not slash my wrists or throw my crayons around in a fit of temperament. (At least, not THIS time!) :)

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2009/183463-op2.jpg
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/05-May-2009/183463-op1.jpg

Scarefishcrow
05-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Paul,

Great job on the Mime! I like the colors and textures!

Bill:clap:

Here is my version of the mime artist which I finished off this morning.
Its 10 X 12 using sennelier op's.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-May-2009/82968-mime_artist.jpg

Mmadsen
05-25-2009, 10:13 AM
Ok I finally finished. 8 x 10 is with Senns.

Baby's a week late so I'm convinced baby Maggie wanted me to finish the ruins before the chaos. Why we waited 'til we were married 16 yrs is beyond me. Almost 43 with a new born. Who can't do math? They'll induce Wendy tomorrow.

Truck driver get a lot of sleep. Bill, math's totally in the eye of the beholder. Everyone who did the mime is courageous and darn talented. I thought those were all very very good. Personally - I find a mime about as creepy as a mormon missionary. (Pretty creepy).

Have a wonderful holiday for those "US-ers". For the UK'ers - what is a bank holiday?

Mark

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-May-2009/131193-09_05_wc_op_challenge_ruins_cropped.JPG

Pat Isaac
05-25-2009, 10:18 AM
Very nice Mark. I like the cool misty feel of this. Hope all is well with Mom and baby tomorrow.

Pat

oldrockchick
05-25-2009, 01:38 PM
MArk well done on the ruins. You succeeded where I failed to even started.

Paul not sure if I commented on your mime already, but I love the colours in it.

I've been all over the plave this weekend. So not sure if I'll even fit in another piece thids month.

aolaranora
05-25-2009, 03:33 PM
Very interesting painting, Mark! Good job!

Scarefishcrow
05-26-2009, 01:02 PM
Hey, Mark, pretty good job on the ruins. Maybe a bit more value contrast in foreground and stonework would help, but then again I started working on the ruins and mine look as if they had been sacked again!!! I ruined the ruins? Can you do that?

Good luck with the delivery and hope all goes well! So what is you are going to be in a nursing home when graduates from college! Well, maybe that is exaggerating a bit!:lol:

Bill

Ok I finally finished. 8 x 10 is with Senns.

Baby's a week late so I'm convinced baby Maggie wanted me to finish the ruins before the chaos. Why we waited 'til we were married 16 yrs is beyond me. Almost 43 with a new born. Who can't do math? They'll induce Wendy tomorrow.

Truck driver get a lot of sleep. Bill, math's totally in the eye of the beholder. Everyone who did the mime is courageous and darn talented. I thought those were all very very good. Personally - I find a mime about as creepy as a mormon missionary. (Pretty creepy).

Have a wonderful holiday for those "US-ers". For the UK'ers - what is a bank holiday?

Mark

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-May-2009/131193-09_05_wc_op_challenge_ruins_cropped.JPG

oldrockchick
05-26-2009, 01:11 PM
A 'bank holiday' is a statutory day off for commerce and industry, like your labour day I guess? Traditionally it was only for banks when they would close on a Monday a few times a year. Now it is a legal 'day off'. We have them for various reasons.

Easter Monday
May day (First Monday in May)
Whit Week bank holiday (Last Monday in May) and a week for schools and factories.
August Bank Holiday, last Monday in August
Christmas, Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day are Bank holidays but not necessarily a Monday.

Basically on these days everything shuts, although the shops open 'Sunday hours sometimes.

Whit week, Summer fortnight and September break are specified standard holiday times when facotires close. Although these modern times holidays are more often varied.

During Whit week only the Monday is a bank holiday for most, unless the factory is closing for a week. Whit week is usually same as school half term.

halthepainter
05-26-2009, 02:25 PM
Lovely job Mark. Nice cropping.

Mmadsen
05-26-2009, 02:37 PM
ORC, that's what I needed. I'm sure if I looked it up on the net I could have saved you the trouble for describing Bank Holidays. Thanks a ton,

I appreciate all the nice comments. Bill I may play with a it a bit more, since it's still May.

Mark

alhajri
05-26-2009, 07:17 PM
This is my first participation in the Monthly challenge. While it's late (4 days before the month ends), I'e decided to give it a try.

I'm not an expert in oil pastels. But I find it a fun medium.

I did the bird challenge. I've used Sennelier Oil Pastels on a 9.5" x 12.5" Sennelier Oil Pastel pads. I've also used for the first time Res-N-Gel to help with the blending. Please let me know if it's good or could use improvement.

Kal

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/26-May-2009/180942-KalOilPastelBird.jpg

Mmadsen
05-26-2009, 11:28 PM
Kal,
It's very good. I really like the strong value range with the dark shadows. The subtle color on the body is interesting. The only thing I'd do a little different is to soften the hard edge on the top of the body. Great job and I bet it was fun.

What is the surface on the Senn pad like? Is it similiar to watercolor paper or does it have a pretty toothy surface like sanded papers?

I'm also interested in the resin-gel. Does it negate the need to use your fingers to blend? Does it speed up the blending process?

Great job,

Mark

truck driver
05-27-2009, 12:26 AM
Kal,
It's very good. I really like the strong value range with the dark shadows. The subtle color on the body is interesting. The only thing I'd do a little different is to soften the hard edge on the top of the body. Great job and I bet it was fun.

What is the surface on the Senn pad like? Is it similiar to watercolor paper or does it have a pretty toothy surface like sanded papers?

I'm also interested in the resin-gel. Does it negate the need to use your fingers to blend? Does it speed up the blending process?

Great job,

Mark

Makes it easier to blend expeccially the harder ops ( expressionists, specialists) are the ones that i have experience with. It also extends the op somewhat so you dont have to use near as much of the more expensive ops, holbiens, and sennelier. In my case.

RG

Pat Isaac
05-27-2009, 06:52 AM
Really nice job with the gull and welcome to the OP forum, Kal...:wave:
Nice contrast on the wall and the water. I would suggest getting rid of the drawing line around the bird, just bring the color out over it.

Pat

alhajri
05-27-2009, 10:58 AM
Thanks Mark, RG and Pat.

I wanted to ask though. It was hard to get those graphite line I had before painted over. It's because the oil pastels are round at first then tend to be flat. If it had a pointed end, it would be easier to do. Just like colored pencil.

I don't want to use a blade to make its sharp since it's already a small 3" stick. I thought of using a brush to move it over with Res-N-Gel. Does that sound like a good thing to do? Or do you guys have another way to do it.

I think I need to get some oil pastel pencils. I'll do that today and fix it :)
I'll post before the month ends.

Kal

Pat Isaac
05-27-2009, 04:26 PM
I don't do my initial drawing i pencil as I have found it tends to sometimes mix with the OPs and get dirty. I use the oil pencils to do the drawing and they mix quite well with the OPs.
Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-27-2009, 11:28 PM
Kal, I agree with the previous comments and welcome to the Oil Pastel Channel. The following information will help you find your way around and has links to some important threads that discuss some of the questions you pose. Hope it helps.


Just to help you get oriented to this place, click on the link in my signature line called <GO FIRST> (http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7172380&postcount=1) and it will take you to a thread that contains links and overviews of all the subforums in this Channel and what is in each one. There are also links to basic OP info and guidelines about posting, critiques, etc.

The following link contains an annotated list of links by topic discussed for recent threads that deal with issues commonly asked by people starting out in OP. Looking through those with give you some additional insight into materials, techniques and various issues dealing with OP:

<FAQs LINKS> (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7494753&postcount=1)

That should save you some time searching around.

This place is great because there are people of all experience levels and we try to have everyone help everyone else. So if there is any way we can help, we will do our best to assist you.

If you have any questions, just start a thread in the OP Talk (http://wetcanvas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=432)forum and ask away. In the OP Talk forum is a weekly thread called the Oil Gusher which is a thread started each Monday that is a"no topic" thread. People can just say hi, let others know what's going on in their life, catch up on what going on with others, or just meet folks.

Hope you share the fun of working in OP with us! Lots of
Look forward to seeing your work around the forum!!

Welcome to the OP Family!

Bill:thumbsup:

alhajri
05-28-2009, 09:54 AM
Thanks Bill :) But I'm not new. Did you forget about this post so fast?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559476

:lol:

Kal

Shirl Parker
05-28-2009, 10:51 AM
Better to be doubly welcome, than ignored. :cat:

Scarefishcrow
05-28-2009, 11:57 AM
Thanks Bill :) But I'm not new. Did you forget about this post so fast?
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559476

:lol:

Kal

Truth is, yes! It is a good problem to have, but seems so many new folks have been showing up I sometimes get confused (Ok, Shirl, often get confused).

Just want to make sure everyone knows they are welcome here and has the info they need to find what's available. No offense meant! What really throws me is when people change Avatars or use the same one as someone else; or worse yet (hrumph!) change their user name and their post count goes to 0!

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-May-2009/108067-a_gehirne06.gif

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-May-2009/108067-message38.gif

Bill:o :wave:

Smudgit
05-28-2009, 02:33 PM
Well here is my first challenge result. I't's not called a challenge for nothing!
C&C welcome.
Caran d'Ache Neopastels on Winsor & Newton medium surface cartridge paper. 11.75" x 8.25".http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-May-2009/159812-Seagull.jpg

halthepainter
05-28-2009, 03:00 PM
Looking good smudgit.

I'll try to finish my painting tomorrow.

Pat Isaac
05-28-2009, 03:25 PM
Nicely done, Bill. I really like the stones and wall. Good color on the bird.

Pat

Smudgit
05-28-2009, 03:35 PM
Thanks Hal. looking forward to seeing yours soon.

I really struggled Pat to get any realistic colours as I have only a tin of 24 pastels. I know it is good mixing practice, but it's very frustrating too!
I think I shall persevere a while longer before choosing extra colours.
Also the seagull gained weight waiting for me to finish it!

Pat Isaac
05-28-2009, 03:41 PM
:lol: :lol: you should see the seagull I have that has gained weight in the last year waiting for me to finish(a mega gull)....okay everyone, I said it first...:p

Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-28-2009, 05:33 PM
For a newcomer you have done very well! The stonework is great, Bill.
I may be a little late but I'm gonna do one of these yet!

Bill:clap:

Well here is my first challenge result. I't's not called a challenge for nothing!
C&C welcome.
Caran d'Ache Neopastels on Winsor & Newton medium surface cartridge paper. 11.75" x 8.25".http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/28-May-2009/159812-Seagull.jpg

Scarefishcrow
05-28-2009, 05:37 PM
:lol: :lol: you should see the seagull I have that has gained weight in the last year waiting for me to finish(a mega gull)....okay everyone, I said it first...:p

Pat

I confess that I was feeding it extra garbage on the sly!:o But Pat was wise as an "old OWL" and caught me! Oh "buoy", did I get a whuppin' with that big stick of her's.

She's an angel, but don't push the envelope too much! She's one sleeping dog you don't want to poke too many times!

I love her, though. She's just like my Mom! Always yelling at me to get my room clean!:lol: :lol:

Looking forward to yours, Hal!

Bill:thumbsup:

Pat Isaac
05-28-2009, 05:52 PM
:lol: :lol: Good thinking, Bill. This gull is on a diet now and may be ready before you know it.

Pat

truck driver
05-29-2009, 05:19 AM
Bill just dont be as late as I am on last months, ok :)

RG

halthepainter
05-29-2009, 01:22 PM
Well here it is just under the deadline. But first I have to make my usual list of excuses: This is a case where the photo looks better than the painting; and the small size of the image hides a number of sins.
Excuse #1: This was a rush job. I just wanted to participate and I started just two night ago and spent about 4 to 5 hours on the painting.
Excuse #2: I usually just use a reference photo as an inspiration and don't really attempt to follow it too closely unless it's of a well known landmark. The scene just demanded the presence of monks.
Excuse #3: I think the painting would have been better in a vertical format but I wasn't in the mood for the vertical format. Thus, I wound up with too much dead space on the right side of the painting. I originally placed a stone pedestal there but it drew the eye away from my center of interest so I wiped that out and put in the hedges.
Excuse #4: I think I have some prespective issues but I haven't really taken the time to analyze it too closely as yet.

Other Stuff: This was done on watercolor paper mounted on masonite (11 by 14 inches). The mounting technique, learned in a workshop, removes about all the sizing in the paper and makes for a soft surface. I found this surface quite nice for OPs and I was able to smear (blend) the pastels with my fingers quite easily, much better than on my pumiced canvas.

More other stuff: My Energi spread nicely on this surface and the senneliers were incredible with their ease of blending. My issue with the Senneliers was that once spread over the paper, it was difficult to put a gray pas or erengi pastel on top of it.

I loved the senneliers and will purchase a small set (24) so I can use it as a primarly blending OP.

I think that is about it: Oh Yeah, I need to show the painting. :wink2:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-May-2009/140488-wc_monks_and_ruins.jpg

Helpful suggestions (other than throw my OPs away) much appreciated.

Pat Isaac
05-29-2009, 01:56 PM
No excuses needed as I think this is an admirable job of a difficult subject. I really like the addition of the monks and I don't see a problem with the perspective. It might be nice to add some complements to the greens and some ochres, to tone down the green. It is hard to put a firmer OP over Senneliers unless they have set up for awhile. I can put my Holbeins over them, but not much else.

Pat

halthepainter
05-29-2009, 02:18 PM
It might be nice to add some complements to the greens and some ochres, to tone down the green. It is hard to put a firmer OP over Senneliers unless they have set up for awhile. I can put my Holbeins over them, but not much else.

Pat

Agreed, the greens are a bit overwhelming. They need to be greyed down some. They're mostly my senneliers and I'll let them set up a bit before working on them agian. Thanks Pat.

oldrockchick
05-29-2009, 05:07 PM
Well done Hal

#1 for bravely tackling this piece, I gave up trying to get it to fit anything I had for size.
#2 for adding the monks. I LOVE it!
#3 Senns are a pain once they are on, that is it! I only use them for topo coats now.
#4 Agree about the greens

halthepainter
05-29-2009, 05:12 PM
Thank you oldrockchick.

I've been looking at your work since I became interested in oil pastels. I like your work very much.

Spice3514
05-30-2009, 08:15 AM
Dear everyone,

I have just sneaked in under the wire, the last day of May.
Having done all 3 last month, I thought I should do at least one this month otherwise you might not think me committed :wink2:
Thanks for the refs Paul - at first I thought I'd do the seagull, but changed my mind. I've spent 4 hrs on this so far and would now like to put more effort into the flower/feathers, and try to minimise the background.
Anyway here it is, approx. 7 x 10 inches on Canson Mi-Teintes white paper, in Faber Castell OPs with neopastels and sennelliers on top.

The face turned out kind of female, dont you think? I had to give up on the ear so now its covered in hair.
(Apologies to Lin for the 'white dot-itis').

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/30-May-2009/183415-Clown-OP-May-09.jpg

Will try harder in June!

Pat Isaac
05-30-2009, 08:52 AM
Yea, Brenda...this looks great and I love the different expressions that everyone managed to give the mime.

Pat

Spice3514
05-30-2009, 09:20 AM
Thanks Pat,
I'm not sure what happened there, I tried to edit my message but only succeeded in replacing the photo with the latest version in which I DID do more work on the feathers and minimise/darken the background.
Hey ho.

oldrockchick
05-30-2009, 09:42 AM
Thanks Hal for liking my work :) It means a lot to me.

Well Brenda, it doesn't seem like a terminal case of whitedotitis I think it's curable :lol: I struggle with ears too. Isn't hair wonderful ;) ? it's coming on well, keep going :)

sparkling
05-31-2009, 04:33 AM
Wow, I've just browsed this thread and I'm absolutely blown away by everyone's entry. Especially all those different renderings of the street performer have impressed me very much. Each of them is so unique, different, but yet absolutely recognizable as the man in the photo! And while reading your own comments regarding your artwork I think that you're all much too severe with yourselves. Like Brenda for instance. Yes, your guy has something feminine going on, but that's just because the original model also has this air of femininity about him. You just happened to catch exactly this quality of him and reinforced it in your painting - but that's exactly what art is all about, else we could just take photos ;). Love it :)!

Spice3514
05-31-2009, 05:10 AM
Why thank you Sylvia, I hadnt thought of it like that - though I cant claim it was intentional :)

GOSH
05-31-2009, 06:03 AM
Excuses, excuses :rolleyes: . I think it's lovely what you did. I think you captured well the color of the sky and the addition of the monks helped with the mood of the place. I personally think that if you were to keep the green this bright, that some of that light would also be reflected on the walls. Perhaps the arcs creating a shadow on the green would help increase the feeling of depth.

(...)
I think that is about it: Oh Yeah, I need to show the painting. :wink2:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/29-May-2009/140488-wc_monks_and_ruins.jpg

Helpful suggestions (other than throw my OPs away) much appreciated.[/quote]

GOSH
05-31-2009, 06:13 AM
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/25-May-2009/131193-09_05_wc_op_challenge_ruins_cropped.JPG[/quote]

I like your take on the ruins also: they convey a darker mood with the muted tones and the deeper shadows, like it's been cold and dreary all day. I would have loved to see the ground with some more life, perhaps following the line of the arcs. :thumbsup:

halthepainter
05-31-2009, 08:41 AM
[quote=GOSH] I personally think that if you were to keep the green this bright, that some of that light would also be reflected on the walls. Perhaps the arcs creating a shadow on the green would help increase the feeling of depth.

Gosh, by gosh, I think you're right, the walls should show some greenish reflections. I plan on making some additional effort in creating depth. Since I have three WIPs, an oil and two acrylics, it will be awhile before I put my final touches on this.

I have my light source coming from the left, so I'm not sure about any shadows created by the arches. However the same scene backlit would make an interesting painting. Sorry I didn't think of that.

Also I have the shadow on the left of my painting going up to the base of the tower. I should have made it go part way up the wall. I can seen why you thought it was cast by the left tower. Another thing to do another day.

Thank you Gosh. I like your handle.

Shirl Parker
05-31-2009, 10:00 AM
This is just an underpainting in speedball calligraphy ink. Hopefully I will get some OP on it today.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/31-May-2009/113427-CCF31052009_00001.jpg

Pat Isaac
05-31-2009, 10:50 AM
Great start, Shirl.
Hey Silvia....nice to see you again.

Pat

Scarefishcrow
05-31-2009, 12:52 PM
Hal,

Agree with everything Lin said. Love the monks.

GOSH,

Also good job. Like the texture on the ruins. IMHO the foreground seems a bit smooth and could use some additional texture.

Brenda,

Wonderful job on the mime!

Shirl,
Great start. Better than all the "starts I've made but haven't gotten anywhere with on this month's challenge. I may be sticking something in here late!!

And Paul, these were fabulous references and everyone did a great job (except me, still working on it)! Thanks for being such a gracious challenge host.

Bill:clap: :clap:

oldrockchick
05-31-2009, 01:01 PM
I like your take on the ruins also: they convey a darker mood with the muted tones and the deeper shadows, like it's been cold and dreary all day. I would have loved to see the ground with some more life, perhaps following the line of the arcs. :thumbsup:

EXACTLY RIGHT!! this is England - it is always like that especially in the North :lol: Hence the perfect mood for the ruins. I have been around many similar ruins and even on a nice day they always seem muted and dreary.

Hello Sylvia and welcome to our OP family. I'm glad you found us and like our work. Have you tried OPs yourself?

oldrockchick
05-31-2009, 01:04 PM
Nice start Shirl, looking forward to the finished piece.

Paul - thanks for hosting, sorry I only got to do the one this month, but I did enjoy doing it.

sparkling
06-01-2009, 04:08 AM
Pat, I'm also glad to be back again. It's unbelievable how fast time passes by :). Last year I have been spending more time with my (oil) paints and with my more three dimensional art stuff, but at the moment I feel the urge to take out my old OPs again and try my hand at some OP sketches again ^-^.

Hi Oldrockchick :)! Yes, I have painted with OPs before, if you search through the older challenges you might even come across the one or the other of my works. Last year I haven't been very active in this forum, but I'll try to do better this year. I still have these cardboards here laying around that were prepared with pastelground and that are just waiting to be used :D

paul444
06-01-2009, 03:27 PM
Hi everyone, sorry I have not been around for the last few days but work has been really busy.

Mark...congratulations, an excellent take on the ruins. It has a great atmosphere.

Hi Kal....thanks for taking up the challenge. I think you did an excellent job on the gull.

Bill... A great first challenge, the coloring on the gull is well done and the stonework at the bottom is superb.

Hal... A lovely op of the ruins. I like the addition of the monks. It helps to give the ruins a sense of scale.

Brenda... A fantastic version of the mime with great colours. Its a wonderful thing that people can look at the same image and see and reproduce so many lovely variations.

Shirl... You have made an excellent start on this, looking forward to seeing it finished.

A big thank you to everyone who has contributed this month and made this a great challenge.
Excellent work everyone.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Scarefishcrow
06-02-2009, 01:11 AM
Thanks for great RI's, Paul!

I'm a little slow but determined to do that mime!

Bill:wave:

GOSH
06-06-2009, 03:34 AM
It's late but here it is:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/06-Jun-2009/35760-143278-seagull.jpg.jpeg

Sorry if it's sideways.
Done with Senneliers on a 8"1/2x5"1/2 minus border makes the work a size 4"x7", on Strathmore WC 140lb with Golden acrylic ground for pastels.
No pencil except in the very end very little in places.
I had difficulty with the following: better definition of the values and the shape of the beak of the figure. Didn't take me as long to make as I thought it would, pbly a couple of hours.

GOSH
06-06-2009, 03:42 AM
Sorry for the blurred pic.

GOSH
06-06-2009, 03:56 AM
Gosh, by gosh, I think you're right, the walls should show some greenish reflections. I plan on making some additional effort in creating depth. Since I have three WIPs, an oil and two acrylics, it will be awhile before I put my final touches on this.

I have my light source coming from the left, so I'm not sure about any shadows created by the arches. However the same scene backlit would make an interesting painting. Sorry I didn't think of that.

Also I have the shadow on the left of my painting going up to the base of the tower. I should have made it go part way up the wall. I can seen why you thought it was cast by the left tower. Another thing to do another day.

Thank you Gosh. I like your handle.

Your monks have their shadow falling on the right, so the shadow of the building, in principle, should follow the same direction :wave:

Pat Isaac
06-06-2009, 08:51 AM
Nice little painting, Gosh,. I turned him around, hope you don't mind.
Nice color.

Pat

alhajri
06-06-2009, 08:52 AM
Nie GOSH, and I like the water. Time to do the next challenge :)

Kal

GOSH
06-06-2009, 04:15 PM
Nice little painting, Gosh,. I turned him around, hope you don't mind.
Nice color.

Pat

Thanks. Nice you turn things around. Now I'm about to start the June challenge painting.

paul444
06-08-2009, 10:49 AM
Great painting GOSH, I like the colours you have used and the water is excellent.

GOSH
06-08-2009, 06:43 PM
Great painting GOSH, I like the colours you have used and the water is excellent.

Thank you, paul444. I changed the water, however, because I thought it would help the seagul be better defined. I don't know if it's not quite as good as before but I like the end result with the bird. I should have taped the border to keep it neat and clean too.

And yes, I must get on with June :)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/images/08-Jun-2009/143278-S7300687_.JPG